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RE: it goes on... - 6/1/2009 3:48:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Xxzard

You are lucky in that map that there is such a convenient road to Darwin to everywhere, otherwise an offensive of this type would have to be conducted by sea.

Nonetheless, push on to Brisbane!



it´s not just me that is lucky with this map. Without this map, the Allied could not have established the invasion of Timor and that was the start of all of this...

At the moment I´m not intending to attack Brisbane as there´s no real need to. Major targets at the moment are: Wyndham and Irkutsk as the primary targets and the area around Townsville and Cairns as a secondary target. Followed by Port Moresby and the rest of Russia. As soon as either Wyndham or Irkutsk falls I will free up a hell a lot of troops. 5500 av (only inf units) at Wyndham and the bases around and 1800 av (only tank units) at Irkutsk. Both should be very welcome to act as garison troops in important areas to further bolster my defenses (which doesn´t look that bad anyway) and to aid a major offensive. Lol, mid 43 and I´m talking about major offensives... As soon as my troops will have arrived at Townsville we will see what Miller has in the region. Our biggest problem will surely be the level 9 forts he´s expected to have everywhere as this could slow us down and give Miller enough time to move in reinforcements. But then we´re back at start with us having so many troops in the area that he can´t dislodge us and his troops bogged down also, not able to mount an offensive into the Solomons, New Guinea or elsewhere. By the time we knock out the troops at Wyndham (yes, I´m still thinking I will take that base - kind of a little Adolf that still thought he would knock out the Russians at Kursk) we could then move on into the Townsville area to knock out the troops that are fighting us there.

Lol, I don´t want to think about what it would mean for the Allied to lose all those divisions at Wyndham AND a couple of divisions more on Australia´s East coast. I sure would love to have my tanks with me now, but they are really needed in Russia for the assault on Irkutsk that has to start asap.

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RE: it goes on... - 6/1/2009 4:31:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terje439

Any chance for a view of the strategic map?

Terje



here you go...






as you can see, the Japanese Empire has grown to quite some size, the overall situation isn´t that bad considering the fact that we´re nearly in 8/43 and are still mounting bigger offensives than the enemy. But this should not fool us! No matter what we do, it´s always a max effort. We have won lots of terrain but the enemy is already employing aircraft that enable him to achieve air superiority everywhere he decides to emplow them. Our fuel situation is critical (due to the fact that we have to use twice the number of merchants than usual as the cargo capacity is greatly reduced - this absolutely leads to problems, don´t know if Nikademus has thought about this as we will run out of fuel at some point just from using our merchants to transport oil, supply and resources ). The oil / resource / supply situation looks good but as soon as we´ve run out of fuel I will have to surrender anyway and end the game. If you think about the fact that you start the mod with nearly 4.500.000 fuel then this sounds a lot. Well, we´re 20 months into the war and I´m down to 1.300.000 fuel and I guess I couldn´t do much better than I did. The problem really is that I have to use twice the number of merchants to carry stuff around, the fuel production didn´t change though and that´s one point where mods become critical as you notice that when it´s too late. If I wouldn´t use any of my warships at all, I would still run out of fuel!!! This after conquering all the SRA (with all oil intact after repairing everything!), all of India except Karachi and Ceylon and probably soon all of Russia. Well, what else am I expected to conquer in this mod to have enough fuel? The West Coast? It´s a shame when you spend hundreds of hours playing and doing an AAR just to find out that the mod has a big problem.

I´ve fired off an email to Paul:

Hi Paul

Looks like we are (better say I am) running into problems that are mod related. Well, as you know, Nikademus greatly reduced the cargo capacity of merchants in the mod, which means I have to use roughly twice the number of merchants to haul stuff around. This means I´m using up twice as much fuel as I´m expected to. While Nik had a good idea with the reduction of cargo capacity, he obviously didn´t think far enough as he should have. I´m running out of fuel…. I fear the game will end within the next 6 months because my fuel stocks are sucked dry, just because of the fact that I get the same fuel supply as in stock but have to use twice the ships. I´ve started with nearly 4.500.000 fuel and after 20 months of game time I´m now down to just above 1.300.000, which is nothing as I have to pick up fuel everywhere already. I´m using up 150.000+ fuel a month more than I produce as nearly all my merchants are underway 100% of the time.

Don´t know how I should have performed better than conquering all the oil in the SRA, the oil in India and the oil from Ohka Sakkalin but I´m still producing less than I need just to feed my merchant Navy. It´s a shame and I hate it to say, but we should be prepared to end the game within the next 6 months of game time at the latest as this will be the time when my ships will run out of fuel because as soon as I´m down to 500.000 fuel on the WHOLE MAP it will mean there´s no fuel anymore anywhere. All those hours of playing and doing an AAR for nothing… what a crap.

ciao

Chris

Back to the map. As you can see there are the major areas of importance at the moment and we´re doing quite good in all of them (while I don´t know what the Allied will throw at me at Townsville). China is knocked out, India is well garissoned and Russia is probably about to fall within the next 10 months if we will be able to knock out Irkutsk. If we´re able to knock out Wyndham then the Allied will be short of urgently needed divisions to mount ongoing offensives into vital areas. Without Australia´s North coast the Allied will have to take a longer way either through the Pacific and our built up atolls bristling with forts and artillery or up New Guinea and if we are able to bog down one of his major invasions then this will bring us months of time as his troops will have to recover from bloody invasions. Smaller number of Allied divisions just means slower advance. Well, that´s just for the theory as I won´t be able to see that when I will run out of fuel for my merchants at the beginning of 1944. Oh boy, stock is a mess, but there aren´t any problems to play stock through into 1946... you can´t do that with this mod...



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RE: it goes on... - 6/1/2009 7:37:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy
I´m running out of fuel…. I fear the game will end within the next 6 months because my fuel stocks are sucked dry, just because of the fact that I get the same fuel supply as in stock but have to use twice the ships. I´ve started with nearly 4.500.000 fuel and after 20 months of game time I´m now down to just above 1.300.000, which is nothing as I have to pick up fuel everywhere already. I´m using up 150.000+ fuel a month more than I produce as nearly all my merchants are underway 100% of the time.



Wow, that is a major issue indeed. Do you refuel your tankers? Would it help any at all to have them simply paddle around? Sure it would take much longer, but might save some fuel.

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RE: it goes on... - 6/1/2009 8:11:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy
I´m running out of fuel…. I fear the game will end within the next 6 months because my fuel stocks are sucked dry, just because of the fact that I get the same fuel supply as in stock but have to use twice the ships. I´ve started with nearly 4.500.000 fuel and after 20 months of game time I´m now down to just above 1.300.000, which is nothing as I have to pick up fuel everywhere already. I´m using up 150.000+ fuel a month more than I produce as nearly all my merchants are underway 100% of the time.



