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RE: it goes on... - 2/9/2009 8:55:53 AM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/31/42

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TF 1002 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)

Allied Ships
MSW Tamworth
MSW Kalgoorlie

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TF 1002 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)

Allied Ships
MSW Tamworth
MSW Kalgoorlie

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 84
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 23
Hurricane IIc x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 9 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 13 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 13 destroyed, 1 damaged

this time Iīve set two bases to attack Chungking and thank god my sweep goes in today... needless to say that our sentais were bounced for the whole duration of the engagement. The fact that I again used my best sentais available produces still a "good" result for us, would I have sent 70 exp pilots, the kill rate would probably be 2,5:1 for the Allied. Ridicoulos when you see 50 Hurricanes endlessly bouncing 84 Oscars. Guess Iīve seen the "Hurricane squadron bounces Oscar sentai" a hundred times+ this turn. Reason for this are 5 radar equipped base forces. And hey, not to forget the fact that two of my sentais were coming in higher than the Hurricane max altitude is, but I know that alt doesnīt matter anyway. Still funny when radar magically increases the max alt of an aircraft by a couple of thousand feet.

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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 52
Ki-21 Sally x 53
Ki-49 Helen x 133

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 7
Hurricane IIc x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 7 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 20 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 7 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 8 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 63

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 16000 feet

then the bomber strike goes in and the second strike always kills off the Cap at will. I would have been better off just sending another sweep because as you can see, we did not destroy any significant numbers of ac on the ground. And what does this mean? This means the radar equipped Chinese base forces enabled the Allied to launch 99% of their fighters on Cap. Guess it was 100% and the destroyed ac was damaged before. Not bad eh? When I look at the fighters over Koepang that take off and I get 100 fighters out of 290 undamaged fighters then this is just depressing.

Not the Corsair, not the Thunderbolt, not the Lightning are uber weapons, Allied radar makes them absolutely uber in the game.




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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 168


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
421 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 7
Port supply hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 36th Division, at 43,32


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 14
Hurricane IIc x 13


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd Ind. Brigade, at 43,32


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 5


Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

I can only be happy about those fighter bombers attacking my units at Chungking, otherwise those would have also launched 100% to engage my incoming strikes. Hopefully there isnīt a base in China left that has 20.000 supplies, this would mean that the British and Australian squadrons in China donīt get any reinforcements.






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Day Air attack on 3rd New Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 4
Ki-49 Helen x 38

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 53rd Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3
Ki-49 Helen x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at 47,28

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73776 troops, 755 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1425

Defending force 11720 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 305

Japanese max assault: 1417 - adjusted assault: 1369

Allied max defense: 211 - adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 195 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
292 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
843 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14175 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2939

Defending force 93374 troops, 218 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3133



Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8410 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1531

Defending force 27602 troops, 200 guns, 225 vehicles, Assault Value = 405



Allied ground losses:
230 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16069 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3440

Defending force 222442 troops, 794 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5805



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RE: it goes on... - 2/9/2009 11:05:48 PM   
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Hi Castor

SOmething that occurs to me about the bounce you are seeing - bounce is based on detection levels.  The defender gets the bonus of any sound detector/radar.  You can improve your detection level before you go in by reconning the base with a couple of squadrons for a couple of days before the sweep/bombing raid.  You will still find you get bounced at the start, but after a couple of rounds you should see the battle even out and even get the bounce towards the end.  If you already are reconning......well then things are buggered!

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RE: it goes on... - 2/9/2009 11:33:31 PM   
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Hi , no update tonight? 

I am utterly dissapointed!




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RE: it goes on... - 2/10/2009 4:57:36 AM   
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Really low detection=bounce? Well I guess that might be why my sweeps on bases like Manila and Singapore saw no bounces, since they have no detection right now, and I have been reconning constantly.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/10/2009 7:31:47 AM   
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Hi , no update tonight? 

I am utterly dissapointed!






Hi Zond

Once in a while thereīs a life other than WITP too Two turns done yesterday evening, update soon, werenīt nice turns.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/10/2009 7:33:24 AM   
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Hi Castor

SOmething that occurs to me about the bounce you are seeing - bounce is based on detection levels.  The defender gets the bonus of any sound detector/radar.  You can improve your detection level before you go in by reconning the base with a couple of squadrons for a couple of days before the sweep/bombing raid.  You will still find you get bounced at the start, but after a couple of rounds you should see the battle even out and even get the bounce towards the end.  If you already are reconning......well then things are buggered!



Hi

Recon unfortunately never helped me. Itīs good for increasing bombing accuracy and nukes of course but Iīve never experienced a difference in a2a. I know that radar does make the difference though. And I donīt have radar while the Allied cover the whole map with their radar sets and AWACS.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/10/2009 12:09:09 PM   
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Ok, here we go. Two depressing days...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/02/42

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TF 1057 encounters mine field at Wyndham (30,86)

Allied Ships
MSW Maryborough
MSW Goulburn
MSW Burnie
MSW Poole
MSW Bundaberg

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 64
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 66

Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
PB2Y Coronado x 6
B-17E Fortress x 127
LB-30 Liberator x 33
B-24D Liberator x 91

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed, 49 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 13 destroyed, 41 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
PB2Y Coronado: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 7 destroyed, 113 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 4 destroyed, 25 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 15 destroyed, 61 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
150 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 54

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 12000 feet

We have 290 undamaged fighters at Koepang set to 90% Cap. This means 44,83% engage the enemy bombers. Most of the bombers turn back, only very few are lost and 40 bombers dropping their bombs are enough to kill as many fighters on the ground as we take down enemy bombers. I donīt want to see all my fighters engaging the enemy but having 55%+ all the time sitting on the ground waiting to get bombed is a joke. Unfortunately this game doesnīt know something like fighter took off but wasnīt able to engage the enemy. Would still be better than sitting on the ground, rowed up and bombed.

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 153


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
336 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 57

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 208
B5N Kate x 16
G3M Nell x 53
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 78

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 139
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 23


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 32

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 96
Wellington III x 74

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 22 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 5 destroyed, 23 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 26 destroyed, 44 damaged
Wellington III: 6 destroyed, 60 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 41

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet

the British attack in the afternoon, the Wellingtons are as hard to down as a B-17. What a depressing day. Miller told me he ordered a 200+ fighter sweep from Lautern to go in first but weather kept them from flying.




