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#### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 11:28:06 AM   
TheElf


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Status: offline 		Ok, you are all in luck. I have convinced the powers that be that it would be a good idea to expose a little bit of what is going on in AE. This is a Benchmarking Test that aims to check the performance of the A2A routines in a HISTORIC setting.

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I am using the Coral Sea Scenario as a base, but intend to test the Lae Wing vs. 75 & 76 Sqdns of the RAAF. I have added the 8th PG (P-39s and P-400s) to the scenario as a potential relief. I am running several turns to allow FAT, MOR, and A/C Availability rates adjust for normal Ops, rather than testing one turn at a time in a vacuum. This is as real as it gets. This is an historical scenario and I am running “Dirty” with all the extras that the Scenario provides, including CARDIV 5 IVO Truk and Lady Lex and Yorktown IVO New Hebrides.

I set 75 & 76 Sqdn up per what I consider to be typical for them at this time (May 42) ~ 60-65 EXP & ~ 60-70 MOR. But obviously something went awry since 76 Sqdn is at 39 EXP! No matter, it will be a good comparison. Let's see what happens.

I’ve also staged the 8th PG at Townsville as a relief should the Aussies become exhausted, as they did IRL. Replacement rates for Aircraft look fine, and I should be able to sustain this test for at least a week or two.

Here are the units to watch and their settings for Day 1:

IJNAF
Tainan Ku K-1 (Saburo Sakai’s unit at Lae)
LCDR Kawai LDR: 59 Insp: 83 Air: 65 Aggr:80
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 20k’

Tainan Ku K-2 (A6M2-21 @ Rabaul)
LCDR Kusumoto LDR: 85 INSP: 85 AIR: 47* AGG: 55*
Unit EXP: 84 MOR: 88 FAT: 12
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 16k’

Genzan Ku K-1 (G3M2 Nell at Rabaul)
LDR is LTJG Ogawa ---- LDR: 82 INSP: 82 AIR: 28^ AGG: 23 (Not good…)
Unit EXP: 79 MOR: 87 FAT: 8
AF Attack @ PM 16k’

Three HQs are present at Rabaul
25th Air Flotilla, RADM Yanagihara LDR: 58 Insp: 54 AIR: 62 AGG: 63
11th Air Fleet, VADM Tsukahara LDR: 54 Insp: 62 AIR: 76 AGG: 52
Southeast Fleet, VADM Kusaka LDR: 69 Insp: 67 AIR: 72 AGG: 59

All three have staffs that are EXP 70 MOR 50

RAAF at Port Moresby

No 75 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
FLT Jackson ---- LDR: 66 Insp: 78 AIR: 66 AGG: 58 (Promising/Careful)
Unit EXP: 68 MOR: 59 FAT: 7 Kills: 0
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 17k’

No 76 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
SLDR Drake ---- LDR: 45 Insp: 42 AIR: 36 AGG: 29 (Promising/Cautious) soon to be replaced! Not sure what happened here. I set EXP to ~ 60 in the editor…
Unit EXP: 34 MOR: 39 FAT: 7 Kills: 1
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 20k’

No HQs in support. 1 x SCR-270 in place at PM. Plenty AV and supply.


First some messages to help explain what happens on Day 1...

Escort of 16 x A6M2-21 Zero from Tainan Ku S-1 unable to locate raid
proceeding onto target Port Moresby
Escort of 10 x Kittyhawk IA from No.75 Sqd RAAF unable to locate raid
proceeding onto target 82nd
Escort of 8 x Kittyhawk IA from No.76 Sqd RAAF unable to locate raid
returning to base

Combat begins. You'll note no PM Air attacks...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/01/42

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
The Sweep out of Lae Goes in First as planned. Initially only 4 Kittys and 1 CAC are up they are repeatedly reinforced in 2s and 3s. The combat wasn’t as one sided as it appears. The Kittyhawks are at two different altitudes, but I think they suffered from a piecemeal defense against a numerically superior foe. I am surprised that 76 Sqdn fared better than 75 Sqdn, but they were on high cover.Combat lasted longer than I expected...