Wow, that is a major issue indeed. Do you refuel your tankers? Would it help any at all to have them simply paddle around? Sure it would take much longer, but might save some fuel.

Terje


it would help not to refuel them but wouldn´t that be really strange? Not to think about that I would again need twice the number of ships because they would now move at only one hex per phase. So this would mean I would need nearly four times the ships compared to stock to move stuff around.


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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 3:05:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		gratulations, chris. you are still doing very well against paul. and brilliant move in the south. and all this in a MOD, which "discriminates" the japanese player with lower cargo capacity, weaker CAP, mighty allied flak and 4mot. bombers....

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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 3:21:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

gratulations, chris. you are still doing very well against paul. and brilliant move in the south. and all this in a MOD, which "discriminates" the japanese player with lower cargo capacity, weaker CAP, mighty allied flak and 4mot. bombers....




thanks. Can´t say it really discriminates the Japanese though. I have yet to find out how many of my ac will really be able to penetrate Allied CV Cap but I´m confident. The Allied bombers are a bit too durable, Nik even mentioned that in his readme of the mod, he wasn´t sure if it´s right as it is. Well, from playing it as both the Allied and Japanese I can say Allied bombers are too durable (am not saying Oscars should take down B-17s in the dozen...)

Allied cargo capacity was decreased in the same rate, Allied flak is absolutely uber though, have never seen this before in any other version. Japanese flak is even more useless as in stock as the Allied aircraft durability was that much increased that the increased flak in fact can´t do a lot, no matter how many flak units you stack into a base. Perhaps with better Japanese fighters (means higher gun value) the kill rate looks better. Not too much, not too few would be great but getting everything right is pretty hard, if not impossible anyway.

But the major problem (mod related) remains the same at the moment, I will run out of fuel just from using my merchant Navy. This means the game will just end within the next 6 months as I can´t move my ships anymore... lol

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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 3:26:17 PM   
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 3
D3A Val x 81
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 35
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 53
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 326

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 115
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 12
TBF Avenger x 16
PBY Catalina x 1


No Allied losses

Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x TBF Avenger bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 14
B-25C Mitchell x 38
B-25J Mitchell x 56
B-26B Marauder x 41


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 85

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 57990 troops, 578 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1175

Defending force 17602 troops, 162 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 386



Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15823 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2320

Defending force 282338 troops, 1353 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 6541



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22633 troops, 268 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2448

Defending force 165876 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4821



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Ground combat at 66,31

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 37953 troops, 439 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 777

Defending force 7196 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 187

Japanese max assault: 765 - adjusted assault: 149

Allied max defense: 179 - adjusted defense: 47

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1037 casualties reported
Guns lost 38
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

we dislodge the Russian division again but we suffer quite some losses... The Russian unit will have lost another 20% of it´s strenght that don´t show up in the cr though, we have nearly only disablements...

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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22449 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5560 troops, 24 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 83



Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8330 troops, 282 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4238

Defending force 145372 troops, 1000 guns, 395 vehicles, Assault Value = 2886



Allied ground losses:
211 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100380 troops, 816 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 2726

Defending force 91554 troops, 908 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1864


Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 2



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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 3:32:31 PM   
castor troy


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ASW attack at 52,93

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
MSW Vireo
MSW Cochin
MSW Token
MSW Strive
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Skylark

enemy TF leaves Port Moresby... would be cool if those MSW wouldn´t sink another sub... the two that they´ve attacked on their way in sank both...

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Sub attack at 52,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-175

Allied Ships
AK Empire Bruce, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Georgian
AK Chilka
AK Herleik
MSW Vireo
MSW Cochin
MSW Token
MSW Strive
MSW Sheldrake
MSW Skylark
MSW Requisite
MSW Pursuit


Allied ground losses:
62 casualties reported

we then hit a big AK hard... the TF is leaving PM fully loaded with troops, this can mean only one thing, Miller is bringing back his inf units to Australia to fight my divisions at Cairns...

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ASW attack at 51,95

Japanese Ships
SS I-8, hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Panther
DD Nestor
DD Inconstant
DD Hotspur

moderate damage but out of action... this is a TF heading towards PM... the TF is reported as consisting of at least two dozen ships so I guess this is another big supply delivery as Miller can be sure of the fact that if he loses the Cairns/Townsville area that the PM defenders won´t get anymore reinforcements/supply for quite some time...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 81
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 35
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 54
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 325

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 120
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
Boomerang II x 64
P-400 Airacobra x 72
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 24


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 64

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 34
Beaufighter VIF x 19
Beaufighter VIC x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 14


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 11
PBY Catalina x 1


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 36
B-26B Marauder x 38


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet

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ASW attack at 51,95

Japanese Ships
SS I-8, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Panther
DD Nestor
DD Inconstant
DD Hotspur
DD Griffin
DD Foxhound
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Van Galen
DD Le Triomphant

another two misses, the sub has to retire to Truk for three weeks of repairs...

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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 221790 troops, 2342 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 4236

Defending force 144698 troops, 991 guns, 386 vehicles, Assault Value = 2868

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Japanese max assault: 3830 - adjusted assault: 1576

Allied max defense: 2792 - adjusted defense: 8989

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)


Japanese ground losses:
8794 casualties reported
Guns lost 252
Vehicles lost 14

Allied ground losses:
1082 casualties reported
Guns lost 66
Vehicles lost 2

boy oh boy... just had to attack now as it is obvious that the Allied are really low on supply... well, their adjusted av doesn´t reflect that at all... once again you just have to wonder... we are fully prepped, fully supplied, get our av halved, the enemy is starving and fully supplied and has his forts and gets his av more than trippled... lol how should that work... I don´t care, we will take that damned base...

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58111 troops, 582 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1182

Defending force 17646 troops, 167 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 387



Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15809 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2316

Defending force 281882 troops, 1335 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 6530



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22623 troops, 265 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2445

Defending force 165926 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4831



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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22409 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5535 troops, 25 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 80



Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 2


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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100375 troops, 817 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 2725

Defending force 91537 troops, 907 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1860


Japanese ground losses:
296 casualties reported
Guns lost 23

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 4



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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 3:36:27 PM   
bigbaba


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Status: offline 		maybe you can reduce the fuel usage of your armed forces in the next weeks? remember, that you initiated more major operations in the last 20 months then most of the japanese players during the whole war. all that must cost alot of fuel.

but now, with china, india, russia (soon), australia secured, you can reduce offensive operations and react to his attacks to save fuel.

