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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 12:57:45 PM

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Which name did you chose? I can't seem to find a C1-B which is eligible but not in the DBB database already...

I red-shirted Alcoa Pathfinder

. Should probably give her a withdrawal date so she can go to the Atlantic and get sunk, but heck, we gots the Alcoa Pilgrim II, and Alcoa Puritan II, so why not the Alcoa Pathfinder II too?

[ed] Ah ha, I see you found her too.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 5:23:49 PM

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ps. welcome to Homicide, Spidey.

Actually, I think it's more like welcome to the State of Alabama Repeat Offender Correctional Facility and Lunatic Asylum.

Ok, fixed the infantry and 38 DivArty (about 25 entrys). Big problem is now that the recombine/device upgrade flags have been fixed, a lot of other stuff is going into the dumper. A big one for Japan is the AT guns. You got 37mm T94s, that upgrade to 47mm T01s, and 37mm T01s that don't. Now, Divisional TO&Es have just one type of AT gun in the Device list. But then you gots a gazillion subordinate units that have a mix of all 3, and depending on which one is in the DivDevice list, you are going to have a rats nest when you recombine.

Only two ways to fix this: manually vet and edit over 287 individual units to make sure that
1) every top level unit with 37mm T94s has all subordinate units with either 37mm T94s or 47mm T01s, or every top level unit with 37mm T01s has all subordinate units with nothing but 37mm T01s; or
2) tweak the upgrade paths in the Device file so the 37mm T94s upgrade to 37mm T01s which, in turn, upgrade to 47mm T01s.

As to option 1), can you say 'no frikkin way!'
As to option 2), who gives a rat's anyway. None of them were worth much, so it won't effect the game. Why the heck not?

Think that will clear up Japan, in Babes terms; stock is gonna bite the big wazoo. Says nothing about all the whillion gazillion Allied disconnects, however. These are fixable, but require large infusions of Scotch; and not virtual Scotch, but real live, look at the sun through the golden liquid, and taste the smokey essence on the back of the tongue kinda Scotch.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 6:13:29 PM

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Some men get the world. Others get ex-hookers and a trip to Arizona.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 6:56:50 PM

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Some men get the world. Others get ex-hookers and a trip to Arizona.

Two nights at the DoubleTree. She wasn't an ex-hooker, but she did dance at the noodie bar across from Grumman.

You ever been to Arizona? You gots to head up a few thousand feet before it gets green. The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 8:12:25 PM

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The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

From which I graduated high school fifty years ago next month. The next day I joined the navy to get the hell out of Arizona.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 8:15:59 PM

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Been to Flagstaff ...nice place to visit... not sure I'd want to live there.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 8:27:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: treespider
Some men get the world. Others get ex-hookers and a trip to Arizona.

Two nights at the DoubleTree. She wasn't an ex-hooker, but she did dance at the noodie bar across from Grumman.

You ever been to Arizona? You gots to head up a few thousand feet before it gets green. The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

Come on John don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

Buck

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 8:28:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: JWE
The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

From which I graduated high school fifty years ago next month. The next day I joined the navy to get the hell out of Arizona.

You sir are an old fart. Takes one to know one.

Buck

P.S. I also joined the Navy right out of high school in 1960.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 8:39:41 PM

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Been to Flagstaff ...nice place to visit... not sure I'd want to live there.

Actually, I rather liked Prescott, however, I loved Oregon, Medford to Eugene and surrounding areas, the coast and the towns along the Columbia. Unfortunately, I am hopeless stuck in the Los Angeles area for life.

Will somebody please shoot me!

Buck

I was born in Cincinnati and raised in San Diego area.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 10:20:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

quote:

ORIGINAL: JWE
The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

From which I graduated high school fifty years ago next month. The next day I joined the navy to get the hell out of Arizona.

You sir are an old fart. Takes one to know one.

Buck

P.S. I also joined the Navy right out of high school in 1960.

Hmmm... I waited until I was two years out of high school, but that was back in '69. Does that make me an Old Fart, J.G.?? or a Geezer1C.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 10:26:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: RevRick

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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

quote:

ORIGINAL: JWE
The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

From which I graduated high school fifty years ago next month. The next day I joined the navy to get the hell out of Arizona.