Japanese aircraft
A6M2-21 Zero x 16


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 12
Wirraway x 4



Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-21 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
Wirraway: 3 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A6M2-21 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet (Tainan Ku S-1 / 25th Air Flotilla)
4 x A6M2-21 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet (Tainan Ku S-1 / 25th Air Flotilla)
4 x A6M2-21 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet (Tainan Ku S-1 / 25th Air Flotilla)


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Morning Air attack on 82nd Naval Guard Unit, at 98,127
I wasn't expecting this. These guys were attempting to escort the CACs I had on ground attack to Buna...I wanted the Wirraways out of the way...oh well next time. I think the Lae Wing steals one here as they are 90+ EXP and are probably facing 76 Sqdn @ 39 EXP. No radar is present, but they also have a 3k' Altitude advantage over the Sweep. I did not want to conduct Offensive ops out the gate, but what can I say. I still learned somethign from this.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-21 Zero x 3


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-21 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged


Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Kittyhawk IA sweeping at 17000 feet (No.76 Sqd RAAF / Australia Command)
4 x Kittyhawk IA sweeping at 17000 feet (No.76 Sqd RAAF / Australia Command)
3 x Kittyhawk IA sweeping at 17000 feet (No.76 Sqd RAAF / Australia Command)


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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130
The attack comes off. After the messages I thought they would not make an appearance. They Catch the CAP on the ground after the Sweep stirs them up!

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-21 Zero x 16
G3M2 Nell x 24


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 1
Wirraway x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
Wirraway: 1 damaged

Fortunately for the Aussies, LTJG Ogawa ---- LDR: 82 INSP: 82 AIR: 28^ AGG: 23^ is incompetent and the payload lands harmlessly in the bay...

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 16000 feet (Genzan Ku K-1 / 25th Air Flotilla)
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg AP Bomb
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 16000 feet (Genzan Ku K-1 / 25th Air Flotilla)
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg AP Bomb
9 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 16000 feet (Genzan Ku K-1 / 25th Air Flotilla)
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg AP Bomb


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Morning Air attack on 82nd Naval Guard Unit, at 98,127
The Allies manage to retaliate...sort of
Japanese aircraft
A6M2-21 Zero x 5


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 8
Wirraway x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-21 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged




Here is a breakdown of the units involved, these Stats follow the action of Day 1:

IJNAF
Tainan Ku K-1 (Saburo Sakai’s unit at Lae)
LCDR Kawai LDR: 59 Insp: 83 Air: 65 Aggr:80
Unit EXP: 90 MOR: 99 FAT: 11 Kills: 10 (all after the first day)
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 20k’ (they missed coordinating with the raid from Rabaul and went in first) 1 AC and 1 pilot lost as a result of action

Tainan Ku K-2 (A6M2-21 @ Rabaul)
LCDR Kusumoto LDR: 85 INSP: 85 AIR: 47* AGG: 55*
Unit EXP: 84 MOR: 88 FAT: 12 Kills: 1 (after first day)
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 16k’ (they coordinate with the raid from Rabaul and went in after Tainan Ku K-1 Sweeped) No losses on Day one.

Genzan Ku K-1 (G3M2 Nell at Rabaul)
LDR is LTJG Ogawa ---- LDR: 82 INSP: 82 AIR: 28^ AGG: 23 (Not good…)
Unit EXP: 79 MOR: 87 FAT: 8
AF Attack @ PM 16k’ ( they coordinate and miss the Target, bomb acc = 0%!) 1 write off possibly due to the 10% NAV search. I have secured that for tomorrow…

4th Ku K-1 (G4M2 Betty at Truk) ferried to Rabaul on duty tomorrow for AF attack…more to follow.

Three HQs are present at Rabaul
25th Air Flotilla, RADM Yanagihara LDR: 58 Insp: 54 AIR: 62 AGG: 63
11th Air Fleet, VADM Tsukahara LDR: 54 Insp: 62 AIR: 76 AGG: 52
Southeast Fleet, VADM Kusaka LDR: 69 Insp: 67 AIR: 72 AGG: 59

All three have staffs that are EXP 70 MOR 50

RAAF at Port Moresby


No 75 Sqdn


No 75 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
FLT Jackson ---- LDR: 66 Insp: 78 AIR: 66 AGG: 58 (Promising/Careful)
Unit EXP: 68 MOR: 59 FAT: 7 Kills: 0
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 17k’
Losses DAY 1 = 5 a/c 3 pilots WIA, 1 KIA (one crashed post combat)
Day two readiness --- 21 ready pilots ---- 16 serv. 4 Dmg’d


No 76 Sqdn

No 76 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
SLDR Drake ---- LDR: 45 Insp: 42 AIR: 36 AGG: 29 (Promising/Cautious) soon to be replaced! Not sure what happened here. I set EXP to ~ 60 in the editor…
Unit EXP: 34 MOR: 39 FAT: 7 Kills: 1
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 20k’
Losses DAY 1 = 3 a/c, 1 KIA
Day two readiness --- 22 ready pilots ---- 16 serv./ 2 Maint / 2 Dmg’d / 1 Res.

