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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 1/24/2012 10:35:53 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Lots of ordnance dropped on Port Blair but we're still unloading troops and supplies.
I have merged a new large division in Singapore and all routed divisions have been rebuilt.
Our reserves are ready and new units are being shipped out constantly.

Biggest concern is that vast pilot reserve pool; it draws on HE reserves that go down each month.
Down to 650k and counting.

At least we know were ALL enemy carriers are; Line Islands

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 16, 44


Enemy Car Divs

I counted something like 10 CV, 10 CVL and 30 CVEs in the visible stacks on the map here.
Much as expected, Central Pacific is enemy Pri 1. This means amph landings in Andamans and SRA regions are not likely.





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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 1/24/2012 10:43:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		PzB, are you aware of the discussion which has uncovered the 200 firing pass limit vs bombers?

I'm asking because based on what that discussion has uncovered that CV gathering may actually be a lot more vulnerable than you think ( given the massive numbers involved in later-war battles ).

Of course this works both ways and goes a long way to explaining why four-engined bomber losses are often so low when used en masse.

< Message edited by Nemo121 -- 1/24/2012 10:44:32 PM >

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 1/24/2012 10:50:49 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Looking ahead

August 45 it's Stalin time!
- I'm already looking ahead planning optimal defensive deployment.

Since China is quiet area this region will not be touched; I'm going to honor that agreement by keeping the bulk of China troops in theater.
How many divisions in China do you think should remain there even when Russians invade? A certain paid release of troops to the east like in real life should be expected.

In Manchukuo I'm going to quickly fall back to a wall of rugged and rough defensive lines running from Harbin and south to the Pacific.
To the north I will have certain strongpoints and mobile reserves around Changchun.

As long as we're not outmanouvered and cut of I will attempt to delay and perform a flexible defense using the rough terrain and prepared defensive hubs marked with reds circles.
When no longer possible we will retreat to the Korean peninsula; by defending only 2-3 hexes of rough terrain we should be able to stall there at least.

How many of our armored divisions should be shipped back to Manchukuo in mid 45?
How many divisions should we use for our 45-46 campaign in Manchukuo?

Hm, don't expect an easy time there now.
Our tank divs are currently upgrading to Medium tank Type 3.
It's crap but a big step up from the previous types.





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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 1/24/2012 10:54:25 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Nemo, I'm aware that large carrier formations are vulnerable; so is Andy
A fact that favors the defender with combined LBA and carrier air groups!?

But I was not aware of a 200 fire limit - wonder how Andy will deploy to get around this.
For the KB I'm still waiting for the Grace; 2 more weeks and she goes into production.
- Plan is still to hang back, rely on LBA and 8 hex KB strikes from the shadows.

As long as KB is a strong force in being Andy's hands will remain tied to his mega sized operations outside of LBA protection.

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 1/28/2012 7:02:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

Allied carriers pounding our isolated troops in Line Islands.
Spotted formation heading west from Christmas today. No doubt Andy will continue his advance in Central Pacific.
I consider Midway - Marshalls - New Britain - Central New Guinea to be likely targets throughout 1944.

He should try to strike into japanese economy directly. Most probably target now would be Philippines.
The other possibility is DEI oil, and Japan itself.

CVs are probably waiting for invasion fleets, you could try to catch some ships east of them.

quote:

ASW attack near Trinkat at 45,63

Japanese Ships
PB Nikkai Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Kuramasan Maru
xAKL Kikuryu Maru
xAKL Korei Maru
xAKL Tihuku Maru
xAKL Nissyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Taurus

SS Taurus launches 6 torpedoes at PB Nikkai Maru

So... what kind of PB was it? SS use 6 torpedoes on like Cruiser at least?

quote:

The Akitsuku class destroyers will have 485 AA rating after their 7-44 upgrade.
That's light cruiser class; should help complement our lack of heavy escorts.

25mm MGs will not help much. They do not have enough power to down armored aircraft.

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How many of our armored divisions should be shipped back to Manchukuo in mid 45?
How many divisions should we use for our 45-46 campaign in Manchukuo?

Considering tanks quality, the best place for your Panzer Divisions is where there are NO Allied tanks
I would estimate, that when Japanese Tank Division will meet Soviet Tank Corps, it will cease to exist in two days. On the other side, Soviet squads have least Anti-Tank capability of all Allied squads (except Chinese).
I have not checked late war Japanese reinforcements, but there are definitely large mortars in device database (like 200-300mm). Check when they arrive, and send some to Manchuria. When Soviets will lose few thousand people for every bombardment they will exhaust their offensive capabilities quickly.

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 1/29/2012 3:25:38 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Has to open the door to the Philippines first; that means Malaya - Burma or through SRA / DEI.
Today small units invaded an empty dot base far south of Tarawa. Guess the invasion fleets will be coming soon.