The Blenheim are absolutely obsolete and will soon be faced out, Iīm sure about that. Then it would have been a 1:1 in bombers for fighters lost. Tomorrow will 100% sure see a follow on attack by hundreds of Allied bombers again and then the kill rate will got up to 3:1, 4:1 or 5:1 in favour of the bombers.

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Ground combat at 47,28

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73620 troops, 747 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1422

Defending force 3185 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 76

Japanese max assault: 1411 - adjusted assault: 2186

Allied max defense: 55 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 2186 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2495 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

the only positive today, the Hopei militia division surrendered North of Sian and thereīs no enemy resistance left in Northern China than Sian and this base will fall soon. But that doesnīt help me when Allied 4Es will soon rule the area up to Borneo and central Java...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14237 troops, 459 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2939

Defending force 92730 troops, 204 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3125



Allied ground losses:
262 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8418 troops, 288 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1531

Defending force 26698 troops, 194 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 389



Allied ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16035 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3438

Defending force 222430 troops, 794 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5807






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RE: it goes on... - 2/10/2009 12:41:47 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/03/42

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TF 1040 encounters mine field at Koepang (28,77)

Allied Ships
PT PT-83, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Type 93 mine kills a PT, the rest of the PT squadron will now paddle back to Lautern as they are out of fuel...

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 66
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 23
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 25

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 148
P-38G Lightning x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 17 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 22 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 61 destroyed, 26 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

a totally ridicoulos result. Why? Not because the overall kill rate is off but the kill rates of the different combatants. Well, the Oscar holds his own, killing a Warhawk and damaging 7 more for 1 Oscar killed. The Tojo lost 11:1 against the Warhawks , this was totally crazy and again proves that the Tojo seems to be that bad that it canīt be used at all in Nikmod as soon as enemy fighters are near. Donīt forget that my pilots are still in the 80 exp range and the Warhawks at 60 (according to info from Paul). The Zero was more or less unbeatable and killed the Warhawks 8:1 or better. Well, the first appearance of the Lightning was depressing also, kill rate was 7:1 in favour of the Lightning. With the given aircraft stats, Nikmod seems to be producing some radical results.


The most depressing fact is really the underperformance of the Tojo in Nikmod. The problem about it is the totally LOW maneuveribility, itīs performing like a light bomber but not like a fighter. And this will put us in big problems because what can I do now? Forget about hundreds of IJA fighters because they are 100% crap? I could also use Nates, against Allied figthers, wouldnīt make much difference. And all this when my Tojos are flown by ELITE pilots. Ridicoulos. And the Tony comes in in 9/43, by then the whole SRA will be lost already, I guess the same goes for the war by then as I wonīt be able to ship out oil by then.

The Tojo can only be used outside of Allied fighter range it seems, so as it stands now this would mean using it NORTH of Kendari only! Waiting for the bombers now...


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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 3
PB2Y Coronado x 5
B-17E Fortress x 79
LB-30 Liberator x 11
B-24D Liberator x 69

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 30 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 10 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
PB2Y Coronado: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 19 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 9 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 30 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 101

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 12000 feet

and here they come. Yesterday we damaged nearly 100% of the 4Es and today there are still 160 coming from Derby... Op losses yesterday and today? Nothing more to say...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 147


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet

Allied bombers donīt even suffer when they fly day after day at MAX range.

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 52
Wellington III x 36


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

wonder why the British didnīt attack Koepang. They could have additionally destroyed a couple of dozen fighters on the ground, but Iīve lost enough anyway...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 208
B5N Kate x 16
G3M Nell x 54
Ki-27 Nate x 32
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 81

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 98
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 70th Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3
Ki-49 Helen x 28

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on 53rd Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 6
Ki-49 Helen x 30

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 42
SBD Dauntless x 48


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 4 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported

Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
21 x Albacore bombing at 10000 feet

Japanese flak in this version of Nikmod isnīt any more dangerous (when it comes down to kills) than in stock it seems. Dili should be a deadly place for low bombing aircraft...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14244 troops, 459 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2937

Defending force 92227 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3110



Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8432 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1531

Defending force 26383 troops, 191 guns, 217 vehicles, Assault Value = 382



Allied ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16056 troops, 200 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3440

Defending force 222294 troops, 790 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5807



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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 48825 troops, 632 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 1292

Defending force 76502 troops, 537 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1552


Japanese ground losses:
347 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied bombardments will be enough to wear down our troops. Wonder how the enemy gets enough supply over 120 miles of trails for this Army.


and here are th losses for today:



whereas even Chinese base forces at this date are enough to launch 100% of the Allied fighters on Cap and having ENGAGE them my strikes, we are stuck with 45% at best and this always means that we will lose a couple of times more ac than the enemy. And thereīs nothing I can do about that, Japanese fighters just donīt take off and 55% are always staying on the ground to get bombed. And of course 130 fighters in the air are far from sufficient to scare the Allied when your opponent knows that 130 fighters wouldnīt take down more than 40 Allied bombers anyway.

IMO the kill rate of Japanese fighters vs Allied bombers isnīt that bad or totally off, for 4 attacking fighters you get one bomber shot down. I donīt know how that looked like in real life but it seems reasonable for me. The overall fighter kill rate was ok IMO, the kill rates of the involved combatants was totally off, I doubt a 80+ exp Tojo sentai shouldnīt lose 22:2 against Warhawks with 60 exp pilots. The biggest issue I have are the fighters that are just sitting on the ground. I donīt know how the historical Cap levels that engaged incoming strikes looked like, 40 or 45% ENGAGING the enemy doesnīt sound strange to me, but I wonder if 55 - 60% wasnīt even taking off. I donīt know, in every case, this makes my defenses impossible and Miller can cheer about hundreds of undamaged fighters on the ground for the next 14 months. Then Japanese base forces will receive 40 Type 13 radar sets / month and this should get more ac in the air. I only doubt that the campaign will last that long. Iīm pretty sure the game will see a surrender of my forces earlier than 1/44. Iīm now looking forward to a fighter that comes in in mid 43 at best - the Tony - so this again reflects my desperate situation at the moment.








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RE: it goes on... - 2/11/2009 1:46:01 AM   
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Rubbish! Pure myth

After all these turns, hope you have some kind of punch bag near the computer? And it's not going to get any nicer.