You sir are an old fart. Takes one to know one.

Buck

P.S. I also joined the Navy right out of high school in 1960.

Hmmm... I waited until I was two years out of high school, but that was back in '69. Does that make me an Old Fart, J.G.?? or a Geezer1C.

I like coming here; it makes me feel young. I was born in 1963!! I had a older friend that had retired from three jobs after putting in 20,20 and 10 at each (he was old enough he only needed 10 to vest himself at the last one). Ergo, you dinosaurs are old enough to be both Old Fart (R) and Geezer (R)

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 10:41:57 PM

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Been to Flagstaff ...nice place to visit... not sure I'd want to live there.

Actually, I rather liked Prescott, however, I loved Oregon, Medford to Eugene and surrounding areas, the coast and the towns along the Columbia. Unfortunately, I am hopeless stuck in the Los Angeles area for life.

Will somebody please shoot me!

Buck

I was born in Cincinnati and raised in San Diego area.

Prescott ain't bad. Flagstaff, Pinetop, a few places in the far North East.

Oregon ain't bad either. I was a boy there, and supposedly had freckles at the time. But when we moved to Phoenix they disappeared - turned out to be rust.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 11:00:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

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ORIGINAL: treespider

Been to Flagstaff ...nice place to visit... not sure I'd want to live there.

Actually, I rather liked Prescott, however, I loved Oregon, Medford to Eugene and surrounding areas, the coast and the towns along the Columbia. Unfortunately, I am hopeless stuck in the Los Angeles area for life.

Will somebody please shoot me!

Buck

I was born in Cincinnati and raised in San Diego area.

Prescott ain't bad. Flagstaff, Pinetop, a few places in the far North East.

Oregon ain't bad either. I was a boy there, and supposedly had freckles at the time. But when we moved to Phoenix they disappeared - turned out to be rust.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 11:03:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: RevRick

quote:

ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

quote:

ORIGINAL: JWE
The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

From which I graduated high school fifty years ago next month. The next day I joined the navy to get the hell out of Arizona.

You sir are an old fart. Takes one to know one.

Buck

P.S. I also joined the Navy right out of high school in 1960.

Hmmm... I waited until I was two years out of high school, but that was back in '69. Does that make me an Old Fart, J.G.?? or a Geezer1C.

It's a case of "If the shoe fits".

Buck

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 11:08:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: vettim89

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ORIGINAL: RevRick

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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

quote:

ORIGINAL: JWE
The rest of the whole stinking State, as well as the rest of the whole stinking Southwest, is an arid, treeless, desert, plain, broken up by nothing but butes, mesas, washes, gullies, dry, powdery, horrid little alkaline flats, woof!!

From which I graduated high school fifty years ago next month. The next day I joined the navy to get the hell out of Arizona.

You sir are an old fart. Takes one to know one.

Buck

P.S. I also joined the Navy right out of high school in 1960.

Hmmm... I waited until I was two years out of high school, but that was back in '69. Does that make me an Old Fart, J.G.?? or a Geezer1C.

I like coming here; it makes me feel young. I was born in 1963!! I had a older friend that had retired from three jobs after putting in 20,20 and 10 at each (he was old enough he only needed 10 to vest himself at the last one). Ergo, you dinosaurs are old enough to be both Old Fart (R) and Geezer (R)

The thing that really pisses me off is that you will have 20 more years or so of getting to play WITPAE (or maybe even a WITP II) while Ima pushing up the old daisies.

or most likely

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/19/2011 11:15:47 PM

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Boy, I sure stepped in it, didn't I.

