Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

If you'd put out sarcasm...but what you do is no sarcasm in my opinion, at least not in any form I have seen. Negative vibes, so to speak.

How about thinking something positive for a while? "Game stinks cos I lost X planes vs. XX" is how it seems to come out. That is not constructive criticism, or criticism at all but something else. Even when with evidence, it makes people really biased about what one has to say.

Also, it might have skipped attention, that AE devs, at least to my knowledge, are not paid for their work, but do this in addition to their normal day jobs, like The Elf, who is USN fighter pilot, IIRC. Demanding commercial-level response from people who made AE out of their goodwill and love of WitP and putting out constantly negative posts about game is not going to endear you among those who contributed to the game...for free.

Maybe you should consider some things and count to 10 before posting...I know it helps me.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Frank

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

and after a couple of hours and many more hits into this thread I can only wonder by myselve why not even one has commented on the quote I pulled out from Cuttlefish´s AAR that shows 130 Allied ac being shot down in late 42 for 3 (in words three) Zeros lost.

But this is probably due to me doing the wording wrong again

Hey, Castor, now please, col down a littel bit. Where is the Austrian Schmäh, your people is so famous for?

I have to support you on this one. Killing about 130 allied planes for 3 Zeroes is over the top. There weren´t any Patriot batteries there?

I´m running out of my "Schmäh" when I see such results. Me being more a Bavarian than an Eastern Austrian I don´t have that much of "Schmäh" anyway.

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ORIGINAL: Frank

Now, gentlemen, please.

Would you all please stop hacking on each other?
We are all adults here, so may I apall to each of you to behave this way?

Castor found strange results and was pissed.
The Elf thought the results were so off, that one might have realised, that there was a game mechanics breakdown because of gamer abuse, instead of claiming the game was flawed per se.
mjk wanted to calm down people but somehow became a collateral damage.

So, please be good boys now and don´t screem on each other anymore, thanks.

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ORIGINAL: EUBanana
...However, I think castor troy has a point, as people all slogpile him. And it's kinda one sided slogpiling too, there was huge amounts of bitching about Zeroes on this board from JFBs when the game was released. What they said appears to have been taken on board by the devs as it sure isn't that way now after all the patches.

Here's some moaning at Zeroes not destroying the world at a glance :-

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2232545

On top of that there are these lame old canards being brought out, like in the 'Allied fighters suck' thread. 'You're playing it wrong'. No, they really do suck!

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ORIGINAL: pompack

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ORIGINAL: Frank

Now, gentlemen, please.

Would you all please stop hacking on each other?
We are all adults here, so may I apall to each of you to behave this way?

Castor found strange results and was pissed.
The Elf thought the results were so off, that one might have realised, that there was a game mechanics breakdown because of gamer abuse, instead of claiming the game was flawed per se.
mjk wanted to calm down people but somehow became a collateral damage.

So, please be good boys now and don´t screem on each other anymore, thanks.

I stand with what I said earlier. Some people coontribute and make life better for all of us. Others simply can't deal with that and are only happy when they can belittle the few that actually contribute

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ORIGINAL: Smeulders
I've seen you say this before, but can you actually back this up ? I'm not aware of major changes to plane stats or the air models with the patches (Although I may just not have read the patch notes thoroughly enough, feel free to prove me wrong). I'm also still seeing AAR where the P-40s are pretty much going 1 on 1 with the zeroes.

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ORIGINAL: Frank


It isn´t the topic, which made peolpe explode all over teh place, it was the mood (word?), that was so off a normal discussion. It isn´t what was said, but how it was said (just a try to make more understandable, what I want to say).

USS St. Louis firing on Guam, July 1944. The Cardinals and Browns faced each other in the World Series that year

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ORIGINAL: Frank

Thanks for clarification!

USS St. Louis firing on Guam, July 1944. The Cardinals and Browns faced each other in the World Series that year

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

But the oversensitivity especially in this thread is getting laughable too though (and I´m not pointing at the Elf with this comment). This forum is the best forum I know but even here, I´ve seen hundreds of threads with name calling and comments that have been so much further off the line than the sarcasm I put into this thread. Delete 60% of the threads then because those had worse thread titles than "good to know Uber Cap is gone". What is it? Name calling? Impolite? But hey, we can of course go on posting toes or stuff like that.

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

But the oversensitivity especially in this thread is getting laughable too though (and I´m not pointing at the Elf with this comment). This forum is the best forum I know but even here, I´ve seen hundreds of threads with name calling and comments that have been so much further off the line than the sarcasm I put into this thread. Delete 60% of the threads then because those had worse thread titles than "good to know Uber Cap is gone". What is it? Name calling? Impolite? But hey, we can of course go on posting toes or stuff like that.

Are you kidding us? Sc**w you Castor, you used to be a much nicer AND honest person. Like if you hadn't been an ass for days on this stuff. Are you really convinced yourself when you believe "good to know Uber Cap is gone" can summarize the size of the unbelievable tank of sh*t you've been unleashing for a week?
You keep on calling people who give up oversensitive, while you merely told them they have been doing crap, and that you've got robbed when you bought AE, that you regret you left Witp? Oh yes, go back to Witp and leave us damn sinners alone and HAPPY. Damn it you spoiled kid, don't go back to Witp, go back to counter-strike instead and leave us grown-ups alone!

