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RE: When? - 2/11/2009 3:43:24 AM   
Gil R.


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RE: When? - 2/11/2009 7:02:06 PM   
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MrZ did most of the new research this time around, so he might have further recommendations, particularly on the social and economic side of things. For OOBs I know he used many of the papers in the Nafziger Collection:
http://home.fuse.net/nafziger/

I will add a couple, sure.

As a general introduction to the flavor of the period, a good books is Frederick Kagan's The End of the Old Order (Kagan is the son of Donald and the brother of Robert, and helped design the "surge" strategy in Iraq fwiw)

http://www.amazon.com/End-Old-Order-Napoleon-1801-1805/dp/0306811375

http://books.google.com/books?id=XZdjTr7DCcgC&dq=kagan+napoleon&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=kIxImZ-oRp&sig=m5X2BnRfcYFI5J1z239PJUmOgrw&hl=en&ei=Ax6TSb3xDpC8MuetnfsL&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA129,M1


Also good is David Bell's The First Total War:

http://www.amazon.com/End-Old-Order-Napoleon-1801-1805/dp/0306811375


If you want even more specific detail, Nafziger is actually a published author--he wrote one of the definitive histories of the invasion of Russia (out of print, and as you can see from the price it is a highly-valued volume!)

http://www.amazon.com/Napoleons-Invasion-Russia-George-Nafziger/dp/0882546813/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234377560&sr=1-3


Another rather good account of the Russian invasion is Richard Riehn's 1812: Napoleon's Russian Campaign.

http://www.amazon.com/1812-Napoleons-Campaign-Richard-Riehn/dp/0471543020


This next one is considered a classic, though I have not read it--it is actually a memoir by one of Napoleon's aide-de-camps:

http://www.amazon.com/Defeat-Napoleons-Russian-Campaign-Classics/dp/1590172825


For the Spanish campaigns, there is The Spanish Ulcer:

http://www.amazon.com/Spanish-Ulcer-History-Peninsular-War/dp/0306810832


Finally, of course, Tolstoy will give you plenty of flavor:

http://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-Leo-Tolstoy/dp/0307266931


As will Stendhal:

http://www.amazon.com/Charterhouse-Parma-Modern-Library-Classics/dp/0679783180


And, in her own way, Austen:

http://www.amazon.com/Persuasion-Penguin-Classics-Jane-Austen/dp/0141439688


Do not assume that I have completed reading all of the above novels, however ;)

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RE: When? - 2/12/2009 1:21:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gil R.

You certainly get free patches!


You think this game will need patches ?? I thought it would be perfect on release. We don't need no stinking patches.

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RE: When? - 2/12/2009 1:56:02 AM   
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as a tester, we try to do and check everything, but nothing says, the players are going to do everything the same way we do

there may be simple things we don't see, or there may be complex things that we never tried

and I have to say, Eric is one of the best, at reacting to anything we find that we think is wrong


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RE: When? - 2/12/2009 3:16:39 AM   
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Hey! It turns out that that quote has a Wikipedia page! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges

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RE: When? - 2/12/2009 3:39:07 AM   
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Badgers?  Badgers?  We dont need no stinking Badgers!!!

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RE: When? - 2/12/2009 11:00:09 AM   
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Camera pans to the supply closet and out jumps and Oriental guy sceaming "Supplies!!!".

Or what about little Johnny drinking from the fire hose?

Classic!


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Prefer UHF myself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKIAn2UlAX4



Badgers?  Badgers?  We dont need no stinking Badgers!!!


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RE: When? - 2/16/2009 5:28:27 AM   
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RE: When? - 2/16/2009 10:58:09 AM   
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Anyone know if CoG EE can be pre-ordered?

I would hate to miss the release date by a few hours and find all those Goodfolk over the Pond had snaffled all the initial release.

All the Best
Peter

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RE: When? - 2/16/2009 11:22:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheOx
Still no news on release?


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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

We should have a projected release date (somewhere in Gil's range, between end of February and early March) for you guys by the end of the week, with any luck.


this not quite giving you the info you need?

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RE: When? - 2/16/2009 2:47:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kingmaker

HiHi

Anyone know if CoG EE can be pre-ordered?

I would hate to miss the release date by a few hours and find all those Goodfolk over the Pond had snaffled all the initial release.

All the Best
Peter


No pre-order available Pete. I think those of us on this side of the pond won't grab all the bandwidth! Chances are, we will be asleep during the release!

SoM

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RE: When? - 2/16/2009 5:05:08 PM   
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I think those of us on this side of the pond won't grab all the bandwidth! Chances are, we will be asleep during the release!

SoM


Upside is, that transfer rates for us are higher past 03.00 PST.

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RE: When? - 2/16/2009 10:34:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

We should have a projected release date (somewhere in Gil's range, between end of February and early March) for you guys by the end of the week, with any luck.


we are waiting for that projected release that...


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RE: When? - 2/17/2009 9:34:26 AM   
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SoM, Lutzow,

Looks like a sleepless night then come release date

All the Best
Peter

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RE: When? - 2/17/2009 6:41:58 PM   
Gil R.


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RE: When? - 2/20/2009 5:31:36 AM   
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RE: When? - 2/20/2009 12:23:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Missouri Rebel
BTW...Is it ready yet?

Mo Reb
Someone who has a lot of patience that is beginning to wane.




You should be in the World in Flames crowd.

CWIF (computer WIF) beta came out in 1996 or so. The Matrix version is supposed to be out mid-year.

Have some patience, young paduwan...




Oh and Sherman and Grant were awesome!
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RE: When? - 2/20/2009 12:27:43 PM   
iamspamus

 

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ORIGINAL: Gil R.

The game is in pretty good shape, but it looks like there are still one or two kinks to work out. Here's one I discovered tonight. (I never knew that the British navy's secret weapon was seahorses. Makes the U.S. Navy's dolphin program look quite backwards...)


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RE: When? - 2/20/2009 6:10:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		No date has been set, but we're very close. We're about to test a new build that could become the gold version, unless a new bug or OOB problem is found. Stay tuned...

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RE: When? - 2/21/2009 1:59:57 AM   
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RE: When? - 2/21/2009 11:59:52 AM   
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SoM


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RE: When? - 2/21/2009 5:02:23 PM   
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