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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 4:35:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Or you live with it and play on. This will make it more difficult for you which seems to be necessary after all your successfull campaigns and house rules that favour the Japanese 

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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 5:06:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

maybe you can reduce the fuel usage of your armed forces in the next weeks? remember, that you initiated more major operations in the last 20 months then most of the japanese players during the whole war. all that must cost alot of fuel.

but now, with china, india, russia (soon), australia secured, you can reduce offensive operations and react to his attacks to save fuel.




none of those operations has really cost me a hell a lot of fuel compared to what people usually do sending KB out for raids every couple of weeks deep into the Pacific. It´s not the warships that suck my fuelstorages dry, it´s the merchant navy. Hauling oil / resources / supply and fuel costs me more fuel than I produce. FAR MORE fuel than I produce, due to the fact that I have to use twice the number of ships than I´m expected to. Got the Nikmod cargo capacities and the stock fuel supply. And remember, I´m producing far more oil and fuel than the average Japanese player in stock as it´s not really usual to secure EVERY oil center on the map. There isn´t a single oil center left I guess. Well, perhaps there´s one far South in Australia but that´s it then.

And all this still is not enough to only fuel my merchant Navy...

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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 5:07:32 PM   
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Or you live with it and play on. This will make it more difficult for you which seems to be necessary after all your successfull campaigns and house rules that favour the Japanese 

This is your chance to show your warrior spirit




lol, you mean having warships moving at one hex per phase is a good thing? Will be nice to play like this. Let´s send out KB, it will take the carriers one week from Truk to Rabaul, hopefully the enemy will still be there when we arrive...

the only thing why I´m doing good are the hrs that favour Japan...

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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 5:56:07 PM   
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lol, you mean having warships moving at one hex per phase is a good thing? Will be nice to play like this. Let´s send out KB, it will take the carriers one week from Truk to Rabaul, hopefully the enemy will still be there when we arrive...

the only thing why I´m doing good are the hrs that favour Japan...


Come on now, why stop playing just because the situation is FUBAR? You ARE the Japanese player after all. Are you even allowed to give up untill the Emperor says so (which I believe is only after the release of AE)

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RE: it goes on... - 6/2/2009 6:46:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy

lol, you mean having warships moving at one hex per phase is a good thing? Will be nice to play like this. Let´s send out KB, it will take the carriers one week from Truk to Rabaul, hopefully the enemy will still be there when we arrive...

the only thing why I´m doing good are the hrs that favour Japan...


Come on now, why stop playing just because the situation is FUBAR? You ARE the Japanese player after all. Are you even allowed to give up untill the Emperor says so (which I believe is only after the release of AE)

Terje



the fuel thing is really a mess and the only real game breaker so far. It´s not over yet, I just wanted to give Miller the info that we might run into real problem in six months game time - and it really looks like it. No matter when AE comes out I don´t expect this game to end as soon as AE is released because I won´t buy (well, perhaps I will buy it immedietely) nor will I start a PBEM before the first two or three patches.


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RE: it goes on... - 6/4/2009 12:01:33 PM   
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ASW attack at 7,89

Japanese Ships
SS I-37, hits 8

Allied Ships
DD Racehorse
DD Isis
DD Decoy

another big TF moving to PM...

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ASW attack at 52,93

Japanese Ships
SS I-175, hits 9, on fire

Allied Ships
AK Henry Dearborn
DD Panther
DD Nestor
DD Inconstant
DD Hotspur
DD Griffin
DD Foxhound
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Van Galen
DD Le Triomphant

knocking out I-37 and sinking I-175... boy, it´s the time where I don´t see a reason anymore to send out my subs... those MSWs earlier and now those DDs have sunk 3 subs and heavily damaged another half a dozen... I´m usually not putting them into enemy bases and have them just sit there (like many Allied subs have been doing for 20 months of war) and I´m moving them... doesn´t help, IJN subs are just sitting ducks at this date... I will mostly use them for recon duty from now on...

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TF 1029 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (53,91)

Allied Ships
DD Nestor
DD Le Triomphant

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TF 1036 encounters mine field at Kwajalein (79,79)

Allied Ships
SS Pargo, Mine hits 1, on fire

another Allied sub hits a Type 93 mine but that means just nothing...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
B5N Kate x 27
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 53

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported

Port hits 6
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
Boomerang II x 62
P-400 Airacobra x 72
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 23


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 57

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 27
Beaufighter VIF x 19
Beaufighter VIC x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Canton Island , at 98,99


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 4
Liberator VI x 115
PV-1 Ventura x 23
PB4Y Liberator x 32


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 4 damaged
Liberator VI: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 95

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Liberator VI bombing at 15000 feet

Miller keeps bombing Canton Island... if we don´t take down a bomber over the atoll, there won´t be any losses at all... today, one bomber is lost... one...

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 13
PBY Catalina x 1


No Allied losses

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 34
B-25J Mitchell x 17
B-26B Marauder x 36


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
AK Empire Opossum
AK Jacques Laramie
AK Admiral Chase
AK Centarus
DD Panther
DD Nestor
DD Inconstant
DD Hotspur
DD Griffin
DD Foxhound
DD Tjerk Hiddes

boy how much fun... also this SS is immedietely sunk... I have to laugh about my opponent´s statement a couple of game months ago abou the ridicoulos changes of IJN subs in this mod as those changes have made them unsinkable if they aren´t in a base hex... lol... 4 subs sunk and more than half a dozen heavily damaged just from meeting 6 MSW and those DDs on escort duty...

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58166 troops, 588 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1184

Defending force 17690 troops, 169 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 389



Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15806 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2318

Defending force 281246 troops, 1320 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 6522



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22627 troops, 266 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2446

Defending force 165970 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4815



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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22449 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5541 troops, 24 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 83



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8310 troops, 282 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4962

Defending force 142110 troops, 905 guns, 381 vehicles, Assault Value = 2781



Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported

we will attack again soon...

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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100339 troops, 813 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 2725

Defending force 91228 troops, 885 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1854


Japanese ground losses:
321 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported



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RE: it goes on... - 6/4/2009 12:09:49 PM   
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 81
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 34
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 53
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 292

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 131
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
Boomerang II x 61
P-400 Airacobra x 72
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 23


No Allied losses

Runway hits 62

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 27
Beaufighter VIF x 17
Beaufighter VIC x 6
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 10


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Iman , at 69,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18
Ki-61 Ic x 14
Ki-46-III Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged

the Tonies are sent out for another test raid but the Russian I-16 weren´t cooperative and bogeyed out...

