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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 6:43:40 PM   
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1) Aus I Corps, sappers and arty/armour as you deem appropriate take the the New South Express to Sydney.

2) We show the carriers near Exmouth (I sent them 1 hex off Carnavon today) JJ has some surface taffy headed SW toward Exmouth. Maybe we ambush them, maybe we don't, but we leave the carriers under cover of Exmouth and Carnavon. The carriers, being faster, can hang around near Geraldton for a bit.

3) When escorts reach Perth, we start all the President class USN AP's and all AK's, xAP's with 14kt+ plus speed to Sydney.

4) USMC units, I Amphib Corps and one Bn armor will go to Brisbane so that we can embark all 3 divisions simultaneously. I will need to scrounge up some transports from NZ and Townsville. I will try to assemble about 100 naval support engineers to go ashore with the assault force.

5) We should take maybe 60 aviation support points and some CB's with us in a follow-on lift. I would like to get about a 1/3rd load of troop capacity on the assault AP's so they can disembark fast.

6) When the port at PH is 100% shut down, I will rest the B-24's and get them ready in Alice. The B-17's can pound the rubble at PH and start ground attacks at Broome as a feint.

7) I will take that level 1 field East of Port Moresby to suggest a planned landing at Port Morseby.

8) Br 18th Div will have to start down the road toward Katherine pretty soon if we are to pin that Jap division there.

9) Was also thinking we could take Bathurst Is just North of Darwin when we land to build to an emergencey airfield if we fail to take Darwin.

10) Do you want me to put some engineers ashore at Gove now or will this tip our hand?

11) I will move some AE's and AD's to Horn Is so we can rearm our surface combatants without going tall the way back to Townsville.

12) The BB's from Geraldton can come around right before we push off. We should also have Washington, PoW and perhaps Indiana by the time we push off.

Do you want to add any numbers or take any off?

Also, what do you think about a date for D-Day. I would liek to go ASAP even before Aus I corps is well prepped.?



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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 6:53:31 PM   
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THERE WAS A LAD CALLED ALADDIN WHO HAD A MAGIC LAMP,
HE TOOK IT OFF A MATELOT WHO WAS FATHOMS UP A TRAMP,
HE STOLE IT FROM A MATELOT TOO SEE WHAT HE COULD GET,
AND HE RUBBED AND HE RUBBED AND HE AIN'T GOT F*** ALL YET,
OH! FAH, LAH, LE LAH, LAH LE DEE, SIXTEEN ANNERS ONE RUPEE
FEED OF A**E ON A SYCAMORE TREE OH B****R JANNER.

A SULTAN SAID TO ALADDIN, MY PALACE YOU CAN PAINT,
ALADDIN LIKE A BIG O.D. SAID NO I F******G AIN'T,
SO OFF HE WENT, WITH A ONE INCH BRUSH AND A POT OF BLACK ENAMEL,
AND HE SHOVED IT UP THE A***HOLE OF THE SULTANS FAVOURITE CAMEL,
OH! FAH, LAH, LE LAH, LAH LE DEE, SIXTEEN ANNERS ONE RUPEE
FEED OF A**E ON A SYCAMORE TREE OH B****R JANNER

YOU MAKE FARCE, KISS MY A**E, MAKE FAST THE DINGY,
YOU MAKE FARCE, KISS MY A**E, MAKE FAST THE DINGY,
AND WE'LL ALL GO BACK TO OGGIE LAND, TO OGGIE LAND,
AND WE'LL ALL GO BACK TO OGGIE LAND, WHERE THEY CAN'T TELL PAPER,
FROM TISSUE PAPER, TISSUE PAPER, MARMALADE AND JAM,
OGGIE, OGGIE, OGGIE, OYE, OYE, OYE
OGGIE, OGGIE, OGGIE, OYE, OYE, OYE




I think Admiral Lord Sprior has been out in the Australian sun too long

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 7:01:25 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 7:15:38 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 7:23:19 PM   
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1) Aus I Corps


The Aus I Corps HQ is a restricted until and will require 120 PPs to move to another command.

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Also, what do you think about a date for D-Day. I would liek to go ASAP even before Aus I corps is well prepped.?


The 6th and 7th Divs seem to get 1 prep point per turn so it might take a while to get them to 50%. Fifty days in fact.



