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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 2:59:49 PM   
seydlitz_slith


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Turn 31, January 6, 1942.

Yet again, I have failed to totally destroy the 111th region fortress in hex 113,43. It is holding up the advance of my large force. My opponnent sent some armored units into the hex, pushing the odds down to 4 to 1 but I defeat them and yet again all units retreat except for the fortress unit. I am glad that the Chinese do not have any of these fortress units.

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Ground combat at 113,43

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26314 troops, 594 guns, 623 vehicles, Assault Value = 3846

Defending force 6776 troops, 81 guns, 467 vehicles, Assault Value = 271

Japanese adjusted assault: 88

Allied adjusted defense: 22

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 79 destroyed, 97 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (2 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 233 (119 destroyed, 114 disabled)
Units retreated 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:...
27th Electric Engineer Regiment...
3rd Tank Regiment...
57th Division...
5th Tank Regiment...
2nd Manchukuo Distr Division...
24th Division...
9th Division...
8th Recon Regiment...
9th Tank Regiment...
4th Garrison Unit ...
25th Division...
10th Tank Regiment...
11th Tank Regiment...
5th Infantry Regiment...
9th Garrison Unit ...
12th Division...
11th Division...
74th Infantry Regiment...
1st Manchukuo Division...
6th RF Gun Battalion...
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment...
54th Field AA Battalion...
24th Fld AA Machinecannon Company...
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion...
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment...
5th Army...
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
22nd Field AA Machinecannon Company...
28th Field AA Machinecannon Company...
22nd Ind. Engineer Regiment...
4th RF Gun Battalion...
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment...
22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
45th Ind.AA Gun Co ...
27th Fld AA Machinecannon Company...
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion...
23rd Field AA Machinecannon Company...
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion...
45th Road Const Co ...
20th Fld AA Machinecannon Company...
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment...
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment...
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion...
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion...
4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment...
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion...
Kwantung Army...
3rd Army...
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment...
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion...
53rd Field AA Battalion...
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion...
2nd JAAF Base Force...
...
Defending units:...
77th Tank Brigade...
75th Tank Brigade...
111th Region Fortress...

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 3:08:57 PM   
seydlitz_slith


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On the air war, I kept my bombers out of the sky during the day again, allowing them to heal up while my fighters try to whittle down his fighter force. I also notice a distinct increase in his offensive air operations during the turn.

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Morning Air attack on 9th Division, at 113,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 19



Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 6
I-153 x 2
I-16m24 x 4
SB-2 x 24


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
24 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 126,43

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 8



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 12
SB-2 x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
E Tsuta
xAP Hikawa Maru
TB Hayabusa
AK Tosan Maru



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
6 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 57th Division, at 113,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 7



Allied aircraft
Mig-3 x 6
TB-3 x 13


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TB-3: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
13 x TB-3 bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 126,43

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 1



Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Hakozaki Maru
TB Hayabusa



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2 bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Kotou , at 116,42

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 31



Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 9
I-153 x 8
DB-3M x 24
Mig-3 x 7
SB-2 x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
DB-3M: 2 damaged
SB-2: 2 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb
1 x I-15bis sweeping at 10000 feet
12 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb
13 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
4 x I-15bis sweeping at 10000 feet
2 x Mig-3 sweeping at 15000 feet
2 x I-153 sweeping at 20000 feet *
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 126,43

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 6



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 10
SB-2 x 13


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
TB Hiyodori
DD Shirakumo
E Tsuta



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
6 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 19th Division, at 108,29

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 1



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 3
DB-3M x 22


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
22 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 5 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Kotou , at 116,42

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 17



Allied aircraft
TB-3 x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TB-3: 3 damaged



Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x TB-3 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 126,43

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 3



Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shirakumo



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2 bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 100 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Engineer Regiment, at 141,44 (Petropavlovsk)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes


Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 4
I-16m24 x 16
SB-2 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB-2 bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb






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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 3:10:56 PM   
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At Cam Ranh Bay, his marauding Catalinas bombed and sank one of my precious tankers.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes


Allied aircraft
PBY-4 Catalina x 3


Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
TK Goyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PBY-4 Catalina bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Goyo Maru caught transferring cargo ......






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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 3:12:17 PM   
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Here is an overview of the strategic weather picture. I need better flying weather to be effective up north, and that won't happen until March.






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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 3:13:57 PM   
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Finally, here is a picture of the strategic map showing where my units are located on Jan 6, 1942






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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 3:49:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: seydlitz


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

If it's static unit, it cannot retreat, only surrender or get annihilated. If it passes experience and leadership checks against surrender, you'll have to attack until it does not or is annihilated.