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 16
PBY Catalina x 1


No Allied losses

Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 14
B-25C Mitchell x 34
B-25J Mitchell x 63
B-26B Marauder x 36


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 94

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ohka - Sakalin at 76,26

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 73
Ki-61 Ic x 18

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 13
B-25J Mitchell x 22
B-24D Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 10 damaged
Ki-61 Ic: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 10 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell: 8 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Yukaze

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
1 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

we see slightly more than 50% of our fighters in the air today when the Allied bombers came in to bomb our DDs. The Warhawks had no chance on escort and we also take 10 bombers down. Those are the easy engagements for us, not much to lose and some easy kills. The DDs are the hardest targets to hit in a naval attack so not much danger here either...




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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 237592 troops, 2739 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 5024

Defending force 59517 troops, 448 guns, 122 vehicles, Assault Value = 1071

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 8

Japanese max assault: 5267 - adjusted assault: 2456

Allied max defense: 1064 - adjusted defense: 1398

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 8)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 8


Japanese ground losses:
5758 casualties reported
Guns lost 153
Vehicles lost 23

Allied ground losses:
946 casualties reported
Guns lost 33
Vehicles lost 2

there are more troops holding position at Townsville than I would have expected as I expected 1000 av in this whole region, not just at Townsville alone... Not sure I can achieve something in the near future as I´m sure that Miller moved most of his Port Moresby attackers out again with the TF we´ve attacked and those troops probably will go to Townsville... looks like we will have to wait until Wyndhamn falls but at least our offensive more or less stops any Allied ambitions to move further on New Guinea. If I could spare three IJA divisions I would send them to PM now, coming over the trails from Buna. I can´t as all my divisions are tied up in a huge ground war in Australia...

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58295 troops, 589 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1191

Defending force 17704 troops, 170 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 387



Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15843 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2316

Defending force 280650 troops, 1309 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 6504



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22624 troops, 266 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2446

Defending force 166012 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4817



Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22449 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5543 troops, 24 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 84



Allied ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8286 troops, 280 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4467

Defending force 142295 troops, 912 guns, 380 vehicles, Assault Value = 2778



Allied ground losses:
296 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100420 troops, 820 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 2727

Defending force 90970 troops, 880 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1848


Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 2





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RE: it goes on... - 6/4/2009 12:18:21 PM   
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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 46,103

Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign
BB Ramilles
DD Arunta
DD Cony
DD Chevalier
DD Aulick
DD Fletcher
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
CL Hobart
CL Perth
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CA Canberra
CA Shropshire

Japanese ground losses:
461 casualties reported
Guns lost 27
Vehicles lost 2

such a bombardment doesn´t really impress me... impossible to nuke inf units... I´m sure though that we will now see this TF doing a bombardment daily, will probably just stay at Townsville to bombard, replenish, bombard, replenish...

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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 69,22


Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 18
MiG-3 x 65
Pe-2 x 47


Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Pe-2 bombing at 10000 feet

the enemy switched target again... this attack means nothing and as soon as I have enough Tonies ready I will take out the rest of the Russian/US/Chinese airforce anyway...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 81
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 35
G3M Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 54
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 327

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 158
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 25
Beaufighter VIF x 17
Beaufighter VIC x 7
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 11


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 13
PBY Catalina x 1


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 31
B-25J Mitchell x 62
B-26B Marauder x 30


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 65

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet


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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58350 troops, 590 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1192

Defending force 17624 troops, 173 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 384



Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15863 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2317

Defending force 282542 troops, 1338 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 6565



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22641 troops, 267 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2450

Defending force 165869 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4824



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22452 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 481

Defending force 5516 troops, 22 guns, 104 vehicles, Assault Value = 83



Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8266 troops, 280 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4494

Defending force 141628 troops, 903 guns, 379 vehicles, Assault Value = 2749



Allied ground losses:
402 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 1

Allied av has dropped by 29 points since yesterday... looks good, next deliberate attack soon to come and if the whole assault doesn´t get totally screwed up then I hope to take this base within the next four weeks as our last attack was the start of the final assault on this stronghold... I´m really amazed that the supply didn´t last longer but when I think about the fact how much supply I have to bring to Australia to feed my Army than I shouldn´t be surprised at all... I´m pumping hundreds of thousands tons of supply into Darwin and have problems to keep up with the demands of my ground units... guess especially the Army at Townsville is needing a hell a lot of supplies as the transport from Darwin all the way to Townsville means for one ton delivered two tons are lost on the long way...

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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15592 troops, 189 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4661

Defending force 55310 troops, 351 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 1033



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100392 troops, 823 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 2847

Defending force 90922 troops, 880 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1847


Japanese ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 34755 troops, 261 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1033

Defending force 243475 troops, 2594 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 4661


Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Guns lost 2



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RE: it goes on... - 6/4/2009 2:47:39 PM   
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RE: it goes on... - 6/4/2009 4:02:04 PM   
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You're only using less than a tenth of your artillery to bombard at Townsville ?



yeah, only one div is set to bombard as the bombardment effects aren´t really good anyway if I would use all of them and troops recover faster if set to defense. As we suffered 5000+ casualties dispersed within all our units they are all resting rather than doing bombardments. The only reason I´ve kept one div to bombard is that I want to see what Miller has at the base and if he brings in more troops. Staying on defense also saves supply. For the moment I think all I can do is to wait for Wyndham to fall and then move more stuff South. I´ve already achieved the main reason for driving South anyway: no more Allied invasions in the PM area.

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RE: it goes on... - 6/6/2009 9:55:15 AM   
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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 46,103

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
CL Hobart
CL Perth
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CA Canberra
CA Shropshire
BB Ramilles
BB Royal Sovereign

Japanese ground losses:
548 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 3

as expected, we will see this now daily... bombard, replenish...

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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 69,22


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 18
MiG-3 x 3
Pe-2 x 31


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Pe-2: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Pe-2 bombing at 10000 feet

I´m further building up my strenght in Russia again and will soon have enough Tonies to silence the combined Russian/Chinese/US strikes out of Khomsomalsk... in the meantime, Miller is flying attacks against an airfield... this isn´t worrying me at all as the damage is light, will be repaired within a day or two and i don´t need that airfield anyway...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
D3A Val x 27
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 8
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 324

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 180

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 5
Boomerang II x 62
P-400 Airacobra x 71
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 24


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet

the Corsairs left again and have been replaced...

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 32
Beaufighter VIF x 20
Beaufighter VIC x 7
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Canton Island , at 98,99


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 3
Liberator VI x 113
PV-1 Ventura x 23
PB4Y Liberator x 20


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 damaged
Liberator VI: 1 destroyed, 24 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 151

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 12000 feet

Miller is up to something here, otherwise he wouldn´t fly constant attacks against this atoll...

