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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:14:26 PM   
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I have good news to report. We sent in a recon in force on the Katy Outer islands on the west side of Houston yesterday (sometimes referred to as the Mall or the Money Trap). This raid was led by an all female force armed with cash, checks and credit cards which we had thought would be sufficiently armed to fully recon the LYB's positions there. The battle raged hotly for several hours. A successful withdrawal was arranged after the Amazon Bde reported they ran out of checks, cash and shoe store shacks to raid. A flash report shows that every textile based item in the main Mall area was either tried on or handled. Many were purchased and are being brought in for further questioning. Casualties were low, but the females returned fully exhausted....as were our funds and supplies. Remind me....why do I work?

One bit of bad news...none, not one, sporting good area or technology/computer game source was even touched. Other than a side raid on the telecommunications shack, we were unable to even get a whiff of what the LYBs have for weapons tech in the area.

I was informed, that after a good night's rest, the Amazons are planning another raid to completely shut the place down.

Again I asked, Why do I work?


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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:15:02 PM   
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We'll be going widdershins about Oz.


But that's the opposite direction in the Southern Hemisphere...

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:17:00 PM   
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For me my priorities will be:

1. Keeping up the supply shuttle to Port Hedland. If we can keep the troops supplies with bullets and bully beef they'll be a lot harder to dislodge.


Congratulations on achieving your first objective! They are impossible to dislodge - they're surrounded.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:37:27 PM   
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The troops are prepped for Katy and ready to go.

I have good news to report. We sent in a recon in force on the Katy Outer islands on the west side of Houston yesterday (sometimes referred to as the Mall or the Money Trap). This raid was led by an all female force armed with cash, checks and credit cards which we had thought would be sufficiently armed to fully recon the LYB's positions there. The battle raged hotly for several hours. A successful withdrawal was arranged after the Amazon Bde reported they ran out of checks, cash and shoe store shacks to raid. A flash report shows that every textile based item in the main Mall area was either tried on or handled. Many were purchased and are being brought in for further questioning. Casualties were low, but the females returned fully exhausted....as were our funds and supplies. Remind me....why do I work?

One bit of bad news...none, not one, sporting good area or technology/computer game source was even touched. Other than a side raid on the telecommunications shack, we were unable to even get a whiff of what the LYBs have for weapons tech in the area.

I was informed, that after a good night's rest, the Amazons are planning another raid to completely shut the place down.

Again I asked, Why do I work?


Think of it this way. You are doing your part on the consumer spending figures. If they go up, the Dear Leader has a better chance of getting re-elected. I would like to be the first to thank you.

Money don’t get everything it’s true.
What it don’t get I can’t use.
So gimme money that’s what I want
A little money that’s what I want
That’s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That’s what I want.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:43:37 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		In other news, I have just realized I did not send an AA unit to Dobo. I had one prepped but they were in Townsville. D'oh.

The Society of Helens and Sallys paid visits.

Morning Air attack on 1st USN Naval Construction Battalion, at 83,116 (Dobo)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 23



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

The Sallys did not do much damage. Sadly, I will have to watch the combat replay and see were they were coming from.

A Dutch sub found a juicy replenishment task force.

Sub attack near Roti at 66,118

Japanese Ships
AO Nippon Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AO Naruto
APD Shimakaze
DD Yukaze

Allied Ships
SS KXV

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:47:38 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		I think JJ evacuated the major units from New Caledonia long ago. Here is a recon bombing raid from the spanking new level 6 airfield on Tanna.

Morning Air attack on 45th JNAF AF Unit , at 113,156 (Koumac)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-29 Hudson x 10


No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 46th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 45th JNAF AF Unit ...

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:49:12 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Morning Air attack on 43rd JNAF AF Unit , at 120,154 (Efate)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
A-20A1 Havoc x 12
P-40B Warhawk x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Aircraft Attacking:
12 x A-20A1 Havoc bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 41st JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 43rd JNAF AF Unit ...

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:53:01 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		When an air to ground attack goes after support troops it either means there is no combat unit or the combat unit is wrecked...in my experience...as I have not read the manual.

The corallary of this is no diversion in New Scotland or the New and Improved New Hebrides is going to work as JJ has already written off everything he has there.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 3:55:54 PM   
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The attack from Daly needs to start pretty soon if we are to go in around Chirstmas when the Aussie divs reach 50% prep.


The troops are prepped for Katy and ready to go.


