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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/8/2012 12:39:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		some questions are too easy otherwise. Montgomery and Eisenhower left the Mediterranean theater around Christmas 1943. Clark was still in command when the Allies liberated Rome, but to Clark's great regret, they did that nearly simultaneously with D-Day and he lost out on a lot of publicity.....American generals can have interesting post-war careers if they rack up enough of that.

But Orm has it right. Much like Clark entered Vichy territory before the Allied landings in North Africa, the Allies sent in a general to negotiate with the Italians shortly after the Italians deposed Mussolini. That was General Matt Ridgeway of the 82nd Airborne. He negotiated some with the Italians and they jointly considered a paradrop around the capital to help protect it from the Germans, which almost happened. Fortunately it was called off because it would have been a massacre as German veterans poured into Rome. Negotiating with the Germans was still about a year off....

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/8/2012 6:28:02 PM   
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In the Royal Navy (British Navy) during World War II how can you tell the difference between a Mechanical Transport (MT) and a Landing Ship Infantry (LSI)?

(1) Check with the Ministry of War Transportation (MoWT).
(2) Check what they are carrying.
(3) The troops are getting in the boats.
(4) They carry landing craft.





The answer is not #4.

Not all LSI carried their own landing craft some were merchant ships or liners that the Royal Navy had pressed into service. During Operation TORCH Landing Ship Gantry RFA Derwentdale carried fourteen LCM I for the LSI’s.



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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/8/2012 8:33:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Extraneous

In the Royal Navy (British Navy) during World War II how can you tell the difference between a Mechanical Transport (MT) and a Landing Ship Infantry (LSI)?

(1) Check with the Ministry of War Transportation (MoWT).
(2) Check what they are carrying.
(3) The troops are getting in the boats.
(4) They carry landing craft.





The answer is not #4.

Not all LSI carried their own landing craft some were merchant ships or liners that the Royal Navy had pressed into service. During Operation TORCH Landing Ship Gantry RFA Derwentdale carried fourteen LCM I for the LSI’s.



I will guess on #2.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/8/2012 11:26:27 PM   
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Magee was the ball gunner of the B-17. Why was he so honoured?

Clue -His experience started at 22,000 ft.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/8/2012 11:39:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Extraneous

In the Royal Navy (British Navy) during World War II how can you tell the difference between a Mechanical Transport (MT) and a Landing Ship Infantry (LSI)?

(1) Check with the Ministry of War Transportation (MoWT).
(2) Check what they are carrying.
(3) The troops are getting in the boats.
(4) They carry landing craft.





The answer is not #4.

Not all LSI carried their own landing craft some were merchant ships or liners that the Royal Navy had pressed into service. During Operation TORCH Landing Ship Gantry RFA Derwentdale carried fourteen LCM I for the LSI’s.



I will guess on #2.


Sorry #2 is incorrect.

There are several instances where ships were carrying troops but were considered Mechanical Transport (MT) or Troopships not LSI's.

At Algiers, Algeria HMS Cathay (15,225 tons) is a Transport without reloading or embarking troops sails directly to Bougie, Algeria and becomes a Landing Ship Infantry (Large).


Although the Ministry of War Transportation (MoWT) did not list all LSI unless they were built specifically to be LSI, merchant ships and liners were listed as Troopships.

So the answer is "(3) The troops are getting in the boats" were a LSI now.


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/17/2012 10:01:49 PM   
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Please post more.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/17/2012 10:27:43 PM   
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2. fighting on me was. American, British; German and ost troops
3. the allied forces was only 2 divisions and smaller units

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/17/2012 10:34:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I first think of the battlefields in Normandy, but I fear that was just too easy. So it must be something else.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/17/2012 10:37:28 PM   
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1. famous battlefield in world war II
2. fighting on me was. American, British; German and ost troops
3. the allied forces was only 2 divisions and smaller units


4. the main strong point was a Cigar factory
5. one of the small units were ranger
6. another small unit was a paratrooper regiment
7. other units involved were royal marine commandos and British guards

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 12:15:21 AM   
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Can't really remeber.

So will say Eindhoven.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 9:00:52 AM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 1:17:40 PM   
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I don't know of any cigar factory but I reckon there were rangers at Anzio, so I'll go for that.

I don't think there were any British paras in Anzio or Osttruppen.

What about the fighting in Caen? I guess I'm wrong again, as if I'm not mistaken the Canadians were the inf forces there. And the Rangers were on the other flank in the US sector.

Then again what about Antwerpen? That might be the battlefield!

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 3:54:28 PM   
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the right answer is anzio

the paratroopers: the 504 regiment.
the commandos: the 2nd special service brigade
24. guard brigade was part of the British first division...
and part of the reinforcements were 2 battalions of ost troop

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 4:06:33 PM   
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new battle field.