Why for the love of God you decided to play this mod? Were you obliged to play it (replay match) or you voluntereed?

Regarding these constant attacks on Koepang, wouldn't it be better to LRCAP it from near by bases? Can you post some screenshots (SRA, China & India situation)?

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RE: it goes on... - 2/11/2009 8:34:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy
Once in a while thereīs a life other than WITP too


Rubbish! Pure myth

After all these turns, hope you have some kind of punch bag near the computer? And it's not going to get any nicer.

Why for the love of God you decided to play this mod? Were you obliged to play it (replay match) or you voluntereed?

Regarding these constant attacks on Koepang, wouldn't it be better to LRCAP it from near by bases? Can you post some screenshots (SRA, China & India situation)?



no, I came up with the idea to play NM again! There are some problems with the mod IMO but the overall situation is still better than playing stock. Iīve never tried CHS or RHS, I had BigB games and stock campaigns going.

some things that Iīm not happy about arenīt related to the mod as this is just how the game engine works, the mod increases the defficiences of the engine in some cases though. For example: Japanese fighters vs Allied bombers is far more realistic than stock but of course this then means you lose far more Japanese fighters on the ground because far more Allied bombers get through. The performance of the Tojo, well thatīs only a mod thing...

The only real issue I have is the fact that normally 55% of my undamaged fighters sit on the ground and get torched.

I could LRCAP Koepang from Waingapu (sp?), the base three hexes North of it or from Maumere, 5 hexes North. Waingapu is a level 2 airfield at the moment so I could set 100 fighters on LRCAP, would mean perhaps 25-35 over Koepang but that wouldnīt be anything else than annoying for Miller. A 200 4E attack every third or fourth day is enough to keep the base closed and he could fly a 150 fighter sweep from Lautern before every attack so it wouldnīt really hurt him I guess. But I have had this in mind too.

I wasnīt able to do a turn yesterday (which is quite a rare occassion ) but I will do some screenshots today and will post them tomorrow.


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RE: it goes on... - 2/12/2009 10:58:49 AM   
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sry Zond, forgot to take the screenshots from the areas, hopefully I donīt forget it again when I will come back home from work today... playing at home, mostly doing the AAR at work...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/04/42

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 162


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 68

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet

my flak isnīt doing anything at Dili it seems. Thinking about moving in one or two AA rgts...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 63
Wellington III x 41


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
Wellington III: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

it should be costly to attack this base. But not even flying day after day at max range is effecting the Allied bombers in Nikmod...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 208
B5N Kate x 16
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 81

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 103
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Derby , at 24,85

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 30
G4M1 Betty x 50

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 26000 feet

Iīve moved 200 Betties/Nells to Maumere to attack the uncapped Derby. This is the base where 200+ 4Es are coming from and all were sitting at the base today. Well, 120+ bombers failed to locate the base but 80 bombers with 80+ exp crews dropped their bombs - to achieve two hits on the runway that do nothing...

In return, 5 bombers are lost to ops... Yes! We do suffer from flying 12 hexes! The fact that we attack a target at safe height and with elite crews doesnīt help the Japanese at all. Fly one hex and lose a couple of bombers, thatīs how it looks like... ridicoulos.

And I canīt go in lower as even at 21.000 ft, the Allied flak would take down two dozen of my bombers... minimum...

itīs really ridicoulos. Miller doesnīt have to even think about Capping his bases as he knows that his flak is so strong I canīt afford to attack his bases below 26.000!!!!!!! ft...


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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 31


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 12th NLF , at 36,30


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 21
SB-2c x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 38
SBD Dauntless x 43
P-40E Warhawk x 15


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14204 troops, 459 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2944

Defending force 91765 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3090



Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported

guess the first deliberate attack will be ordered in one or two weeks...


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8392 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1528

Defending force 25885 troops, 187 guns, 215 vehicles, Assault Value = 380



Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16032 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3435

Defending force 222361 troops, 789 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5818




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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/05/42

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TF 1040 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)

Allied Ships
PT PT-81, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

the best way to kill Allied PTs stays laying sub laid mines at Lautern...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 120
B5N Kate x 16
G4M1 Betty x 8
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 82

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 69
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 12th NLF , at 36,30


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 16
SB-2c x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 57th Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 33
Ki-21 Sally x 9
Ki-49 Helen x 35

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Yunan , at 38,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
Ki-21 Sally x 53
Ki-49 Helen x 135
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed
IL-4c: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 16000 feet

while I at least understand the sh*tty hit rate of my Betties from 26.000ft yesterday, those Helens are attacking at normal range, dropping 4 bombs each and we do no damage at all again. 4 ac are destroyed on the ground and we also lose 4 bomber... ridicoulos... base is reconned daily...

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Sub attack near Wyndham at 30,86

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
MSW Burnie
MSW Maryborough
MSW Goulburn
MSW Poole
MSW Bundaberg

lol, torps failed to detonate. A rare occassion for IJN torps. But Iīm happy the sub didnīt get sunk in return...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14214 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2943

Defending force 91180 troops, 178 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3070



Allied ground losses:
105 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8376 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1528

Defending force 25744 troops, 187 guns, 215 vehicles, Assault Value = 375



Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16030 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3434

Defending force 222330 troops, 794 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5823



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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 53236 troops, 714 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 1298

Defending force 75075 troops, 513 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1504

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied max assault: 1275 - adjusted assault: 678

Japanese max defense: 1293 - adjusted defense: 935

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
1774 casualties reported
Guns lost 39

Allied ground losses:
1092 casualties reported
Guns lost 41
Vehicles lost 10

first deliberate attack and the result is a joke. Remember my shock attack? Caused 300 losses within the Allied and 4.000+ within my units. Now the Allied attack and we suffer more casualties and get a ridicoulosly low adjusted av even though we are defending with the multiplier of a wooden hex. Doesnīt look like it would be a problem for the Allied to supply those troops over the trails coming from Lautern.

And hereīs the news on the strategic level. Miller is going to attack New Caledonia within the next turns...







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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/06/42

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ASW attack at 66,119

Japanese Ships
SS I-33, hits 10, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD O'Brien
DD Russell
DD Mustin
DD Hammann
DD Anderson
DD Hughes
DD Sims
DD Farenholt
DD Aaron Ward
DD Monssen
DD Grayson
DD Gwin

A dozen destroyers, this probably is the escort of an Allied CV TF... the sub sinks...


