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7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 4:30:47 AM   
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I didn't want to waste space and go off-topic in the Directive 21 thread, so I created this thread.

The following is an article written by Moin Ansari earlier this year. I haven't been able to verify, but I think he is an historian from Kosovo (one of the regions in which the Prinz Eugen Division operated during WW2):

7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen
by Moin Ansari

Largely because of the origin of its soldiers and its military character as a mountain unit, Phleps’ new command was designed for anti-partisan warfare and deployed in the Balkans. Initially, all its soldiers were to be volunteers, but as the division struggled to fill its ranks, conscription was introduced. Beginning in October 1942, the 7. SS-Freiwilligen-Gebirgs-Division Prinz Eugen fought continuously against the Tito’s partisans in so-called Banden-and Partisanenbekämfung and was involved in numerous war crimes against the civilian population.

Though often protrayed as an elite combat force, Heinrich Himmler’s Waffen SS only became a major player on the battlefield relatively late in World War II. The General SS had only a political role and thus its men had no exemption from conscription. Many SS men avoided the army through the loophole that kept police out of the draft pool, and using SS units for occupation and security duties helped Himmler build his political and economic empire.

While some SS units saw front-line combat from the start of Operation Barbarossa, most of those sent into the Soviet Union after 22 June 1941 were intended as security troops. They would suppress resistance, mop up bypassed Red Army units, and most importantly in Himmler’s eyes, carry out the slaughter of Jews. Many of these units found themselves pressed into front-line combat during the Soviet winter offensive of 1941-1942, and when spring came the SS began to expand its combat role.

Still denied access to the general German draft pool, the SS turned to other sources of manpower. Ethnic Germans, or Volksdeutsche, formed part of the “Great German nation” under Adolf Hitler’s racist ideology, yet were not subject to conscription by the regular German armed forces under German law and such a draft was forbidden under international law. As early as August 1940, Himmler’s recruiting chief, Gottlieb Burger, recommended that the Waffen SS seek volunteers among the Volksdeutsche of occupied Yugoslavia.

Himmler approved the proposal in March 1942, authorizing formation of an SS mountain division from Volksdeutsche recruited in Serbia. The Germans did not yet press their recruiting efforts in the Italian-occupied zones of Yugoslavia, or the puppet state of Croatia. The most successful recruiting drive came in Romanian southern Transylvania, where Burger’s son-in-law, Andreas Schmidt, headed the SS political organization. Most of the new mountain division’s recruits came from Transylvania but as a sop to the Romanian government’s pride they were described as having come from Serbia in SS propaganda.

The new division, eventually known as the 7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division “Prinz Eugen,” began formation in April 1942 at Weisskirchen in Austria. The unit sullied the name of Austria’s most successful battlefield commander, who settled many Germans in Serbia (the genesis of the Volksdeutsche community there) and initiated a campaign of what a later century would call “ethnic cleansing.” As with many examples of Nazi propaganda, the name choice was carefully considered.

A Romanian ethnic German, Artur Phelps, became the division’s first commander. Phelps, former commander of the crack Romanian Mountain Corps, had supported the fascist Iron Guard’s attempted coup in January 1941 and fled to Germany after its bloody suppression.

Phelps’ unit had two regiments, each of three battalions. Many of the cadre came from small SS units established from Volksdeutsche volunteers in Croatia after the German conquest of Yugoslavia in April 1941. The artillery regiment had four battalions, with Czech-made pieces. Most of the infantry weapons also came from Czech sources: The Waffen-SS, at this time still denied full access to German arms makers, depended heavily on the arms factories of occupied Czechoslovakia. The division had a large array of specialist units: a battalion each of motorcyclists, reconnaissance troops, tanks, anti-tank guns, engineers, anti-aicraft guns, bicyclists, cavalry and replacements. Despite having only two regiments, the 7th SS was thus one of the largest German divisions, with over 21,000 men at full strength.

Tanks for the division came from captured French stocks: seven Char B-1 bis heavy tanks, a handful more converted to flamethrowing vehicles, and some R-35 and H-39 light tanks.