PB's are rebuilt freighters; probably a 2000 tonner or so.

The Akitsuki's got 8 fast firing 3.9 DP guns that are better than what most cruisers can field against ac.
Together with a hevy suit of smaller AA, deptch charges, high speed, durability etc they are the best escorts arund.

Indeed, but backed up by infantry, rough terrain and heavy fortifications even Jap tank divisions should be able to contribute.
Also, they move quickly and a reserve of 4 divisions in the form of a Tank Army will provide much needed reserves.
- Yeah, got lots of arty to move in as well. I will be slowly building up the Manchukuo front line defenses, arrange secondary lines, reserves
and the fall back line in the Korean peninsula. By mid 45 I will have increased garrison size considerably.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 20, 44

Invasions

Amphibious Assault at Arorae (138,137)

TF 323 troops unloading over beach at Arorae, 138,137

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 7 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled)
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Sub Attacks

Sub vs Sub: SS RO-102 attacking SS Pargo at 49,56 - near Port Blair

Japanese Ships
SS RO-102

Allied Ships
SS Pargo

SS RO-102 launches 2 torpedoes at 2,000 yards
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Air Combat

Morning Air attack on 1st Australian Division, at 103,126 , near Gasmata
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 32

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
P-38J Lightning x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.1830 Sqn FAA with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
8th FG/35th FS with P-38J Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on 1st Australian Division, at 103,126 , near Gasmata
Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes


Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 15
Liberator B.VI x 42
B-24J Liberator x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 6
B-25D1 Mitchell x 20
B-25G Mitchell x 2
B-25H Mitchell x 15
B-25J1 Mitchell x 6
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 6
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 72
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 26

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 69
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Arorae (138,137)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 200 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 9
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Arorae !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)

Assaulting units:
3rd USMC Parachute Bn /2
48th USN SeaBees /1
44th USN SeaBees /2
45th USN SeaBees /2
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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 1/30/2012 7:09:22 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Andy is moving closer to Tarawa; we hit an APD today.
Tarawa is well defended, 1 Naval garrison, 1 full strength Bde plus Base force units.

We're currently able to field a strategic reserve of 8 crack divisions.
Numerous more are bound up in Burma - Malaya - SRA - DEI - PIs - Marianas region.

My plan is to divide the 8 divisions into 2 Armies: One will be based in Singapore and the other in Davao.
There will be sufficient transports, supplies and escort available in order to sail on a few days notice.

It will be impossible to prevent the Allies from landing and perhaps capturing any base in our defesive lines unless we counterattack
and reinforce our garrison. All the garrisons are only in place to delay the enemy and discourage all but full strength invasions.
- Simply to many bases to defend them all with 2-3 divisions worth of troops.

The Combined Fleet is soon a formidable force and together with our very strong LBA a match and then some for the Allied navies.
Davao is close enough to all our main defensive positions as possible with Manila as a major size 9 port just nearby.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 22, 44

Surface Combat

Night Time Surface Combat, near Gasmata at 103,127, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-540
MTB G-548
MTB G-549
MTB G-843
MTB G-844
MTB G-845
MTB G-847
MTB G-13

Allied Ships
DD Kilty
DD Humphreys

Task forces break off...
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Getting closer to Tarawa




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Second Schweinfurt - 1/31/2012 7:57:10 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Well well, Andy goes all after our Bangkok area airodromes.
We had ca 800 fighters dispersed on 2 major bases and 3 supporting ones.

Big sized air to air combat is pretty messed up.
Enemy could easily penetrate our massed fighter defenses but enemy sweeps were inefficient and our fighters were not destroyed on the ground.
While our bases were closed enemy losses were more than double ours including 115 fighters and 80 heavy bombers.

We lost 25 KIA pilots - not bad!
I have to move our air units out until we can fix damage; been planning another air defensive zone further south in Malaya so we're A-OK!

The carrier Aso also arrives, boosting our carrier strength even further.
Another 34 days and our last CV and CVL arrive. 2 light cruisers and we only got small CVEs and destroyer / sub replacements left.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 23, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on 1st Australian Division, at 103,126 , near Gasmata
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 32

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 3
P-38J Lightning x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Ayuthia , at 56,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 26
J2M3 Jack x 27
N1K1-J George x 99
Ki-84a Frank x 171

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Ayuthia , at 56,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 26
J2M3 Jack x 27
N1K1-J George x 96
Ki-84a Frank x 171

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Ayuthia , at 56,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 25
J2M3 Jack x 24
N1K1-J George x 91
Ki-84a Frank x 163

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 74
Spitfire VIII x 7
A-36 Mustang x 11
P-38J Lightning x 40
P-40N5 Warhawk x 90
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 19
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 119
P-51B Mustang x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
18 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
16 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet *
15 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet *
16 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet *
10 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet *
7 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 30000 feet *
23 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
19 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
21 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
22 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
13 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
19 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 30000 feet
4 x P-51B Mustang sweeping at 30000 feet
16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 57
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 38
Ki-61-Id Tony x 49
Ki-84a Frank x 245

