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RE: "First Internet" the "key" to W... - 6/12/2009 4:28:57 PM   
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The battle of Britain was won because Britain is an island 
Otherwise, Britain will have follow the fate of Poland, Holland and so on...

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RE: "First Internet" the "key" to W... - 6/13/2009 1:13:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl


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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

the Vic was a bad formation, the 2 wingmen spent too much time trying to stay in place, the RAF also set up a weaver, some one who flew back and forth over a squadron in flight, the weavers got shot down alot, with out anybody ever knowing it, think it took until 1942 for this idea to finally be dropped


The Japanese were still flying it in 1942....



sure, but that don't mean it was good or not, it was there style, in there Vic, the leader was all, the two wingmen only job was to protect the leader, in the RAF system, they needed to attack and have all attack, plus I am sure the the vic they flew was not the same as the RAF verison of it

also, you can not really compare the ETO and the PTO for tactics, the JP pilots tended to go against every rule in the book, that the Germen, English, US and Russian pilots learned, they flew low, they flew slow, they tried to let the other guy attack them (which were all strengths of there planes) once the Allies learned not to fight on there terms, but on there own, things started going downhill



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RE: "First Internet" the "key" to W... - 6/13/2009 1:16:34 PM   
Hard Sarge


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ORIGINAL: pasternakski


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ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Not sure the best forum to put this on on Matrix . . . I know there is some Battle of Britain type game in development,

Why put it here? This forum is clearly titled "War in the Pacific," which is a game. You obviously don't want to talk about a game, as you immediately start wandering off in some ostensibly history-related direction.

So take it to the "General Discussion" forum.

Oh. If you're looking for a forum about a Battle of Britain game in development, try going to the "Games in Development" category and check out the one called "Battle of Britain."



Funny, I thought he put it here, because he thought there were some smart people here would be able to talk about the subject and maybe he could learn some new veiws about it, I guess in some cases, he was wrong, oh well

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RE: "First Internet" the "key" to W... - 6/13/2009 2:00:33 PM   
Hard Sarge


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towards the end of the war, the LW went back to the 3 plane formation with the 262's, it was too HARD to fly the finger four with them, and they were not as worried about spotting the enemy that the four allowed

(I know the name, it just don't want to pop into my head !!!) (Kette that is it)

the English were able to keep up there production and keep there fighter numbers good, but, the man in charge of production, in a odd sense, he is seen as saving Fighter Command, and also as almost ruining it, the changes he made, allowed them to rush fighters though production, but ruined production for the long haul, and he was kicked out and replaced and the production system was redone

along those lines, enough pressure could of broken the readyness numbers the English had, most of the English Fighter Factories were close to the coast

it was the pilots that were the weak link, there are 2936 pilots listed on the monument of the Battle of Britain

if it had been a wholy English battle, they would of lost it,

there were
149 Poles
110 NewZealanders
93 Canadians
90 Czech
29 Belgians
25 Aussies
19 South Africans
14 French
13 Yanks
10 Irish
and even 1 from Jamaica and Palestine

(my numbers for Rhodesis are screwed up)

some of those would be seen as CW, or flying for another country (Yanks flew as Canadians, info on French and Belgians were kept quiet)

one area that was odd, the High Command wanted to rest and rotate there Squadrons, pilots needed rest, but after a bit, it was noticed, it was better to keep a "old" squadron in line, even if shot up, then to bring a rested one in and replace it

most rested squadrons got shot apart with in a few days, while the old hands, just kept on going, soon squadrons were relabelled, A/B and C

so you started to pull pilots out of squadrons and send them into new ones as replacements, FAA, CC and BC were all stripped of pilots who it was thought could fly fighters

the pilots were the key


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