Ok, the SW isn't that bad. I got one of my dogs from Las Cruces, NM. And there's some nice golf courses around Phoenix, if they can pay $1000 a day for water, and I seem to remember going past an ostrich ranch somewhere along the 10, and I hear there's an honest to gosh ski area up around Flagstaff (defined as at least 100 feet on at least a 10 degree slope). Never knew the SW had so many interesting things to recommend it. Like the song says:

Standing on the corner in Winslow Arizona
I'm such a fine sight to see
There's a girl, my Lord
In a flat-bed Ford
Slowing down to take a look at me

Now there just ain't that many places on God's little green earth where girls drive around in flat-bed Fords. So maybe I should give the denizens of that dessicated, alkaline, windswept, home of Apaches, tumbleweeds, and rattlesnakes, a break?

ps: 4 April, 1949

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/20/2011 4:59:24 AM

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Boy, I sure stepped in it, didn't I.

Ok, the SW isn't that bad. I got one of my dogs from Las Cruces, NM. And there's some nice golf courses around Phoenix, if they can pay $1000 a day for water, and I seem to remember going past an ostrich ranch somewhere along the 10, and I hear there's an honest to gosh ski area up around Flagstaff (defined as at least 100 feet on at least a 10 degree slope). Never knew the SW had so many interesting things to recommend it. Like the song says:

Standing on the corner in Winslow Arizona
I'm such a fine sight to see
There's a girl, my Lord
In a flat-bed Ford
Slowing down to take a look at me

Now there just ain't that many places on God's little green earth where girls drive around in flat-bed Fords. So maybe I should give the denizens of that dessicated, alkaline, windswept, home of Apaches, tumbleweeds, and rattlesnakes, a break?

ps: 4 April, 1949

Happy Belated B-Day, JWE

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/20/2011 11:35:20 AM

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ps. welcome to Homicide, Spidey.

Actually, I think it's more like welcome to the State of Alabama Repeat Offender Correctional Facility and Lunatic Asylum.

Ok, fixed the infantry and 38 DivArty (about 25 entrys). Big problem is now that the recombine/device upgrade flags have been fixed, a lot of other stuff is going into the dumper. A big one for Japan is the AT guns. You got 37mm T94s, that upgrade to 47mm T01s, and 37mm T01s that don't. Now, Divisional TO&Es have just one type of AT gun in the Device list. But then you gots a gazillion subordinate units that have a mix of all 3, and depending on which one is in the DivDevice list, you are going to have a rats nest when you recombine.

Only two ways to fix this: manually vet and edit over 287 individual units to make sure that
1) every top level unit with 37mm T94s has all subordinate units with either 37mm T94s or 47mm T01s, or every top level unit with 37mm T01s has all subordinate units with nothing but 37mm T01s; or
2) tweak the upgrade paths in the Device file so the 37mm T94s upgrade to 37mm T01s which, in turn, upgrade to 47mm T01s.

As to option 1), can you say 'no frikkin way!'
As to option 2), who gives a rat's anyway. None of them were worth much, so it won't effect the game. Why the heck not?

Think that will clear up Japan, in Babes terms; stock is gonna bite the big wazoo. Says nothing about all the whillion gazillion Allied disconnects, however. These are fixable, but require large infusions of Scotch; and not virtual Scotch, but real live, look at the sun through the golden liquid, and taste the smokey essence on the back of the tongue kinda Scotch.

I don't drink Scotch...much...but I'm doing it the manual way in any event...

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/20/2011 5:17:05 PM

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Now there just ain't that many places on God's little green earth where girls drive around in flat-bed Fords.

I know a lot of places around here where girls drive diesel dually pickups. :)

I am a little late to the DaBabes party and have to say that it looks to be an incredible amount of high quality work. My PBEM opponents and I are thinking about using it for our rematch game when our current game is over. Amazing stuff.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/21/2011 1:10:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: JWE

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ORIGINAL: JWE
ps. welcome to Homicide, Spidey.

Actually, I think it's more like welcome to the State of Alabama Repeat Offender Correctional Facility and Lunatic Asylum.

Ok, fixed the infantry and 38 DivArty (about 25 entrys). Big problem is now that the recombine/device upgrade flags have been fixed, a lot of other stuff is going into the dumper. A big one for Japan is the AT guns. You got 37mm T94s, that upgrade to 47mm T01s, and 37mm T01s that don't. Now, Divisional TO&Es have just one type of AT gun in the Device list. But then you gots a gazillion subordinate units that have a mix of all 3, and depending on which one is in the DivDevice list, you are going to have a rats nest when you recombine.