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 51
B-24J Liberator x 42
B-25C Mitchell x 6
P-51B Mustang x 25
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 15
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-51B Mustang: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 48
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-601 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 13 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
S-320 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
9th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (6 airborne, 14 on standby, 20 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
26th Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (6 airborne, 10 on standby, 17 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
47th Sentai with Ki-61-Id Tony (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 26 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
26 planes vectored on to bombers
59th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 26 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
33 planes vectored on to bombers
87th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 23 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
29 planes vectored on to bombers
281 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 22 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
23 planes vectored on to bombers
64th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 29 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
24 planes vectored on to bombers
203rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (3 airborne, 14 on standby, 29 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
37 planes vectored on to bombers
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 50
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 36
Ki-61-Id Tony x 45
Ki-84a Frank x 228

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 15
Liberator B.VI x 21
B-24J Liberator x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 6
B-25D1 Mitchell x 32
B-25G Mitchell x 2
B-25H Mitchell x 15
B-25J1 Mitchell x 6
P-38G Lightning x 11
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 63
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 damaged
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 7 destroyed

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 38
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27
Ki-61-Id Tony x 38
Ki-84a Frank x 186

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 20
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 6
PV-1 Ventura x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 5 destroyed, 10 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Runway hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 29
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16
Ki-61-Id Tony x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 119

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 11
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Ayuthia , at 56,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 21
J2M3 Jack x 21
N1K1-J George x 93
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
Ki-61-Id Tony x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 236

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 24
B-24D1 Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 45
B-29-1 Superfort x 11
P-40N5 Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 2 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed on ground
J2M3 Jack: 4 damaged
N1K1-J George: 2 damaged
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
P-40N5 Warhawk: 6 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 73
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 115

Fujiwara M. in a N1K1-J George makes head on attack ... forces B-24J Liberator out of formation
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 4
J2M3 Jack x 2
N1K1-J George x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9
F6F-3 Hellcat x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 9 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 4
N1K1-J George x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 12

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Ayuthia , at 56,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 12
J2M3 Jack x 17
N1K1-J George x 82
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11
Ki-61-Id Tony x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 197

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 7 destroyed, 27 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-84a Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
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Morning Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses
No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
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Morning Air attack on Ayuthia , at 56,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 11
J2M3 Jack x 16
N1K1-J George x 71
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 9
Ki-61-Id Tony x 9
Ki-84a Frank x 164

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Morning Air attack on Ayuthia , at 56,61
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 11
J2M3 Jack x 15
N1K1-J George x 70
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7
Ki-61-Id Tony x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 152

Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 7 destroyed
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RE: Second Schweinfurt - 2/3/2012 8:54:07 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Andy sent his fatigued fighters on another round to escort his bombers against bases in Burma - Malaya as shown on the map.
Only takes ~100 4Es to close a place for a week and it's impossible to stop the bombers but we still come up ahead.
- Defending over friendly turf we loose 18 KIA pilots and send 50 more Thuds to Kingdom come.

In general I need dozens of bases with capacity to relocate and repair quickly.

Tried to bombard enemy Chindits from sea and air while attacking with our reinforced garrison.
Enemy light troops still double their defensive value while we half ours - causing us large casualties.
Will take 3 divisions worth of troops to dislodge them.

Carrier Kasagi arrives, just 1 CV and 1 CVL left in the yards now.
Switching production to more subs and accelerated destroyers.

Btw: takes forever to upload pics to the forum these days, only me with this problem?


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 24, 44

Sub Attacks

Submarine attack near Port Blair at 46,59

Japanese Ships
xAKL Junpo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Pargo

xAKL Junpo Maru is sighted by SS Pargo
SS Pargo launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Junpo Maru
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Bombardments

Night Naval bombardment of Port Blair at 46,58

Japanese Ships
E W-1
E Karukaya

E W-1 firing at 111th Chindit Brigade
E Karukaya firing at 50th Indian Para Brigade
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Air Combat

Just showing some air attacks, were dozens more.
In general we achieved 1-1 combat exchanges with enemy ac + a few which we won decisively.
Victoria point is 13 hexes from Rangoon; max extended escort range for Thuds. Only P-38s can sweep from that range so Andy has to set them to escort.
- I think Chumphon / Victoria Point is a reasonable good place to kill enemy ac. Bangkok is obviously a tad to close and easy to close.

