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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 7:54:55 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 7:55:56 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 8:03:28 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 8:18:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I'm being a bit too esoteric with the jargon. In this sense, namely TV shows, "canned" means "formula" which means some dudes got together and dreamt up a show that would make money, and it went something like this:
"So, we need to make some money, dudes. What should we do?"
"Let's get a girl with big tits, she doesn't need to know how to act, and we'll add a couple of real actors who we give some lines."
"Okay, I'm cool with that, but what's the show about?"
"Well, it's about sex, but we can't actually put any sex in it because this is America and it's TV."
"Okay, I'm good with that, but why can't we have four or five girls with big tits?'"
"Well, the studio is putting us on a really tight leash as far as expenditures go."
"Sounds like a plan."

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 8:27:04 PM   
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I see you're from Naughtyham, Sprior. I couldn't agree with you more. Here in the states corned beef and cabbage is the main staple on St. Pattie's Day. We export all our spam to Canada, they love it!


Of course Canadians love it - we resell it to M&M Enterprises who send it to the Far East. Almost as good as dog, there.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 8:31:52 PM   
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I see you're from Naughtyham, Sprior. I couldn't agree with you more. Here in the states corned beef and cabbage is the main staple on St. Pattie's Day. We export all our spam to Canada, they love it!


Of course Canadians love it - we resell it to M&M Enterprises who send it to the Far East. Almost as good as dog, there.

You are aware that the Chinese add melamine to it and ship it back to Canada as baby formula?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 8:46:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

I see you're from Naughtyham, Sprior. I couldn't agree with you more. Here in the states corned beef and cabbage is the main staple on St. Pattie's Day. We export all our spam to Canada, they love it!


Of course Canadians love it - we resell it to M&M Enterprises who send it to the Far East. Almost as good as dog, there.

You are aware that the Chinese add melamine to it and ship it back to Canada as baby formula?

Yeah, but we caught on to that scheme so now we extract the melamine and turn it into picnic dishes and send the rest as foreign aid to various third world countries. Does our noble hearts proud!
PS - ever wonder why shipping companies are still doing well? Just follow the Spam ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 8:52:39 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 8:53:13 PM   
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Rasmus

P.S I want to publicly apologiese to Cap and Sprior. The discourse in this thread hasnt improved since i started posting, tho i ofc blame Cap and not my self. Thats the joy of being infallible. <insert big ego>

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 9:13:39 PM   
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So world trade is actually one big ponzi scheme?

Rasmus

P.S I want to publicly apologiese to Cap and Sprior. The discourse in this thread hasnt improved since i started posting, tho i ofc blame Cap and not my self. Thats the joy of being infallible. <insert big ego>


Well, if recently the discourse stinks, that would be more my fault, not yours. I think I'll shut up now.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 9:38:57 PM   
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PM send to Geoff,

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 11:21:36 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/15/2012 11:45:25 PM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 12:02:37 AM   
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Well i cant speak for Geoff, only my self. If only u knew....

Rasmus


Well, youre Danish, so it comes with the territory.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 3:44:45 AM   
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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 4:36:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yoiks -they have the heavily populated area smack against the side of the volcano?! Is M&M Enterprises doing real estate there too??

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 2:46:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		*****************Jan 29, 1943(c)*************

Manadao: Detroit and Caradoc miss the incoming transports, but the SBD's find juicy targets.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 70,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
SBD-3 Dauntless x 16


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Tenryu Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
PB Aso Maru #3, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

And this. They seem not to have troops aboard.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Manado at 75,99

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
SBD-3 Dauntless x 76


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AMC Kiyosumi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Shiyo Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Gokoku Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Joyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Wakaba, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Ariake

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 2:53:47 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Manado at 75,99

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 31
SBD-3 Dauntless x 44


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AMC Kiyosumi Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
DD Wakaba, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
DD Ariake, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk


1 hit out of every 3 sorties. Not bad. And now, the USMC Para Bn..or at least part of it. There weren't enough transports. The good news. No fighter CAP and we missed to volcano. The bad news...there were 6000+ LYB's. Oops. LUCY! Joo got some 'splaining to do! Even so, they destroyed more LYB's than they lost....but I fear the surprise element may be lost.

Ground combat at Manado (75,99)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 240 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Defending force 6380 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 185

Assault collapses, attacking force wiped out

Japanese ground losses:
324 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1



Assaulting units:
3rd USMC Parachute Bn /3

Defending units:
17th Garrison Unit
9th JNAF Coy
44th Field AA Battalion
3rd JNAF AF Unit
68th JAAF AF Bn

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 3:02:03 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Lautem: There are Bettys down South, probably from Flores? I doubt anything is flying from Kopeang. Either way, they are misplaced. The LYB's are one isrand behind. Waste of perfectly good Zeroes and Bettys....same almost...OK, I'm over it.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 72,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
A6M3a Zero x 8
G4M1 Betty x 6


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
PT-184
LCM 532D

Some Sallys do manage to sink an LCVP with some engineers aboard.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 72,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5



Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LCM 532D
YMS-133
LCVP 532N, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled





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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 3:06:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kendari: No CAP. Bunch of AK's in harbor...don't know why there were sitting there.