No HQs in support. 1 x SCR-270 in place at PM. Plenty AV and supply.

More tomorrow...Join me as I execute LTJG Ogawa and find a new LDR who can take the might of the Empire to the allies at PM...and I introduce the 4th Ku to the Kittyhawk IA. Oh and there are two CV TFs out there dying to get to know each other...

Also I'll be using more Screens as I get more proficient with this...bear with me.





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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 11:53:39 AM   
Apollo11


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Ok, you are all in luck. I have convinced the powers that be that it would be a good idea to expose a little bit of what is going on in AE. This is a Benchmarking Test that aims to check the performance of the A2A routines in a HISTORIC setting.

-------------------------------------------
DISCLAIMER: This is meant to give everyone a bit on insight. A preview, if you will, of what is going on behind the curtain. WE ARE IN BETA. Whatever dynamics, trends, paradigms you detect or disagree with are subject to change. Let's not ruin this for everyone. This is not intended to foster debate or support anyone's agenda. Mostly just enjoy and take the time to learn about what is in store with AE.
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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 12:28:00 PM   
TheElf


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Status: offline 		Day 2 of the Test. 2 May 1942.

Weather looked to be a challenge. Fortunately for the IJ it didn't seem to adversely affect coordination checks. All missions went as planned. Unfortunately the Aussies put up a concentrated defense. Tainan Ku K-1 from Lae was particularly hard hit with 2 Zeroes going down in their Sweep. One of which being piloted by Saburo Sakai (99 EXP, 1 Kill, 3rd mission). Not a man easily replaced.

relevant messages:
Escort of 16 x A6M2-21 Zero from Tainan Ku S-1 unable to locate raid
proceeding onto target Port Moresby

This just means that they swept ahead of the Main Strike from Rabaul.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/02/42

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Initially only 3 Kittys are on CAP, however they get the drop on the Lae boys by being 5-6k's higher than yesterday, and were rapidly reinforced to a peak of 40 A/C over the course of the battle. The SCR-270 is really making an impact! The first kill was a Zeke, but the Lae Boys recover quickly. Nearly a 1:1 effort today for the Aussies, and several Zekes were left trailing smoke as they left the area. The battle was prolonged, and ebbed and flowed nicely, even reaching 0 CAP for a moment until a two-ship arrived to keep it going.
Not a victory per se, but certainly an improvement over 10 downed A/C yesterday owing to miscoordination and unintended offensive ops.



Japanese aircraft
A6M2-21 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 32


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-21 Zero: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Sakai does not return. I actually saw his name flash across the screen and then his Machine just blew up...

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed, 11 damaged
Damaged A/C will be a problem, but our boys are well supplied and hard at work through the night! NOTE: Right now, Damage reports are every instance of damage to an A/C, not the ACTUAL number of A/C damaged. Clear as mud?

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

At first I was hopeful the Aussies might overcome an inferior number of ESCORT, but alas the B-team of the Tainan Ko was extremely effective and shepherded their charges to the Target before any Kittys could get a crack at them, and then only doing damage to a single Betty. No wrecks were reported...we did get some retribution for yesterdays manhandling...

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-21 Zero x 12
G4M1 Betty x 18

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-21 Zero: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged


This Betty made it home and is the only A/C not ready for ops in the morning...

AP Bombs....
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 16000 feet (4th Ku K-1 / 11th Air Fleet)
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg AP Bomb
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 16000 feet (4th Ku K-1 / 11th Air Fleet)
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg AP Bomb
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 16000 feet (4th Ku K-1 / 11th Air Fleet)
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg AP Bomb

A unit update following Day 2's action:

IJNAF
Tainan Ku K-1 (Saburo Sakai’s unit at Lae)
LCDR Kawai LDR: 59 Insp: 83 Air: 65 Aggr:80
Unit EXP: 89 MOR: 91 FAT: 19 Kills: 13 (10 + 3 today)
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 20k’ 2 A/c lost ----------------- Po2 Sakai was last seen in a dive on fire, another pilot is missing as a result of action
READINESS:
A/C -- 22s/0m/2d/0r ---------------- this is Serviceable/in Maintenance/Damaged/Reserve
Pilots -- 23 ready + 1 drawn from pool = 24 for tomorrow[b/]