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dili at 31,77

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Abukuma
DD Maikaze
DD Nowaki
DD Asashio
DD Yamagumo
DD Asagumo
DD Arare
DD Kasumi
DD Shigure
DD Kawakaze
DD Satsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minekaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-79
PT PT-82
PT PT-84
PT PT-117, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

fast transport TF meets PTs at Dili, not much action but one salvo kills a PT... "click" another dozen pops up...

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TF 1002 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)

Allied Ships
PT PT-79, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

returning home, PT-79 runs on a sub laid mine...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 78
Wellington III x 42


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Wellington III: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
468 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

Miller can even attack at 6.000ft and doesnīt suffer at all... op losses donīt exist...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 145
B5N Kate x 16
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 82

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 10
Runway hits 50

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 23


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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and now something starts that just made me shake my head during the replay... itīs more or less a joke IMO...

Day Air attack on TF at 66,117

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 13

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 45
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 157

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 13 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 damaged

this is the beginning of a series of stupid split up strikes against half a dozen spotted TFs that are moving towards Noumea. Miller comes in with only a few TFs, this doesnīt stop the engine from sending sh*tty looking strikes against the incoming convoys.

But what is really amazing me is the number of Allied fighters on Cap. Man, thatīs a joke Paul. 201 Allied fighters? On what carriers? CV Wasp, CV Enterprise? A CVL? 1 or 2 CVEs? (CVE Long Island was spotted). We have identified 3 VF, 2 British squadrons and 2 USMC squadrons. For me this pretty much looks like a US CV TF loaded up with only or in the best case with mostly fighters. There is no house rule against this, but hey, using fighter CV TFs only is mmmmm....

Two US CVs are sunk, one was heavily damaged with three torps. All British CVs were heavily damaged not long ago, all taking at least 4x800kg AP bombs. So in fact I had more or less "nothing to fear about". If you take a couple of CVs/CVLs/CVEs and you load them up with fighters only you can of course drive around with more fighters than you would have using 5 US fleet carriers (max stacking limit per hex). With 36 fighters each, this would bring you up to 180 fighters, but this TF has 201 fighters on Cap with far less than 5 US fleet carriers.

I have to say that I do find such a tactic strange, but hey, this of course opens up a lot of possibilities for me also. Whatīs good for the goose... Why not loading up KB with fighters only and place it at Koepang with 300 land based fighters? Even with the crappy Cap rates I get this would mean 350+ fighters on Cap and this would wreck all incoming strikes for sure. But itīs a more than strange thing to repeat myself.

When the spotted squadrons are full strenght than this would bring the total number of fighters to around 220, would they be set to 90% (which I expect) then there would be 198 in the air, so weīre not far away from those numbers. Unfortunately an Allied ability only, even in 42.

Paul did not break any house rule of course as such a rule didnīt exist.


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Day Air attack on TF at 66,117

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 14

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 45
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 157

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 damaged



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Day Air attack on TF at 66,117

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
G3M Nell x 13

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 45
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 157

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 21 destroyed
G3M Nell: 13 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire: 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed, 25 damaged



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Day Air attack on TF at 66,117

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 45
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 152

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 damaged



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Day Air attack on TF at 66,117

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G3M Nell x 29
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 45
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 152

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 15 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Seafire: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 8 damaged



Due to the high morale, the stupid split up strikes and the appearance of a couple of Allied "fighter CVs" we lose nearly 100 high exp IJN pilots! What a great day! In this game you donīt have to just think about what numbers of CVs your opponent can send in, but also "what aircraft are on those CVs"... In this case I have paid for it. Normally, there shouldnīt have been a bigger Cap than perhaps 60-90 Allied fighters (depending on the Cap settings) and thatīs why I even moved in my bombers and Zeros. Of course with the composition of my strikes, even then all my ac would have been shot down.

Noumea has no value for me, the only reason I took it is to get a shot at an upcoming invasion with my airforce but this of course turned out to be a total drawback today.

Not to forget the fact that a dozen Kinfisher flew the obligate "recon before the Allied BBs nuke a base". So I also expect to see the absolutely stupid nuke due to an even more stupid detection level routine tomorrow. Funny game...

Also here, Paul isnīt doing something forbidden, there is no hr against using those float planes to raise the detection level high enough to enable nukes all the time.





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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 16
B-24D Liberator x 36


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported

Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

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Sub attack near Derby at 24,85

Japanese Ships
SS I-124, hits 13, heavy damage

Allied Ships
MSW Kapunda, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Shepparton
MSW Latrobe
MSW Katoomba
MSW Launceton
MSW Gympie

mine laying sub stayed in the port during the day instead of going in and out full speed during the night. Please fix that again as it was broken with some patch. The MSW is dead, the sub has a small chance to survive...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14230 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2612

Defending force 90922 troops, 167 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3064



Allied ground losses:
180 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8436 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1530

Defending force 25399 troops, 187 guns, 213 vehicles, Assault Value = 371



Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16024 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3436

Defending force 222226 troops, 792 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5824



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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6940 troops, 207 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1158

Defending force 72147 troops, 466 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1430


Japanese ground losses:
495 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

bombardments alone will be enough to kill off my units...

With Noumea lost in a couple of days the Allied will score 1400 points for the base and this will bring the victory point ratio back to around 5:1 again. But that will mean that the Allied will still be far away from the 3.99:1 to avoid the Japanese auto victory. And with Sianīs 100.000 troops surrendering within this year I will score 700-800 points for that alone.

Iīm not beaten yet, with the recent developments and "tactics" I will just adopt mine also and am already planning something BIG. Stay tuned...









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RE: it goes on... - 2/12/2009 5:54:17 PM   
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Where's KB... it would be lovely to strike fighter based CV tf parked outside Noumea.

You are just wasting pilots and planes with these small scale attacks here and there. Mass everything that floats and flys and strike hard in one place. After all, when hordes of Thunderbolts, Lightnings, Corsairs and Hellcats join the party it's game over. Strike hard now while you still have some chance to inflict significant damage!

What are other benefits of this mod? What about Jack and George? Availability, performance?


