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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 11:51:32 AM   
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Hi Cap,

There is one thing u and the Birthday child might wana consider. Cuz of the early "scouting" in Darwin and jap gets a chance to attack there next turn. That could have the consequence that if u unload in next turn, but only "partially or what ever u might be exposed to an attack with high disruption cuz of unloading. So if u get a partial unload u might get defeated in detail.

This isnt a certain thing, depending on if he tries to attack, u unload capacity and so on. There could be merit in not unloading in the next turn, but there are dangers in it too so its not a clear cut thing. It could even work too ur advantage if he attacks and u get lots of AV offloaded. Just wanted to give a heads up.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

I'm thinking the opposite. If enough troops get ashore in good enough condition, plus the Imperials are disrupted by air attacks, then an Imperial attack could be disastrous for the Empire.


Some times i get the feeling only half i say is heard

Kind regards,

Rasmus

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 2:34:49 PM   
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The latest offer from the Apaches is a hot dog stand at Tempe stadium and 20 Winchester repeating rifles. Still too low. Looks like Admirar Rord Nerson will be staying with the Apache for a while longer.



I think I follow you. You are suggesting we get the Apaches to pay US to take him back? Do you think they really would? Perhaps if we let them have him a few more days.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 2:43:19 PM   
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Some times i get the feeling only half i say is heard

Kind regards,

Rasmus


In medicine we consider it a major success if people listen to half of what we say. Even worse, half of the advice will be proven wrong in 5 years.


Unless we spot Musashi coming in, I think we will push ahead with the landing as the tranpsorts are loaded at 35-45%, allowing the bulk to get ashore on day 1 (or in this case day 2). The fighters on the carriers are getting tired and the attack on Wyndham was quite effective so probably the B-24's can go over to ground attack on Darwin today.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 3:08:10 PM   
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Which question am I supposed to be answering?

If you're refering to the targeting question then I worked on the launch systems, not fire control. However why would you do this if you're target wasn't defended by ABMs when both sides were only allowed one ABM site and the Russian Galosh system was around a place beginning with M?


Ah..so you targeted "L" then?


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If you're refering to your question then it's okay because:

a. Nobody likes officers and
b. We came back in 1814 and burned down the Whitehouse:



So you admit the War of 1812 was really about payback?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 3:20:38 PM   
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So you admit the War of 1812 was really about payback?


No, it was about you lot wanting Canada.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 3:58:15 PM   
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So you admit the War of 1812 was really about payback?


No, it was about you lot wanting Canada.


and I thought it had to do with the Crowns displeasure with the US trading with France, the Crowns Impressment of US ships and crew, and the Crown's support of an asymetrical conflict with US expansion? We have a long history of "going all in" escalating things from LIC to MIC

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 4:00:44 PM   
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Hi Cap,

There is one thing u and the Birthday child might wana consider. Cuz of the early "scouting" in Darwin and jap gets a chance to attack there next turn. That could have the consequence that if u unload in next turn, but only "partially or what ever u might be exposed to an attack with high disruption cuz of unloading. So if u get a partial unload u might get defeated in detail.

This isnt a certain thing, depending on if he tries to attack, u unload capacity and so on. There could be merit in not unloading in the next turn, but there are dangers in it too so its not a clear cut thing. It could even work too ur advantage if he attacks and u get lots of AV offloaded. Just wanted to give a heads up.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

I'm thinking the opposite. If enough troops get ashore in good enough condition, plus the Imperials are disrupted by air attacks, then an Imperial attack could be disastrous for the Empire.


Some times i get the feeling only half i say is heard

Kind regards,

Rasmus

Limited brain capacity - only one thought per post read!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 4:19:50 PM   
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b. We came back in 1814 and burned down the Whitehouse:



26 hours? Quite the conquest.

Looks like we had a Kamikaze of our own to help out:

Less than a day after the attack began, a sudden heavy thunderstorm put out most of the fires. It also spun off a tornado that passed through part of the city, killing British troops and American civilians alike, and tossing cannons.[22] The storm forced the British troops to return to their ships, many of which were badly damaged; the occupation of Washington lasted only about 26 hours.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 4:21:29 PM   
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tossing cannons


Isn't that illegal?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 4:41:09 PM   
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Isn't that illegal?