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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 35
B-24D Liberator x 90
IL-4c x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 9 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 29 damaged
IL-4c: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
203 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet
20 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet

first of a serious of heavy air attacks against my inf divisions at Charter towers. The enemy comes in high but as mentioned a couple of times already, if flak is defending LCUs then the effect is at least trippled. Only god knows why (I guess the devs don´t...) My troops get highly disrupted but that´s it. Such an attack renders an inf division useless for at least three days as the disruption goes up into the 70-80 range...

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Day Air attack on 48th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 14
B-25J Mitchell x 37
B-26B Marauder x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet

Miller has also brought a lot of medium bombers to Rockhampton...

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Day Air attack on 31st Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 17
B-24D Liberator x 45
IL-4c x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 11 damaged
IL-4c: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
173 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on 56th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 18
B-26B Marauder x 14


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 6 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 11 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on 46th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 42
B-25J Mitchell x 53
B-26B Marauder x 19


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 18 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet

unfortunately for us, the Allied get their usual multiple strikes against units in a stack. I would prefer if only one or two units would be attacked by bigger strikes...

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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 45
PV-1 Ventura x 113


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet

have sent a lonely inf division towards Cairns but it gets attacked immediately... no sense sending it into the town as with a high disruption we can´t even dislodge a couple of base forces behind level 9 forts and I have no clue what really is at Cairns, intel says 9 units but that´s it. The division will march down the road again to Charter Towers.

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 13
PBY Catalina x 1


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 12
B-25C Mitchell x 34
B-25J Mitchell x 58
B-26B Marauder x 26


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 79

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

the enemy flew a lot of attacks and in the end it proves more or less costly as our flak was able to down a dozen bombers and a couple of bombers more were lost to ops...




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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58502 troops, 594 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1199

Defending force 17704 troops, 176 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 385



Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15883 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2316

Defending force 284242 troops, 1373 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 6601



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22659 troops, 264 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2450

Defending force 165773 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4828



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22469 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5430 troops, 23 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 80



Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 247076 troops, 2533 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 5055

Defending force 140546 troops, 891 guns, 376 vehicles, Assault Value = 2712

Japanese max assault: 260 - adjusted assault: 31

Allied max defense: 2599 - adjusted defense: 4426

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)


Japanese ground losses:
3369 casualties reported
Guns lost 74
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
424 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

boy... have set all my units at Wyndham to deliberate attack by accident as I wanted to order all of them to bombard. I first clicked on deliberate attack - set all units to attack, then clicked on bomard - set all units to attack. Unfortunately this means that only those units are set to bombard that actually can bombard, the others stay on deliberate attack. This lead to this disaster when I had more than half a dozen eng units attacking. They are all wrecked now of course... stupid me... this could mean that the attack on Wyndham will take a couple of weeks longer as I just lost 1/3 of my total combat engineers...

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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15551 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4639

Defending force 68692 troops, 536 guns, 204 vehicles, Assault Value = 1111

my assault value looks good compared to the defender´s av but I´m not yet ready to assault the town. The enemy´s troop strenght went up by nearly 10.000 so I guess this is the reinforcement that came from PM. The av didn´t really go up though...


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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100408 troops, 822 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 2848

Defending force 90758 troops, 882 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1842


Japanese ground losses:
225 casualties reported
Guns lost 10


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41188 troops, 428 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1111

Defending force 241815 troops, 2530 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 4639


Japanese ground losses:
246 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 3





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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 46,103

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
CL Hobart
CL Perth
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CA Canberra
CA Shropshire
BB Ramilles
BB Royal Sovereign

Japanese ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 1

another bombardment?

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Sub attack near Sasebo at 58,41

Japanese Ships
DD Chidori
DD Tomozuru
DD Hatsukari
DD Manazuru
DD Tachikaze
DD Hokaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 1

lol, the old story. Spotted the sub in my base yesterday, sent two 6 ship DD ASW TFs and one acts immedietely as a target. 4 torps missed and we achieve a laughable near miss... guess KXVI will move out tomorrow... easier way would just be to move in two sentais of Helens set to 2 hexes nav search 6000ft and bomb the bastard into hell but that is just too gamey...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
B5N Kate x 69
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Port hits 7
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PB2Y Coronado x 5
Boomerang II x 60
P-400 Airacobra x 71
P-39D Airacobra x 69
P-40E Warhawk x 22


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 66

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 33
Beaufighter VIF x 18
Beaufighter VIC x 9
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 12


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 42
PV-1 Ventura x 110


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet

the enemy only flew attacks against my division near Cairns...

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 29
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 16
B-25C Mitchell x 36
B-25J Mitchell x 58
B-26B Marauder x 32


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 89

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Canton Island , at 98,99


Allied aircraft
PBY Catalina x 1
Liberator VI x 71
PV-1 Ventura x 21
PB4Y Liberator x 17


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 1 damaged
Liberator VI: 24 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 100

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet

back to back attack on Canton Island. Miller is definetely up to something... Those bombers were flying a max range attack two times in two days, dozens are damaged, not one is lost...

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58609 troops, 597 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1205

Defending force 17568 troops, 175 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 386



Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15863 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2317

Defending force 286253 troops, 1398 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 6651



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22683 troops, 265 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2450

Defending force 165744 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4829



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22469 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5404 troops, 23 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 79



Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7742 troops, 250 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5367

Defending force 139204 troops, 884 guns, 369 vehicles, Assault Value = 2668



Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

deliberate attack tomorrow... hopefully the forts will drop... I am really amazed by the drop of enemy av and troop strenght. This can´t be due to starvation only. I bet Miller is flying out troops but what ac does he use? None of his C-47 can reach Wyndham and I have a very, very bad feeling at the moment. I guess he uses the well known, old bug (guess Yamatohugger would call this "workaround" also) of setting transport ac to pick up unit and just click on the base. No matter that the base isn´t in range, you can still pick up the troops. Next Allied base is Alice Springs and that is 15 hexes away, if he brings in C-47 and does this "workaround" then he moves out troops even though the base is out of range of his transports...

