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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 5:06:52 AM   
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The Luftwaffe took high losses across all fronts last turn. The RAF had set some surprise air traps in Norway and in Greece. We also took some bomber losses to flak in Sweden.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 5:07:20 AM   
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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 5:14:56 AM   
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The 4th Fallshirmjaeger did another airborne drop around Sundsvall Sweden the northern most Swedish city and captured it with medium losses.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 5:18:00 AM   
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the situation after attack.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 10:50:46 AM   
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turn 50 !

Rufus is playing a masterful defense with the limited troops he has available and their lower war footing. I have to really plan out my attack moves or I suffer big losses.

this is the starting positions for Greece.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 10:53:23 AM   
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here I decided to attack the forces guarding the flanks of Athens and move my forces into those positions so that I can get a better attack bonus on Athens and soften it up with arty next turn.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 10:56:11 AM   
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On the Turkish front I am pushing my forces across the Istanbul straights and moving into mainland Turkey




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 11:00:38 AM   
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In Sweden I have Stockholm covered on three sides and had to decide whether or not to attack this turn or wait until next turn and soften it up with an arty attack. The commander of the 11th army requested that we wait but OKH ordered an assault.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 11:01:46 AM   
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this was a bad call and we took heavy losses with no gains at all.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 11:05:09 AM   
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again the flak in Stockholm shot down another plane that was attacking two hexs away. Thats 4 or 5 planes lost over Stockholm so far.

a look at the totals for the turn.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 12:57:03 PM   
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just wondering is their a possibility for Spain or Portugal to activate in this game

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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/1/2010 6:21:24 PM   
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Spain yes  but Portugal is one of the rare neutrals.

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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 9:18:33 AM   
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its been 4 or 5 turns since I last posted.
So here is a situation report.

I can report that my days of fast easy victories against the west have ended. The west now has Infantry-II and Guns-II just like me and the battles are much more costly for me now. I am up against a very good player who is using his limited resources to the best of their ability.
My victory in Greece was relatively fast but I took heavy losses to accomplish it. Fortunately my method of logistic control works extremely well in this scenario and I am able to replace my losses within one or two turns tops and I can do it while my armies are on the move.
Norway is a separate continent so to get German troops and equipment there I have to either place the Armies HQ in a port and set a production center to send its production straight to it or I have to make the units and either ship them via air or naval transport. It isn't always easy to get a HQ in a port as they are far apart and I need to keep the HQ's close to my army for the bonus.
Turkey is the same way due to the two straights that separate it from the mainland and its out of reach of any German city for 100% supply the closest give me a 25% supply loss. So I have the same situation keeping my 7th army in reinforcements. But Romania and Bulgaria are close enough to send production straight to a HQ and I just last turn finally got their war footing up to 99% so they now fight as well as my German armies do.

Italy still hasn't woken up but i am using this time to raise its war footing as much as I can so when it does wake up it wont be totally helpless. I also have a force stationed on its border ready to move and support the Italians when they come online. This is more forces that are tied up and kept from helping with Russia.

The bright side is that the unexpected Norway,Swedish and Turkish fronts have forced me into producing more aircraft than I would have normally,so my air-force will be stronger on all fronts.
The down side is my Invasion of Russia is going to be about 2/3rd's as strong as I wanted it to be. I will start without anything for a reserve army and have to hope I can clean up Norway and Turkey in time to move those armies back to the eastern front to be my reserves when I need them.

Its winter now but I am prepared for it and had built up a reserve of supply that is working fine to keep me in 100% supply till spring. So I am able to continue my campaign in Norway, Sweden is occupied and that army is moving to help in Norway.

The occupied territories are producing a large part of my needed supply so I am still able to produce enough units with my German production and every city I take now helps me to produce more so I am still in fair shape for production. I am stretched right up to the edge of Germany's ability but I am still capable of aggressive actions and producing enough extra PP to slowly raise Italy's war-footing, but not enough PP to research any more tech at this time. I had wanted armor-II before my invasion of Russia but will have to hope i can capture enough Russian cities fast enough to switch some German supply production to PP before my lack of tech-II armor starts to hurt me.

I need to conquer Norway and as much as I can of Turkey before spring. Both fronts present the same challenges of keeping my armies in reinforcements and supply along with large distances to move over and capture. Fortunately the west has the same problem in Norway and I am interdicting a huge amount of supply and equipment meant for the western forces there.

as you can see my wolfpacks are finally earning their pay.
But I have already lost 4 subs and it will take me 4 months to replace them but I don't have the production to start until spring.

That city has been captured and I sank that Cruiser with no losses for the Luftwaffe.





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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 9:25:35 AM   
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I have three cities left in Norway to take but the distances are vast and I have to move fast.
here are three screen shots to attempt to show the distances involved.
Bergen is city #1




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 9:26:37 AM   
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#2
The armored car unit at the bottom is the same one in the upper right of the above screen shot.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 9:28:48 AM   
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and #3
the highlighted hexes at the bottom are the ones just above the purple armored car in the above screen shot.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 9:52:32 AM   
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Turkish Front

The battle for Smyrna.

