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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/24/2008 7:54:25 PM   
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In the shops, they cost as much as they did back then as far as I'm concerned...but I'm earning almost 3 times as much...


Back in 1984 I was a college kid who had to work - you know flipping the proverbial burgers - to be able to afford the little extras like wargames.

I guess suggesting that solution to those currently complaining about how costly these computer wargames are is a big no-no, but I might quote Major H, developer of TacOps, once again : "If you can't afford the occasional $50 to buy yourself a new wargame, get yourself another hobby".

My miniature wargaming group is always amazed how cheap computer wargames are. $50 will get you 3 unpainted lead hussars or half a dozen plastic trees.

Greetz,

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/24/2008 7:56:01 PM   
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...There was only one place within 50 miles that had ANY computer wargames. Those were the days though! That store let you try before you bought the game (using their in-store machine). So I always had a good idea of what I was buying.



Something that's missing from today's environment that often influenced my purchasing decisions. Demo's are one thing, but since I learned many years ago the hard way that demo's are often misleading as to the final product I don't bother with them.

Seeing a retail version on a store computer, often with two people going at it H2H makes a big effect. I can sort of get the same effect by going to the PC rooms but all you get there is WOW and CS etc. Nothing like what we get from Matrix.





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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/24/2008 9:15:23 PM   
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Seeing a retail version on a store computer, often with two people going at it H2H makes a big effect. I can sort of get the same effect by going to the PC rooms but all you get there is WOW and CS etc. Nothing like what we get from Matrix.


What Matrix does do is go to wargame conventions where you can try each and every one of their games. As it's the full game and you have someone who knows the game on stand-by you can really get a good impression of what a game plays like.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/24/2008 10:21:04 PM   
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In the shops, they cost as much as they did back then as far as I'm concerned...but I'm earning almost 3 times as much...


Back in 1984 I was a college kid who had to work - you know flipping the proverbial burgers - to be able to afford the little extras like wargames.

I guess suggesting that solution to those currently complaining about how costly these computer wargames are is a big no-no, but I might quote Major H, developer of TacOps, once again : "If you can't afford the occasional $50 to buy yourself a new wargame, get yourself another hobby".

My miniature wargaming group is always amazed how cheap computer wargames are. $50 will get you 3 unpainted lead hussars or half a dozen plastic trees.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx



Considering what I was making in the eighties and spending it on, I kinda wonder how I was able to afford it then as well.

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 7:35:19 AM   
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Considering what I was making in the eighties and spending it on, I kinda wonder how I was able to afford it then as well.


The plus side of not actually really being able to afford it was that you were *really* excited when you finally got your paws on the thing. Playing the game was all you did for the next two weeks. Today, with prices what they are, I actually sometimes buy & download on a whim, not even really playing the game until weeks afterwards. $50 is what today ? 30 Euros ? That's 2 movie tickets and some drinks & candy.

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 7:39:59 AM   
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Seeing a retail version on a store computer, often with two people going at it H2H makes a big effect. I can sort of get the same effect by going to the PC rooms but all you get there is WOW and CS etc. Nothing like what we get from Matrix.


What Matrix does do is go to wargame conventions where you can try each and every one of their games. As it's the full game and you have someone who knows the game on stand-by you can really get a good impression of what a game plays like.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx


Sorry

When were they last in the UK?

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 8:08:23 AM   
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When were they last in the UK?


At one point there was talk of going to Salute (London), but costs were a bit prohibitive I guess.

But they are going to Crisis (Antwerp) this year which always has a large English element. Last year the guys from the Salute club were there and a lot of English traders make the crossing too.

Next game convention where you can find Matrix will be Spiel in Essen (Germany) in October.

Sure, you'll have to travel a bit, but you can't expect Matrix to come to your house now, can you ?

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 8:18:15 AM   
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Hated it. That old SSG interface... *ARGH*
I don't remeber the interface, but I didn't care for the game either. Unlike the SSI titles, the SSG ones seemed to just play themselves, with minimal input from the player. Not my thing.


I didn't even touch that aspect (it mostly applied to the ground pounder games though). The interface was a LOT of CR's followed by a "Y", some escapes, and an occasional arrow key (but only intermittantly/randomly in place of the CR's). It was horrible... give me a menu key to hit, instead of having to cycle through everything. Everytime!

