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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 1:35:24 PM   
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[Yorkshire]
Pfft, you call that snow. In my day we were glad of the snow. It were better than walking the 54 miles to the coal mine outside Harrogate in bare feet across boiling lava to work 18 hours down the mine before leaving the mine and walking another 16 miles to school. Of course in them days we were grateful for the chance to walk across lava and snow in our bare feet, we were lucky to even have feet. Course, anything less than 18 feet of snow was just a light dusting, we didn't call it snow until it were above the tops of t' trees.

Not only that, but we still had time to be respectful to us elders. And no-one ever had to lock their doors on account of thieves not being invented yet. And don't get me started on this so-called modern music. Or modern food.

[/Yorkshire]


Pifft, and you think you had it hard in the old days. My expensive school shoes were so heavy because their souls were made of real leather, that I used to get ligament damage just walking from my chauffeur-driven Rolls-Royce into the school building. Can you imagine the utter monotony of having to sit in a real-leather overstuffed chair while I took my lessons. But worst of all were the five-course silverware launches served at my school, as the afternoon was shear hell with my overfull stomach. So I would thank you Sir not to compare you happy and comfortable upbring, with my poor and bitter experience of school life.




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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 1:35:26 PM   
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Oh damn, snow is beginning to fall right now


[Yorkshire]
Pfft, you call that snow. In my day we were glad of the snow. It were better than walking the 54 miles to the coal mine outside Harrogate in bare feet across boiling lava to work 18 hours down the mine before leaving the mine and walking another 16 miles to school. Of course in them days we were grateful for the chance to walk across lava and snow in our bare feet, we were lucky to even have feet. Course, anything less than 18 feet of snow was just a light dusting, we didn't call it snow until it were above the tops of t' trees.

Not only that, but we still had time to be respectful to us elders. And no-one ever had to lock their doors on account of thieves not being invented yet. And don't get me started on this so-called modern music. Or modern food.

[/Yorkshire]


Falling snow? BAH! We have snow falling UP here!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 1:50:29 PM   
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When I was 12 I was at a jumble sale and found a book called Escort by D A Rayner. It was an original from 1955 but it somehow wandered off. Now I have a copy from The Naval Institute and I still enjoy digging it out and reading it. If you haven't read it I can heartily recommend it.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 1:57:27 PM   
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One of the many things I like about this thread; if there are 2 ways to answer a question it will always be answered the wrong way.

What's the other way?


To start answering and go off on a massive tangent before sauntering back to the original question briefly before totally losing interest and achieving a UNP or Faber.

That is very spot on

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 2:09:06 PM   
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When I was 12 I was at a jumble sale and found a book called Escort by D A Rayner. It was an original from 1955 but it somehow wandered off. Now I have a copy from The Naval Institute and I still enjoy digging it out and reading it. If you haven't read it I can heartily recommend it.


I've never read that one. I managed to scrounge a copy of U-Boat Killer and Walker, RN.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 2:14:48 PM   
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Anybody want to buy an aircraft carrier? Invinciables for sale. http://blog.american.com/?p=23120


OK, a project for The Thread. I think we need to take up a collection and buy it ! A little paint, some engines, and off we go !

I've a pond in my backyard!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 2:16:52 PM   
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Oh damn, snow is beginning to fall right now


[Yorkshire]
Pfft, you call that snow. In my day we were glad of the snow. It were better than walking the 54 miles to the coal mine outside Harrogate in bare feet across boiling lava to work 18 hours down the mine before leaving the mine and walking another 16 miles to school. Of course in them days we were grateful for the chance to walk across lava and snow in our bare feet, we were lucky to even have feet. Course, anything less than 18 feet of snow was just a light dusting, we didn't call it snow until it were above the tops of t' trees.

Not only that, but we still had time to be respectful to us elders. And no-one ever had to lock their doors on account of thieves not being invented yet. And don't get me started on this so-called modern music. Or modern food.

[/Yorkshire]

And if you told that to kids today they wouldn'ta believe ya!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 2:17:45 PM   
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Pond ... pfft. Maybe you should buy this one instead then http://www.ipmsusa2.org/reviews/Kits/Ships/dragon_700_invincible/dragon_700_invincible.htm

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 2:19:19 PM   
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When I was 12 I was at a jumble sale and found a book called Escort by D A Rayner. It was an original from 1955 but it somehow wandered off. Now I have a copy from The Naval Institute and I still enjoy digging it out and reading it. If you haven't read it I can heartily recommend it.


I've never read that one. I managed to scrounge a copy of U-Boat Killer and Walker, RN.

