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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:42:10 PM   
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I'm trying to imagine what it may have been used for before the atom was first split.


Apparently, it was used for dinner plates (Fiestaware(tm))!!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:43:05 PM   
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I'm trying to imagine what it may have been used for before the atom was first split.


Apparently, it was used for dinner plates (Fiestaware(tm))!!


How about painting watch faces?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:43:29 PM   
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wow those planes are so old i thought that they predated the use of metal in aircraft




They are so old they use the first ever turbofan engines. The basic design of the engine dates from 1951. There's some stuff in them that was pretty advanced for the time.

Sheesh - the design is as old as me (maybe older...)

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:43:43 PM   
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Lots of doo-hickies and thing-a-ma-bobbs as far as I can tell. 

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:44:03 PM   
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I'm trying to imagine what it may have been used for before the atom was first split.


Apparently, it was used for dinner plates (Fiestaware(tm))!!


How about painting watch faces?

That was radium...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:45:22 PM   
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wow those planes are so old i thought that they predated the use of metal in aircraft




They are so old they use the first ever turbofan engines. The basic design of the engine dates from 1951. There's some stuff in them that was pretty advanced for the time.

Sheesh - the design is as old as me (maybe older...)


I'll bet the engine was more advanced than you though...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:45:49 PM   
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I'm trying to imagine what it may have been used for before the atom was first split.


Apparently, it was used for dinner plates (Fiestaware(tm))!!

Yes. want to freak someone out? Wait until grandma serves up dinner and then pull out the Geiger counter. You'll never see anyone run so fast from the dinner table.

Guess = Buffalo/ROchester.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:47:02 PM   
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I'm trying to imagine what it may have been used for before the atom was first split.


Apparently, it was used for dinner plates (Fiestaware(tm))!!

Being radioactive and called "Fiestaware" that's just too ironic.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 8:54:38 PM   
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I'm trying to imagine what it may have been used for before the atom was first split.


Apparently, it was used for dinner plates (Fiestaware(tm))!!

Yes. want to freak someone out? Wait until grandma serves up dinner and then pull out the Geiger counter. You'll never see anyone run so fast from the dinner table.

Guess = Buffalo/ROchester.

Extremely close!!

Reading up more on this, it turns out one city produced uranium tetrafluoride (aka "green salt") - the other city actually produced the metal from the "green salt".

Later, i guess they turned the metal into hexafluroide for gas diffusion, or kept it in pure form for other types of purification.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:35:05 PM   
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Hmmm....what's extremely close to Buffalo and Rochester? 

Could it be Syracuse?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:35:44 PM   
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i found one article that said most of the WORLD'S Uranium metal was produced in one factory (wooden)... however, several other factories in the same city also produced Uranium metal.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:36:28 PM   
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Hmmm....what's extremely close to Buffalo and Rochester? 

Could it be Syracuse?


Well, Syracuse is close, but it isn't the city.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:39:43 PM   
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Sheesh... got logged out again - this time using Firefox 3...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:46:47 PM   
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Lockport and Niagara Falls?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:49:58 PM   
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Hello and Goodnight.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:51:18 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:51:26 PM   
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Lockport and Niagara Falls?



Close enough - Niagara Falls was the metal producer, and nearby Tonawanda (just south) was the producer of "green salts".

The factory mentioned as being the World's Largest supplier of Uranium metal (in the 1940's) was ElectroMet (Union Carbide’s Electro Metallurgical Company) - the workers at which may have all received fatal doses of radiation (according to one source).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 9:57:19 PM   
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Lockport and Niagara Falls?



Close enough - Niagara Falls was the metal producer, and nearby Tonawanda (just south) was the producer of "green salts".

The factory mentioned as being the World's Largest supplier of Uranium metal (in the 1940's) was ElectroMet (Union Carbide’s Electro Metallurgical Company) - the workers at which may have all received fatal doses of radiation (according to one source).


i found this out because of potholes!!

Some company was hired to fix the potholes in the streets of Niagara Falls (they have some spiffy machine) and discovered (after they signed the contract) that many of the streets of the city were paved with radioactive waste... they are kinda upset... i read some details in the article and started digging from there.

When i was a kid, my father and i went out to a bowling alley with a Geiger counter that was rumored to have its parking lot paved with some of this stuff - it was pretty "hot"!

My first grade school was also torn down because a large amount radioactive waste was (supposedly) buried under the playground.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:01:43 PM   
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Question for Threadsters: what is the coldest place you've lived for 1 year or more??