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I suppose the C-64 version came out sometime after that. I bought my C-64 sometime the following year, 1985, along with the game.
Silent Service was also out for the C-64 at the time I bought the computer in 1985. In fact, it was these two games that compelled me to buy the computer.


SSI's Fighter Command made it in my front door before I carried in the computer.

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 8:29:05 AM   
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Back in 1984 I was a college kid who had to work - you know flipping the proverbial burgers - to be able to afford the little extras like wargames.

I've never had one of those! What does a proverbial burger taste like? And could one order proverbial cheese for it? *grin*

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 9:13:39 AM   
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Back in 1984 I was a college kid who had to work - you know flipping the proverbial burgers - to be able to afford the little extras like wargames.

I've never had one of those! What does a proverbial burger taste like? And could one order proverbial cheese for it? *grin*


I actually took a job loading and unloading industrial dryers in a hospital because it was heavy-duty work with a heavy-duty paycheck attached. Strictly blue-collar job and my boss was literally an illiterate, but it made it possible for me to buy stuff I couldn't have been able to afford otherwise. It also made me slightly disrespect people who claim they can't afford $50 stuff, but have time to complain about it on a forum using a $1000 computer. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_money_does_a_McDonald's_employee_earn

8 hours working there earns one a shiny new computer wargame.

Greetz,

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 9:36:32 AM   
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Sure, you'll have to travel a bit, but you can't expect Matrix to come to your house now, can you ?


How about my continent?

It's ok. We're used to having to go elsewhere for things we want to see. When your whole continent/country only has the population of 21 million that's just a fact of life.

Wait a minute! 21 million...whole continent...ludicrous amounts of resources of almost all kinds...teeming millions to our north...man the barricades!

Cheers, Neilster

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 9:42:56 AM   
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How about my continent?


Well, you could take care of that - Matrix is always looking for volunteers to go to local wargame conventions for them.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/m.asp?m=781083

Greetz,

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 2:11:32 PM   
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Strictly blue-collar job and my boss was literally an illiterate, but it made it possible for me to buy stuff I couldn't have been able to afford otherwise. It also made me slightly disrespect people who claim they can't afford $50 stuff, but have time to complain about it on a forum using a $1000 computer. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.



Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx



You my friend are a ignorant person. Try evolving slightly more than a rock and understand that there are people in this world on tight budgets. Whether it be putting kids through college, mounting medical bills, loss of job/s and yes people with disabilties than aren't able to find employment.


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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 2:54:37 PM   
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You my friend are a ignorant person.


Oh, the delicious irony

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 3:06:06 PM   
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You my friend are a ignorant person.


Oh, the delicious irony

Cheers, Neilster


I'm happy to entertain you . However, I'd be lying if I said it was intentional or a typo.

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 4:06:45 PM   
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How about my continent?


Well, you could take care of that - Matrix is always looking for volunteers to go to local wargame conventions for them.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/m.asp?m=781083

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx


They seem to be a bit thin on the ground around here.

Also, my wargaming and massive interest in military history must remain a filthy, dark secret. I don't think my cool friends would get it. I'm too ashamed to be "out"

Anyway, I hang with some pretty hot chicks so I don't mind living a lie.

Cheers, Neilster










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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 4:47:55 PM   
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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 5:05:57 PM   
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Anyway, I hang with some pretty hot chicks so I don't mind living a lie


Ok move over pretty boy I'm on my way to Tasmania

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 5:31:09 PM   
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Strictly blue-collar job and my boss was literally an illiterate, but it made it possible for me to buy stuff I couldn't have been able to afford otherwise. It also made me slightly disrespect people who claim they can't afford $50 stuff, but have time to complain about it on a forum using a $1000 computer. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.


Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx



You my friend are a ignorant person. Try evolving slightly more than a rock and understand that there are people in this world on tight budgets. Whether it be putting kids through college, mounting medical bills, loss of job/s and yes people with disabilties than aren't able to find employment.



Nah, I just have the tendency to tell it like it is. Some people can handle that, you obviously can't. I see you have 161 posts in here. Let's say each of them took 3 minutes on average. That's roughly 8 hours of typing. If you had spend that in a more productive way you could have bought that wargame you so long for. You like it better to post in here ? That's fine, and I can certainly relate to that, but getting your priorities straight is all up to you. But I guess it's easier to blame the "system" for "shafting it to consumers"

Greetz,

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 7:54:04 PM   
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Nah, I just have the tendency to tell it like it is. Some people can handle that, you obviously can't.