If this is not a bug, then the fact that you quote must be what the problem is. I also share your thought and that is why I haven't turned in a bug report yet, but I am starting to wonder. You would think that the unit would die.



it´s just the same as it always was in WITP. Static units or units outside of a base without a retreat path take forever to kill off. Just keep on attacking, you´re inflicting horrendous losses anyway.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 4:00:44 PM   
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Drop a para company on it and it will fall like Eben did in belgium

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 9:24:11 PM   
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I have been catching up with latest news this afternoon. As said on the other thread very good AAR.

Personally going to use a lot of info when I get around to start my training campaign with Allied AI.

The russian campaign seems to be heating up nicely. I hope you are aware that russians recieve quite a few solid ground combat units in february/march time frame? I do not have the game loaded but I think it around 1000av points with solid artillery/armour.

I mean these guys can really hurt your troops.

Oh, those static fortress units are stubborn. Keep on hitting it few more times and it will vanish. Dave encountered few of them on our previous game with witp and had the same results.

Very intresting to see whether you can cut the southern part (vladivostok area) and thus start the push towards north. I mean if isolated it is same as death sentence. I would assume your opponent will start pulling units out if he notice this.

Eventhough you might not have killed 1000 aircraft here I think the airwar has been on your side so far.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/19/2009 9:38:28 PM   
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Thanks for the comments Aztez.

I dread the arrival of his reinforcements, but I figure that with my units moving northward I can tie them up for quite a while. As long as I can keep them from taking the train to the Vladivostok front then I should be able to finish off south, then roll up the rail line to the north. I have already penetrated the rail line with a stack of units north of the swamp.

He has seen this and I already see the reaction as he is sending troops west from his mid-coastal areas. I am pretty sure that he is worried that I am going to cut off his supply, which is exactly what I want to do.

I am going to take some time when I get the turn back to troll through my units and leaders and get those sorted out. Ketza is right to a degree...I am getting sloppy and have units from different commands working together in the same hex. There are three different commands in Korea at start (Kwangtung, 4th fleet, 5th fleet) and I need to straighten these out for the coming combat.

Beyond that, I think that I am going to recover my air units and lower the tempo with them until I get a turn with a favorable weather forecast in the region. Then I will hammer him as hard as I can.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 4:48:24 AM   
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Turn 32, Jan 7, 1942..............

The turn started off with my standard nightly air raids on Vladivostok port and other Russian facilities. You may not kill as much, but you do inflict some damage with a much lower risk to the bombers. This should help me continue to gain experience for the crews without worrying about high loss rates or lack of fighter escort.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 07, 42
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Night Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet....
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes...


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Night Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
7 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet....
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes...


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Night Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Tblisi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires second turn in a row I have hit this DD
SS ShCh-105, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet....
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes...

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When the sun rose, my fighter sweeps began.....
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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 7
I-16m24 x 19


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-16m24: 6 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
20 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 111th Region Fortress, at 113,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 1


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 2
I-16m24 x 1


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-16m24: 1 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rybolov , at 113,44

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44 Tojo x 7



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44 Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on 111th Region Fortress, at 113,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14



Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 3
I-153 x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
I-153: 4 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 16000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Vladivostok , at 112,46

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 10
I-16m24 x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 2 destroyed



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar sweeping at 14000 feet

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Even though he did conduct some bombing missions, my fighters were often there, chipping away at his fighters.
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Morning Air attack on Kotou , at 116,42

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 5
I-16m24 x 6
DB-3M x 23
SB-2 x 42


Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
18 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb
20 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
5 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb


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Morning Air attack on 19th Division, at 108,29

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 1



Allied aircraft
I-153 x 5
DB-3M x 23


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
23 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 5 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Kotou , at 116,42

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 2
DB-3M x 15


Allied aircraft losses
DB-3M: 3 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x DB-3M bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Kotou , at 116,42

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes


Allied aircraft
I-153 x 8
TB-3 x 12


Allied aircraft losses
TB-3: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged



Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x TB-3 bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 57th Division, at 113,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11



Allied aircraft
Mig-3 x 4


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Mig-3: 1 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on 57th Division, at 113,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10



Allied aircraft
I-15bis x 5
I-153 x 6
I-16m24 x 1
SB-2 x 18


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
I-15bis: 1 destroyed
I-153: 2 destroyed
SB-2: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)



Aircraft Attacking:
17 x SB-2 bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 25th Division, at 113,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5



Allied aircraft
TB-3 x 8


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TB-3: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TB-3 bombing from 8000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb


Always good when you intercept these beasts...





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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 4:50:14 AM   
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As you can see, aircraft losses were heavily in my favor for the turn.