Ft. Drum NY. -30 in a canvas tent is no fun. Specially when Gen Meade comes up with the great idea of "Attack the cold". Newsflash, the cold doesn't care!


Ogdensburg, New York is north of Ft. Drum by about 25 miles

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:04:54 PM   
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THREADQUIZ:

In the 1940's, where was the free world's leading producer of uranium metal?

NOTE: i am NOT talking U-235, but rather Uranium before it has been separated into isotopes.


Grants Uranium District in northwestern New Mexico

No - you are still thinking about mining/ore (or your reference is)...

Once the metal was purified from the ore (and this place where happened is where i am looking for), it was combined with fluorine to make Uranium Hexafluoride... this was sent down to Oak Ridge for gas diffusion separation.


Niagra Falls.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:05:20 PM   
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Lockport and Niagara Falls?



Close enough - Niagara Falls was the metal producer, and nearby Tonawanda (just south) was the producer of "green salts".

The factory mentioned as being the World's Largest supplier of Uranium metal (in the 1940's) was ElectroMet (Union Carbide’s Electro Metallurgical Company) - the workers at which may have all received fatal doses of radiation (according to one source).


i found this out because of potholes!!

Some company was hired to fix the potholes in the streets of Niagara Falls (they have some spiffy machine) and discovered (after they signed the contract) that many of the streets of the city were paved with radioactive waste... they are kinda upset... i read some details in the article and started digging from there.

When i was a kid, my father and i went out to a bowling alley with a Geiger counter that was rumored to have its parking lot paved with some of this stuff - it was pretty "hot"!

My first grade school was also torn down because a large amount radioactive waste was (supposedly) buried under the playground.


They were too thrifty back then to just chuck that kinda waste out. BTW, why'd your dad have a geiger counter?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:05:23 PM   
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Lockport and Niagara Falls?



Close enough - Niagara Falls was the metal producer, and nearby Tonawanda (just south) was the producer of "green salts".

The factory mentioned as being the World's Largest supplier of Uranium metal (in the 1940's) was ElectroMet (Union Carbide’s Electro Metallurgical Company) - the workers at which may have all received fatal doses of radiation (according to one source).


i found this out because of potholes!!

Some company was hired to fix the potholes in the streets of Niagara Falls (they have some spiffy machine) and discovered (after they signed the contract) that many of the streets of the city were paved with radioactive waste... they are kinda upset... i read some details in the article and started digging from there.

When i was a kid, my father and i went out to a bowling alley with a Geiger counter that was rumored to have its parking lot paved with some of this stuff - it was pretty "hot"!

My first grade school was also torn down because a large amount radioactive waste was (supposedly) buried under the playground.

So what you're saying is you were exposed to high doses of radiation as a kid...this explains much!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:06:51 PM   
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They were too thrifty back then to just chuck that kinda waste out. BTW, why'd your dad have a geiger counter?


Didn't all self-respecting cold-war families carry them?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:07:49 PM   
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Rats late again.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:10:16 PM   
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They were too thrifty back then to just chuck that kinda waste out. BTW, why'd your dad have a geiger counter?


Didn't all self-respecting cold-war families carry them?


I just formed a mental image of Ward and the Beaver out back with the old geiger counter.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:10:56 PM   
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Happy hour. Y'all have a great weekend.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:20:44 PM   
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They were too thrifty back then to just chuck that kinda waste out. BTW, why'd your dad have a geiger counter?


Didn't all self-respecting cold-war families carry them?


I just formed a mental image of Ward and the Beaver out back with the old geiger counter.


I'm old enough (just) to have seen a few of the social engineering movies of the cold-war era...you know, the movies that they made about Johny (or whoever) showing how a good young man should act as a civilized American. I can readily imagine dad, in a CD uniform showing Johny how to use a Geiger counter to check and make sure its safe...after the major nuclear holocaust.

I remember in particular a movie that shows a kid ducking behind a brick wall to avoid the shock wave of a nuclear blast.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:22:45 PM   
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BTW, why'd your dad have a geiger counter?


My father was a science teacher (taught Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and (the science part of) Beauty Culture

He had also worked in the various factories around the area, and had investigated (on his own) some of the rumors about radioactive dumping... i found some of the stuff he had told me on various places on the web(notably, dumping radioactive waste into the water supply - done by Linde Air (the "green salts" folks under advice from their lawyers).

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:24:22 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 7/11/2008 10:24:56 PM   
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I remember in particular a movie that shows a kid ducking behind a brick wall to avoid the shock wave of a nuclear blast.


Maybe Atomic Cafe - they had collected a bunch of Civil Defense movies.

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