I think telling it like you see it would more accurately describe what you post, rest assured it's not "telling it like it is".

The rest of your post is too sophomoric to warrant any kind of response.

Good luck with life!


 
 
 

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/25/2008 10:58:37 PM   
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Back in 1984 I was a college kid who had to work - you know flipping the proverbial burgers - to be able to afford the little extras like wargames.

I've never had one of those! What does a proverbial burger taste like? And could one order proverbial cheese for it? *grin*


I actually took a job loading and unloading industrial dryers in a hospital because it was heavy-duty work with a heavy-duty paycheck attached.

So you didn't flip proverbial burgers? And I've heard of them for so long, but have never tasted one. I was hoping you could tell us what they taste like! *grin*

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It also made me slightly disrespect people who claim they can't afford $50 stuff, but have time to complain about it on a forum using a $1000 computer. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_money_does_a_McDonald's_employee_earn

8 hours working there earns one a shiny new computer wargame.


I admit I've not really been following the debate aspects of this thread (I only joined the thread to reminisce and to correct a misleading implication that SSI games could always be found cheaper than retail). I really don't see the point in the debate. Neither side will ever change their minds or be convinced. And I see more than "slight disrespect" growing out of the thread.

Having said that, I believe you're making an argument for your opposition. That income would not allow you survive in many places, much less buy a game. Or are you saying that with games statistically costing half of previously, that people should have to take second jobs to afford games now?

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 12:27:34 AM   
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but I might quote Major H, developer of TacOps, once again : "If you can't afford the occasional $50 to buy yourself a new wargame, get yourself another hobby".

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx



Accually he sells his game for half that $25



Obviously that sales pitch didn’t pan out for Major H as intended , kind of like you representing Matrix price policy with your condescending attitude.

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 7:55:16 AM   
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Having said that, I believe you're making an argument for your opposition. That income would not allow you survive in many places, much less buy a game.


No, my point is that if you're so close to the poverty line that you can't afford $50 to spend on your favourite hobby you need to get your priorities straight and do something about your financial situation. For a kid this means getting a paper route, for a college kid some evening/weekend job, for grown-ups a second job, work hard to get a promotion, study hard to get a better paying job, etc.

But typing "computer games are *soooooo* expensive these days that I can't afford them" on a board using a $1000 computer, isn't going to help because some smartass like me is going to come along and prove that computer wargames today cost exactly half of what they costed 25 years ago, when (financial) times for me where tough. Well, I did something about that, and it wasn't by complaining about prices and my income on a message board, it was by working hard to make sure I could buy the things I wanted.

I come from a poor background so I *know* what's it's like to not being able to afford the little extras. But there's a remedy for poorness : it's called "Hard Work" - but that seems to be asking too much from people these days.

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 8:12:18 AM   
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but I might quote Major H, developer of TacOps, once again : "If you can't afford the occasional $50 to buy yourself a new wargame, get yourself another hobby".



Accually he sells his game for half that $25


It was a response by the Major to another "games are sooooo expensive" whiner, back when his game was $40-50 or such.

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Obviously that sales pitch didn’t pan out for Major H as intended ,


It worked perfectly - last I heard his wargame development income provides him with enough extra money to let him do the things he enjoys most. See the pattern here ? work -> income -> able to afford the little extras.

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kind of like you representing Matrix price policy with your condescending attitude.


I couldn't care less about their price policy - I just jumped into this thread because people wanted to know how much wargames today costed compared to 25 years ago, taking into account inflation.

That some people don't *like* the answer : that they've essentially halved in price - because it blows their whining "games are soooo expensive today" position right out of the water is not my fault. But I can't say that I don't like it - I'm a bit of a b*st*rd that way.

Greetz,

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 9:49:44 AM   
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Having said that, I believe you're making an argument for your opposition. That income would not allow you survive in many places, much less buy a game.


No, my point is that if you're so close to the poverty line that you can't afford $50 to spend on your favourite hobby you need to get your priorities straight and do something about your financial situation. For a kid this means getting a paper route, for a college kid some evening/weekend job, for grown-ups a second job, work hard to get a promotion, study hard to get a better paying job, etc.


I think you've gotten to the crux of your viewpoint on prices... "tough, get more money."

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 9:53:00 AM   
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I think telling it like you see it would more accurately describe what you post, rest assured it's not "telling it like it is".


