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ORIGINAL: String
*shrug* Well must have been you then. Never had such experiences.

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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

The most solo-friendly and casual play-friendly MMO I've found is City of Heroes. I rarely have time to play, but whenever I do even if it's just for 15-30 minutes, I can get something done and be entertained instead of spending the time looking for a group or traveling to a mission destination.

I've tried and enjoyed many MMOs for 1-2 weeks, but most would only work for me if I actually made them my hobby (which is never going to happen) and invested significant time. COH works even with minimal time investment, so I keep a subscription to that active and have it on my laptop for when I need to unwind a bit without much thought.

Regards,

- Erik

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

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ORIGINAL: String
*shrug* Well must have been you then. Never had such experiences.

Not at all, look at the Eve forums (or the Eve University ones, I think they are public).

Do a find for 'advanced station piloting', you'll find plenty of references to it.

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Please read the wartime rules carefully. They are somewhere above this post. They are there for your own good.

If you do not follow them expect reprimands, losing your ship, podding or even being booted from the E-Uni (Most likely after several warnings and discussions with ILN Admiral Silentbrick. I cannot recommend following the rules in wartime enough.

Here are some recent results related to me:

My fleet found a Unista HAULING......DURING WARTIME........IN LO-SEC - Forcefully removed from ship, using missiles.

My fleet spotted a Unista in a Pod, passing through Obanen, today. After he refused convos from several senior members of the E-Uni (Since no Directors were online) and after the fleet had returned, I was in an Inty with scouts hunting for him. Sadly I did not have enough time to get him. - I am glad to say that after continuing to act unpleasantly in corp chat, he removed himself from the E-Uni.

The wartime rules are there for a reason. The Eve-Uni does not want to offer WT's free lunches.

This message is not an instruction, just a recommendation.

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ORIGINAL: Zakhal

Im propably going to start playing Darkfall soon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNJs79Ik6eY&fmt=22 (siege)

Its lighthearted clan based pvp. No need to grind 80 levels and 100 raids to gain enough eq to fight. Eq is as easily replaceable as in original UO. Also this game has ships, ship combat, city building sieges, collision detection, fps style combat, etc. And the standard pve stuff like quests, crafting and sofort. 

There are over 200 ppl in som fights and theres no lag at all as far as Ive heard. The launch was bad and all features and finished but sofar the game looks fun and thats the most important thing.

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR
I cant believe you would have a post about wargamers in MMO's,....and not even bring up World War 2 Online:Battleground Europe.

Erik Rutins
CEO, Matrix Games LLC



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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

A guild I am in is trying a chapter in this game. So far its a disaster. First, one server in europe,....thats it. And obviously an inferior server.

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Queue's been much more bearable yesterday and today. It took less than 30min when there was a queue and most of the time it was instant.

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=164950

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So far they have limited sales. Basically for a period of 2 hours each day you can buy the game.

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

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ORIGINAL: String
*shrug* Well must have been you then. Never had such experiences.

Not at all, look at the Eve forums (or the Eve University ones, I think they are public).

Do a find for 'advanced station piloting', you'll find plenty of references to it.

Here you go, String, this is how laid back and freedom promoting Eve works with the newbie friendly Eve University.

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Please read the wartime rules carefully. They are somewhere above this post. They are there for your own good.

If you do not follow them expect reprimands, losing your ship, podding or even being booted from the E-Uni (Most likely after several warnings and discussions with ILN Admiral Silentbrick. I cannot recommend following the rules in wartime enough.

Here are some recent results related to me:

My fleet found a Unista HAULING......DURING WARTIME........IN LO-SEC - Forcefully removed from ship, using missiles.

My fleet spotted a Unista in a Pod, passing through Obanen, today. After he refused convos from several senior members of the E-Uni (Since no Directors were online) and after the fleet had returned, I was in an Inty with scouts hunting for him. Sadly I did not have enough time to get him. - I am glad to say that after continuing to act unpleasantly in corp chat, he removed himself from the E-Uni.