Only two ways to fix this: manually vet and edit over 287 individual units to make sure that
1) every top level unit with 37mm T94s has all subordinate units with either 37mm T94s or 47mm T01s, or every top level unit with 37mm T01s has all subordinate units with nothing but 37mm T01s; or
2) tweak the upgrade paths in the Device file so the 37mm T94s upgrade to 37mm T01s which, in turn, upgrade to 47mm T01s.

As to option 1), can you say 'no frikkin way!'
As to option 2), who gives a rat's anyway. None of them were worth much, so it won't effect the game. Why the heck not?

Think that will clear up Japan, in Babes terms; stock is gonna bite the big wazoo. Says nothing about all the whillion gazillion Allied disconnects, however. These are fixable, but require large infusions of Scotch; and not virtual Scotch, but real live, look at the sun through the golden liquid, and taste the smokey essence on the back of the tongue kinda Scotch.

I don't drink Scotch...much...but I'm doing it the manual way in any event...

So I've gone through and made a hand written list of all of the parents and next to them the sub-units.

Then under the parents I've written down the device numbers.

I then cross check the parent to the TO&E - PROBLEM - some parent divisions don't match TO&E namely in devices 775/776 in addition to the aforementioned Sqd issue.

I then place a check under each sub-unit on the line for the device...if there is a mismatch I correct the sub unit.

In some instances I've found the parent assigned device 721 - 7.7 AAMG but the subs assigned device 722 - 13.2 AAMG.

This is going to take a while...

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/21/2011 3:15:48 AM

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Remember that you also have to account for the TOE devices. These are in the sub-units but are not exposed in the editor. One has to extract using WITPAELOAD and work with excel or a database.

Correct the TOE devices of the sub unit to match the device in that slot. Best to take a look at the numbers too. They frequently are zero or some wierd number...

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/21/2011 3:47:35 AM

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Remember that you also have to account for the TOE devices. These are in the sub-units but are not exposed in the editor. One has to extract using WITPAELOAD and work with excel or a database.

Correct the TOE devices of the sub unit to match the device in that slot. Best to take a look at the numbers too. They frequently are zero or some wierd number...

In talking to Michael ---its not necessary for slot:slot conformity...although that would be ideal.

I'm primarily concerned whether the sub-unit consists of the same devices as found in the parent and the parent's TO&E...not necessarily whether the slot assignments match.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/21/2011 1:05:21 PM

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So I've gone through and made a hand written list of all of the parents and next to them the sub-units.

Then under the parents I've written down the device numbers.

I then cross check the parent to the TO&E - PROBLEM - some parent divisions don't match TO&E namely in devices 775/776 in addition to the aforementioned Sqd issue.

I then place a check under each sub-unit on the line for the device...if there is a mismatch I correct the sub unit.

In some instances I've found the parent assigned device 721 - 7.7 AAMG but the subs assigned device 722 - 13.2 AAMG.

This is going to take a while...

I saw the 775/776 thing too. But didn't mess with it since 775 upgrades to 776. Think one of michaelm's tweaks has it set up so that technical device mismatches are ok so long as one of the mismatched devices upgrades to the other. Then when they recombine, they bump-up and then add together (at least that's the plan).

721 and 722 are gonna be sticky, since they each only upgrade to themselves. They are unrelated devices, so they will both appear in the newly recombined parent.

If you think that's gonna take a while, just wait till you get to the Allies ...

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/21/2011 1:12:52 PM

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So I've gone through and made a hand written list of all of the parents and next to them the sub-units.

Then under the parents I've written down the device numbers.

I then cross check the parent to the TO&E - PROBLEM - some parent divisions don't match TO&E namely in devices 775/776 in addition to the aforementioned Sqd issue.

I then place a check under each sub-unit on the line for the device...if there is a mismatch I correct the sub unit.

In some instances I've found the parent assigned device 721 - 7.7 AAMG but the subs assigned device 722 - 13.2 AAMG.

This is going to take a while...