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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 4:53:48 AM   
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Down south, those pesky Catalinas flying out of the Philippines continued to wreak havoc all out of proportion to their expected threat level.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 74,85

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
PBY-4 Catalina x 3


Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PBY-4 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Banggi at 69,85

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
PBY-4 Catalina x 2


Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Sado Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PBY-4 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo






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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 4:55:51 AM   
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Here is the ships sunk log for the turn.




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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 5:00:58 AM   
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Then came the land phase. I made yet another assault on the regional fortress and finally won. Good thing when you look at the odds....
3057 to 1
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Ground combat at 113,43

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 141966 troops, 1397 guns, 1485 vehicles, Assault Value = 3847

Defending force 80 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Japanese adjusted assault: 3057

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3057 to 1

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Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 60 (47 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Units destroyed 1





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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 5:03:09 AM   
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In North China, I pushed the enemy out of one of the hexes east of SIAN.

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Ground combat at 87,41

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27051 troops, 243 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 770

Defending force 7050 troops, 61 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Japanese adjusted assault: 702

Allied adjusted defense: 82

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
291 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled


Allied ground losses:
3084 casualties reported
Squads: 118 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 119 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (5 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 3


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:...
37th Division...
41st Division...
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment...
...
Defending units:...
43rd Chinese Corps...
61st Chinese Corps...
8th Group Army...





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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 5:04:46 AM   
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Now a quick tour of the fronts.
Russian front first.





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North China





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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 5:07:06 AM   
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Mongolia..... See my advance north continuing....






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South China...
doing bombardment attacks at Changsha while I pull down my disruption and fatigue. I will probably attack there in two turns.






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In the Philippines, I am bombarding at Clark while I remove fatigue and disruption. Attacks there in two turns.
Clark I will attack next turn.






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In Malaya we continue to plod forward. Still a few days from any real combat.






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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 5:13:44 AM   
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The weather looks better next turn, so hopefully I will be able to get some concentrated air attacks in and attrit more of his air force in Russia.






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Finally, my ops report brought news that we have had an advance in research on one of our engine projects.






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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 8:40:14 AM   
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Those Russian bases on the Railway line look very tempting for an airborne operation when your "Northern Force" gets close.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 9:01:08 AM   
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Seydlitz, you should give house rules a try for the PBY. They seem completely broken to me, we have a discussion about that on the forum right now. I mean, they sound like better than harpoon missiles till now, which is completely out of proportions considering their crew's naval rating and their actual use. Black Cats are nice, but yours are just Patrol PBY rushed into naval use without radar, while still hitting with a better accuracy at 6000 feet than a Mitchell crew. I bet they even fly drunk just to add injury to insult.

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How is your supply in yor unit(s) advancing Ulan Bator?

Great AAR.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 2:07:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bklooste

Those Russian bases on the Railway line look very tempting for an airborne operation when your "Northern Force" gets close.

Yes they do. However I anticipate using all of my airborne units down south for the next three months. One unit is currently enroute to Miri so that I can drop then in at Tarakan, and the other two are on Luzon.

I also wonder what type of garrisons are stationed at those railway outposts. So far there have been experienced Russians behind every tree.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 2:14:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

Seydlitz, you should give house rules a try for the PBY. They seem completely broken to me, we have a discussion about that on the forum right now. I mean, they sound like better than harpoon missiles till now, which is completely out of proportions considering their crew's naval rating and their actual use. Black Cats are nice, but yours are just Patrol PBY rushed into naval use without radar, while still hitting with a better accuracy at 6000 feet than a Mitchell crew. I bet they even fly drunk just to add injury to insult.


I will let him have his moment of glory and take the PBYs out by eliminating their base or shooting them down. I think that he needs to spend the points to pull them out if he is able, then pin medals on their chest.

I wouldn't doubt that those planes are being flown by John Wayne, Cary Grant, and Van Johnson.

I admit that I am in envy because I never could get my patrols to do anything like that. He must have a leader with an aggressive rating of 99 and inspiration of 70+ to get them to fly these missions.


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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 2:24:07 PM   
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How is your supply in yor unit(s) advancing Ulan Bator?

Great AAR.


Haven't checked it lately but will do so next turn. I should be ok since I am advancing along widened goat paths. This will be a concern after I get up north, however.

Thanks for bringing it up.

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RE: Nomonhan Redux: Seydlitz (Japan) vs. MBatch729 (All... - 9/20/2009 10:24:20 PM   
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Oh my, the Mongolian capital city is doomed.

It looks like that region fortress was not only static, everyone in it was staked to the ground! Well, at least you are through that now and can continue the advance. Plus, all the other static forts will just sit there on the border doing nothing while you attack behind them.

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