The wartime rules are there for a reason. The Eve-Uni does not want to offer WT's free lunches.

This message is not an instruction, just a recommendation.

"Do what we say or we will shoot you ourselves". Great! No, that isn't the Elite/Freelancer tradition of space trading games.

I like wargames but if I wanted to join the army I'd do in real life.

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ORIGINAL: Scott_WAR

Ala Cartman's amusement park from South Park. Nobody is allowed in, so naturally everyone wants in that much more.

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Oh Darkfall definately interests me. Since I have about 5 MMO boxes sitting on my shelf, but not on my hard drive, I have decided to give any MMO at least 6 months before I decide to try it or not. That way people have plenty of time to find the flaws, and I can see if they are fatal to them game or not.

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The game is fun, nobody in the game has done everything. The content is far from maxed out. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the game is awful.

There are problems, and I've been the first to point some of them out, but the core of the game is good.

The game will be around until there's something comparable offered. Mortal is months away at a minimum.

People still want:

1. PvP
2. Sandbox
3. boats
4. non-instanced
5. city building
6. 3-D
7. large world
8. some 1st person elements in combat

There's some games out that offer a little, but many people would rather support this game through the trials because in the end what the developers want to create is the same thing we want to play.

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ORIGINAL: Perturabo

That Darkfall sounds interesting. Does anyone know what are its system requirements? I can't find them on its page.

Does anyone know an MMORPG where one doesn't have to grind and farm and can't become a level 300 super warrior with 5000 HP that would work on a 5 years old computer?
I mean something where decent characters are easy to make and expandable?

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ORIGINAL: String
I guess that's why they say that EvE isn't for everyone, it doesn't force feed you stuff like some other MMO's, you have to take the initiative in your own hands and do the stuff yourself.

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ORIGINAL: Tactics

Stay away from Dark Fall. It's a sandbox MMO, but they forgot the sand. Here is the gameplay, in a nutshell.

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This doesn't quite sums up the PVE tactic in DF, it just shows how to zerg vs 1 only mob.
If you are a group of lets say 3, it will be more interesting. especially if you are fighting more than just 1 mob.

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UUUmmm if you zergged any game's mobbed and blocked them in and bashed their head in it would work like that. Not sure why everyone rags on df pve. I enjoy it far more then AoC pve, and even WoW and War PvE. Hell fighting goblins in more fun and challenging then most of the PQ in war.

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The map is begging to flesh out and during the server outage last night I took the time to really look at who's where and marry it up with the tidbits of alliance styled information I've seen on these forums.

http://www.afraidyet.net/forums/misc...e=Darkfall_Map
(turn off all the spawns leaving only cities and hamlets enabled)

The North West island (i.e. Deceit) has two guilds with strong showing in Darfkall, Harm and LoD. I am not sure if they are allied or at war but given the guilds in question I wont be suprised to see tension there in the future (ego kills alliances faster then anything). Based on the recruiting I see in General, it sure looks like Harm is bulking up for long term viability in the game. Finally it's worth noting that CoS is a monster sized guild in Darkfall and their close proximity to Deceit makes them a likely ally to one of the guilds located there.

The North East island (i.e. Hawaii) has the, quite large, Order of the Phoenix with there 150+ members from week one. No intel on alliance or war going on Hawaii but the recent forum drama about the nut-cuppage here says not everything is roses. Consolidations are likely coming.

The South East island (i.e. Australia) has a pretty unusual alignment with a long term competitive european guild (SuN) in close proximity to Bood of AC Darktide fame sharing the same island as LoTD's chapter here in Darkfall (CoCK?). SuN and Blood have an absolutely cordial alliance, wonder what that means for LoTD? None of these guilds would be easy targets in my eyes.

