castor troy
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Castor,
I'm not going to get into this further with you beyond this post. Historically when the USN and RN operated together it was not at all unknown for one carrier to carry the fighters and another to carry the bombers in order to ease logistics. There is even literature about how some of the later USN fighters were too large to allow such cross-decking because of the small sizes of the RN hangar decks. So, CVs with 100% fighter loadouts did happen in the war. Was it rare? Yes. But so were torpedo attacks with special assemblys attached to the torpedo to prevent it hitting the bottom of a shallow harbour. We don't ban torpedoes in PH attacks because of that.
Even if it never happened I wouldn't be too bothered as it was certainly possible and my arbiter of what is fair in-game is what was possible in real life, not what was necessarily done. It was possible, carries a risk and is counterable by the enemy ( whether they be Allies or Japanese ). You may not like it but saying it was impossible is ignorant of historical fact. Use google to do a search of the forum. Several posts here recently spoke about RN/USN cross-decking in mixed TFs. Again you might say that isn't "valid" somehow but it shows it happened and the difference is only a matter of degree.
Again though, as usual, you mistake something you don't like for something which shouldn't be allowed and never happened. Let us be clear, I believe things which historically happened are perfectly valid irrespective of your opinion... especially when you have a history of foregoing facts for hyperbole and complaint.
Invernomuto,
Aye, it was done in real life so I see no problem with doing it in-game.
Complaining that doing it with a lot of fighters is "gamey" is ridiculous because if that's the yardstick we will use for gamey then none of us should be allowed to fly any missions in greater strength than the Allies or Japanese achieved on the same date in the war. If I want that level of orthodoxy I'll go watch a documentary.
I often wonder if people realize what they write! First you say 6 CV with fighters only (of 6 CV in a TF). Then you talk about one or some carriers in a TF with fighters only (the example I´ve brought up). This is a completely different thing than a WHOLE TF loaded up with fighters only. And noone can show me a real life example of a carrier TF like KB being sent out with only fighters aboard because it never happened and would have never happened. You could have also sent out a tank division with only MG ammo for the tanks because this would be "possible" also. And if I would say no general on Earth would have ever done it I would probably hear, it would be possible, why not doing it in the game... No carrier task force of such a size ever left port with fighters only aboard to go onto a combat mission (and don´t come up with a transfer mission to Malta now  ).
I don´t even talk about your history because it always makes me shaking my head when I hear these fantasy comments masked in lots of your psycho blah blah, sorry.
< Message edited by castor troy -- 1/9/2011 3:16:38 PM >
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Not sure what happened there! 
And the Chinese are advancing on all fronts. Next month the allies get 3 new fleet carriers meaning they will be back to where they were when they invaded Ponape. Plus they will have more CVEs. They get about 5 CVEs a month starting in January. 
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