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

Well, uh, no, really, not exactly chap. Im not sure that there's anything "much further off the line" than telling a game-maker he did complete useless ****, and that you'll be better off playing the old game. Especially when you go on saying so over and over again.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

Well, uh, no, really, not exactly chap. Im not sure that there's anything "much further off the line" than telling a game-maker he did complete useless ****, and that you'll be better off playing the old game. Especially when you go on saying so over and over again.

funny though what you imply in what I´ve said...

well, I don´t care being the booh booh, at least I´m not one of the brown nosers..

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I don't blame him for it though. It comes down to this: You're entitled to your opinions about how the game is or isn't broken/unrealistic.

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ORIGINAL: Mynok


If people would just green button these louts, this crap wouldn't happen. Can't you recognize a troll when you smell him?

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I think we need to end this thread for good or ill its become personal Joe can we lock it please I understand and respect all views expressed (those that arent personal) but I think this thread has run its course.

In case Joe isnt around can I ask everyone to take a step back calm down and stop posting in this thread.

Castor you have the right to your view I think the thread demonstrates that some peiople don't agree and some people do - I think we should leave it at that

Now as I said can we all please just step back.

Andy

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Andy, I agree with yours and Faber´s post. So tell ´em... While I´ve not started the name calling, other do and I had never had a problem to chime in when the name calling starts as I don´t have any respect for those peple you know. Complaining, ranting, saying you don´t like something is one thing, starting name calling is the other. And while some people like the oh so great Fishbed starts to call me some very nice things I didn´t so far. All I do is telling him that he´s a poor human being as he doesn´t seem to recognize that 130 Allied ac of all advanced types shot down for 3 Zeros in late 42 is far from a good result. I had a problem with the Dutch result and I did not agree with the result. Most people did, not all. Up to that point, I didn´t even realize where the problem was. It was already there though, because I brought in the bad mood to the forum, the world and the universe in it´s whole.

If people actually would read what I´ve said pages ago, they would have seen that I´ve apologised a dozen times for the WAY I´ve posted. I won´t apologise for posting though. So they go on calling me all those nice things and I don´t even have a problem with it because it just shows me how stupid they really are.

I have no problem to piss off people in a dozen every day if they want to get pissed off. But when I look at how much BS was posted here over years, I have once again to say that I´m more than just surprised to have thrown not just a hand grenade but a H-bomb it seems. Oh how could I dare. Oh how guilty I am that I am the one who´s responsible for The Elf to leave. And how glad I am to know (from a third party) how the development was going and how many times the developers have quit. And all this, without stupid castor troy doing one of his H-bomb dev scare away posts.

Ridicoulos, but go on pointing at me. Joe should have locked this thread long ago, blame me for not sending him a pm to do so.

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ORIGINAL: Fishbed

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Andy, I agree with yours and Faber´s post. So tell ´em... While I´ve not started the name calling, other do and I had never had a problem to chime in when the name calling starts as I don´t have any respect for those peple you know. Complaining, ranting, saying you don´t like something is one thing, starting name calling is the other. And while some people like the oh so great Fishbed starts to call me some very nice things I didn´t so far. All I do is telling him that he´s a poor human being as he doesn´t seem to recognize that 130 Allied ac of all advanced types shot down for 3 Zeros in late 42 is far from a good result. I had a problem with the Dutch result and I did not agree with the result. Most people did, not all. Up to that point, I didn´t even realize where the problem was. It was already there though, because I brought in the bad mood to the forum, the world and the universe in it´s whole.

If people actually would read what I´ve said pages ago, they would have seen that I´ve apologised a dozen times for the WAY I´ve posted. I won´t apologise for posting though. So they go on calling me all those nice things and I don´t even have a problem with it because it just shows me how stupid they really are.

I have no problem to piss off people in a dozen every day if they want to get pissed off. But when I look at how much BS was posted here over years, I have once again to say that I´m more than just surprised to have thrown not just a hand grenade but a H-bomb it seems. Oh how could I dare. Oh how guilty I am that I am the one who´s responsible for The Elf to leave. And how glad I am to know (from a third party) how the development was going and how many times the developers have quit. And all this, without stupid castor troy doing one of his H-bomb dev scare away posts.

Ridicoulos, but go on pointing at me. Joe should have locked this thread long ago, blame me for not sending him a pm to do so.

Castor troll, I must say I am astonished. I wonder if your Alps can actually cope with the level of your vanity, cuz it seems even the Everest wouldn't be high enough not to get overwhelmed...
Kuddos, that makes for good laughs, at least, but how grim a life you must live out there... Im outta there - you're right, you smell way too terrible for my brown nose. Even the trolls I know wouldn't dare to tell us about how they "should ask Joe to lock the thread because of the people behaving badly in my innocent and fair discussion". Looks like everyone at Matrix Games is supposed to be your bitch my hero... Hope you design games as well as you complain, so we shall soon have some award winning stuff out there.


>> mjk428: saw it, not blind yet. But now that the harm is done, please allow purchasers who don't agree with Castor troll's policy when it comes to help Matrix Games manage its human resources to express themselves.