Morning Air attack on Rahaeng , at 58,56
Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 36

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
21st Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Chumphon , at 52,66
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 13
N1K1-J George x 39
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 12
Ki-61-Id Tony x 9
Ki-84a Frank x 52

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

CAP engaged:
261 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
281 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 3 on standby, 10 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
47th Sentai with Ki-61-Id Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
77th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 29270 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
78th Sentai with Ki-61-Ic Tony (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
203rd Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
S-324 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Chumphon , at 52,66
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 6
N1K1-J George x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
B-24D1 Liberator x 34
B-24J Liberator x 45
B-29-1 Superfort x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 45
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 7 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on 77th Chindit Brigade, at 46,58 (Port Blair)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
30 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 111th Chindit Brigade, at 46,58 (Port Blair)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 23

No Japanese losses


Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P1Y1 Frances bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 111th Chindit Brigade, at 46,58 (Port Blair)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 29
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 24


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x P1Y1 Frances bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Port Blair (46,58)
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19594 troops, 166 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 690
Defending force 5358 troops, 97 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 254

Japanese adjusted assault: 418
Allied adjusted defense: 561

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2767 casualties reported
Squads: 65 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 27 (4 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
257 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
10th Exped.Force
14th Ind.Infantry Brigade
53rd Division
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th Air Division
19th Field AA Machinecannon Company

Defending units:
50th Indian Para Brigade
111th Chindit Brigade
77th Chindit Bde /2
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RE: Second Schweinfurt - 2/4/2012 7:52:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB

Andy sent his fatigued fighters on another round to escort his bombers against bases in Burma - Malaya as shown on the map.
Only takes ~100 4Es to close a place for a week and it's impossible to stop the bombers but we still come up ahead.
- Defending over friendly turf we loose 18 KIA pilots and send 50 more Thuds to Kingdom come.


It seems Andy is using older airframes for now, maybe he prepares slowly to another serious strike soon? But he will need first to rest, and rearm his airwings.

quote:

Tried to bombard enemy Chindits from sea and air while attacking with our reinforced garrison.
Enemy light troops still double their defensive value while we half ours - causing us large casualties.
Will take 3 divisions worth of troops to dislodge them.

Does those Es even have any serious guns to bombard?
I am actually wondering about OOB of Allied units. How much guns are there? Probably no larger, so you should easily outrange them with Independent Artillery Units.
Also, how much AA weapon does they have? Maybe some strafing would give better results?

quote:

My plan is to divide the 8 divisions into 2 Armies: One will be based in Singapore and the other in Davao.
There will be sufficient transports, supplies and escort available in order to sail on a few days notice.

It will be impossible to prevent the Allies from landing and perhaps capturing any base in our defesive lines unless we counterattack
and reinforce our garrison. All the garrisons are only in place to delay the enemy and discourage all but full strength invasions.
- Simply to many bases to defend them all with 2-3 divisions worth of troops.

Seems reasonable. I would probably put some troops on Borneo but ships can be somewhat exposed there. The main question is the targets those Division should start planning. I wonder if you should worry about Truk, and Peleliu. Ambon should be sure thing.

quote:

Btw: takes forever to upload pics to the forum these days, only me with this problem?

I get quick upload, but it seems to be serious lag during post publishing.

PS. Oh, and it seems there is no enemy troops between Moulmein, and Pegu. Maybe some supply cutting?
And... there are Japanese troops at Akyab? Does they have supply? Have you actually checked all bases in Burma? There are lots of them, and it is possible some are lightly defended. If you could catch one of them, with planes still on airfield...

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RE: Second Schweinfurt - 2/5/2012 4:54:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		More of the same; Allied bombers hit Bangkok and a unhappy Beaufighter units probably strafe the place by mistake.
Won't care posting turns with little or no interest.

Andy has rested and prepared for his major strike - on Bangkok area.
He can't keep bombing both Port Blair while at the same time suppressing Bangkok region.
- A single attack on 5 airfields have closed them for weeks though but as soon as I've sorted out and repaired the damaged air units
we will be able to return all 800 and cause havoc at any given day.

WitP AE air combat late war is struggling hard with scaling, works much better with low-moderate numbers of fighters and bombers.
It's not about killig of the enemy pilots and aircraft, it's about closing their airfields with a single nuke attack by a low number 4Es.
The abstration of dozens of airfields into one large is a poor one, guess it's the best that could be made.

Nah, the Es had some 12cm guns - just to create some disruption and spot enemy troops.
Air landing units in Port Blair doesn't have heavy guns and should be possible to suppress after living in the jungle for a month, but not so.
I can't strafe them either, only bombers can reach them from Malaya and Port Blair is and will remain closed for Jap air business.
- Takes weeks to reopen the place and one air strikes to close it again.

Sending reinforcements to Java in general, need to keep ships away from enemy Super forts.
Can always prep the divs for some targets, but it would be pure bingo to prep for the same targets as Andy!

Just a few para squads at Akyab, Andy hasn't cared about wiping them out.
I've given up on capturing a base; even 10 chefs when in rough terrain with 5 forts is enough to stall a para attack by 1000 troops and by next
day it's to late. Need to rest and refit the para units now...but yes, I'm always looking for opportunities


Does anyone know why it was decided not to include the Jap 4 engine bomber(s) in the game?
The only reason production was halted in 45 was lack of capacity and resources; the existing models were used as transports.
As I see it the model did go into production even only a few were produced.