Tainan Ku K-2 (A6M2-21 @ Rabaul)
LCDR Kusumoto LDR: 85 INSP: 85 AIR: 47* AGG: 55*
Unit EXP: 84 MOR: 93 FAT: 14 Kills: 5 (1 + 4 today)
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 16k’ (they coordinate with the raid from Rabaul and went in after Tainan Ku K-1 Sweeped. Kusumoto does a great job of leading and getting the bombers to the target but his knowledge of fighter tactics hurt K-2 today) 3 AC lost today, with 1 KIA and 1 MIA.
READINESS:
A/c -- 16s/0m/8d/0r
Pilots -- 25 ready
LCDR Nakajima (L73-I80-A74-Ag75) arrived to relieve LCDR Kusumoto


Genzan Ku K-1 (G3M2 Nell at Rabaul)
LDR is LTJG Ogawa ---- LDR: 82 INSP: 82 AIR: 28^ AGG: 23 (Not good…)
Unit EXP: 79 MOR: 87 FAT: 8
Stood down. ( they have the day off, bomb acc = 0%!)


Introducing the 4th Ku K-1. Arrived overnight from Rabaul, they had the duty today, while Genzan Ku rested.

4th Ku K-1 (G4M2 Betty at Truk)
LDR is LCDR Nagaishi ---- LDR: 43 INSP: 37 AIR: 55 AGG: 28 (Not good…)
Unit EXP: 77 MOR: 79 FAT: 8
AF Attack @ PM 16k’ (they coordinate and ALSO miss the Target, bomb acc = 0%!) 1 DMG'd Crate coming off target. They are on Naval Attack tomorrow. There is a reported SFC TF at PM. Torpedoes are being readied...

Genzan had the day off and are at full readiness to assume AF Attack duties tomorrow. If Ogawa doesn't get it done he's out...

RAAF at Port Moresby
RAAF is in a bad way. I've had to move elements of the 8th PG into PM MUCH earlier than anticipated. I blame myself. That ill-fated attempt at getting the CACs out of the way yesterday cost us...however there is a silver lining. Even though as the sun set there were only 5 ready crates for tomorrow I am confident the boys will get the comers up and ready by dawn. Now that we've figured the Nips out we have a shot. We just need some airworthy runners.

No 75 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
FLT Jackson ---- LDR: 66 Insp: 78 AIR: 66 AGG: 58 (Promising/Careful)
Unit EXP: 70 MOR: 68 FAT: 8 Kills: 3 (all today, and all Zekes!)
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 24k’
Losses DAY 2 = 2 a/c 2 pilots WIA
READINESS:
A/c -- 2s/0m/16d/0r
Pilots -- 19 ready + 2 replacements (low 60s)



No 76 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
SLDR Drake ---- LDR: 45 Insp: 42 AIR: 36 AGG: 29 (Promising/Cautious) replaced!
New CO: SLDR Hampshire (L62-I79-A75-Ag70) This guy is good...
EXP: 35 MOR: 34 FAT: 6 Kills: 3 (1 + 2 today) ---- even though these guys are inexperienced they’ve managed to equal the score of 75 Sqdn. Let see how that holds up…
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 22k’
Losses: 5 a/c, 1 KIA, 3 WIA ------ Here is where EXP is telling
READINESS:
A/c -- 3s/2m/11d/0r
Pilots -- 18 ready + 3 replacements ( 21 for tomorrow!)

Losses total
18 Kittyhawks
6 Zekes


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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 12:44:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Damage reports are every instance of damage to an A/C, not the ACTUAL number of A/C damaged. Clear as mud? "


Oooohhh...I like this..So individual planes can be damaged more than once in a fight without necessarily bringing them down..I like this a lot!


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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 12:46:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent Elf, Are your Bombers using Armour Piercing or Anti Personnel bombs??

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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 1:55:15 PM   
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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 2:19:29 PM   
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Excellent Elf, Are your Bombers using Armour Piercing or Anti Personnel bombs??



I guess they are still using the armor piercing bombs, just like in WITP. Elf will correct me if I´m wrong.

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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 2:39:25 PM   
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quote:

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Excellent Elf, Are your Bombers using Armour Piercing or Anti Personnel bombs??



I guess they are still using the armor piercing bombs, just like in WITP. Elf will correct me if I´m wrong.

You are correct, and it is under review.

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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 10:39:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ku = Kokutai?

What means K-1 and S-1 in names of units?