No, it is similar to Caber throws. We actually got the idea from your side of the pond.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 5:03:21 PM   
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Isn't that illegal?

No, it is similar to Caber throws. We actually got the idea from your side of the pond.


Tornadoes create their own laws ..an F5 will toss cannons & cabers at the same time .Tornadoes are.even known for creating their own laws of physics

http://charles-chandler.org/Geophysics/Tornadoes.php?text=full

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 5:19:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the original said "tossing cookies" but poor penmanship, quill pens and watery ink led readers to think the writer meant cannons ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 5:23:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I think we're all in agreement that we can refer to RN seamen of the time as "tossers" based upon this historic tornado. Am I right?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 5:24:32 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 5:34:10 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 5:41:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Before you judge the Highlanders bravely assaulting uphill, note that they are led by a British officer [evidenced by the lack of kilt] who is calling for afternoon tea to be brought up ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 6:17:32 PM   
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Highlanders...pfft...





Was Jackson's head really that small or did all the Engrish officer's have melon heads?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 8:06:06 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 9:33:31 PM   
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We have two 6350 ton AE's headed for Gove (which is still a level 0 "port"). Are we going to be able to rearm the 16 inch guns of Washington and Indiana there?

I think somebody answered this in the more general sense but I was drinking at the time and can't remember.


The above as asked about 4 pages back. No one appears to have answered it.

It isn't the tonnage displacement which matters; it is the cargo carrying capacity which does.

Iowa class 16" guns need an AE/AKE with a cargo capacity of 5400 for a reload.
Other 16" guns need an AE/AKE with a cargo capacity of 4480 to reload.

These are the two largest Allied gun rearming supply hogs.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 10:24:20 PM   
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a British officer [evidenced by the lack of kilt]


Scottish officers never wore kilts, they wore trews. Only the Other Ranks qualify as Jocks in frocks.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/6/2012 10:27:41 PM   
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Caber throws.


They're tossed. By burly men in skirts.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/7/2012 11:51:02 AM   
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The latest offer from the Apaches is a hot dog stand at Tempe stadium and 20 Winchester repeating rifles. Still too low. Looks like Admirar Rord Nerson will be staying with the Apache for a while longer.



I think I follow you. You are suggesting we get the Apaches to pay US to take him back? Do you think they really would? Perhaps if we let them have him a few more days.



Correct- the question you have to ask yourself is- how much would it take beforey you'd take him back?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/7/2012 3:25:24 PM   
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This is MUCH longer than it usually takes Rord Admirar Fabertong to do his part. This means:

A) He is suffering from a severe case of the piles and he had to do the turn standing up

or

B) He has crafted an intricate rebuttal..either a brutal counterattack by the Little Yellow Bastards or the beginning a "redeployment".

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/7/2012 4:04:43 PM   
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a British officer [evidenced by the lack of kilt]


Scottish officers never wore kilts, they wore trews. Only the Other Ranks qualify as Jocks in frocks.

Very well then, his preference for a dinky longsword over a Claymore marks him English, n'est-ce pas?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 1:52:09 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 6:27:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turns out the Amphib group DID make Darwin even though the BB had used 750 op points??? Go figure.

The fighters are getting fatigued. Tally Ho!






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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 9:08:25 PM   
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Yamato does not show up on the sunk list.






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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 9:10:47 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 9:13:01 PM   
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Turns out the Amphib group DID make Darwin even though the BB had used 750 op points??? Go figure.



Looks like a "friendly" offensive minefield laid on Bathurst (you know you DO have to attack there to capture the dot hex, eh?). This may be dangerous for your ships migrating through the Eastern passage to Darwin. Heads up on that.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 5/8/2012 9:20:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		The poor Torres St. Bn was not adequately prepped and is down to 6 AV ashore on Bathurst. That is one Verey pistol and two Lee-Enfield's with 12 rounds of ammo. That may be enough if Fr. O'Brien does not put up further resistance.

Neither of the minefields West of Darwin did not happen for some reason...I think the Jap DD.

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