As you can see Smyrna is well defended and I have the 7th army across the river.
This is a good example of how difficult it is for me to advance now.
I sent 5 air strikes and 4 land attacks against the enemy my last attack all I had left was 1 armored car company and Smyrna had just a small element left of staff defending. I barely won. in the screen shot you can see he has reinforcements south of Smyrna that could have easily retaken the city but thankfully I had a couple Fallshirmjaeger regiments just close enough to land in the city to hold it.

This was a super close battle pitting the entire 7th against a few small units and I just barely won. I lost more than he did but I did have to cross a river to attack.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:03:48 AM   
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I still have several cities in turkey to conquer but I am not sure the effort is worth it. But I don't think I can afford to leave a land route open on my southern flank when I am attacking Russia. Especially when I don't have Italy available to keep Britain occupied in North Africa.
Also remember that like a dummy I didn't declare Vichy so I also have all the French colonies to deal with.

a look at whats left of Turkey




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:04:35 AM   
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and the biggest city left is in central turkey Ankara is the name.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:06:53 AM   
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and in the southeast are several left and this is a natural choke point which could be easily defended if I could make it that far. Antioch would be the key here and is right on the Turkish border.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:08:20 AM   
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and finally a small isolated town on the northern coast that I am not sure is worth the effort to try and take.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:17:15 AM   
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so that's the situation as it stands right now.

I find this to be extremely fun and challenging and I have to constantly re-think my strategy. My turns are taking me as much as 3-4 hours to complete because i have to check and double check things since I have almost no room for an error like forgetting to set a production center or moving much needed reinforcements to a theater of operations.

An example is my 7th army in Turkey.
I lost 69 infantry in my assault on Smyrna I had 57 infantry in reserve but it will take me three turns minimum to replace my reserves. I have to produce them in Germany send them to Romania and put them in a unit that can be airlifted and wait two turns while their readiness increases so they can be transported. Then I can finally transport them to Smyrna and into the 7th. OH and I cant get my airborne regiments out of Smyrna until I get the city repaired. To keep my army rolling I have to plan ahead and have reinforcements available.
So I have no room for any kind of silly mistake.

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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:33:31 AM   
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and finally I wanted to post some information about a battle that happened when i was liberating Greece from the harsh western oppressors.

The Royal Navy had moved into the area in force and was shelling my forces at will causing me heavy casualties.

But since our last encounter with the RN, OKH had the Luftwaffe producing planes designed to attack naval units and had them moved into the area. Goering assured Hitler that his anti-ship squadrons could deal with the RN without any help from the Italian Navy and it was time for him to put up or shut up. I personally wondered if this huge investment in aircraft could do the job.
So I selected the most powerful Royal Navy fleet and suggested Goering attack it. ( I have never liked his fat butt so I enjoy putting him on the spot when I can)

he ordered the most massive air-strike in the history of the Luftwaffe and even accidentally sent two squadrons of transports into the fray.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:38:39 AM   
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I must admit that the results where impressive.




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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:39:28 AM   
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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 10:48:02 AM   
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The attack was a success !

we dealt the Royal Navy a heavy blow and while we took rather heavy losses we drove the RN out of theater and where able to liberate Greece.

So this attack proved that the proper anti-ship squadrons are an effective weapon against naval fleets. We didn't cripple the RN but we did enough damage that they didn't want to risk any more losses.
all in all I was pleased with the results , I would have been rather unhappy if we had crippled that fleet as I think fleets have to be able to protect themselves. as it is I sent a huge amount of planes to attack, i lost a lot and I did enough damage to merit the production of the planes. In the end from this battle I know I can hurt the RN at a heavy cost so I will choose my attacks wisely and not just attack when ever I see a chance.

So for now I think the balance is about right.
But consider I am at tech-III planes and his navy is still at tech-I.
This still bears thinking about.

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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 1:25:03 PM   
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hey thanks for the great aar update i have been waiting for some time now, one terrible thing i think the carriers weren't the first targets of the air-force wish that was changed , anyway nice attack, Fwo-190's have been known to have bagged a few destroyers themselves

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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 1:31:11 PM   
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So for now I think the balance is about right.
But consider I am at tech-III planes and his navy is still at tech-I.
This still bears thinking about.


This ships were mainly tech-level I ships. But as you can see in screenshot given by 62ndTrooper, there were two destroyers II. I have already upgraded to naval level II.

@ krupp_88mm: The carrier sent naval fighters for protection. So I think it is ok that the carrier was not sunk. Defenders should protect the most valuable unit first.

Here is a screenshot of enemy sub activity in the North Sea from allied view. Although I search the area, no sub was spotted.






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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 1:59:46 PM   
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haha man you where not kidding when you said you where looking for my subs.

I learned what I am doing here for anti-supply from what Bombur was doing to me in the other game. It really had me puzzled for several turns.


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RE: European Theatres of Operations Game 2 - 11/7/2010 2:32:03 PM   
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hey thanks for the great aar update i have been waiting for some time now, one terrible thing i think the carriers weren't the first targets of the air-force wish that was changed , anyway nice attack, Fwo-190's have been known to have bagged a few destroyers themselves


I also noticed that the planes didnt attack the three cargo ships that where with the fleet. So its hard to understand how they pick there targets ,it kind of looks like they go for whats shooting at them first.

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