Any relation to Walker, Texas Ranger?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 2:20:43 PM   
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Pond ... pfft. Maybe you should buy this one instead then http://www.ipmsusa2.org/reviews/Kits/Ships/dragon_700_invincible/dragon_700_invincible.htm

Hey, until I know that the big one is going for more than $31.70, I'm not shelling that out for the small one. Pfft...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 3:50:46 PM   
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Work from home day!


would like to. 10 to 20 inch of snow expected in a few hours before i get back home.....


Wow, that's a real snow storm, no matter where you live! Be safe, Eric.

Snow? What snow?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 3:52:15 PM   
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Work from home day!


would like to. 10 to 20 inch of snow expected in a few hours before i get back home.....

Hmmm ... that doesn't sound so good. I'm going for a recce to the Ardennes area (IVO Sedan) on friday morning and staying until sunday. Was hoping for a little better weather :-/


You would have hard time to get your Tigers out of the wood, Per...
Oh wait, wrong timeline

Definitely no Tigers as we will look deeper into the 1940 battles.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:05:22 PM   
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Work from home day!


would like to. 10 to 20 inch of snow expected in a few hours before i get back home.....

Wow, that's a bunch. Stay warm and drive S...L...O...W...L...Y

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:07:44 PM   
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Work from home day!


would like to. 10 to 20 inch of snow expected in a few hours before i get back home.....

Hmmm ... that doesn't sound so good. I'm going for a recce to the Ardennes area (IVO Sedan) on friday morning and staying until sunday. Was hoping for a little better weather :-/

Well, it should be perfect for your students, Per. I mean, lousy snowing weather in the Ardennes in November or December. No one would launch a major offensive in that weather in that place.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:09:38 PM   
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One of the many things I like about this thread; if there are 2 ways to answer a question it will always be answered the wrong way.

What's the other way?


To start answering and go off on a massive tangent before sauntering back to the original question briefly before totally losing interest and achieving a UNP or Faber.


Saunter? Hah, you're lucky if they bimble back, let alone saunter.

What about moseying back?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:15:30 PM   
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When I was 12 I was at a jumble sale and found a book called Escort by D A Rayner. It was an original from 1955 but it somehow wandered off. Now I have a copy from The Naval Institute and I still enjoy digging it out and reading it. If you haven't read it I can heartily recommend it.


I've never read that one. I managed to scrounge a copy of U-Boat Killer and Walker, RN.


He also wrote The Enemy Below which originally had a British ship. I think the U Boat was still German.

The 1966 Star Trek episode "Balance of Terror" is closely based on this film, with the USS Enterprise cast as the destroyer and the Romulan vessel as the U-boat.
The Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea episode "Killers of the Deep" was not only based on this movie, it also re-used substantial amounts of footage from it.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:36:35 PM   
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Work from home day!


would like to. 10 to 20 inch of snow expected in a few hours before i get back home.....

Hmmm ... that doesn't sound so good. I'm going for a recce to the Ardennes area (IVO Sedan) on friday morning and staying until sunday. Was hoping for a little better weather :-/

Well, it should be perfect for your students, Per. I mean, lousy snowing weather in the Ardennes in November or December. No one would launch a major offensive in that weather in that place.

True ... But then, we will go there with our students coming May ...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:36:44 PM   
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I really need to do something......

Headline this morning on MSNBC

Judges: Its not illegal to use someone else's SSN.

My first thought was, "What do you mean it's not illegal to use someone else's nuclear attack submarine?"

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:39:53 PM   
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My commute home today took 2 hours, rather than the usual 45 minutes. This winter has officially lost its novelty value.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:41:07 PM   
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Work from home day!


would like to. 10 to 20 inch of snow expected in a few hours before i get back home.....

Hmmm ... that doesn't sound so good. I'm going for a recce to the Ardennes area (IVO Sedan) on friday morning and staying until sunday. Was hoping for a little better weather :-/

Well, it should be perfect for your students, Per. I mean, lousy snowing weather in the Ardennes in November or December. No one would launch a major offensive in that weather in that place.

True ... But then, we will go there with our students coming May ...

This is an interesting point. From an military educational perspective, which Ardennes battle do you feel is most critical to show your students on site and why?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:44:35 PM   
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My commute home today took 2 hours, rather than the usual 45 minutes. This winter has officially lost its novelty value.