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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15482 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4657

Defending force 68949 troops, 543 guns, 209 vehicles, Assault Value = 1116



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100387 troops, 823 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 2848

Defending force 90548 troops, 875 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1833


Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Guns lost 23

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56429 troops, 543 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1116

Defending force 241240 troops, 2527 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 4657


Japanese ground losses:
225 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 3



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RE: it goes on... - 6/6/2009 9:06:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, this is most refreshing to see.  Good job of taking the fight to the Allies, just what I had in mind for my little war.  Nice reading, I'll keep my eyes on this one 

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RE: it goes on... - 6/7/2009 3:23:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

deliberate attack tomorrow... hopefully the forts will drop... I am really amazed by the drop of enemy av and troop strenght. This can´t be due to starvation only. I bet Miller is flying out troops but what ac does he use? None of his C-47 can reach Wyndham and I have a very, very bad feeling at the moment. I guess he uses the well known, old bug (guess Yamatohugger would call this "workaround" also) of setting transport ac to pick up unit and just click on the base. No matter that the base isn´t in range, you can still pick up the troops. Next Allied base is Alice Springs and that is 15 hexes away, if he brings in C-47 and does this "workaround" then he moves out troops even though the base is out of range of his transports...


Sure he aint using patrol planes or heavy bombers for this?
If you are sure it is the bug being used, are you going to ask him about it?

Terje

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RE: it goes on... - 6/8/2009 8:09:21 AM   
castor troy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: terje439


quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

deliberate attack tomorrow... hopefully the forts will drop... I am really amazed by the drop of enemy av and troop strenght. This can´t be due to starvation only. I bet Miller is flying out troops but what ac does he use? None of his C-47 can reach Wyndham and I have a very, very bad feeling at the moment. I guess he uses the well known, old bug (guess Yamatohugger would call this "workaround" also) of setting transport ac to pick up unit and just click on the base. No matter that the base isn´t in range, you can still pick up the troops. Next Allied base is Alice Springs and that is 15 hexes away, if he brings in C-47 and does this "workaround" then he moves out troops even though the base is out of range of his transports...


Sure he aint using patrol planes or heavy bombers for this?
If you are sure it is the bug being used, are you going to ask him about it?

Terje



You can´t place patrols inland and Alice Springs is the only place in "range" of any aircraft of the Allied. And you can´t use bombers (B-24 would have the range from Alice Springs) to transport troops, you could use them for supply runs. So if they are not dying by starvation, well there´s only this "feature" I mentioned left...

I usually don´t want to ask an opponent if he´s using an exploit because if he does, he obviously thinks it would be ok. And in this case it´s just not important enough for me to start a fight. The more troops he flies out with this "feature" the sooner he will lose Wyndham. He loses Wyndham, I have 5000 av ready to move onto the next target and that´s quite a nice situation given the date of this campaign.

I´ve mentioned in an email the use of his barges that were spotted by my subs and the obviously turned back to Perth as it seems Paul has accepted my thought of it being strange to use barges for a 45 hex supply move. 10-15 hexes ok if there´s fuel at the destination but not a nearly 100 hex move to and from the destination.


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RE: it goes on... - 6/9/2009 9:23:46 AM   
castor troy


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Status: offline 		I couldn´t resist and have asked Miller if he also knows about the "workaround" how to pick up troops that are actually out of range of your ac and he replied that he was very disappointed that I would think that he cheats. Well, he shouldn´t be disappointed because the more troops he flies out, the better for me.

But what really surprised me is the fact that he told me that he´s using C-46 to fly out troops and they have enough range. I don´t know if he really thinks they have enough range or if he thinks I wouldn´t know their range. The C-46 has a huge cargo capacity (15.000) but not more than 9 hexes range in Nikmod. Well, Wyndham is 14 hexes away. Which makes it pretty obvious that he uses the workaraound, feature, bug, glitch or however you want to call it.

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RE: it goes on... - 6/9/2009 9:34:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Planes may land, refuel and then fly back with the troops. It doesnÄt matter in witp, whether a plane makes paradrops or can land and refuel. So if you want, it isn't bugusing or cheating - it only reflects the real possibility of refueling at an airport... 

Moreover: You have fighters, why don't you simple LR-CAP the base? He'll loose a lot of planes WITH their load and your pilots get a free live training without any serious danger.
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RE: it goes on... - 6/9/2009 9:41:34 AM   
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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 46,103

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow
CL Mauritius
CL Hobart
CL Perth
CL Achilles
CL Leander
CA Canberra
CA Shropshire
BB Ramilles
BB Royal Sovereign

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
Vehicles lost 3

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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 69,22


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 16
MiG-3 x 84
Pe-2 x 41


Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Pe-2 bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 81
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 260

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 176
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 38th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 53
B-25J Mitchell x 78
B-26B Marauder x 37


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 16 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet

even though we damage quite some bombers, nearly none are lost... more flak is hardly possible for me as there are already five AA rgts...

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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 36
PV-1 Ventura x 92


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
185 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 27
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 17
B-25C Mitchell x 31
B-25J Mitchell x 61
B-26B Marauder x 31


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 96

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 275844 troops, 3042 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 5423

Defending force 138287 troops, 877 guns, 364 vehicles, Assault Value = 2640

Japanese max assault: 5021 - adjusted assault: 1741

Allied max defense: 2520 - adjusted defense: 3535

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)


Japanese ground losses:
8966 casualties reported
Guns lost 368
Vehicles lost 12

Allied ground losses:
2448 casualties reported
Guns lost 65
Vehicles lost 5

am I totally nuts? god damn what´s going on with this sh*tty ground combat routine. Don´t know how often I have attacked here with hundreds of combat engineers and it´s not possible to take down the forts and the super duper Allied mega engineers build up the forts from a Maginot line into a super Maginot line within two weeks... Losses stay insane, that the enemy is out of supply doesn´t matter at all it seems... The real idiocy isn´t the fact that the enemy still has a higher adjusted av than base av, the idiocy is the fact that we still get our av divided by 3 even though we meet ALL requirements. Suppyl, HQ, prep... etc. etc.

At 1/1/43 everything Allied is hardcodedly turning into super duper it seems... the way this battle has been going on for months makes you want to belive that the Nazis are still holding on Stalingrad nowadays...

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58696 troops, 600 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1209

Defending force 17594 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 384



Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

please give me Allied artillery! Japanese 150mm howitzers are shooting with hand grenades...

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15883 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2313

Defending force 293039 troops, 1466 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 6699



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22661 troops, 267 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2450

Defending force 165854 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4819



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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22449 troops, 256 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Defending force 5410 troops, 22 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 78



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15515 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3330

Defending force 69207 troops, 546 guns, 209 vehicles, Assault Value = 1125



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

those 6 casualties probably drowned during taking a bath in the ocean, Japanese artillery can´t be the reason...

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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100377 troops, 822 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 2848

Defending force 89921 troops, 862 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1816


Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56656 troops, 546 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1124

Defending force 174880 troops, 1823 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 3330


Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

give me Allied artillery...

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RE: it goes on... - 6/9/2009 9:51:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Planes may land, refuel and then fly back with the troops. It doesnÄt matter in witp, whether a plane makes paradrops or can land and refuel. So if you want, it isn't bugusing or cheating - it only reflects the real possibility of refueling at an airport... 