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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 9:18:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Zond

Where's KB... it would be lovely to strike fighter based CV tf parked outside Noumea.

You are just wasting pilots and planes with these small scale attacks here and there. Mass everything that floats and flys and strike hard in one place. After all, when hordes of Thunderbolts, Lightnings, Corsairs and Hellcats join the party it's game over. Strike hard now while you still have some chance to inflict significant damage!

What are other benefits of this mod? What about Jack and George? Availability, performance?




I donīt want to engage a US CV TF with KB, the "leakers" (which would be 80% of the bombers ) would kill KB in no time. I was wrong about the loadout of the US CVs, see more in my next post - I proved to be a dork once again.

The Jack? lol, early 44. The George? lol, early 44. No idea how they will perform though, I doubt I will make it to early 44, honestly. The only ac I can look forward to is the Tony at the moment and it will be available in..... about 10 monts...


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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 10:31:44 AM   
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I stated in my last email to Paul: "interesting number of fighters for the low number of undamaged CVs you have" and he felt that I thought he would have used a fighter death star and therefor he gave me info about his CV TF composition. Would have been enough if he would have said that he did not swap out his bombers with fighters, he shouldnīt have give me so much info. Anyway, I have withdrawn all my aircraft before this info.

See below what Miller brought. This was somewhat shocking as Iīve thought the Allied carrier force has been trashed with the recent events. Well, thatīs the problem with doing multiple turns every day, as you think you killed a carrier "yesterday" but actually itīs months ago already in game time. Proved to be an idiot for thinking that Miller would use what I called a "strange" tactic. Sorry for that!



Hornet 36, Yorktown 36, Lexington 36, Wasp 30, 2 CVE's 40 = 178 F4F

1 Brit CV and 1 CVL = 47 Seafire.

The only extra fighters at he expense of DB/TB is 16 Seafire on the CVL Hermes......which I doubt would have made any difference at all.




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/07/42

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ASW attack near Palembang at 20,55

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze
DD Hokaze
DD Yukaze
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
SS S-43, hits 12, on fire, heavy damage

After losing a sub yesterday we kill one also today...

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TF 1057 encounters mine field at Wyndham (30,86)

Allied Ships
MSW Maryborough
MSW Goulburn
MSW Burnie
MSW Poole
MSW Bundaberg

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 20
B-26B Marauder x 47


Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 2 destroyed, 27 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
162 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 50

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 177


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
486 casualties reported

Port hits 8
Port supply hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 76
Wellington III x 40


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
Wellington III: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported

Port hits 2
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 174
B5N Kate x 16
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 82

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 113
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 24


No Allied losses

Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 70th Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 8
Ki-49 Helen x 34

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14240 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2613

Defending force 90498 troops, 160 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3057



Allied ground losses:
227 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8396 troops, 287 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1531

Defending force 25242 troops, 186 guns, 211 vehicles, Assault Value = 366



Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16003 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3435

Defending force 222114 troops, 787 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5840



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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49719 troops, 646 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 1169

Defending force 70721 troops, 447 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1404


Japanese ground losses:
773 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

unbelievable how much damage a couple US art rgts do within my INF units! Yes, inf units, thereīs no HQ unit in the lead. Iīm only used to such high losses if a HQ or support unit is in the lead of the stack. The damage done is even more surprising as the attacker has to be supplied over 120 miles of trails, but Iīm repeating myself.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 10:42:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy
The Jack? lol, early 44. The George? lol, early 44. No idea how they will perform though, I doubt I will make it to early 44, honestly. The only ac I can look forward to is the Tony at the moment and it will be available in..... about 10 monts...


So, basically, this is a late war mod, optimized for Japan? I think that i would rather play vanilla Witp, it made wonders for Pauk and Honda

When are Shinden and Reppu due to arrive, springe 1953? If you can wait a little more after that F-4J kicks into action. Smashing!

What's your evil and devious plan about? Lemme hear it.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/08/42

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Naval bombardment of Noumea, at 68,113 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Nashville
CL Newcastle
CL Glasgow
BB West Virginia
BB Arizona, Shell hits 4
BB California
BB Tennessee
BB New Mexico

Japanese ground losses:
782 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 55
Port hits 36
Port supply hits 6

the dozen Kingfishers did their job, not much left of the base facilities. With only two base forces there, there is at least something left after this bombardment.

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Naval bombardment of Noumea, at 68,113

Allied Ships
CL Phoenix
CL Birmingham
CL Mauritius
CA Hawkins
CA Canberra
BB Valiant
BB Warspite
BB Oklahoma
BB Maryland

Japanese ground losses:
701 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 72
Port hits 28
Port supply hits 8

another nuke but this time the base forceīs CD guns were not 100% damaged/destroyed like in the other pre invasion bombardments...

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Coastal Guns at Noumea, 68,113, firing at TF 1050
TF 1050 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 68,113


669 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AK Ngow Hok
AK Needwood, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 3
DD Litchfield
AK Empire Barracuda
AK Masaya, Shell hits 1, on fire
AK Coast Trader
DD Meade, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Welles, Shell hits 1
DD Vampire
AK Fairfield City
AK Tennessean, Shell hits 1
AK Puerto Rican, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Vendetta, Shell hits 6, on fire
CL Concord, Shell hits 5
AK Delawarean, Shell hits 1
DD Talbot

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
3529 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

... and this means the CD is this time shooting at the invasion. The ships arenīt hit hard but the enemy suffers a lot of disabled squads during the landing. Wonīt make a difference though, it seems thereīs a huge Army landing at New Caledonia.

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Coastal Guns at Noumea, 68,113, firing at TF 1050
TF 1050 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 68,113


309 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1
AK Mabella, Shell hits 1
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 13
AK Maliko
AK Makua, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Concord
AK Montgomery City
AK Texan
AK Pennsylvanian
DD Meade
AK Minnesotan, Shell hits 1
AK Mexican, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Welles

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2632 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

perhaps we will be able to sink a couple of ships but we have no chance to hold the base...