In AE with numerous prototypes available the only missing thing is a bomber with potential of returning some heat to Allied bases.
Just doesn't make any sense to remove a fully operational design. Me thinks the AFBs got the better of us again

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RE: Second Schweinfurt - 2/5/2012 5:42:37 PM   
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WitP AE air combat late war is struggling hard with scaling, works much better with low-moderate numbers of fighters and bombers.
It's not about killig of the enemy pilots and aircraft, it's about closing their airfields with a single nuke attack by a low number 4Es.
The abstration of dozens of airfields into one large is a poor one, guess it's the best that could be made.

I agree. Same result I had with my Downfall testing ... once you get >400 ac in a combat, you can get really unpredictable results. Not biased one way or the other, just unpredictable. It looks to me like model boundary conditions, but maybe that's what was wanted. No dev has ever commented on this.

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ORIGINAL: PzB
Does anyone know why it was decided not to include the Jap 4 engine bomber(s) in the game?
The only reason production was halted in 45 was lack of capacity and resources; the existing models were used as transports.
As I see it the model did go into production even only a few were produced.

In AE with numerous prototypes available the only missing thing is a bomber with potential of returning some heat to Allied bases.
Just doesn't make any sense to remove a fully operational design. Me thinks the AFBs got the better of us again

Nope, but I have included it in my personal mod (based upon Nemo's Armegeddon) and I know others have as well. I think because when the dev's looked at the IJ endgame, they were a bit too restrictive. Meaning, they were looking too much at historical type outcomes. If the IJ does about historical, there is no HI to build the G8N ... 4E's are really expensive, so not including them is fine. You won't build them anyway, you need to build fighers and kami's.

BUT, if the IJ does much better than historical (like you or how Rader was doing until he lost Hokkaido), then IJ has PLENTY of HI to build up an impressive force of G8N's. And these G8N's would be handy in further delaying the inevitable.

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RE: Second Schweinfurt - 2/5/2012 8:40:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's acutally a disadvantage Allies; unpredictability in late war after heavy losses is just what they cannot afford!

Yep, and I'm producing hundreds of bombers a month right now; could easily prioritized 200 4Es instead of 400 naval bombers over a 2 month period.
It's also said that;

The initial prototype was completed in October 1944 and delivered to the Navy for testing in January 1945, a mere one year after the Navy ordered development to start. Three further examples were completed by June 1945, with the third prototype being destroyed on the ground by US carrier aircraft.[2]

Other than minor problems with the turbosuperchargers, the Renzan performed satisfactorily and the Navy hoped to have a total of 16 prototypes and 48 production-version G8N1s assembled by September 1945. But the worsening war situation and a critical shortage of light aluminum alloys led to the project's cancellation in June.[2]

One proposed variant was the G8N2 Renzan-Kai Model 22, powered by four 2,200 hp Mitsubishi MK9A radial engines and modified to accept attachment of the air-launched Ohka Type 33 Special Attack Bomber.[2]

Just prior to Japan's surrender in August 1945 consideration was also briefly given to producing an all-steel version of the aircraft, to be designated G8N3 Renzan-Kai Model 23, but the cessation of hostilities precluded any further development.[2]

After the war, one prototype was taken to the United States[3][4] and scrapped after testing. None are in existence today.
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If this is correct we got 2 production models planned even at war's end:

G8N1 : Four-engine heavy bomber. Production version.
G8N2 : Modified to carry Ohka Type 33 Special Attack Bomber. Four Mitsubishi MK9A radial engines.
G8N3 : All-steel airframe.

Removing this ac from the Jap production list is therefore completely wrong in my humble opinion.
Would have been much more realistic to meet the this bomber than a "Kikka" in the skies in 1945-46...
Aarg, always the sweetest fruits that are denied to you


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 26, 44

Surface Combat

Been having problems unloading 1500 supplies at Port Blair; the amph TF is docked and hardly able to unload.
The 2 small old escorts fended of an attack by 2 large enemy destroyers today.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Blair at 46,58, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E Karukaya, Shell hits 1
E W-1, Shell hits 16, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Conner, Shell hits 2
DD Stembel

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 32% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 32% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
DD Conner engages E W-1 at 2,000 yards
DD Stembel engages E W-1 at 2,000 yards
E Karukaya engages DD Conner at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Conner engages E W-1 at 3,000 yards
DD Conner engages E W-1 at 3,000 yards
DD Conner engages E W-1 at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Stembel engages E W-1 at 2,000 yards
DD Conner engages E W-1 at 2,000 yards
DD Stembel engages E Karukaya at 2,000 yards
E W-1 sunk by DD Stembel at 2,000 yards
DD Conner engages E Karukaya at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD Conner engages E Karukaya at 4,000 yards
DD Conner engages E Karukaya at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
DD Stembel engages E Karukaya at 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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RE: Second Schweinfurt - 2/5/2012 10:48:09 PM   
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RE: Second Schweinfurt - 2/11/2012 7:21:46 AM   
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Air landing units in Port Blair doesn't have heavy guns and should be possible to suppress after living in the jungle for a month, but not so.
I can't strafe them either, only bombers can reach them from Malaya and Port Blair is and will remain closed for Jap air business.