Moreover: You have fighters, why don't you simple LR-CAP the base? He'll loose a lot of planes WITH their load and your pilots get a free live training without any serious danger.
There's no easier way to create aces!




lol, why did I 100% know that exactly such a statement would come up?

so my answer... there´s a lot in WITP that is so super abstract but why shouldn´t the same thing be valid for bombers then? Or fighters? Why can´t my Kates fly a torpedo out 8 hexes and land two hexes further East at a friendly base instead of returning? Why can´t Allied 4Es fly from Iwo to Tokyo and land at Vladivostok? All possible in real life... this bug has been around forever already and it´s a non working programme, not the abstraction of real life.

But hey, why not going with the abstraction of real life. There is no supply at Wyndham and supply is abstracted for everything. Food, fuel, ammo, etc. So if the enemy is starving then there´s not enough supply to even keep his units intact. But there´s still fuel for aircraft. Very abstract, because no supply, no aircraft fuel.

LRCAP? lol! From where should I fly LRCAP? From Darwin? I don´t know how much experience you really have with flying LRCAP but it´s definetely not enough to know how much op losses I would take for no gain as we would damage a dozen transports while taking only one or two down for the loss of up to a dozen high exp Zero pilots. LRCAP 7 hexes is just a wast of your ac and pilots, it´s definetely nothing to creat aces. Perhaps that works in stock but stock... well...

As it is in this game, aircraft have a certain range, if this range is correct or not is usually a long discussion on the forum. If a base is within range than you can use your ac to attack it, fly in supply, fly in troops. If it is out of range, you can´t do that. Wyndham is 14 hexes from Alice Springs and the C-46 has a range of 9. What more can I say? No matter if we try to abstract the possibility of Aliens coming from the Venus to relieve Adolf Hitler in Berlin 45, if the game was programmed differently than it´s just not working. In this case, it´s a not working game routine (for ages already) and not the abstraction of something.

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RE: it goes on... - 6/9/2009 10:31:53 AM   
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TF 1045 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

49 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DMS Elliot, Shell hits 3, on fire
DMS Wasmuth, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Chandler, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage

It´s like I´ve expected, the ongoing bomber attacks on Canton Island were the preparation for an invasion. Boy, invading Canton Island? That´s one of the targets I really don´t care and I have no idea why Miller attacks Canton... two of the DMS were hit hard, they are either part of a bombardment TF or are sent in before the BBs arrive... in any case not really a good idea. Two are hit hard but none is reported sunk...

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TF 1057 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Zane
DMS Southard

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TF 1062 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DMS Lamberton
DMS Hamilton

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Sub attack near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese Ships
DD Asagao
APD APD-37
APD APD-33
APD APD-32
APD APD-31
DD Kuretake

Allied Ships
SS KXIV, hits 4

lol, as usual... sub in port, spotted, ASW TF moves in, acts as a target...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

84 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Chicago, Shell hits 10
CA Chester
CA Northampton, Shell hits 4
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 11
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB Maryland

Japanese ground losses:
627 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Miller didn´t fly massed Kingfisher recon yesterday and this bombardment seems therefor not having a nuke effect...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
1114 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 42
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 8

considering the low number of eng units on the island this already comes pretty close to a nuke though...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria
CA New Orleans
BB California
BB Oklahoma
BB Nevada

Japanese ground losses:
886 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 40
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 6

at this point it was obvious that there won´t be any CD fire against the invasion... nothing left... the 3000 mines at the base are not effecting the bombardments at all...

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Naval bombardment of Canton Island, at 98,99

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
CA Quincy
CA San Francisco
BB Tennessee
BB Pennsylvania
BB Arizona

Japanese ground losses:
942 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 29
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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TF 1028 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1028 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Kelowna
MSW Gympie
MSW Glenelg
MSW Geelong
DD Vendetta
AK Thomas Nelson, Mine hits 1, on fire
DD Vampire
DD Voyager
AK Empire Torrent, Mine hits 1
AK S. Hall Young, Mine hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1028
38 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Kelowna
CL Concord

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2657 casualties reported

the invasion goes in, the TFs are reported as huge... looks like Miller finally figuered out how to assault an atoll... as you can see, the Japanese mines have no effect on Allied ships, just like handgrenades... I can still remember losing two dozen IJN DDs near Wyndham and Derby to mines... DDs from surface combat and bombardment TFs...

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TF 1028 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1028 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Kelowna
MSW Gympie
MSW Glenelg
MSW Geelong
DD Vendetta
DD Vampire
AK Empire Bardolph, Mine hits 2, on fire
AK Empire Johnson, Mine hits 1
AK Empire Haven, Mine hits 1
DD Voyager, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1028
9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

not even two mine hits are dangerous for an Allied AK... counterfire from a dedicated CD unit with five dozen CD guns and a big base force is non existing... the BBs whiped out everything...

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TF 1041 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1041 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Junee
MSW Ipswitch
MSW Horsham
MSW Freemantle
APD Manley
AK Tantalus, Mine hits 1
APD Ward
APD Schley
AK Empire Driver, Mine hits 1
DD John D. Edwards
DD Edsall
DD Barker


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1041
37 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
3403 casualties reported

laying Japanese mines is obviously a waste of fuel and supplies... while Japanes mines surely weren´t comparable to Allied mines, I wonder if it´s correct that they only have 10-20% of the effect...

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TF 1054 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1054 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Bittern
MSW Champion
MSW Oracle
MSW Herald
APD Dickerson
AK Corrales, Mine hits 1
DD Piet Hein
DD Evertsen
DD Banckert
AK Santa Teresa, Mine hits 1, on fire
AK Mormacland, Mine hits 1, on fire
APD Brooks
AK Ernest Meyer, Mine hits 1


Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1054
77 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Van Ghent
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 1
APD Gilmer
AK Tuscaloosa City, Shell hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
3826 casualties reported

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TF 1060 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

TF 1060 troops unloading over beach at Canton Island, 98,99


Allied Ships
MSW Agra
MSW Swallow
MSW Starling
MSW Launceton
MSW Latrobe
APD Dent
LST LST-32, Mine hits 1
APD McKean
LST LST-343, Mine hits 1


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Canton Island, 98,99, firing at TF 1060
53 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Agra


Allied ground losses:
3483 casualties reported

at least an LST should be in trouble after hitting a mine? No?
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Day Air attack on Heiho , at 69,22


Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 4
B-25J Mitchell x 9
MiG-3 x 51
Pe-2 x 28


Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Pe-2 bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D3A Val x 54
A6M3a Zero x 59
B5N Kate x 81
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 27
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 314

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 228
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
PB2Y Coronado x 4
Boomerang II x 51
P-400 Airacobra x 71
P-39D Airacobra x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 24


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Boomerang II bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 33
Beaufighter VIF x 19
Beaufighter VIC x 11
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 10


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Wallis Island , at 93,107


Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 122


Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
45 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Khomsomalsk , at 71,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 36

No Japanese losses

morning sweep against no Cap over Khomsomalsk anymore... bombers are set to go in in the afternoon...