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Coastal Guns at Noumea, 68,113, firing at TF 1058
TF 1058 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 68,113


540 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Barker
AK Hosang, Shell hits 1
DD Voyager
DD Edsall
DD Bancroft
AK Empire Rennie
AK Empire Foam
AK Empire Voice, Shell hits 1
CL Detroit, Shell hits 6
AK Empire Lynx, Shell hits 1, on fire
CL Raleigh
AK William Williams, Shell hits 1
DD Caldwell, Shell hits 3, on fire
AK Admiral Williams, Shell hits 1
AK Admiral Nulton, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Donald McKay, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
4016 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

the biggest problem is that the attacker usually nearly suffers no dead at all, while the defender usually suffers more dead during an attack. So in this case, all that happens is that the landing divisions will need some weeks to recover their disabled squads.

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Day Air attack on Yunan , at 38,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 52
Ki-21 Sally x 41
Ki-49 Helen x 122
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 17 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 6 destroyed
IL-4c: 6 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 111

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

this time we achieve a better hit rate and torch some Chinese bombers on the ground....

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 128


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported

Port hits 6
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet

I need more flak at Dili, those strikes just have to become more costly... I canīt rely on the nearly not existing op loss rate of the Allied bomber fleet...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 84
Wellington III x 45


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Wellington III: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 193
B5N Kate x 16
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 82

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 60
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Noumea , at 68,113


Allied aircraft
OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 9


Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 6 damaged

the Kingfishers keep flying over Noumea so I guess we will see more bombardments...

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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 42
SBD Dauntless x 45
P-40E Warhawk x 25


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 3 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged

Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

at least some divebombers were taken down...

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Day Air attack on Noumea , at 68,113


Allied aircraft
OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 5


Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

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Day Air attack on Noumea , at 68,113


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10
SBD Dauntless x 138
TBF Avenger x 60


Allied aircraft losses
Albacore: 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 19 damaged
TBF Avenger: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 8
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

Miller told me he hopes that thereīs no doubt anymore about the CV loadout after this turn. Well, there was no doubt after last turn anymore as I trust his words.




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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14218 troops, 457 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2606

Defending force 90081 troops, 152 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3051



Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8420 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1531

Defending force 24904 troops, 181 guns, 209 vehicles, Assault Value = 362



Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16000 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3440

Defending force 221805 troops, 785 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5827



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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 50024 troops, 653 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 1175

Defending force 68264 troops, 421 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1371


Japanese ground losses:
502 casualties reported
Guns lost 25





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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 11:25:25 AM   
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quote:

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The Jack? lol, early 44. The George? lol, early 44. No idea how they will perform though, I doubt I will make it to early 44, honestly. The only ac I can look forward to is the Tony at the moment and it will be available in..... about 10 monts...


So, basically, this is a late war mod, optimized for Japan? I think that i would rather play vanilla Witp, it made wonders for Pauk and Honda

When are Shinden and Reppu due to arrive, springe 1953? If you can wait a little more after that F-4J kicks into action. Smashing!

What's your evil and devious plan about? Lemme hear it.



Guess when I get fighters with decent stats there wonīt anything I can do with them anymore. The IJNAF will get the Zeke in mid 43, but thatīs no improvement over the A6M2, not much faster, less maneuverable, half the range but armor and a 7,7mm MG (that canīt hurt any Allied aircraft) is replaced with a 12,7mm MG.

No details about my evil plan yet. Miller asked me yesterday why Iīm reconning Northern Australia and if I would be up to a belated invasion. Lol, Iīve told him I plan to land at two bases or even three, all covered by KB that will be equipped with missile armed Zekes to take on the unescorted Allied bombers. To start off my attack, my long range Betty bombers will torch a hundred 4Es on the ground just like theyīve done it recently from 26.000ft. The Aussies will be forced to surrender, then I will take back Timor and New Caledonia of course.

It will be a big operation and as soon as my troops are ordered to attack I will give more info on it.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 11:33:41 AM   
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On Zondīs special request, some screenshots. Starting with the "world" map. As you can see, we took nearly all of India, only Karachi is left and will never be attacked. Perhaps at some stage of the war, I could attack Ceylon, or the troops there just starve to dead like the Allied troops did at Port Moresby.

Timor is the most important area of the Allied advance at the moment but the Allied troops are bogged down at Dili now. With the Allied carriers near New Caledonia at the moment I donīt fear a shipborne invasion in this area the next weeks. New Caledonia gives Miller some important points but Iīm still ahead and it will be more than difficult to avoid a Japanese autovictory in 6 weeks.

China is more or less out of the war but there are still hundreds of thousands Japanese troops, so we will see what will happen the next 6 months.




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Next one is China. Sian is about to fall, Iīve got 6.000+ assault points in that area. Then we will have to decide what else will happen in China. This will depend a lot on the progress the Allied will be able to make into the SRA. When the Allied manage to advance (thereīs no doubt they will, the question is only at what costs) then I will have to take on RUSSIA! To be able to take on Russia I will have to knock out the Chinese Army at Kweiyang and that will be a bloody affair. There are nearly 6000 assault points, level 9 forts and itīs a wooden hex. This means trouble, but Iīm sure that the Chinese supply situation is nearing a desperate situation. Flanking Kweiyang wonīt be a real option, North and South are wooden hexes, West of it is a mountaineous hex, so movement will take forever and supply of the troops would be a problem. We will see. In any case, next target is Sian, I donīt expect much of a problem to kill off those 100.000 starved Chinese troops. Level 9 forts will help them though.






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Timor area. The enemy advance is stuck at Dili, I doubt Miller will try to move in more divisions from Lautern as this would make a Japanese counter attack with 5 or 6 divisions on Lautern possible. Even if the enemy bombers from Northern Australia would be able to cause trouble, I doubt they would be able to stop an invasion. No way...

The focus at the moment is down South at New Caledonia but thatīs an unimportant area for me, itīs only worth a lot of points but thatīs it. Miller will meet heavier resistance when he will attack the Solomons for example. The further North he will get the more I will throw in, but thatīs nothing unusual...




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Interesting maps.

Aren't there some Allied troops left in Manilla and Delhi ?  Also, IIRC Manilla is worth a lot of points for the Allies, you could score a lot there before the end of the year.  Not that you're at risk of going under the 4:1 ratio...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/09/42

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Coastal Guns at Noumea, 68,113, firing at TF 1050
TF 1050 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 68,113


467 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 5
AK Maliko, Shell hits 2, on fire
AK Makua, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Welles, Shell hits 1
AK Oregonian, Shell hits 1, on fire
AK Louisianan, Shell hits 2
DD Fox, Shell hits 1, on fire
AK Honolulan, Shell hits 2, on fire
AK Georgian, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1481 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


the enemy TFs are still unloading, the CD is still firing back, which is absolutely amazing. Damage done to the ships is little though but nearly 1.500 disabled troops.

