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Can't add AC to airgroups on CVs - 8/19/2009 3:32:39 PM   
DrewMatrix


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This is from the "What are all the requrements to add AC to a carrier air group?" thread. I can't add AC to an air group on a CV and don't see why.

I have for example TF 56 docked in Sydney (port large enough to dock CVs). Sydney has 193,602 supply.

Look at VF-3 on the Saratoga. Max AC is 27. Air group has 25 and there are 14 in the pool but I can't add more.
Or VB-3 on Saratoga. Max AC is 18, 12 in group, 22 in pool but again can't add more.

I have "replacements off" because I don't want the program to automatically add AC (I want to pick where they go). Is that the problem? Earlier in the turn (I can send that file too if it helps) I could add some AC but after adding a few I couldn't add more.

If I click "replacements on" I get "replacements delayed". If I run one turn I still can't add to this group.

Is this a) me not seeing what to do b) because the TF is docked way over in Sydney but the TF is assigned to the Pacific Fleet (which is currently in Pearl) c) something else <G>

Thanks in advance

Drew Sullivan


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RE: Can't add AC to airgroups on CVs - 8/19/2009 3:54:13 PM   
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VF-3 shows "Replacements delayed 7 days". You must have taken replacements this turn.
Also maximum number of replacements per replacement is 12 which seems to be the number being serviced(maint).





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RE: Can't add AC to airgroups on CVs - 8/19/2009 4:04:05 PM   
DrewMatrix


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Correct. VF-3 took some replacements that turn, but stopped at 25. That explains VF-3

What about VB-3? That didn't take replacements this turn, but VF-3 on the same ship did. Is the 12 maximum per ship rather than per air group?

While we are discussing this: For Carrier Trained AC I seem to have to be docked to take on replacements. I thought one could fly out replacements if the Air Combat Group was in range or is that incorrect?

Thanks again

(If you are in Sydney then this should be easy for you to sort out. TF 56 is right there, at dock in the harbor. You can probably see them out your window. Just drop by and ask them what the trouble is <G>)




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RE: Can't add AC to airgroups on CVs - 8/19/2009 4:29:54 PM   
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VB-3 shows a 5-day delay before taking more replacements when replacements are toggled. So they must have taken some 2 turns before.

Max of 12 is per group.

The ship needs to be in a friendly base, either disbanded or in a TF.

I have a nice view down to the harbor from my office, but can't see the TF. They're probably hiding in one of the coves.



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RE: Can't add AC to airgroups on CVs - 8/19/2009 6:41:05 PM   
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I had a similar problem in early 1942 with three CVs in Brisbane.  I got around it by disbanding the TF, went into each ship individually and added planes, after building up my pool by withdrawaling Marine Fighters on the West Coast - it had been kinda rough up around Port Moresby for a week prior.  Almost sent the Carrier TF down to Sydney first, but decided to disband/rebuild at Brisbane first.

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RE: Can't add AC to airgroups on CVs - 8/19/2009 6:43:30 PM   
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I am trying to figure out why I can add pilots to a US carrier in the middle of the ocean.

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RE: Can't add AC to airgroups on CVs - 8/20/2009 11:39:40 AM   
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I am trying to figure out why I can add pilots to a US carrier in the middle of the ocean.


It is assumed that the CV is carrying a full complement of pilots.
It was discussed about not allowing pilot replacement at sea, but the downside of this would be that players would need to ensure that they filled up their CV groups before it left port.

And as most players like to turn off a/c replacements, there would most likely be rash of 'bug' reports when a carrier gets sunk because there was no one to fly the planes.

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