Rerease the hounds!

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/4/2012 4:05:21 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		*******7th Meeting, Plenary Interagency Planning Committee For the Operation that Shall Not Be Named (PIPCOSNOBEN), Brisbane, Dec. 5, 1942(c)*******

Lt. Gen. Doubleday, SWPAC PIPCOSNOBEN Liason: ...Right, item number 112, motion picture and still photography assets to capture the landing of Admiral Nimitz. SWPAC has a skilled team ready. They will need to arrive before the Admiral, of course. There is also the question of the Admiral's arrival time. I am advised it would be best if he came ashore about an hour before sunset. This is the so-called "golden hour" when the sun takes on a warming hue. Ideas?

Col. Edson, SouPac: Sir, with all due respect, I think you may have been with SWPAC too long.

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The SWPAC way... - 3/4/2012 10:32:24 PM   
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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/4/2012 10:39:20 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/4/2012 10:41:58 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Also, AO Nippon Maru, is that one of JJ's fast fleet oilers? Do they even have such a thing? Pretend I have never looked at the Jap OOB.

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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/4/2012 10:44:21 PM   
princep01

 

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Status: offline 		I'll bet that cheap SOB is wearing flip-flops to make sure his government issue alligators don't get wet.

Cap'n, I am still laughing re your pic..."Madre de Dios!...that's got too be you, though you are looking away to disguise the disgust.

And that handsome lad standing on the LCI is no less than Lord Spior...right? Chickenboy, perhaps?

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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/4/2012 10:47:07 PM   
princep01

 

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Status: offline 		Any AO is a fleet oiler..and that one is deader than a stump. A blackened stump to boot. AMC is indeed Armed Merchant Cruiser. AKV....you got me there, but I think it is a cargo ship fitted out to service float planes. Almost anything with a V is something designed to assist aviation.

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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/5/2012 12:58:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		An AKV can (in an Air transport TF) carry planes as deck cargo, meaning that they do not get dismantled and are the same state of readiness upon unloading as when they loaded. There is a size consideration, so if the cargo capacity of the AKV is too small and the planes too large then the planes get dismantled and loaded per regular xAKs and AKs.

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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/5/2012 1:08:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		So AKV's are good for shuttling planes (esp fighters) into bases and having the fighters operating the phase after they are unloaded- they must dock to unload. Good for getting CAP up quickly- faster than you can transfer fighters in from CVE's or CV's (assuming the AKV unloads in the night phase).

Always nice to see an AO go up (and then down)

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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/5/2012 1:47:02 AM   
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And that handsome lad standing on the LCI is no less than Lord Spior


I kind of figure the chap with the pith helmet is the Lord Admiral himself.

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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/5/2012 1:49:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

OK, what the hell is an AKV? And an AMC (armed merchant cruiser?)?

A little more on the AMC - basically a fairly big, fast merchie on which they bolted some single mount guns - usually 6" caliber and maybe some rudimentary rangefinding equipment. They were designed to fight enemy AMCs or chase off surfaced submarines. They usually lose in any battle with a purpose-designed warship.
Origins were in WWI when the Germans used merchant vessels with hidden guns to attack merchant ships sailing alone [worldwide, not just near Germany] so the British disguised some merchant ships with guns to try to trap them, and later to trap U-boats [which used to surface and let the crew disembark before sinking a ship].
RE: the AKV - aircraft were not just deck cargo - any xAK can be used for that- they had larger hatches and winches so they could stow the aircraft below without dismantling them. They also had reinforced beams on the deck-head [ceiling for landlubbers] from which they could sling aircraft to increase capacity.
They can be used to carry just cargo but would not load as much as an ordinary xAK of the same size.

Edit - PS: for more on AMCs check out the heroism of Jervis Bay and Rawalpindi against BCs Scharnhorst & Gneisenau and pocket battleship Admiral Scheer. [Can't remember which AMC fought which German warships but both were hopeless and magnificent efforts that saved most of their convoys].
For the German side check out the exploits of AMC Kormoran.

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RE: The SWPAC way... - 3/5/2012 8:19:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Armed merchant cruisers from an Allied perspective were used on convoy duties but due to lack of armour plating, poor main guns and slow speed were no match for warships. Also, ten Allied AMCs were lost to U-Boats in the Atlantic during the war.