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Coastal Guns at Noumea, 68,113, firing at TF 1058
TF 1058 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 68,113


727 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Bancroft, Shell hits 1
CA Australia
AK Tantalus, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Voyager
AK Empire Bardolph, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Barker, Shell hits 4
CL Raleigh
AK Empire Foam
AK Empire Steelhead, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Edsall, Shell hits 1
AK Empire Waterhen, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Shell hits 6
AK Vincent, Shell hits 4, on fire
AK Admiral Chase, Shell hits 1
AK San Simeon, Shell hits 1
AK Mormaclark, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2506 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

two more AKs heavily hit, I hope that in the end half a dozen ships will be lost. Would mean 6 AKs sunk for the price of my troops lost and 90 high exp IJN pilots shot down.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dili at 31,77

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Myoko
CA Suzuya
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
PT PT-82
PT PT-84

bombardment TF meets PTs at Dili as Miller probably tried to engage my incoming barges...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dili at 31,77

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Myoko
CA Suzuya
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
PT PT-82, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
PT PT-84, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

another round, the PTs are surprised, one is sunk immediately, the other one launches torps but misses and is sunk also. "Click" a dozen more will pop up at Lautern today...

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Naval bombardment of Dili, at 31,77

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CA Myoko
CA Maya
CA Atago


Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

more than lol...

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Naval bombardment of Noumea, at 68,113

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City
CA Chicago
CA Chester
CA Houston
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland
BB South Dakota
BB Washington

Japanese ground losses:
680 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 36
Port hits 13
Port supply hits 3

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ASW attack at 27,71

Japanese Ships
ML Niizaki
ML Saishu
ML Ishizaki
ML Hoko
ML Hirashima
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo
ML Okinoshima

Allied Ships
SS S-31, hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

my big mine laying TF stumbles across a S-class sub. The sub is sunk by a couple of Type 95 hits and near misses... One S-class sub sunk yesterday, one today. Good days...


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TF 1050 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 68,113



Allied ground losses:
150 casualties reported

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TF 1058 troops unloading over beach at Noumea, 68,113



Allied ground losses:
2171 casualties reported

it took the Allied a long time again to unload all those troops. Two things I donīt understand: a) why on earth is he bringing an Army big enough to be able to take Tokyo and b) why didnīt he land with a small force at a base North of Noumea, take this base and unload his huge army at the friendly port a turn later?

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Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet

I have more and more shredded daitais and therefore I have to open a flight school at Soerabaja where I will base medium trained pilots. Near enough to the Timor front to fly them to their bases immediately if something happens.

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 183
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 85

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 112

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Noumea , at 68,113


Allied aircraft
OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 2


Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on Noumea , at 68,113


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 1


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 3
A-20B Boston x 14


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Noumea , at 68,113


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 1


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 damaged


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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14237 troops, 459 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3093

Defending force 89919 troops, 151 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3045



Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8416 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1532

Defending force 24789 troops, 180 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 361



Allied ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16000 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3443

Defending force 221870 troops, 784 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5834

Allied assault value is still going up each turn, this means the Allied are far from starving here. Looks like the Allied units are fully supplied...

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Ground combat at Noumea

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50503 troops, 474 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1316

Defending force 12760 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 102

Allied max assault: 827 - adjusted assault: 1005

Japanese max defense: 69 - adjusted defense: 127

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied forces CAPTURE Noumea base !!!


Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
365 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

there was no doubt that the base will fall easily even while not knowing what exactly the Allied have brought. As it turned out this turn, there were no less than 5 divisions! Assault points wise, the landing did cost the Allied one division in disabled squads. Noumea is temperate zone and thereīs a level 6 port, level 4 airfield so many squads will be combat ready soon, I expect the troops to return to Australia though. With the big port, most of the Allied AKs that were hit during the landing will probably make it, so far only one was reported sunk. The invasion of New Caledonia was a rather unsuccesful attempt to hurt the Allied, my stupid attack on the enemy CVs only hurts me.

We will be able to fly out enough troops from our three units that all three will be built up to full strenght soon again.







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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 12:45:54 PM   
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Interesting maps.

Aren't there some Allied troops left in Manilla and Delhi ?  Also, IIRC Manilla is worth a lot of points for the Allies, you could score a lot there before the end of the year.  Not that you're at risk of going under the 4:1 ratio...


oh yes, sorry, forgot about the Allied troops at Manila, but they are only acting as training targets. Delhi was cleared a couple of weeks ago, it fell easily to my TK rgts. "Only" Karachi left in India and this is a nogo for me. The Allied will build up there, accumulating thousands of assault points there. At some point they will either try to break out or a big invasion will be going out of the town to land troops somewhere further South. With Karachi still Allied, Miller gets lots and lots of ships as reinforcement also, as soon as a ship shows up there it leaves port, probably heading to Australia. This made me think about attacking Ceylon soon, I could then base a couple of CVEs at Colombo to interdict the shipping lanes going South from Karachi. But for the moment, there are more important things to do.

To be honest, I donīt care much about the autovictory. Even if I achieve autovictory, the probably unstoppable attack into the SRA is winning the war for the Allied sooner than real life, so I would say this would then be a decisive Allied victory, no matter how many points I have. In any case, taking Manila just to score an autovictory is no option for me at the moment. And is it looks now, I will still score the autovictory in 6 weeks, only at a somewhat reduced ratio than two days ago.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 12:56:22 PM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/10/42

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TF 1042 encounters mine field at Derby (24,85)

Allied Ships
MSW Shepparton
MSW Latrobe

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Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 196
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 116

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 154
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

At Manila, there are still some 30.000 Allied troops starving to death. Noumea is worth the same amount of victory points for the Allied like Manila, for the loss of Noumea I would have to either take Manila (I wonīt) or to score 5.500 points for something else if I want to keep up the 4:1+ ratio.

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
A-20B Boston x 25


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 53rd Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 9
Ki-49 Helen x 34

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 57th Chinese Corps, at 47,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 3
Ki-49 Helen x 13

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

only training runs today and the a2g attacks at Sian...