The new division was declared combat-ready in Octobver 1942 and sent to western Serbia under command of 12th Army. Most officers and NCOs were Germans from Germany, or Reichsdeutsche. The rank-and-file, almost all Volksdeutsche, were routinely referred to as “Musselmänner” (literally “Muslims,” but also the term used by SS concentration camp guards for starving prisoners soon to die) and scorned as lesser beings.

The division’s marching song, composed by SS Hauptsturmführer Sepp Krombholz, showed that the men knew exactly what their task would be:

Our trash division!
And many Serbian skulls
and many Serbian maids
will I soon see fallen . . .

Phelps sent his troops into their first action on 5 October, an attack against a partisan brigade led by Maj. Dragutin Kreserovic in the mountainous Kreva Reka area. Together with troops of the Bulgarian 9th Infantry Division, the SS men were to seek out and destroy partisan units. In case anyone misunderstood, Phelps noted in his order of the day that, “the entire population of this area must be considered rebel sympathizers.”

The operation failed to net many partisans, but that didn’t stop Himmler himself from visiting the division soon afterwards to dispense medals and promotions.

Throughout the winter the division participated in operations against the partisans, with limited success. While it did participate in the highly successful “Operation Black” in MOntenegro in May 1943, other Axis formations did most of the fighting while the SS men concentrated on their specialty, “punitive expeditions.” Entire villages were exterminated, the buildings burned to the ground, with mass rapes the order of the day as well. In multiple instances, the murders even included all house pets and farm animals. At Niksic, for example, 7th SS troopers systematically raped and then gunned down 121 women. While many Jews were murdered at their hands, the 7th SS also killed huge numbers of Serbs and Gypsies. The more lunatic fringe of today’s Serbia has even cited 7th SS massacres around Srebrenica in 1944 to justify the mass killings there in 1995.

The trash division spent most of 1943 fighting partisans, moving to the Adriatic coast in Spetember to assist in disarming the Italian occupation forces there after Italy’s surrender. Savage fighting broke out in several locations, with the SS men suffering serious defeats at Italian hands.

After suffering repeated defeats at partisan and Italian hands, the division went to the Dubrovnik area for reorganization and retraining. For several months the division attempted to improve itself, re-entering combat in November 1943 with similar results as it hunted partisans in the Sarajevo-Goradze area of Bosnia. Unlike the other SS divisions formed at about this time, the 7th SS did not have pre-war SS Standarten on which to draw for its cadres; the officers supplied by other SS units appear to have been the incompetents and other dregs — and few of the the SS units supplying such officers in 1942 had a surplus of skilled commanders to begin with.

Next, we’ll look at the division’s last two years, including its disastrous commitment to combat against regular Soviet and Bulgarian forces.

In December, 1943, the 7th SS once more was in action against Tito’s forces, and once more, the actions proved less-than-promising.

In January, 1944, the 7th SS Division was transfered to the Split, Dubrovnik area for more training at which time the Division was also reorganized. Prinz Eugen was transfered back to the Bosnia area in March, 1944, and continued its part in anti-partisan operations. In May, 1944, the 7th fough again against Tito’s partisans near Drvar. Next, the Division was moved and fought against Russian and Bulgarian units in August, 1944. At this time, the Division suffered greatly and took a good deal of casualties.

In September, 1944, the Division saw action in what was probably its most important role so far. Prinz Eugen, along with elements of other Waffen SS units helped to hold a vital bridgehead in the Vardar Corridor in Macedonia so as to help 350,000 German soldiers escape from possible encirclement by the advancing Soviets. The 350,000 German soldiers were attempting to move north from occupation duties in the Aegean and Greek regions of the Balkans. Prinz Eugen was badly mauled, but the operation proved to be a success. After helping hold the line in the Vardar corridor, the Division took part in many rear-guard actions resulting in a long retreat from Cacak all the way to Brcko and over the Drina.

In January, 1945, the Division fought partisans near Otok, and later was sent to the area of Vukovar where it fought again against advancing Soviet forces, and Tito’s partisans. From February, 1945 to April, 1945, the Division was in action against the Partisans and the Soviets, finally ending the War in Slovenia and being taken by the Yugoslav government.