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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/10/2008 10:56:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos

Ku = Kokutai?



Yup.

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ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos

What means K-1 and S-1 in names of units?



K = Kogeki or "Attack", S = Sentoki or "Fighter", thus

4th Ku K-1 = 4th Kokutai, Kogeki [Hikotai] 1 or 4th Air Group, Attack [Squadron] 1



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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/11/2008 2:09:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe your bombing would improve if you fly some recon missions over PM?

Please show the starting number of aircraft for each day then the ending number for each day!

Is there a chance of fail aircraft repair and plane is scraped, other wise I don't see aircraft maintenance doing much to model planes scraped for parts.

Would like to see some random delay on air replacements (1-4) days, no Air HQ -2 day.

Maybe aircraft maintenance should also be effected by Air HQ, no HQ fewer parts, slower repair.





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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/11/2008 7:04:50 AM   
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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/11/2008 8:59:56 AM   
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Looking forward to the rest!


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RE: #### OFFICIAL ADMIRAL's EDITION AAR #### - 9/11/2008 9:19:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Many thanks for this and cant wait for the rest

If ive understood this correctly the CAP increases as combat goes on, does this depend on the number of a/c on CAP and LRCAP missions? If this is so, then its brilliant. Adds more realism to the game. Also loving the new messages and the fact that units tha do not locate traget have the common sense to engage secondary targets. Cheers Elf and rest of AE team

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3 May 42: A Day of Rest - 9/11/2008 9:44:05 AM   
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No land based Air flies. PM missions were cancelled due to weather, but all was not lost. The Lex and Yorktown launched strikes on the uncovered AMPHIBGRU heading toward Moresy, and gave them hell.

That's all good cuz Air ops in WWII ran in fits and spurts. On the allied side it gave my Aussies an extra day's reprieve from Attack, not that the 4th Ku or Genzan Ku have been worth a damn, but the Zekes have taken their toll on them. I will run more recon, but this scenario is not equipped with dedicated Recon, but I can bring a Det of 9 Nells down. Unfortuantely they are not trained in Recon…

The weather day also gives the 36th PS an extra day to get their Cobras in fighting shape for what will be a big day tomorrow...

This is a great opportunity to see how Air Units recover after two solid days of Combat at the front.

Here is the action:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/03/42

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,134

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 18

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
xAP Huzi Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Rakuyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
APD Oite, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Miike Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
346 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,134

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD Asanagi
xAP Rio de Janiero Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Sakito Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
APD-2

Japanese ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 100,136

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 18
SBD-3 Dauntless x 31
TBD-1 Devastator x 24


Allied aircraft losses
TBD-1 Devastator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Tango Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD-1, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Buenos Aires Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
861 casualties reported
Guns lost 13



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 5000 feet (VT-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 5000 feet (VT-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 5000 feet (VT-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 5000 feet (VT-2 / None)
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet (VB-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 5000 feet (VT-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x TBD-1 Devastator bombing from 5000 feet (VT-5 / None)
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Following a day of rest here are the Units of interest dispostions:


IJNAF
Tainan Ku K-1
LCDR Kawai LDR: 59 Insp: 83 Air: 65 Aggr:80
Unit EXP: 89 MOR: 97 FAT: 8 Kills: 13 (Not much change, MOR is up 6)
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 20k’ No Offensive sorties --
READINESS:
A/c -- 24s/0m/0d/0r -- 2 Damaged Zekes come back up, full strength
Pilots -- 24 for tomorrow (no additions)


Tainan Ku K-2 (A6M2-21 @ Rabaul)
LCDR Nakajima LDR: 73 INSP: 80 AIR: 74* AGG: 75* I expect greatness from this guy.
Unit EXP: 85 MOR: 99 FAT: 12 Kills: 5 (EXP went up one point!)
40% CAP 60% SWEEP @ 16k’ (no action)
READINESS:
A/c -- 19s/0m/5d/0r -- 3 A/C return to the flightline
Pilots -- 25 ready (no additions)
LCDR Kusumoto left on a Mavis transport. Off to some staff back in the HI...