HMS Rawalpindi bumped smack into Scharnhorst and Gneisenau on 3 November 1939 SE of Iceland. She attempted to lay down smoke to escape but Scharnhorst fired a warning across her bows, but the captain of Rawalpindi ignored the order to stop and the Germans fired 11-inch shells at her from 10,000 yards. The British ship refused to surrender and opened fire with four 6" guns. HMS Rawalpindi managed to fight off Scharnhorst and Gneisenau for a full 40 minutes before abandon ship was ordered. Her captain, Kennedy E.C. (KIA) was Mentioned in Dispatches.

HMS Jervis Bay was sole escort for Convoy HX 84, sailing from Halifax to the UK. Waiting for the convoy was German pocket battleship Admiral Scheer.

Lookouts on Jervis Bay sighted an unknown ship on 5 November 1940 which turned out to be Admiral Scheer which fired an 11-inch broadside from 16,000 yards. Cpt. Fegan, E.S.F., order the convoy to scatter and started laying smoke. He opened fire with the 6-inch guns but the German ship was still out of range. 11-inch shells hit the bridge of Jervis Bay, destroying gunnery control and taking Fegan's arm. The ship continued firing at the Admiral Scheer but quickly sank. Time was bought for the majority of the convoy to escape (Admiral Scheer only managed to sink a further five ships). Fegan was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/5/2012 2:44:51 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Cargo lift capacity required tp carry tanks and trucks, artillery and heavy equipt. for assualt troops:

15K at Melbourne

23K at Sydney

A few thousand more if you count some Seabees and a small assault unit for Bathurst Is and some AA for Darwin.

That will consume all of our fast xAK's and fast AK's. I figure we can load some 12kt xAK with supplies and start them 2 days earlier. More fast AK's coming down from Townsville and Horn Is.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/5/2012 8:59:11 PM   
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All this talk about reality and AMCs makes me want to break in with some much needed unreality.

I had a Japanese AMC sink the CA Salt Lake with a single penetrating (!) shot that set off a magazine in my AI game (Ironman - maybe they juiced up the AMCs). One of those 15cm YM something or other jobbies.

The AMC did not survive to tell the tale.

Some AMCs have troop capacity so you can use them in amph tfs and those 6inch guns can maybe do some suppression. (but probably have the same upload rate as xAPs - I'd have to look in the manual!)

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 2:26:29 AM   
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All this talk about reality and AMCs makes me want to break in with some much needed unreality.

I had a Japanese AMC sink the CA Salt Lake with a single penetrating (!) shot that set off a magazine in my AI game (Ironman - maybe they juiced up the AMCs). One of those 15cm YM something or other jobbies.

The AMC did not survive to tell the tale.

Some AMCs have troop capacity so you can use them in amph tfs and those 6inch guns can maybe do some suppression. (but probably have the same upload rate as xAPs - I'd have to look in the manual!)

Not so unreal - the German AMC Kormoran sank CL Sydney with gunfire and torpedos - Sydney blew up when fires reached her magazines, but not before fatally damaging Kormoran. There were no survivors from Sydney. See link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_between_HMAS_Sydney_and_German_auxiliary_cruiser_Kormoran

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 5:13:39 AM   
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Capt Mandrake your last three posts seem to indicate that there is a detailed plan brewing for the invasion of Darwin. This seems somewhat at odds with the AAR and risks informing your readers that you've actually planned (despite evidence to the contrary) some of the actions reported with much slapstick and mirth on the preceding pages.



I agree. Paying attention to planning? Reading the manual? In other words, doing everything opposite from what has made this thread great?

It's like you suddenly decided to put square headlights on a Jeep, or introduce "New Coke" as the replacement for Rum at the Bali Hai Dance Club.

Not good.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 6:37:15 AM   
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It's hard to use AMCs in a raiding role as they were used historically (i.e. wolves in sheep's clothing) since search planes will report them as being armed and then it's pointless.

Instead I use them in exactly that role, carrying troops or supplies in an invasion TF and using it's armament to suppress shore defenses.

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 5:10:52 PM   
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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 5:12:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moondawggie

It's like you suddenly decided to put square headlights on a Jeep, or introduce "New Coke" as the replacement for Rum at the Bali Hai Dance Club.

Not good.



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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 5:25:38 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 7:04:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good job making them react to you, CM and LAS. Keep them jumping!
Do you have enough at Merauke to hit their landing force plus cover/knock out the two airfields in range?

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RE: With the Wren Detachment - 3/6/2012 7:16:32 PM   
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