Organization General Composition
SS Mountain Infantry Regiment 1
SS Mountain Infantry Regiment 2
SS Motorcycle Battalion
SS Cavalry Battalion
SS Panzer Battalion
SS Mountain Artillery Regiment
SS Engineer Battalion
SS Intelligence Battalion
SS Mountain Jager Replacement Battalion
Supply troops

Later, the following were added:

SS Reconnaissance Battalion
SS Panzerjager Battalion
SS Motorcycle Rifle Battalion
SS Flak Unit

Its final composition was as follows:

SS Volunteer Mountain Jager Regiment 13 “Arthur Phelps”
SS Volunteer Mountain Jager Regiment 14 “Skanderbeg”
SS Volunteer Mountain Artillery Regiment 7
SS Panzer Unit 7
SS Panzer Company
SS Mountain Panzerjager Unit 7
SS Cavalry Unit 7
SS Assault Gun Battery 7
SS Flak Unit 7
SS Flak Company
SS Mountain Intelligence Unit 7
SS Volunteer Mountain Reconnaissance Unit 7 (mot)
SS Panzer Reconnaissance Platoon
SS Cycle Battalion
SS Cycle Reconnaissance Unit 7
SS Mountain Engineer Battalion
SS Mountain Rifle Battlion
SS Supply Company 7
SS Repair Shop Company/Platoon
SS Storekeeping Battalion 7
SS Medical Unit 7
SS Volunteer Mountain Veterinary Company 7
SS Volunteer Mountain Intelligence Platoon 7
SS Propaganda Platoon
SS Field Police Platoon 7
SS Field Replacement Battalion 7
SS Repair Unit 7
SS Geological Battalion


vahauser's comments:
Okay, from what I can tell based on the above article, Prinz Eugen was indeed a 'trash division'. I stand by what I posted in the Directive 21 thread. 70% (untried) is probably doing this division a favor, but since there were worse SS divisions out there (and those divisions are the ones that should get the 60% (untried) proficiencies), then 70% (untried) best fits the existing framework of Directive 21.

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 4:42:38 AM   
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Okay, from what I can tell based on the above article, Prinz Eugen was indeed a 'trash division'. I stand by what I posted in the Directive 21 thread. 70% (untried) is probably doing this division a favor, but since there were worse SS divisions out there (and those divisions are the ones that should get the 60% (untried) proficiencies), then 70% (untried) best fits the existing framework of Directive 21.

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The trash division


I dropped the topic myself because I didn't want to get hooked into defending a formation I don't know all that much about.

Furthermore, WW2 Yugoslavia is an area about which it is almost impossible to get any reasonably balanced comments. Indeed, sometimes it seems everyone is determined to lie as outrageously as possible. At the other extreme from this, I have seen allegations that Prinz Eugen committed no atrocities -- given the nature of the war it was fighting and its ideology, highly unlikely, to say the least.

However, even by these standards, the author of this piece seems unusually hostile; as you note yourself, he has already resorted to 'trash division' half-way through the piece. If men from the division shot his grand-uncle, perhaps I should sympathize, but it doesn't make him a more reliable source.

The subject is not how many or what atrocities Prinz Eugen committed; the bulk of what I have read suggests that -- notwithstanding the allegations retailed above -- Prinz Eugen was a formidable combat force. If you go through the piece and omit everything relating to atrocities, you're left with not much -- except an evident determination to make every derogatory remark that strikes the author as plausible. Indeed, there's not much at all once the atrocity stories are removed -- and what there is sounds remarkably similar to what I have read elsewhere, which hardly suggests that the author is an authority.

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 4:54:02 AM   
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Colin,

I guess what this all boils down to is that there might be no reliable source regarding the true combat effectiveness of Prinz Eugen.  I am tempted to believe the posted article, however, when it states that the division was badly mauled when it faced Soviet combat units in 1944.

Based on conflicting evidence and the possibility that nobody will ever know the 'truth' about this division, then once again I think that a 70% (untried) proficiency fits the Directive 21 framework (since 70% is better than the standard Soviet proficiency of 60%). 

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 5:01:08 AM   
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Colin,

I guess what this all boils down to is that there might be no reliable source regarding the true combat effectiveness of Prinz Eugen.  I am tempted to believe the posted article, however, when it states that the division was badly mauled when it faced Soviet combat units in 1944.