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Day Air attack on 6th Base Force, at 98,99


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 18
Avenger I x 23


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 4 damaged
Avenger I: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x TBF Avenger bombing at 15000 feet

it looks like a small Allied carrier TF is lurking around South of Canton but I haven´t spotted any CVs at Canton or near it... well, my bombers from Baker Island did NOT attack today... weather was fine the whole day... thank you

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Day Air attack on 46th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 50
IL-4c x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 26 damaged
IL-4c: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on 46th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 27
B-25J Mitchell x 60
B-26B Marauder x 22


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 7 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
211 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 15000 feet

I´m thinking about moving in another DOZEN AA rgts... perhaps stripping Japan completely... use all AA guns from the home islands in one place and I guess you could achieve the same effect as two Allied base forces...

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Day Air attack on 64th Division, at 46,100


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 12
Beaufort I x 46
PV-1 Ventura x 113


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Beaufort I bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on 65th Division, at 46,103


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12
IL-4c x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 12 damaged
IL-4c: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet

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Day Air attack on Gasmata , at 59,90


Allied aircraft
Barracuda x 23
P-47C Thunderbolt x 15


Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Barracuda bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 28
PB2Y Coronado x 1


No Allied losses

Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 33
B-25J Mitchell x 58
B-26B Marauder x 28


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 102

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Khomsomalsk , at 71,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 51
Ki-49 Helen x 143

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 4 destroyed, 29 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
MiG-3: 20 destroyed
B-25J Mitchell: 3 destroyed
Pe-2: 6 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 105

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

if the Allied keep flying attacks with the Russian airforce, I will keep flying attacks to destroy it... We lose 5 Helens today against a meager flak defense... with so many bombers at the base I´m not that happy about the number of enemy bombers destroyed on the ground...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 59,90


Allied aircraft
Barracuda x 17
P-47C Thunderbolt x 50


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yuki Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Barracuda bombing at 10000 feet

Looks like Miller has set his Barracudas at PM to nav/airfield attack 6 hexes (max range) now. Means the ships going to Gasmata are now in real danger... the small AK is of course sunk after taking 2500 lb of bombs...




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Ground combat at Canton Island

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12893 troops, 94 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 448

Defending force 79760 troops, 674 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 1969



Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

lol, there are 150.000 Allied troops trapped at Wyndham and another 70.000 are struggling to hold the area around Townsville and Cairns and Miller goes in to attack a uselss atoll far off from important areas with nearly 80.000 combat troops? That´s fine with me! I would use those 2000 assault points somewhere else though as Canton is surely nowhere as important as trying to save the troops at Wyndham...

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Ground combat at 67,32

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 58838 troops, 605 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 1217

Defending force 17648 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 387



Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15883 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2314

Defending force 294548 troops, 1478 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 6724



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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22686 troops, 267 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2449

Defending force 165675 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4810



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Ground combat at Uglahamensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 22427 troops, 255 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 5402 troops, 23 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 77



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Wyndham

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7437 troops, 231 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4576

Defending force 133503 troops, 779 guns, 354 vehicles, Assault Value = 2489



Allied ground losses:
379 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Townsville

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15557 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1998

Defending force 69435 troops, 552 guns, 211 vehicles, Assault Value = 1132



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Ground combat at Karachi

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 100276 troops, 821 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 2847

Defending force 89699 troops, 856 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1813


Japanese ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Townsville

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 56855 troops, 552 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1132

Defending force 108931 troops, 1156 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1998


Japanese ground losses:
802 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied artillery... a deliberate attack of 250.000 fully supplied, fully prepped and 96-99 exp Japanese troops usually results in something like 2500 Allied casualties... an Allied bombardment of 552 guns ends with something like 500-900 Japanese casualties... nice ratio...

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Ground combat at Canton Island

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 77595 troops, 673 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 1964

Defending force 22048 troops, 114 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 448

Allied max assault: 3004 - adjusted assault: 940

Japanese max defense: 373 - adjusted defense: 400

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 7


Japanese ground losses:
4096 casualties reported
Guns lost 51

Allied ground losses:
3157 casualties reported
Guns lost 173
Vehicles lost 7


looks like I really can´t do anything to defend my bases anymore. People consider putting 25.000 troops on an atoll total overkill in the game but when I look at my ajdusted av (and compare it with the adjusted av of out of supply troops at Wyndham) then I´m more than shocked. Been a long time since I´ve seen an atoll fall as easy as Canton will fall... the attack on the first day already makes sure that the atoll will fall either on day two or three. We lose more troops than the attack and we are sitting behind level 9 forts, fully prepped, fully supplied and the inf untis were 0 disrupted (bombardments don´t touch inf units at all)... boy, damn die rolls...



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Status: offline 		Here´s what Miller has landed on Canton. I have to say I was surprised to see four US divisions. I knew there are lots of RCTs around but seeing four 100% combat ready US divs was a surprise. But as mentioned above, I really am amazed and wonder why Miller took Canton as a target... what does he gain other than wearing down his troops, even though if he will take the atoll easily? It would have taken him only something like two weeks more and he could have moved those troops into the Townsville area. In fact, they could have been there for a long time already I guess. I have to ask the same question as I´ve asked during his attack on PM, why is he trying to do an offensive if he has 150.000 troops trapped at Wyndham? Shouldn´t it be his number one priority to relieve those troops at Wyndham? This especially if he has to notice that his troops there really seem to be super tough and hold out amazingly long, even though while being out of supply. No, first he attacks PM with US divs that were down to 60% strenght and without any carrier support, resulting in his troops being even more worn down and the loss of a couple of light cruisers and 5 dozen APs! And now he attacks Canton Island! Why? And also in this attack, it seems there is no carrier support around. The small TBF attack on Canton seems to have come from CVEs or CVLs. But my bombers didn´t attack today, so not having carriers wasn´t that severe it seems.

Still, I really don´t understand my opponent´s strategic decisions at all. Not that it wouldn´t be good for me, but honestly am I totally wrong in saying that this doesn´t make sense? Perhaps I am and it´s a perfect strategy, I just don´t get it to attck exactly that base that is the furthest away from any important area.




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