I saw the 775/776 thing too. But didn't mess with it since 775 upgrades to 776. Think one of michaelm's tweaks has it set up so that technical device mismatches are ok so long as one of the mismatched devices upgrades to the other. Then when they recombine, they bump-up and then add together (at least that's the plan).

721 and 722 are gonna be sticky, since they each only upgrade to themselves. They are unrelated devices, so they will both appear in the newly recombined parent.

If you think that's gonna take a while, just wait till you get to the Allies ...

I'ze gots a system...

...another issue I've run across - TO&E says w,x,y - Parent and sub-units also have w,x,y but also add z....except z doesn't appear in TO&E.

Talked to MM and work around is to add Z to TO&E but give it 0 devices. So when parent and subs recombine they retain the number z's and do not lose them...except future losses will not be replaced as TO&E calls for 0.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/21/2011 2:35:14 PM

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I'ze gots a system...

Okey doke, I'll meet you in Vegas ..

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...another issue I've run across - TO&E says w,x,y - Parent and sub-units also have w,x,y but also add z....except z doesn't appear in TO&E.

Talked to MM and work around is to add Z to TO&E but give it 0 devices. So when parent and subs recombine they retain the number z's and do not lose them...except future losses will not be replaced as TO&E calls for 0.

That was how it worked in the beginning. The OOB guys did a lot to make opening day units as accurate as possible and that meant that many divisions might have a short FldArty Regt and an indep MedArty Btty (18 75mm and 9 15cm) on opening day and finish reorganizing 4 months later with a complete FldArty Regt (24 75mm and 12 10cm, or some other such thing). The idea was let the oddball excess 15cm devices die off by attrition, since they weren't specifically TO&E devices. There was a ton of ACs and Tankettes like that and a ton of units that had a few tankettes, but lost them the next month, or whenever they redeployed.

There's a lot of units where you want to lose the extra devices when they recombine. Some of these can be identified by one of the subs (usually a dinky thing) not ariving in-game till some later date, such that one cannot recombine until that later date; usually at that time when the parent conglomerate had undergone a reorganization (or something) and the "extra" devices in the subs should indeed disappear. Woof !!!

An alternative, that Andy, Kereguelen and Blackhorse used a lot, is not to give a parent a TO&E ID number, but put a specific TO&E underneath the unit's incoming device list (show TOE check box).
[ed] btw, that's a good method for fortresses and such where the 'underneath' TOE for captured CD naval rifles is 0, so that they don't get replaced from 'production', but still allows for installation of additional stuff over time.

Gonna have to do some looking into this, now that the upgrade/recombine thing has been worked on and fixed up. Might be a few more snakes in the grass that got uncovered.

Groin. J

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/21/2011 11:45:01 PM

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Here is a view of "Arid Zona" from less than two weeks ago, Saturday April 9th. Snowed about 7" the night before, disappeared during the day, then snowed about 2" in 40 minutes and the temp went down to 22F and kept the snow good until noon the next day.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/22/2011 3:11:12 PM

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Here is a view of "Arid Zona" from less than two weeks ago, Saturday April 9th. Snowed about 7" the night before, disappeared during the day, then snowed about 2" in 40 minutes and the temp went down to 22F and kept the snow good until noon the next day.

Wow. Actually, I was just kidding about the arid wasteland. I really do like the desert and try to get out to Ocatillo every spring because it's so gorgeous. Thanks for the pictures. Is that your deck?

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/22/2011 3:45:16 PM

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Yeah, Spidey. It looks like maybe device 721 - 7.7 AAMG ought to upgrade to device 722 - 13.2 AAMG. That should nip that problem in the bud. All the early Allied .30 cal AAMGs upgrade, so why not do the same for Japan? Besides, the 13.2 was pretty pervasive and the 7.7 doesn't do all that much.

That should pretty much take care of it, yeah?

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/22/2011 9:27:55 PM

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Yeah, that's the deck. Nice view of a valley and mountains on the other side across it.

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RE: DaBigBabes Beta errata - 4/22/2011 10:21:12 PM

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Yeah, that's the deck. Nice view of a valley and mountains on the other side across it.

What part of the SoWest are you from?

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