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RE: Tactics against allied Subs? - 11/25/2009 1:28:04 AM

EUBanana

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Clearly Allied ASW technique, tactics, and equipment were several magnitudes better than anything managed by the Japanese.

True, but IIRC, the U-boats were really mastered quite late into the war, when there were plenty of escort carriers and destroyers aplenty, sufficient to prosecute any contact relentlessly. So, 1944 or so.

I imagine if you look at U-boats lost over the whole war, 1944-1945 skews the statistics.

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RE: Tactics against allied Subs? - 11/25/2009 2:28:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
Clearly Allied ASW technique, tactics, and equipment were several magnitudes better than anything managed by the Japanese.

True, but IIRC, the U-boats were really mastered quite late into the war, when there were plenty of escort carriers and destroyers aplenty, sufficient to prosecute any contact relentlessly. So, 1944 or so.

I imagine if you look at U-boats lost over the whole war, 1944-1945 skews the statistics.

IIRC, the Kriegsmarine had a pretty black mid 1943 (May, June) too.

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RE: Tactics against allied Subs? - 11/25/2009 2:28:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana

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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
Clearly Allied ASW technique, tactics, and equipment were several magnitudes better than anything managed by the Japanese.

True, but IIRC, the U-boats were really mastered quite late into the war, when there were plenty of escort carriers and destroyers aplenty, sufficient to prosecute any contact relentlessly. So, 1944 or so.

I imagine if you look at U-boats lost over the whole war, 1944-1945 skews the statistics.

Actually, U-Boat losses started rising in the second half of 1942. Per year losses were:

1940......23 boats lost
1941......35 boats lost
1942......86 boats lost
1943.....236 boats lost
1944.....237 boats lost

So your "skew" begins in 1943, not 1944 (I'm only showing full years). The War in the Pacific pretty much begins with 1942, when it's pretty obvious that Allied ASW is "on the rise". By 1943 it was already quite deadly.

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