Genzan Ku K-1 (G3M2 Nell at Rabaul)
LDR is LTJG Ogawa ---- LDR: 85 INSP: 82 AIR: 28^ AGG: 23 (As inspirational as he is he, just doesn't have the goods...)
Unit EXP: 79 MOR: 94 FAT: 3 (MOR is up 7! Perhaps Ogawa DOES have some positive effect!)
AF Attack @ PM 16k’ ( No flights...)
READINESS:
A/c -- 26s/0m/0d/0r -- No change
Pilots -- 26 ready (no additions)


4th Ku K-1 (G4M2 Betty at Truk) on duty today.
LDR is LCDR Nagaishi ---- LDR: 43 INSP: 37 AIR: 55 AGG: 28 (Not good…)
Unit EXP: 77 MOR: 79 FAT: 8
AF Attack @ PM 16k’ (No Offensive sorties Bomb Acc = 0%!) Still on for Naval Attack tomorrow. There is a reported SFC TF at PM. Torpedoes are still ready...
READINESS:
A/c -- 26s/0m/0d/0r – the 1 damaged Crate from the previous days raid is patched up.
Pilots -- 27 ready (no additions)

RAAF at Port Moresby

No 75 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
FLT Jackson ---- LDR: 66 Insp: 78 AIR: 66 AGG: 58 (Promising/Careful)
Unit EXP: 68 MOR: 69 FAT: 3 Kills: 4 (Not sure where the 4th kill came from, EXP is down 2 pts too. No pilots are missing...)
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 24k’ No action. Weathered out...
Losses DAY 3 = NONE
READINESS:
A/C -- 3s/0m/15d/0r ( 1 plane is fixed. Maybe the damage is worse than I thought?)
Pilots -- 21 ready

No 76 Sqdn (Kittyhawk IA)
EXP: 35->37 MOR: 34->47 FAT: 3 Kills: 3 (EXP goes up 2, MOR is up too. Maybe the Change of Command has helped...Drakes Inspiration was 42, SLDR Hampshire is a born leader)
SLDR Drake ---- LDR: 45 Insp: 42 AIR: 36 AGG: 29 (Promising/Cautious) replaced!
New CO: SLDR Hampshire L62-I79-A75-Ag70
CAP 40% ESCORT 60% @ 22k’ No sorties
Losses: NONE
READINESS:
A/c -- 3->7s/2->0m/11->9d/0r ( 4 A/C come up)
Pilots -- 21 ready

Losses total - No change
18 Kittyhawks
6 Zekes




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You say you have no recon units, then what's spotting allied ships?

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Is it the AI that's sending Japanese troop transports to the front with no air cover?

You say you have no recon units, then what's spotting allied ships?


Not the AI per se. I am running this H2H, but at first did not pay much attention to the Naval Components, since my objective was testing A2A around PM.

Since I began the test though, the CV TFs have moved in the general direction of each other per the Scenario 1st move settings. I have since begun prepping for the battle of Coral Sea, which you will see in time.

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RE: 3 May 42: A Day of Rest - 9/11/2008 6:29:03 PM   
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Lots of action. This will be in multiple posts.

Two night surface engagments kick things off. I was not expecting this as I was not playing the SFC TFs actively. I was leaving the CAs Chicago, Ausrtralia, and CL Hobart stand guard at PM, but they reacted to the impending invasion force. First the hit the small screen (I think) made up of CL Tenryu, 2 x DDs, and 2 x small Aux vessels. Unfortunately an otherwise brilliant crossing of the T by Crace was marred right off the bat by a 53cm Torpedo in Australias side. This coming from Tenryu at the head of the line.

After that in short order, the ABDA dispatched Mutsuki, Yayoi, and the AMc Fumi Maru #2.


Combat starts at 2,000yds and is a bloody affair, then recedes with both sides licking wounds


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/04/42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 98,133

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
AMc Fumi Maru #2, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Mifuku Maru

Allied Ships
CA Chicago, Shell hits 1
CA Australia, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Hobart
DD Walke
DD Farragut, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported


More to Follow as the Australia and her escorts tear into the Troop line...


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RE: 4 May 42: A Day of Heavy Action - 9/11/2008 8:41:38 PM   
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RE: 4 May 42: A Day of Heavy Action - 9/11/2008 8:42:30 PM   
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RE: 4 May 42: A Day of Heavy Action - 9/11/2008 8:50:10 PM   
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I take it the gray message boxes are now part of suface combat? I like them!

No, it's photoshpped, but the messages did appear in the window at the bottom...SAIEW...

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I take it the gray message boxes are now part of suface combat? I like them!


I would really like it if they were. Its hard to catch and digest all that text flying by on the bottom!

Edit: You beat me to it Elf. Oh well. Just slow down message speed

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RE: 4 May 42: A Day of Heavy Action - 9/11/2008 9:02:11 PM   
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