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RE: pilots - 6/3/2009 12:14:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		" In effect, if you were to cut out the 75% of the movie that was bad, and focus on the 25% that was 'good,' couldn't you at least acknowledge that it had some merits? "

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RE: pilots - 6/3/2009 12:15:17 AM   
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Oh come on you curmudgeons; you tellin' me you found ZERO value in the computer-generated attack scenes? Those were pretty dramatic, and ain't no past flicks gonna compare on that basis. The battle scenes and special effects in Tora! Tora! Tora!, and Midway and any other 'better' movie about the era, quite frankly _suck_ by modern standards. Not only that, but characters and acting, and plots in most of the older movies of the war in the Pacific are also _highly_ cheesy, although I admit that this one took the Big Cheese award . . .

I will agree with you that a serious story, without so many extreme acts of 'artistic license,' the unrealistic concentration of heroism in the few main characters, the overuse of standard war-movie cliches, the excessive Rah! Rah! pro-America-rhetoric, etc., would have improved it tremendously. Indeed, its shortcomings in these areas make it an overall low-rater in my books. But if you skip these points of technical/political inaccuracy, and only focus on: (a) the cutesy inter-character dynamics (yes, even including the romances) which, if cheesy are no less unbelievable than any other cutesy inter-character dynamics in any other movie ever made about Americans during WWII; (b) the CGI battle stuff; and (c) hottie nurse, as well as just plain old (d) imagery of people, places and machines of the era provided with a high-budget modern cinematographic view--for what it is worth, then its not _so_ terrible, now is it? In effect, if you were to cut out the 75% of the movie that was bad, and focus on the 25% that was 'good,' couldn't you at least acknowledge that it had some merits?

you mean like the scenes that they have pearl harbor layed out wrong. or the blowing up of kidd class destroyers from the 70s and expecting us to believe they were ww2 ships. that movie has absolutly no redeaming value what so ever. i would make a personal attack at you for liking it but i might get banned.

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RE: pilots - 6/3/2009 12:16:37 AM   
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Does it matter if they are bomber or fighter pilots?


In WitP a pilot is a pilot. Only thing that really matters is experience. And with a few notable exceptions once a pilot is assigned, thats where he is. You arent putting P-40 pilots in B-25s flying off carriers as a movie would have you believe

why do you have to bring up the movie that shall not be nammed just for that no ae for you.


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The only thing I have noticed about pilots and Air Squadron commanders is that the AI (at least in WitP) has a marked tendency to get their strengths utterly confused. Pilots best at Patrol Squadrons commanding Fighter Squadrons, best at Fighter Squadrons command Bomber squadrons, etc., etc., etc. (with apologies to Yul Brenner!) We ought to be given a couple of thousand PPs just to straighten that clusterflop out.

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RE: pilots - 6/3/2009 12:36:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, not all of us are experts, which makes it a lot easier for us to be satisfied with a movie  but yeah, if you are a true WW2 expert who notices major glitches like that, I suppose it might be totally unpalatable.

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