1. there were major fighting on me
2. but there were no clear winner


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 7:29:33 PM   
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new battle field.

1. there were major fighting on me
2. but there were no clear winner



3. there were many prototype weapons on the battlefield
4. there were major losses on both side. but nobody really took much ground

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 10:34:27 PM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 10:39:22 PM   
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yes kursk was the right answer

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/18/2012 10:59:10 PM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/19/2012 1:50:14 AM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/19/2012 3:35:10 AM   
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Kursk had no clear winner? Mmmm, not sure about that.....


then who was the clear winner

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/19/2012 3:34:24 PM   
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1. Last battle field of WW II in Europe
2. 822. "Georgian" Battaljon.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/19/2012 9:14:29 PM   
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Kursk had no clear winner? Mmmm, not sure about that.....


then who was the clear winner
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Well I would say it was the Soviets - after Citadel, the Germans never regained the initiative.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/19/2012 9:20:22 PM   
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Kursk had no clear winner? Mmmm, not sure about that.....


then who was the clear winner
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Well I would say it was the Soviets - after Citadel, the Germans never regained the initiative.


you can still loss the battle and take initiative..

if you look at ground gained and casualties. it looks more like a tie

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/19/2012 10:40:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets won with the reason that the Germans were never in the position to launch any serious attacks anymore, for the Wehrmacht the campaign was from that point a matter of a controled retreat.

The Germans did not lose, due to the fact that the losses inflicted on the Soviet war machine were tremendous. The amount of tanks lost were huge, but the Soviets were able to replace their losses, whereas the Germans would never be able to.


So from the perspective of both sides: both won. It just depends on what angle you look at the battle.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/20/2012 1:12:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		we are talking about the battle of Kursk.

not who won the campaign.

the reason Germany could not make more offensives was not because of the battle. but more because of the second front in Italy.

which sucked up most of the elite units. (most SS panzer was transferred to other fronts)

and Russia was not ready to attack anywhere before winter (because of its tanks casualties)




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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/20/2012 7:08:45 AM   
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Kursk had no clear winner? Mmmm, not sure about that.....


then who was the clear winner
Warspite1

Well I would say it was the Soviets - after Citadel, the Germans never regained the initiative.



you can still loss the battle and take initiative..

if you look at ground gained and casualties. it looks more like a tie
Warspite1

quote:

you can still loss the battle and take initiative..


So you are saying the Soviets lost

quote:

if you look at ground gained and casualties. it looks more like a tie


But the Soviets could take those casualties and material losses - the Germans couldn't. The Germans did not achieve the objectives of Zitadelle and forever lost the initiative.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/20/2012 6:29:47 PM   
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New battle field:

1. Last battle field of WW II in Europe
2. 822. "Georgian" Battaljon.

3. The arrival of allied troops ended the fighting on the 20th. may 1945
4. Russianwar

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/21/2012 4:15:25 AM   
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New battle field:

1. Last battle field of WW II in Europe
2. 822. "Georgian" Battaljon.

3. The arrival of allied troops ended the fighting on the 20th. may 1945
4. Russianwar




Your dates are wrong on clue 3.

The "Allied" tanks arrived on May 15, 1945.

But the fighting did continue until May 20, 1945.



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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/21/2012 7:51:30 AM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 2/21/2012 7:46:43 PM   
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New battle field:

1. Last battle field of WW II in Europe
2. 822. "Georgian" Battaljon.

3. The arrival of allied troops ended the fighting on the 20th. may 1945
4. Russianwar




Your dates are wrong on clue 3.

The "Allied" tanks arrived on May 15, 1945.

But the fighting did continue until May 20, 1945.



According to my sources, the first Canadian soldiers arrived in force in the early morning of the 20th. of may (and not before). I've looked further, and it seems that only a couple of Allied negotiators arrived on the Island earlier and found that both the Georgians and the Germans weren't prepared to lay down their weapons.

It was Texel, where the Georgians of the Ostlegion rioted against the Germans. Of the 1.200 men from this battallion, there were 800 Georgians and 400 Germans stationed on the Island. Apart from this, there was also a substantial German navy presence on the island, since there were some heavy bunkers with gun emplacements build on the Island as part of the Atlantic Wall.
On the 6th. of april 1945, the Georgian soldiers killed 450 Germans during the night, without fighting one shot. Only knifes and bajonets were used...
The Germans reacted almost immediately and did put 600 Germans on the ferry the next day, equipped with heavy MG's, mortars and even some tanks. The fighting did continue until the 20th. of may 1945.

Of the 800 Georgian soldiers, about 500 were killed. The German losses are estimated at about 600. Those losses are very, very high, if you take into account that only about 3.000 soldiers in total took part in the actual fighting on the Island...

The fighting didn't end on the 5th. of may, because of the fact that the Germans and Georgians kept killing each other, even after the official capitulation of the German forces was signed...

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