You can always strafe with bombers, or place some FPs nearby (I think you should have 3 units of some crappy Float Fighter). Not that any of this will be especially effective

quote:

Been having problems unloading 1500 supplies at Port Blair; the amph TF is docked and hardly able to unload.
The 2 small old escorts fended of an attack by 2 large enemy destroyers today.

Try undocking them. I think docked amphibious TF lose its unloading bonus

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/11/2012 4:42:08 PM   
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Looking ahead

August 45 it's Stalin time!
- I'm already looking ahead planning optimal defensive deployment.

Since China is quiet area this region will not be touched; I'm going to honor that agreement by keeping the bulk of China troops in theater.
How many divisions in China do you think should remain there even when Russians invade? A certain paid release of troops to the east like in real life should be expected.

In Manchukuo I'm going to quickly fall back to a wall of rugged and rough defensive lines running from Harbin and south to the Pacific.
To the north I will have certain strongpoints and mobile reserves around Changchun.

As long as we're not outmanouvered and cut of I will attempt to delay and perform a flexible defense using the rough terrain and prepared defensive hubs marked with reds circles.
When no longer possible we will retreat to the Korean peninsula; by defending only 2-3 hexes of rough terrain we should be able to stall there at least.

How many of our armored divisions should be shipped back to Manchukuo in mid 45?
How many divisions should we use for our 45-46 campaign in Manchukuo?

Hm, don't expect an easy time there now.
Our tank divs are currently upgrading to Medium tank Type 3.
It's crap but a big step up from the previous types.






I never quite understood why Allied players play quite China. Even if China is eventually lost, (as it is about to be in my campaign) an active front there will eat up Japanese supply, manpower and divert planes that could be used elsewhere. I can't see where it benefits the Allies at all. It seems to me that quite China would free up a lot of Japanese troops as there are plenty of troops in China that are not restricted and could be moved out to other theaters.

Anyways I think you are doing the decent thing-exercising some restraint in shifting forces.


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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/11/2012 10:02:48 PM   
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Once SOV starts to push, you have to hold the Korean penninsula to Shanghai as long as you can.  That means shortening your lines as best you can.  SOV is clearly an animal, VERY tough to stop if rader's AAR is any indication.

You also need a huge PP reserve as you will want to bring as many of those units back to the HI for the final defense as you can.

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/12/2012 1:42:29 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		If we didn have quiet China it's very possible the game would have been over by now.
A Jap victory in China would have given the points needed for auto-victory...
- So kinda two edged sword really!

If Allies are not a great threat to Home Islands and innef defens perimeter by Soviet activation I will divert reserves.

The AKL was bugged, it refused to unload after being docked, undocked, disbanded and created in a new TF.
Had to RTB and it was sunk enroute.

The Rita looks like a B-17, B-25 kinda combo integrated with Jap technology.

Strafing from long range isn't very efficient and basing float planes at Port Blair only see them blown up.

We got some action, we're now into July 44 and during the last week Andy captured Arawe in New Britain with paras.
We counter attacked with paras, failed - rallied and recaptured the base and defeated 1000 allied troops including a base force.

Allied expansion in Solomon - New Guinea is slow. Andy is taking his time building up for a great push.
Smaller attacks are stalled and turned back easily.

As we get into the 2nd half of the year I prepare to send Combined Fleet ships through the last upgrades of the war.
By end of August this will be completed and our destroyer and submarine fleets will also have been considerably strengthened.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 27, 44

Ground Combat

Ground combat at Arawe (102,126)
Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 100 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 9
Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Arawe !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /2
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 28, 44

Ground Combat

Ground combat at Arawe (102,126)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 181 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8
Defending force 393 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Japanese adjusted assault: 5
Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /2
107th RN Base Force /1
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 29, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on 107th RN Base Force, at 102,126 (Arawe)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N1 Jill x 12
N1K1-J George x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B6N1 Jill bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 503rd Parachute Rgt /2 ...
Also attacking 107th RN Base Force /1 ...
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Morning Air attack on 503rd Parachute Regiment, at 102,126 (Arawe)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 1000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 503rd Parachute Regiment, at 102,126 (Arawe)
Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y2 Judy x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y2 Judy: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D4Y2 Judy bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on 503rd Parachute Regiment, at 102,126 (Arawe)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Arawe (102,126)
Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 494 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22
Defending force 673 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese adjusted assault: 15
Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Arawe !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
989 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 81 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /2
107th RN Base Force
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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/18/2012 7:08:13 AM   
inqistor


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Status: offline 		It seems Rabaul will be next target. Andy tries to get some additional bases cheaply, and when you commit transports to retake them, Allied CVs will show up.