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14248 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3900

Defending force 89823 troops, 140 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3044



Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Will order my troops to deliberate attack in two or three turns. Then we will see ongoing attacks until the base will surrender...

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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8430 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1527

Defending force 24517 troops, 173 guns, 206 vehicles, Assault Value = 360



Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16009 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3441

Defending force 221763 troops, 778 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5838



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Ground combat at Dili

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 64611 troops, 810 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 1581

Defending force 70724 troops, 407 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1389


Japanese ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Guns lost 11



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/11/42

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TF 1024 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)

SS KXIII, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

nice one! Type 88 sub laid mine kills a second class sub at Lautern. IIRC this sub was hit by a nav search ac before and immediately sinks after the mine hit. With DM Prebble being sunk by such a mine, this is only the second more important Type 88 mine hit. Killed half a dozen PTs also with Type 88s. The last couple of days were bad for the Allied sub force, three subs sunk...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 213
B5N Kate x 12
Ki-27 Nate x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 112

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 169

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 189100 troops, 2492 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 4230

Defending force 89638 troops, 135 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3041



Allied ground losses:
176 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8446 troops, 290 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1527

Defending force 24353 troops, 173 guns, 204 vehicles, Assault Value = 358



Allied ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15972 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3440

Defending force 221806 troops, 776 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5846

And else thereīs nothing happening. So far, three Allied AKs were reported sunk at Noumea. Hopefully there will be a couple more but I doubt it. Next turn should be a surprise for Miller. Should...

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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 9:06:09 PM   
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I told ya that Miller would be surprised today...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/12/42

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Day Air attack on Chengtu , at 41,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 12
Ki-49 Helen x 184

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen: 16 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 6 destroyed
I-153c: 11 destroyed
IL-4c: 3 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 62

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet

donīt know if this was also surprising for him but it was a nice little result at least...

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Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 88
B5N Kate x 3
G3M Nell x 54
G4M1 Betty x 35
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 33
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 51

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on La Foa , at 68,112


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 45


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x F4F-4 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet

USMC squadrons starting training runs...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
A-20B Boston x 32


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20B Boston bombing at 5000 feet
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surprise! surprise!


Day Air attack on TF at 105,123

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 83

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
TK Anastasia, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Pinna, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
TK Cathwood
SC SC-740, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Bishopdale
TK Deroche, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK La Purisima, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
TK Montebello
TK La Brea, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
TK La Placentia, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
TK A.C. Rubel, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
TK Admiral Chase, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK Kurumba, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-517, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK Santa Maria, Bomb hits 3, on fire
TK L.P. St. Clair, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SC SC-744, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Paul M Gregg, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet

this is in the South East Pacific, a carrier TF attacks a big tanker convoy that was shadowed by my subs for a couple of turns. We move the carriers in succesfully and encounter a real juicy target!

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Day Air attack on TF at 105,123

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
D3A Val x 17
B5N Kate x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
TK Admiral Williams, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SC SC-744, on fire, heavy damage
TK Iris
TK Bishopdale, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK A.C. Rubel, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Paul M Gregg, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Santa Maria, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK La Brea, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK Mindanao, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SC SC-743, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet

two strikes in the morning phase...

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Day Air attack on TF at 105,123

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
D3A Val x 31
B5N Kate x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
TK Pinna, on fire, heavy damage
TK A.C. Rubel, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK L.P. St. Clair, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
TK Kurumba, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK Santa Maria, on fire, heavy damage
TK Anastasia, on fire, heavy damage
TK Deroche, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-743, on fire, heavy damage
TK Bishopdale, on fire, heavy damage
TK Admiral Williams, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK La Placentia, on fire
TK Mindanao, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Paul M Gregg, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-744, on fire, heavy damage
TK Admiral Chase, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK La Brea, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK La Purisima, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet

and another big one in the afternoon! Great result, all those tankers were fully loaden with fuel! I guess we have destroyed at least 200.000 tons of fuel today and have probably sunk 14 or 15 tankers and 4 or 5 sub chasers for the loss of a couple Kates! BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!

In the long run this is of course also only a small victory and only a little morale boost, it doesnīt change anything of the current strategic situation. With all this fuel lost, I guess this has bought us a week or two. All those CV/BB/CA... in Australia will need a lot of fuel and the loss of all those TK should not make the Allied fuel situation any better there.


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Ground combat at Sian

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14205 troops, 456 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4223

Defending force 89300 troops, 130 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3032



Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported

deliberate attack tomorrow...

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Ground combat at Myitkyina

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8376 troops, 289 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1527

Defending force 24191 troops, 167 guns, 204 vehicles, Assault Value = 359



Allied ground losses:
151 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16009 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3444

Defending force 221794 troops, 768 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5852







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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 9:48:06 PM   
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Greenpeace won't be happy.

Maybe it's not an awful blow indeed, but it still is important.  Fuelling his massive armadas requires massive amounts of fuel, and the trip West Coast-Australia is very long, especially as you have most of the SEPac islands.  Bases from which KB can refuel before dashing to intercept other convoys.
This result should hopefully convince him to allocate more escorts to his convoys, so less boats for front-line duty.  Perhaps he'll also route his convoys even further away, causing more delay in the supply/fuel buildups.

Well done, I was wondering what you'd do with KB.  I was betting on the Timor area, I was wrong.

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RE: it goes on... - 2/13/2009 10:44:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

Greenpeace won't be happy.

Maybe it's not an awful blow indeed, but it still is important.  Fuelling his massive armadas requires massive amounts of fuel, and the trip West Coast-Australia is very long, especially as you have most of the SEPac islands.  Bases from which KB can refuel before dashing to intercept other convoys.
This result should hopefully convince him to allocate more escorts to his convoys, so less boats for front-line duty.  Perhaps he'll also route his convoys even further away, causing more delay in the supply/fuel buildups.

Well done, I was wondering what you'd do with KB.  I was betting on the Timor area, I was wrong.


using more escorts wouldnīt help him, in this case the losses would have just been more severe. Of course he could use a couple of CVs but I guess thatīs not worth it and not doable with all the convoys going from the West coast to Koala land.

And it wasnīt KB... only a couple of slow CVs. KB (450 ac) is in combat position if my opponent tries to do an attack where I donīt want him to attack.


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