Nu? Who faced the Soviets in 1944 and wasn't mauled? The impression I have is that the formation stayed in the field and proved to be one of the mainstays of the defense. That suggests to me that the division had considerable fighting quality rather than the reverse.

This all started with the suggestion that Prinz Eugen was equivalent to SS Nord. Given SS Nord's incredibly bad performance in its initial baptism of fire, and the evidence that suggests that on the whole Prinz Eugen proved to be an unexpectedly effective combat formation, I felt impelled to disagree.

Aside from everything else, it would be interesting to work out Eugen's TO&E. One of these days (when TOAW allows for scenarios with three-four sides) I'm going to have a go at 1943-44 Yugoslavia.


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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 5:11:01 AM   
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Incidentally, I ran across this: the OOB for some German operation in Yugoslavia in 1943.

"...The German Commander of Troops in Croatia, General Rudolf Lueters, assembled the following formations for the offensive: the 1st German Mountain Division, which had arrived from the Russian front, the German-Croatian 369th "Legion" Infantry Division, the 118th Jaeger Division, the lst Motorized Regiment of the Brandenburg commando formation, and the 7th SS Mountain Divis ion "Prinz Eugen". The Italians assembled the "Taurinense" Infantry Division, the 23rd Infantry Division "Ferrara", and the l9th Infantry Division "Venezia". Other Axis forces available for this offensive included the Croat 4th Jaeger Brigade and the Bulgarian 6lst and 63rd Infantry Regiments...'

Now, 1st Mountain was a crack division, and the original Croat 369th had compiled a fine record in front-line combat on the Eastern Front. The 118th Jaeger sounds like it was a first-line formation. I mention this because of your remarks that the fighting in Yugoslavia wasn't very demanding. Au contraire...

In fact, from what I've read, the above was the usual pattern. For any sort of serious attempt to address the situation, the Germans always had to bring in first-line combat troops. Your usual security divisions and such were just of no offensive value in Yugoslavia -- at any rate, they certainly couldn't carry the main load of any such operation.

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 5:18:32 AM   
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And speaking of an objective source (to the extent that there can be such a thing):

http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/antiguer-ops/AG-BALKAN.HTM#gen9

'German Anti-guerrilla Operations in the Balkans.' Some US Army essay. Off to read it myself.

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 6:30:09 AM   
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Incidentally, I ran across this: the OOB for some German operation in Yugoslavia in 1943.

"...The German Commander of Troops in Croatia, General Rudolf Lueters, assembled the following formations for the offensive: the 1st German Mountain Division, which had arrived from the Russian front, the German-Croatian 369th "Legion" Infantry Division, the 118th Jaeger Division, the lst Motorized Regiment of the Brandenburg commando formation, and the 7th SS Mountain Divis ion "Prinz Eugen". The Italians assembled the "Taurinense" Infantry Division, the 23rd Infantry Division "Ferrara", and the l9th Infantry Division "Venezia". Other Axis forces available for this offensive included the Croat 4th Jaeger Brigade and the Bulgarian 6lst and 63rd Infantry Regiments...'

Now, 1st Mountain was a crack division, and the original Croat 369th had compiled a fine record in front-line combat on the Eastern Front. The 118th Jaeger sounds like it was a first-line formation. I mention this because of your remarks that the fighting in Yugoslavia wasn't very demanding. Au contraire...

In fact, from what I've read, the above was the usual pattern. For any sort of serious attempt to address the situation, the Germans always had to bring in first-line combat troops. Your usual security divisions and such were just of no offensive value in Yugoslavia -- at any rate, they certainly couldn't carry the main load of any such operation.


Okay, I read that US Army essay. Nothing that really illuminated the situation regarding the Prinz Eugen Division.

However, your quote above is somewhat illuminating, although perhaps not in the way you intended:
"For any sort of serious attempt to address the situation, the Germans always had to bring in first-line combat troops. Your usual security divisions and such were just of no offensive value in Yugoslavia -- at any rate, they certainly couldn't carry the main load of any such operation." [my italics]

What this tells me is that the forces on station there were ineffective and that the real combat troops had often to be called in in order to accomplish anything. And, since Prinz Eugen was one of the divisions on station there. . .

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 7:28:07 AM   
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Incidentally, I ran across this: the OOB for some German operation in Yugoslavia in 1943.