A few more things about Soviets:
Remember that once activated, Japan will be in range of Soviet planes. You should prepare your AA units for bases in western coast.
But that also have a positive thing, as your permanently restricted air units in Japan, can be used offensively over Soviet ground. Armored OSCARS should have quite an advantage against I-15.

And most important thing - get some forces to Sakhalin. Once activated you should be able to retake whole island, and pump out oil stockpiled there

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/19/2012 3:49:02 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		We're now into July 4th but nothing major to report with the exception of the heavy air strikes on Victoria Point on the 2nd!
The attacks were not only directed against VP and our defenders again cut down more enemy ac than they lost. Also, pilots losses were again acceptable; 13 KIA after loosing 88 planes.
The majority of the 120 Allied planes most likely perished with their crews!

Rabaul has probably been on the wish list for some time but Andy knows we got a bugged AA regiment that has received a full tank division of reinforcements.
Andy commented on having something similar. So invading Rabaul will be costly and require the support of the Allied carrier fleets.

Having the Allies invading lower Gilberts and prepping to assault New Britain and the Marshalls in the last half of 1944 is kinda acceptable!-)

Indeed, I kinda think it should be possible to murder the Red Air Force with our advanced fighters available to us in 8/44
And then I'm not thinking about Oscars!-) Producing the Oscar III now in low numbers, great plane but 2x12,7mm guns isn't acceptable.
The last Oscar IV version will field 2x20mm guns...still not good enough.

Yees, Sakhalin could be interesting


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 02, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 18
N1K1-J George x 46
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 94
Ki-61-Id Tony x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 18
N1K1-J George x 44
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 94
Ki-61-Id Tony x 23
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 5 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 18
N1K1-J George x 41
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 90
Ki-61-Id Tony x 23
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 17
N1K1-J George x 36
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 13
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 84
Ki-61-Id Tony x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 17
N1K1-J George x 35
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 79
Ki-61-Id Tony x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 15
N1K1-J George x 33
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 11
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 74
Ki-61-Id Tony x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 28
B-24J Liberator x 26
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 11
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged


Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 14
N1K1-J George x 31
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 63
Ki-61-Id Tony x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 28
B-24D1 Liberator x 29
B-24J Liberator x 30
B-29-1 Superfort x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 6
N1K1-J George x 13
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 1
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 27
Ki-61-Id Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 15
B-24J Liberator x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1 Rex: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 9
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 1
N1K1-J George x 6
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 1
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 20
Ki-61-Id Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
B-24J Liberator x 28
B-25C Mitchell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 damaged
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 damaged
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-C Irving: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 15000 feet
1 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 15000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Victoria Point , at 51,66
Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61-Ic Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Ic Tony: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 15000 feet *
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Air Losses

New ship types allow us to perform amphibious landing and reinforcement operations more efficiently.
On a small scale at least. We have the new Super ASW escorts - the "E" class, new APD destroyers and fast LST landing ships.
Very handy to quickly load / unload in bases without proper port facilities.




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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/19/2012 5:00:27 PM   
PaxMondo


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Status: offline 		Don't discount the SOV air upgrades.  There is nothing wrong with the late model Yak fighters.

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/20/2012 8:12:28 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		No worries, but the Soviet fighters should be short legged and used to support ground attacks in China.
Pretty sure our Shindens can handle them!

I'm working hard on the logistics; despite having a sizeable reserve in Burma to support the Army Group south of Rangoon I've managed to find
the first 8 divisions for our strategic reserve. Will combine another 2 divisions and divide this force into 2 rapic reaction forces to counter any Allied invasion that requires a response.
- Our Combined Fleet and Kido Butai supported by LBA should be strong enough to allow us to land our reinforcements. Will use all our E class escorts to protect them against subs.

Strategic Reserve

Singapore and Manila region will be their base - thus I can full filled 2 goals at once;
1. Provide a really strong defense for 2 of our key strategic locations
2. Create a strong counter-attack force to defeat almost any Allied landing that is in progress




PS! The 4th Division is the elite unit that got stuck up in India and spent the better part of a year partially isolated.
It has returned to Chiang May and is currently railing to Singapore. Epic little tale!

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/20/2012 9:39:08 PM   
traskott


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Status: offline 		And now is up to 456 A.V., and with (sure) a very high exp !!!! The new 'Imperial Guards' Division !!!

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 2/28/2012 7:32:13 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		Another week of gameplay without much to report!
Slowly our new carriers are being completed and our older ones upgraded.
3 more weeks and it's Grace time.

