Matrix Games Forums

 Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Japanese PT Boats?

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> Japanese PT Boats? Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Japanese PT Boats? - 5/2/2010 6:54:24 PM   
Footslogger


Posts: 1232
Joined: 10/9/2008
From: Washington USA
Status: offline 		Did the Japanese have PT Boats? If so, what did they look like?
Post #: 1
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/2/2010 7:46:42 PM   
Terminus


Posts: 41459
Joined: 4/23/2005
From: Denmark
Status: offline 		Like the ones in the game.

_____________________________

We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.

(in reply to Footslogger)
Post #: 2
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/2/2010 8:16:12 PM   
Footslogger


Posts: 1232
Joined: 10/9/2008
From: Washington USA
Status: offline 		Well... I was looking for a photo if anyone had one

(in reply to Terminus)
Post #: 3
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/2/2010 9:02:53 PM   
tocaff


Posts: 4781
Joined: 10/12/2006
From: USA now in Brasil
Status: offline 		Didn't they build them with rice paper instead of plywood?

_____________________________

Todd

I never thought that doing an AAR would be so time consuming and difficult.
www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2080768

(in reply to Footslogger)
Post #: 4
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/2/2010 9:32:58 PM   
Skipjack_


Posts: 208
Joined: 12/7/2008
Status: offline 		Here is one from wiki:

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_torpedo_boat_Tomozuru



< Message edited by Skipjack_ -- 5/2/2010 9:33:08 PM >

(in reply to tocaff)
Post #: 5
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/2/2010 9:55:38 PM   
Tiornu

 

Posts: 1126
Joined: 4/1/2004
Status: offline 		Tomozuru was not an MTB. She was a torpedo boat. The Japanese built MTBs by the hundreds, which didn't make them worthwhile. The Japanese had the worst MTBs among all the major navies. For them, the concept was an after thought. One of the driving forces behind the project was the MTB's anti-submarine capability--yes, the IJN actually thought the MTB was a promising anti-sub platform.

(in reply to Skipjack_)
Post #: 6
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/2/2010 11:39:09 PM   
redcoat


Posts: 1035
Joined: 8/31/2005
From: UK
Status: offline
I think the Japs mostly used their T51 (Type A Ro-gata) MTBs for anti-sub work. They were much larger than other Japanese MTB types and could carry up to eight DCs (12 DCs if no torpedoes were carried). I don’t think most Japanese MTBs had DCs.

The Japanese also used Dutch MTBs captured at Soerabaja.


_____________________________

“‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”

George Orwell, 1984

(in reply to Tiornu)
Post #: 7
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/3/2010 3:16:33 AM   
Tiornu

 

Posts: 1126
Joined: 4/1/2004
Status: offline 		The Type 51 was inspired by German S-boats, but it was a hopeless failure. All units settled into patrol and ASW for lack of anything else. But they weren't the only IJN motor boats to carry depth charges. Pretty much any MTB could carry four depth charges. So what are the chances of killing a sub with four DCs dropped from a speeding motor boat?

(in reply to redcoat)
Post #: 8
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/3/2010 4:14:55 AM   
Q-Ball


Posts: 7336
Joined: 6/25/2002
From: Chicago, Illinois
Status: offline 		Tomozuru, I agree, is NOT an IJN MTB. Different animal.

How would you fire off DC racks without Sonar equipment? How does that work exactly? I assume the MTB's didnt' have Sonar.

_____________________________


(in reply to Tiornu)
Post #: 9
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/3/2010 4:31:37 AM   
Tiornu

 

Posts: 1126
Joined: 4/1/2004
Status: offline 		There is another weapons system known internationally as Optimism.
There was no active sonar in World War I, just hydrophones, but plenty of sunken subs. I don't know if the Japanese MTBs even had hydrophones.

(in reply to Q-Ball)
Post #: 10
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/3/2010 1:48:15 PM   
redcoat


Posts: 1035
Joined: 8/31/2005
From: UK
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Footslogger

If so, what did they look like?


Here are a few photos of some of the main types.

Gyoraitei No. 2. A Type 1 (T 1) boat.



Photographed in Tokyo Bay sometime in late 1941. She was sunk by carrier aircraft off Tarawa on 19th September 1943.

Gyoraitei No. 14. A T51 (Type A Ro-gata) boat.



Photographed near Chiba on 11 June 1944. Probably soon after she was launched. She was found in a wrecked condition at Uraga at the end of the war.

Gyoraitei No. 241. A T38 (Type B) boat.



Photographed in Choshi Bay in May 1944. Fate unknown.

A Dutch torpedo boat in IJN service under Allied air attack near Rabaul.





_____________________________

“‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”

George Orwell, 1984

(in reply to Footslogger)
Post #: 11
RE: Japanese PT Boats? - 5/3/2010 2:13:12 PM   
treespider


Posts: 9796
Joined: 1/30/2005
From: Edgewater, MD
Status: offline 		-




Attachment (1)

_____________________________

Here's a link to:
Treespider's Grand Campaign of DBB

"It is not the critic who counts, .... The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena..." T. Roosevelt, Paris, 1910

(in reply to redcoat)
Post #: 12
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> Japanese PT Boats? Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.672