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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 7:24:01 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 7:27:33 PM   
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Is that from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 7:30:12 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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1) Aus I Corps


The Aus I Corps HQ is a restricted until and will require 120 PPs to move to another command.


D'oh. Never mind.

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Also, what do you think about a date for D-Day. I would liek to go ASAP even before Aus I corps is well prepped.?


The 6th and 7th Divs seem to get 1 prep point per turn so it might take a while to get them to 50%. Fifty days in fact.




I don't think we can keep up the ruse that long. Mabe we can carry the day at Darwin with some disruption to 6th and 7th?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 9:26:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		May I inquire as to the New Guinea and Solomons situation? Are the straights open at Horn free from 2Es?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 11:10:47 PM   
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May I inquire as to the New Guinea and Solomons situation? Are the straights open at Horn free from 2Es?



We own Horn Is., having taken it back from JJ before Weasel started. Horn is nearly a level 4 port and level 5 airfield. Merauke (NW of Horn is level 4.7 airfield) and is securely ours. Port Moresby airfield is reconned at 78% destroyed but 3 Sallys did take of from there today and failed to hit an AK. Lae is not built up, neither is Milne Bay. Rabaul is a level 9 airfield. In short, the Torres Strait is not 100% secure but there is pretty good air cover from the 50 fighters at Horn Is. and from Beaufighters at Cooktown if we hug the Australian coast. It is, of course, very hard to completely shut down recon.

PM airfiled is going to be a junk yard when this starts as will that other airfield on the north coast of New Guinea whose name I cant remember right now.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/3/2012 11:13:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Solomons are all in Jap control. We have a seaplane base at Ndeni which provides good recon of shipping in the Solomons. I have seen jap CA's heading North from Lunga and there are quite a few AP's there. I think they are drawing down like they have in the New Hebrides.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/4/2012 2:00:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

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Is that from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo?

I think it's just some dude wanting to try out the Royal Sovereign replica that he got as a Christmas gift. Just need to fix some open water first.


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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/4/2012 3:51:25 AM   
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I think it's just some dude wanting to try out the Royal Sovereign replica that he got as a Christmas gift. Just need to fix some open water first.



God bless him! At least he has a non-sedentary hobby. Let's hope his wife didn't accidentally order him a replica of Vasa.

Is there much inbreeding in Sweden? Oh well, I salute his hardiness, in France you can't even get a Gin & Tonic because they are afraid of ice cubes.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/4/2012 4:17:46 AM   
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Let's hope his wife didn't accidentally order him a replica of Vasa.




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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/4/2012 4:08:47 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Looks like another big Jap effort at PH, Reinforcement? Resupply? It doesn't seem like they are bringing enough ships for evac.

What to do? LYB carriers are laying off just outside of B-25 range from Carnavon. The B-25's don't hurt the BB's much but even a 500 lb bomb could ruin the day for a carrier.

Exmouth will be level 2 tomorrow. Seems like it is best to wait for that and keep the carriers back.




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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/5/2012 8:27:07 AM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/5/2012 1:13:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cause it's all mined out. All the money is in the mushrooms. BTW I was obliquely trying to refer earlier that it might take longer than a week and a half to march as I play two day turns (Toodyay Terns). From memory the armour travelled just under 1 hex every turn- so every 2 days.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/5/2012 1:55:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		By my calculation the move from Meekathara entails 46 miles over Road-Secondary, 276 miles over Desert, and 46 miles over Desert+Rough.

Using optimal movement rates for Armor (assuming no fatigue at all) it would take 14 days (rounded up).

However I imagine there would be delays due to fatigue. It will therefore take a bit longer (I'd imagine 16 days would be a good estimate).

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/5/2012 1:57:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes - 8 hex distance between Meekathara and Corunna - assume an average of 1 hex per 2 days - and you come out to the same 16 days I mentioned above!

It is a very laborious way of doing it and if the Japanese recon spots the armor they can really hurt them bombing them out in the open!

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/5/2012 2:36:07 PM   
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Yes - 8 hex distance between Meekathara and Corunna - assume an average of 1 hex per 2 days - and you come out to the same 16 days I mentioned above!

It is a very laborious way of doing it and if the Japanese recon spots the armor they can really hurt them bombing them out in the open!