Yesterday I spotted something at the far reaches of the Andamans; the bombers were readied and
today we hit some fat juicy transports loaded to the brim with FUEL and troops!

Looks like Andy is trying to sneak in the backdoor or take one of the smaller islands.
Our rapid reaction force is in place and we can hit them again like we did it before many times.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 09, 44

Air Combat

Morning Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 40,61
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Little
xAP Cape Cleare
DE Encounter
xAK Marietta E, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1176 casualties reported
Squads: 64 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 77 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 38 (36 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 40,61
Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAP Cape Neddick, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 40,61
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Empire Curlew, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DE Encounter
xAP Cape Cleare, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1922 casualties reported
Squads: 74 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 94 destroyed, 77 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 55 (53 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 98 (98 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Car Nicobar at 40,61
Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
DE Encounter
APD Manley
DE Isis
LCI-327

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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Andamans - again?




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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 3/1/2012 3:16:37 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Status: offline 		Troops ships and fuel laden ones within 7 hexes of a Japanese base ? no air cover by the looks of it too. Nice freebie for you to gobble up.
Given how awful those dot bases are (most are 0 size ports but 5 base airfield),so good airfields IF you can hold them long enough with a
LOT of naval support troops to make up for crummy port facilities.

OR it was a mistake/error in moving them there , that would be my guess anyway.

Anyway , this is one great AAR once again almost making me join the dark side

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RE: BACK IN BUSINESS - PzB goes East again(st) Andy Mac - 3/1/2012 9:25:36 PM   
crsutton


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Status: offline 		Would you list your active carriers? KB is pretty powerful at this stage. Has Andy sunk any carriers?

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 3/2/2012 8:50:44 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		I think it was an attempt to snatch on of the islands Rob; Andy is trying but the fuel load was unfortunate.
He can't divide his carriers, I'll smash the weaker part

Our rapid response TF caught up with a damaged troopship today and sank it with another 2278 troops and equipment.
The enemy TF fled north.

Yeess, join and feel the power of the dark side
You're doing plenty well in your multi AAR Rob, reading the updates - nice raid into Rangoon!
The multiplayer deal is kewl, takes much time and coordination!

Hm, yes we have lost the carrier Akagi (subs), the carrier Hiyo and 2 light carriers.

In 2 days the light carrier Ibuki arrives and in 17 days the last fleet carrier Ikoma arrives.
After that only a handful of tiny CVEs will trickle in.

So if we count in the CV and CVL arriving shortly the KB will reach peak strength with:

14 fleet carriers
7 light carriers
6 escort carriers

That's 27 bird farms with ca ~1500 ac!

No doubt Andy can muster a lot more carrier planes, but the majority will come from the now numerous CVEs.
We will therefore even the odds by always operating close to our LBA.

A lesson learned from the previous game is that I _have to_ reign in the temptation to use KB in non-critical actions
and losses. As long as we have this potent fleet Andy can only plan one major campaign at the time outside of LBA range.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 10, 44

Surface Combat

Day Time Surface Combat, near Little Andaman at 41,60, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi
DD Usugumo
DD Uranami

Allied Ships
xAP Cape Neddick, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
2278 casualties reported
Squads: 95 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 90 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 36 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Low visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 10,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
xAP Cape Neddick sunk by DD Usugumo at 9,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
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Carrier trained Myrt

Took months to get this small Myrt unit carrier trained.
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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 3/3/2012 3:03:34 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Took months to get this small Myrt unit carrier trained.
Extended range is 26-27 hexes!


I dread to think the size of the end of that search arc , would be about 1/2 mainland USA .. is spotting at that range even possible ??
Id have thought it better used as a very long range recon a/c so you can pick specific targets for it ..

Just my 2p

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 3/3/2012 5:45:44 PM   
PzB74


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Status: offline 		No idea how it will work operationally, 2/3 ac on the Hosho have been damaged or refitting constantly.
A mix of long range recon and search will probably work.

Especially if AE search is as whacky as I think it is

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RE: Enemy assaults Port Blair - 3/5/2012 7:24:36 PM   
PzB74


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 12, 44

We receive light carrier Ibuki; no airgroup onboard - have to dock it for some time for one to generate I guess.
Also; look at this WEIRD carrier trained air unit - Stella!
What am I to do with a carrier trained Fiesler Storch.....

Gilberts

Andy has built a small atoll south of Tarawa which is our southernmost anchor in the Gilberts.
He's now bombing the place but it's well stocked with supplies, got lots of forts and a reinforced Brigade as garrison.

Pretty sure that he will drive up the Gilberts soon; most air bases in region are small and only a handful of size 3-4 bases.
This is nothing against 2000 Allied CAG and not enough to support the Combined Fleet.
- So Andy can have these islands, but he will have to fight for them and woe him if he expose a flank.




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