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Blind/drunk observers? - 10/23/2009 9:12:49 PM   
Puhis


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Status: offline 		Day time surface combat, distance 1000 yards....
The result seems to be OK... Japanese torpedoes did not find target even when there was the mighty Oi, but these things happen...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Adak Island at 163,50, Range 1,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1
BB Hyuga
CL Oi, Shell hits 1
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 2
DD Wakaba
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
CL Detroit, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Concord, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DD Phelps, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
DD Barker, Shell hits 3, and is sunk



Reduced visibility due to Rain...
Maximum visibility in Rain: 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards......
Range closes to 18,000 yards......
Range closes to 12,000 yards......
Range closes to 6,000 yards......
Range closes to 1,000 yards......
CL Oi engages CL Concord at 1,000 yards...
CL Concord sunk by BB Ise at 1,000 yards...
Range increases to 2,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 2,000 yards...
CL Detroit engages BB Ise at 2,000 yards...
DD Phelps sunk by BB Ise at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 5,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 5,000 yards...
BB Ise engages DD Barker at 5,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 5,000 yards...
DD Barker engages DD Wakaba at 5,000 yards...
DD Barker engages DD Suzukaze at 5,000 yards...
Dawley, A.L. orders Allied TF to disengage...
Range increases to 7,000 yards...
CL Detroit engages BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 7,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 7,000 yards...
DD Barker engages DD Wakaba at 7,000 yards...
DD Suzukaze engages DD Barker at 7,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 12,000 yards...
DD Barker sunk by BB Ise at 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 15,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
DD Wakaba engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
Range increases to 18,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 18,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 18,000 yards...
Range increases to 21,000 yards...
Range increases to 23,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 23,000 yards...
Range increases to 26,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 26,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 26,000 yards...
Range increases to 28,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 28,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 28,000 yards...
Task forces break off......

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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/23/2009 10:35:45 PM   
stldiver


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Puhis

Day time surface combat, distance 1000 yards....
The result seems to be OK... Japanese torpedoes did not find target even when there was the mighty Oi, but these things happen...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Adak Island at 163,50, Range 1,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1
BB Hyuga
CL Oi, Shell hits 1
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 2
DD Wakaba
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
CL Detroit, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Concord, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DD Phelps, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
DD Barker, Shell hits 3, and is sunk



Reduced visibility due to Rain...
Maximum visibility in Rain: 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards......
Range closes to 18,000 yards......
Range closes to 12,000 yards......
Range closes to 6,000 yards......
Range closes to 1,000 yards......
CL Oi engages CL Concord at 1,000 yards...
CL Concord sunk by BB Ise at 1,000 yards...
Range increases to 2,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 2,000 yards...
CL Detroit engages BB Ise at 2,000 yards...
DD Phelps sunk by BB Ise at 2,000 yards...
Range increases to 5,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 5,000 yards...
BB Ise engages DD Barker at 5,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 5,000 yards...
DD Barker engages DD Wakaba at 5,000 yards...
DD Barker engages DD Suzukaze at 5,000 yards...
Dawley, A.L. orders Allied TF to disengage...
Range increases to 7,000 yards...
CL Detroit engages BB Hyuga at 7,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 7,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 7,000 yards...
DD Barker engages DD Wakaba at 7,000 yards...
DD Suzukaze engages DD Barker at 7,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 12,000 yards...
DD Barker sunk by BB Ise at 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 15,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
DD Wakaba engages CL Detroit at 15,000 yards...
Range increases to 18,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 18,000 yards...
CL Oi engages CL Detroit at 18,000 yards...
Range increases to 21,000 yards...
Range increases to 23,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 23,000 yards...
Range increases to 26,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 26,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 26,000 yards...
Range increases to 28,000 yards...
BB Hyuga engages CL Detroit at 28,000 yards...
BB Ise engages CL Detroit at 28,000 yards...
Task forces break off......

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Reduced visibility due to rain. It was fought in a cloudburst

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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/24/2009 12:32:37 AM   
RevRick


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Status: offline 		What I love are the Nelsonian tactics - if they can be called tactics.

Sir, ship sighted 14,000 yards...
Very well. Hold your fire until range is 1000 yards...
Aye, Sir.

Ah...
"No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy."

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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/24/2009 2:57:42 AM   
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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/24/2009 5:04:08 AM   
Kull


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RevRick

What I love are the Nelsonian tactics - if they can be called tactics.

Sir, ship sighted 14,000 yards...
Very well. Hold your fire until range is 1000 yards...
Aye, Sir.

Ah...
"No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy."


Fan of Patrick O'Brian Rev? If you haven't read the Jack Aubrey series, buckle in. You can smell the cordite and feel the salt spray on your face. Hell of a ride.

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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/24/2009 10:08:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RevRick

What I love are the Nelsonian tactics - if they can be called tactics.

Sir, ship sighted 14,000 yards...
Very well. Hold your fire until range is 1000 yards...
Aye, Sir.

Ah...
"No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy."


Neither TF spotted the other at 14,000 yds.

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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/24/2009 11:29:25 AM   
Reg


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But they maintained visibility out to 28,000 yards on disengagement!!

Must have been a hell of a rain squall.......



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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/24/2009 2:33:31 PM   
JohnDillworth


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Status: offline 		What was the propellant used in the torpedos. Don't know about the Japaneses torps but some modes were powered by alcohol. So, they might have drank the alcohol from the torpedoes rendering them blind and the torpedoes inoperable. This clearly explains the combat result. Wow, this game has everything!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_juice

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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/25/2009 10:05:48 AM   
Sonny II

 

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ORIGINAL: Reg


But they maintained visibility out to 28,000 yards on disengagement!!

Must have been a hell of a rain squall.......




Yes, once spotted they are easier to keep track of - especially if some of them are on fire.

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RE: Blind/drunk observers? - 10/25/2009 11:50:22 AM   
Mike Scholl

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Reg

Must have been a hell of a rain squall.......




I believe the correct term for that rain squall is MONSOON!

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