I am a newbie .. but given a raid of 24 - 48 LYB twin engine bombers attacking between 5 - 12K feet ....I have found 4 heavy AA btn's will take out 1 twin-engine and damage between 5 - 8 ...per turn .. a couple of turns of this and the LYB go elsewhere .. plus damaged LYB bombers cannot hit the tanks ... If the LYB's attack above 12K feet the bombing accuracy goes down and the flak effects reduces to just damaging aircraft .. I am not sure how much AA slows down the armored stack etc ...

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/5/2012 3:26:39 PM   
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What say you Admiral Lord Sprior, shall we send some of our up-armoured sorghum harvesters?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/5/2012 10:27:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly- the Japs won't be reconning the desert- they'll be looking at your airfields and they don't have working field within any sort of reasonable range. Also why I'd suggest moving from Meekatharra rather than Carnarvon- it keeps you away from the coast for longer.

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 2:32:59 AM   
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Why has Sweden not conquered the world with men like this...

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 4:39:26 AM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 4:46:09 AM   
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Why has Sweden not conquered the world with men like this...


Because once they leave Sweden, they immediately get arrested for indecent exposure and have to spend the next 30 nights still dressed like that, sharing a cell with "Big Bruce The Insatiable?"

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 5:45:30 AM   
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Because the rest of the world is too warm for them! They are perfectly happy with having conquered Minnesota... 

Ahem...

The Norwegians conquered Minnesota, not the Swedes.

Philistine.



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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 6:49:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		AA units really slow an armoured column down - they move three times slower on desert and desert+rough hexes than armour does.

That being said, Cap Mandrake and Itdepends make their points well that the Japanese player will hardly expect any advance from this area, is highly unlikely to recon the open desert, and does not have many air assets within range.

I therefore support an armoured column from Meekathara to Corunna!

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 4:27:04 PM   
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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 4:35:24 PM   
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AA units really slow an armoured column down - they move three times slower on desert and desert+rough hexes than armour does.

That being said, Cap Mandrake and Itdepends make their points well that the Japanese player will hardly expect any advance from this area, is highly unlikely to recon the open desert, and does not have many air assets within range.

I therefore support an armoured column from Meekathara to Corunna!


While it's probable that intentional recon of open desert hexes will not occur, beware SigInt. Loose radio discipline can (and does) identify LCUs where they are most unexpected. Then a recon flight can be so directed to follow-up. It is unrealistic to assume that tens of thousands of men will schlep hundreds of miles across the desert with zero warning to the enemy of their approach. Sure, it can happen, but I'd wager against their arriving undetected.

Nonetheless, I think it's a useful gambit. Even if spotted, what are the Japanese going to do about it? Their aerial intervention is stymied, their ground LCUs fighting like hell just to hang on. No-proceed apace, fair Cap'n. You'll get what you seek-some abandoned dot hex in the middle of nowhere.

Cap'n: what base forces and engineer battalions will you have on hand to begin base construction after capture?

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RE: Before teleprompters - 1/6/2012 8:50:54 PM   
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The Burial of Sir John Moore after Corunna

NOT a drum was heard, not a funeral note,
As his corse to the rampart we hurried;
Not a soldier discharged his farewell shot
O'er the grave where our hero we buried.

We buried him darkly at dead of night,
The sods with our bayonets turning,
By the struggling moonbeam's misty light
And the lanthorn dimly burning.

No useless coffin enclosed his breast,
Not in sheet or in shroud we wound him;
But he lay like a warrior taking his rest
With his martial cloak around him.

Few and short were the prayers we said,
And we spoke not a word of sorrow;
But we steadfastly gazed on the face that was dead,
And we bitterly thought of the morrow.

We thought, as we hollow'd his narrow bed
And smooth'd down his lonely pillow,
That the foe and the stranger would tread o'er his head,
And we far away on the billow!

Lightly they'll talk of the spirit that 's gone,
And o'er his cold ashes upbraid him—
But little he'll reck, if they let him sleep on
In the grave where a Briton has laid him.

But half of our heavy task was done
When the clock struck the hour for retiring;
And we heard the distant and random gun
That the foe was sullenly firing.

Slowly and sadly we laid him down,
From the field of his fame fresh and gory;
We carved not a line, and we raised not a stone,
But we left him alone with his glory.


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