"...The German Commander of Troops in Croatia, General Rudolf Lueters, assembled the following formations for the offensive: the 1st German Mountain Division, which had arrived from the Russian front, the German-Croatian 369th "Legion" Infantry Division, the 118th Jaeger Division, the lst Motorized Regiment of the Brandenburg commando formation, and the 7th SS Mountain Divis ion "Prinz Eugen". The Italians assembled the "Taurinense" Infantry Division, the 23rd Infantry Division "Ferrara", and the l9th Infantry Division "Venezia". Other Axis forces available for this offensive included the Croat 4th Jaeger Brigade and the Bulgarian 6lst and 63rd Infantry Regiments...'

Now, 1st Mountain was a crack division, and the original Croat 369th had compiled a fine record in front-line combat on the Eastern Front. The 118th Jaeger sounds like it was a first-line formation. I mention this because of your remarks that the fighting in Yugoslavia wasn't very demanding. Au contraire...

In fact, from what I've read, the above was the usual pattern. For any sort of serious attempt to address the situation, the Germans always had to bring in first-line combat troops. Your usual security divisions and such were just of no offensive value in Yugoslavia -- at any rate, they certainly couldn't carry the main load of any such operation.


Okay, I read that US Army essay. Nothing that really illuminated the situation regarding the Prinz Eugen Division.

However, your quote above is somewhat illuminating, although perhaps not in the way you intended:
"For any sort of serious attempt to address the situation, the Germans always had to bring in first-line combat troops. Your usual security divisions and such were just of no offensive value in Yugoslavia -- at any rate, they certainly couldn't carry the main load of any such operation." [my italics]

What this tells me is that the forces on station there were ineffective and that the real combat troops had often to be called in in order to accomplish anything. And, since Prinz Eugen was one of the divisions on station there. . .


There's a really convincing point. Pretty much settles the argument, I'd say. I take if Prinz Eugen had been worth its salt, it would have pacified all of Yugoslavia on its own. In this connection, it's worth noting that much of the time, Prinz Eugen was the sole mobile division available.

To tell the truth, I (unlike you, apparently) don't feel I know enough to assert anything with any confidence about the combat prowess of Prinz Eugen. The mere fact that it survived as a coherent unit to the end of the war whilst engaged in heavy combat suggests it couldn't have been all that bad...

I am curious about the division. Certainly one of the more unusual formations the Wehrmacht fielded.

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 7:51:05 AM   
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Okay, I read that US Army essay. Nothing that really illuminated the situation regarding the Prinz Eugen Division.


No, but at least it's not so biased as to lose all value. If you spend much time paddling around in this area of the war, you'll discover that's not to be sneezed at.

Somewhere, there is also a German staff study of the same subject. Ironically, it also is one of the more useful works -- if only because the author is primarily interested in the subject simply as a military problem.

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 10:25:07 AM   
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Colin,

Be careful.  You seem to be implying that I have no interest in the truth.  Be careful.

Anyway, if the Prinz Eugen Division had been outstanding in any way, I am confident that that US Army essay would have at least mentioned something along those lines, even in passing.  Perhaps something like, "the formidable 7 SS Mountain Division", or, "the skillful actions of the 7 SS Mountain Division."  Or some such.  That US Army essay did in fact identify what it (the US Army) considered to be skillful Axis combat units.  And the omission of Prinz Eugen among those skillful Axis combat units cited by the US Army does nothing to give me confidence that Prinz Eugen deserves a higher proficiency than the 70% I suggested 24 hours ago.

But you are correct in one sense.  Prinz Eugen fought in a peripheral theater in terms of Directive 21.  It only engaged the Soviets in battle a few times from 1944-45 (and evidently got beat up pretty badly every time), so this whole sideshow might be just another little tempest in a teapot. 

In any event, I'm not emotionally invested one way or the other regarding Prinz Eugen.  There are far more important issues that we could be addressing.

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RE: 7th SS Division Prinz Eugen - 11/1/2008 7:17:23 PM   
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Colin,

Be careful.  You seem to be implying that I have no interest in the truth.  Be careful.


Then I'd best not say nothing. It sounds like I'm running a pretty dire risk here.


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