The South West island (i.e. BFE) has a mish mosh of smaller guilds with lower epeen values but with the Vindicators on the nearby penisula I wouldnt be suprised to see them expand into this territory in the future. I'm certain any guild that conquers BFE will have to work out some deal with Vindi as their the closest 800lb gorilla.

Finally, the main continent has a number of interesting challenges shaping up
1) On the east coast you have The Wessex guys who have seen a number of road blocks to their early expansionist dreams but with Goons so close its not likely they will be able to push to the south-middle of the map. Weaker targets definitly appear to be placed on the rim of the main island and I'd look for their expansions in those directions.

2) The west coast definitly appears to be the crafter zone with a number of large number of 'nice' guilds populating the area. These guys might not be expansionists but I bet you their materials and funding will be the backing of some expansionists ambitions.

3) Finally the middle of the map is shaping up to be a cluster ****. In about 5 minutes riding distance you have
- Murder Herd (large pop)
- Goons (large or soon to be large pop)
- Sov
- Image
- Homeless (this name might be true sooner then they think!)
- Finally you have the Merc's hanging out int he center of the map building up their membership, capabilities, and apparantly working an alliance with SoV which makes sense since so many of their key members are old DT'rs.

One thing is for sure this game, like EVE, is going to build up into some MASSIVE wars and I really hope the server supports it.

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana



I don't see how not liking the inability to solo is anything about being 'spoon fed'. If I could use the exploration system on my own I would. Now thats independence, no spoon feeding there.

Unfortunately that needs groups too.

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ORIGINAL: Lützow
Very well made, with georgous graphics but not really adapted for achievemenet style players or socializers.

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ORIGINAL: Hertston

Thanks for the heads up on that. Finally got around to trying EVE in the last couple of weeks and have just signed on. The game farts on all the elves and pixies stuff from a great height; 'Elite' (with 'thinking' rather than 'twitch' combat, which is cool as I suck at twitching) in a universe with 250,000 or so real people, and a thinking person's game to boot (if you want it to be). I'll be playing for a long while I think

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ORIGINAL: String

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ORIGINAL: Lützow
Very well made, with georgous graphics but not really adapted for achievemenet style players or socializers.

I'd say that high level alliance play is exactly for that.

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ORIGINAL: Lützow

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ORIGINAL: String

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ORIGINAL: Lützow
Very well made, with georgous graphics but not really adapted for achievemenet style players or socializers.

I'd say that high level alliance play is exactly for that.

The only achievement in EvE lays in the skill system and for gaining SP you merely have to maintain an active account. You can't influence this process by your playtime and from a certain level of wealth, money hunting becomes pointless, unless you plan to blow up your own stuff by participating in pvp. That is the weak point about EvE's system, even some people may embrace it.

Regarding EQ I was part of a highend raiding guild for many years. We were competing with likeminded organizations over progression and every item we looted from raids, contributed to our own character development and overall strength of the guild. Unlike EvE you got rewarded for dedication, efforts and time you put into the game. That is achievement style from my point of view. In addition you could meet other toons face-to-face, something CCP planned for the future but yet is impossible in EvE.

I'm not saying EvE would be a bad game, actually I enjoyed it for about six months or so, but after this time it became stale. Resubscribed with every new expansion but never could get in anymore.

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ORIGINAL: Zakhal

Equipment is cheap and replaceable and you can fight naked even. You can buy mounts too almost instantly, they are not level xx trophy items but somthing available for everyone like in original UO.

As for skills you you need to train them (i.e sparr with friends or kill mobs/do quests/dungeons) and you can do it simply by grinding or playing the game. However som say that one of DF's features for new players is they have a chance kill an enemy that's been in game longer than them. So you dont have to grind GM skills just to have a chance in pvp.

As for sys req I dont know. I wouldnt say sure for 5 yo pc.

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ORIGINAL: Tactics

Stay away from Dark Fall. It's a sandbox MMO, but they forgot the sand. Here is the gameplay, in a nutshell.