Care to elaborate which parts of my observations aren't correct ? Was it the "wargames have halved in price" part or the "stop complaining, start working" part ? As I see it, you've lost another 50 cents by responding to me again. I can afford doing that, but you claim you can't so ...

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The rest of your post is too sophomoric to warrant any kind of response.


Hit a nerve there probably ...

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Good luck with life!


Some people need luck, others make their own.

Greetz,

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 10:08:29 AM   
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Having said that, I believe you're making an argument for your opposition. That income would not allow you survive in many places, much less buy a game.


No, my point is that if you're so close to the poverty line that you can't afford $50 to spend on your favourite hobby you need to get your priorities straight and do something about your financial situation. For a kid this means getting a paper route, for a college kid some evening/weekend job, for grown-ups a second job, work hard to get a promotion, study hard to get a better paying job, etc.


I think you've gotten to the crux of your viewpoint on prices... "tough, get more money."


Basically : yes - I have the same gut reaction to people complaining about how fat they are. Is there someone pointing a gun to their head forcing them to eat that much food or what ?

Unless you've got a serious mental or physical handicap you can't get much sympathy from me complaining how poor you are ... especially not when doing it using a $1000 device. That's like a Ferrari owner complaining about the gaz prices. Poor ? been there - done something about it - fully expect other people to be able to do the same.

As to my view on prices & Matrix Games : I've posted about that in here and elsewhere before : basically I think that given that online sales provide them with near-perfect sales info and that their yearly sales period allows them to gauge the price elasticity of their games I think they're in a perfect position to set their prices at the sweet spot where *their* income is maximized. Note that this doesn't mean high prices, just that sales number times sales price is maximized for them. This is the way I expect everyone to run his business and it's the only way to ensure business continuity.

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 11:03:12 AM   
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I think you've gotten to the crux of your viewpoint on prices... "tough, get more money."


Unless you've got a serious mental or physical handicap you can't get much sympathy from me complaining how poor you are ... especially not when doing it using a $1000 device.


FWIW, what I took from your opposition's frustration is that you didn't seem to allow for any different situations (i.e. if you have a computer, it must be a $1000.00 computer that you bought at full price and thus should be able to afford games at all times since that purchase, no matter what) And yet in the first part of that sentence above, you allow that not one, but two circumstances are different.

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As to my view on prices & Matrix Games : I've posted about that in here and elsewhere before :


We covered all that... "tough, get more money."

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 11:22:44 AM   
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FWIW, what I took from your opposition's frustration is that you didn't seem to allow for any different situations (i.e. if you have a computer, it must be a $1000.00 computer that you bought at full price and thus should be able to afford games at all times since that purchase, no matter what) And yet in the first part of that sentence above, you allow that not one, but two circumstances are different.


Sure, it is entirely possible that the poster in question has an (in my eyes) legit reason for complaining - but look around you in the Real World : what are the odds of that ? Complaining about a situation that's entirely your own fault is Standard Practice these days and I've had my belly full of it. Also note that when pointing that out - what you correctly condensed to "tough, get a job" - the reply wasn't "I can't because <insert good reason>" but more of the "The system shafting it to consumers" and other rethoric I don't care about.

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ORIGINAL: E
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ORIGINAL: sterckxe
As to my view on prices & Matrix Games : I've posted about that in here and elsewhere before :


We covered all that... "tough, get more money."


eh, no, not really - every company that's well-run sets its prices at a level which maximizes their income. Which in this case also means maximizing the income of the wargame developers, which in turn crank out the games we like. What you can do as a consumer is to either buy it at the set price or not. Complaining about it won't change the price as it's set at the optimum for those who created the stuff in the first place. The wargame market is a regular free market too, with supply and demand setting the price, not the level of a particular gamer's bank account.

So it's not "tough, get more money" - it's "tough, the price is set correctly"

Greetz,

Eddy Sterckx

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RE: Blast from the past: A review of Carrier Force (SSI... - 9/26/2008 12:54:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		If an individual can't afford to go the cinema, eat fast-food, watch cable-TV, talk on a cell-phone or surf the Internet from home, he or she is perhaps unable to pay $50 for a game. If the individual can do some or all of those things, the purchase of a game that might provide hundreds of hours of entertainment would appear to be discretionary. Just about all of us have limits on what we can and can't afford, so we prioritize. If there's stuff in your life that's more important than wargaming, GO FOR  IT. Free people that live within their means are still allowed to make decisions like that, least ways until government decides otherwise.

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