Morning Air attack on Kendari , at 70,106

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 47


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Teikin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Tyoyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Kaimei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Kaisyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire



Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13
Port hits 1

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 3:08:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ternate: 503rd PIR had the easier task, it seems. A Level one airfield falls. Don't know about suppry yet. Looks like the RCT will land at Ternate and we will come back with more firepower for Manado. Shame about the Pete. Somebody was a little trigger-happy.

Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 250 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 15

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ternate !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
503rd Parachute Rgt /1

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 3:14:39 PM   
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I am so old I went to a taping of that show (tickets were free)

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 3:16:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		In China, Rord Admirar Nerson takes over for one day and turns loose the hounds. Santa Maria!

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/16/2012 4:14:42 PM   
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In China, Rord Admirar Nerson takes over for one day and turns loose the hounds. Santa Maria!

That's OK - the Chinese are hungry and dogs are OK on the menu there ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/17/2012 2:57:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ever since the last time change, the clock in my car is 1 hr ahead (actually about 62 minutes). Now, this has not been a big deal because I KNOW it's one hr ahead. Also I pride myself in being familiar with the natural world..like when the sun will peak over hill x in position y...yada yada.

Anyway, I get in my car last week,figuring I will stop at McD for the 2 sausage egg McMuffin deal...about 900 calories for only $3.50..and then I see the time...HORY CRAP! I AM SO LATE! I slide the transmission into the torquey gears and mash the throttle. I pray when I pass the ususal CHIP hangouts. I half park and run into the office. I scare the crap out of my staff.

It seems the baaahhhstards at the BMW dealership reset my clock without telling me....so I arrived 1/2 hr early for work instead of my usual 1/2 hr late. ******* compulsive Germans.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/17/2012 3:10:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also, there is this. So I get on the elevator yesterday at the hopstial and some POS has scratched his initials into the polished aluminum control panel ..completely defaced it. Now, I can't say for sure I would let the orthopedists off the hook, but more likely it is some ignorant homey with no self worth.

I find myself saying, "Goddamn vandals". Then I think, "Wait, I don't really have anything against the Vandals. I don't think I ever met one. Why isn't it called "visigothism"?"



********************Appian Way, 180 AD*****************


Centurian: Right, which one of you toe-rags defaced this Dorian column?

Vandal: It were him, the Visigoth

Visigoth: No, he's lying. You know those Vandals.

Vandal: Was not.

Visigoth: Was too.

Vandal: Visigoth scum.

Visigoth: <draws sword and runs through his debate partner who collapses wide-eyed in death> The Vandals did it.

Centurian: Right, I will need your statement then.

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/17/2012 5:46:26 PM   
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Also, there is this. So I get on the elevator yesterday at the hopstial and some POS has scratched his initials into the polished aluminum control panel ..completely defaced it. Now, I can't say for sure I would let the orthopedists off the hook, but more likely it is some ignorant homey with no self worth.

I find myself saying, "Goddamn vandals". Then I think, "Wait, I don't really have anything against the Vandals. I don't think I ever met one. Why isn't it called "visigothism"?"



********************Appian Way, 180 AD*****************


Centurian: Right, which one of you toe-rags defaced this Dorian column?


Vandal: It were him, the Visigoth

Visigoth: No, he's lying. You know those Vandals.

Vandal: Was not.

Visigoth: Was too.

Vandal: Visigoth scum.

Visigoth: <draws sword and runs through his debate partner who collapses wide-eyed in death> The Vandals did it.

Centurian: Right, I will need your statement then.

Always wondered the same thing about Vandals and vandalism but lacked the imagination to figure out how it likely happened. Did Lesbos get attributed its "ism" after a cat-fight??
And the time warps in WWII (c) keep expanding ...

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/17/2012 6:06:14 PM   
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Also, there is this. So I get on the elevator yesterday at the hopstial and some POS has scratched his initials into the polished aluminum control panel ..completely defaced it. Now, I can't say for sure I would let the orthopedists off the hook, but more likely it is some ignorant homey with no self worth.

I find myself saying, "Goddamn vandals". Then I think, "Wait, I don't really have anything against the Vandals. I don't think I ever met one. Why isn't it called "visigothism"?"



********************Appian Way, 180 AD*****************


Centurian: Right, which one of you toe-rags defaced this Dorian column?

Vandal: It were him, the Visigoth

Visigoth: No, he's lying. You know those Vandals.

Vandal: Was not.

Visigoth: Was too.

Vandal: Visigoth scum.

Visigoth: <draws sword and runs through his debate partner who collapses wide-eyed in death> The Vandals did it.

Centurian: Right, I will need your statement then.


That'll teach me to pay attention. First time I read it I saw 'Appian Way 180". My first though was, "how does Mandrake know the postal address of the Roman senate building?"

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/17/2012 6:23:16 PM   
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You sure Clive Owen and his Sarmatian Knights werent involved?

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RE: Hearts and Minds - 8/17/2012 7:20:45 PM   
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Now, I can't say for sure I would let the orthopedists off the hook


That's a good point. They do have some excellent titanium screws and pins that would do a magnificent job at cutting / etching other metals. Plus they're the cavemen of the physician world. HIT LEG WITH HAMMER! URGH!

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