Well, the extra hour and 15 minutes could be used to socialize with your fellow countrymen, get into the holiday spirit, enjoy the wintry landscape and bone up on your Christmas show tunes. All the while smiling at the other passengers and inquiring about the well being of their lovely families and children.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:46:50 PM   
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Thanks, Chickenboy, you owe me a new Sarcasmometer after that.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 4:59:08 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 5:18:43 PM   
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Anybody want to buy an aircraft carrier? Invinciables for sale. http://blog.american.com/?p=23120


OK, a project for The Thread. I think we need to take up a collection and buy it ! A little paint, some engines, and off we go !

I've a pond in my backyard!


I imagine it'll be a skating rink shortly.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 5:19:48 PM   
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Work from home day!


would like to. 10 to 20 inch of snow expected in a few hours before i get back home.....

Hmmm ... that doesn't sound so good. I'm going for a recce to the Ardennes area (IVO Sedan) on friday morning and staying until sunday. Was hoping for a little better weather :-/

Well, it should be perfect for your students, Per. I mean, lousy snowing weather in the Ardennes in November or December. No one would launch a major offensive in that weather in that place.

True ... But then, we will go there with our students coming May ...

This is an interesting point. From an military educational perspective, which Ardennes battle do you feel is most critical to show your students on site and why?

I'll give you a true staff officer answer; "That depends ... [on what points/things/themes you want to teach or discuss]" ...

It also depends on what meaning you put in the word "battle" - Low level skirmish? A campaign?

In this particular case however, we're will mainly look at the 1940 campaign and the values of "Auftragstaktik (/"Mission type orders")" and wargaming an operational plan to name just a few points among many. The asymmetry between French and German doctrines that paved the way for the outcome is also interesting to discuss. Having access to relevant background material from both sides and trying to understand why the commanders made the decisions they made, and doing it in the actual terrain where they made those, is also invaluable. Then, trying to synthezise those lessons learned into something that has relevance nowadays (or in the future) is also something that we always do.

We've going to have to change the structure of this trip for various reasons, so that's why we are going on a new recce. Given how many battles that has been (historically) fought in that area however, I wouldn't be surprised if we happen to find some new interesting "stop". Some years ago, we had a (from the 1940 campaign) deviating stop at Bastogne, where the theme for discussion was "tenacity" One other stop that hasn't got anything to with 1940 is at Verdun, where we will discuss "consequences". A sobering place to discuss that theme.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 5:20:26 PM   
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Thanks, Chickenboy, you owe me a new Sarcasmometer after that.



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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 5:21:44 PM   
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not necessarily the act of examination, but the use of such big and expensive words...





Bravo! Its things like this that make this place absolutely irreplaceable.



Hey, it worked for me. I'm married to a veterinarian. Apparently, she found this sort of pillow talk at best intriguing, at worst tolerable.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 5:25:46 PM   
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Also, after about 10-15 years of absolute crap, my faith in the ability of post-Soviet nations to make movies about WW2 has finally been restored.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj96Ahlcak0&feature=related

I dont know if it is possible to get it with subtitles, but if you have the chance I highly recommend it. No politicizing or moralizing, just the real, terrible, awful reality of war. The story is all absolutely true, down to every single episode. My father was a tour guide there in his younger days and has told me many things that he himself, and other staff, learned in speaking with the survivors. He met the hero of the story as well.

My hat's off to the film makers at Belarusfilm.


Brother Onime - have you seen 6 part documentary (done for victory day 2010) - "Velikaja Voina"?


No. Gotta check it out.

Edit: any idea where I can find it?


Here it is (it was aired on Russian TV and later availabe on DVDs)...


Great War" ("Великая Война"). 8 Films:

http://www.1tv.ru/documentary/fi=6510


WW2 Documentary - Great War (Великая Война). 8 (split) films on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E8B31A22E025873F


Leo "Apollo11"


Thanks Leo. I'll have to dig a bit. I found some episodes online but havent seen a site that has all of them yet. From the tidbits so far it looks amazing. Better yet, I ran across a forum of anti-Soviet history revisionists (Stalin planned to sacrifice the Red Army to Hitler in hopes of appeasement, the Red Army refused to fight, the NKVD executed anyone who retreated, that sort of thing) and they seem to have hated it, so its probably very good.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 5:28:07 PM   
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Oh damn, snow is beginning to fall right now


[Yorkshire]
Pfft, you call that snow. In my day we were glad of the snow. It were better than walking the 54 miles to the coal mine outside Harrogate in bare feet across boiling lava to work 18 hours down the mine before leaving the mine and walking another 16 miles to school. Of course in them days we were grateful for the chance to walk across lava and snow in our bare feet, we were lucky to even have feet. Course, anything less than 18 feet of snow was just a light dusting, we didn't call it snow until it were above the tops of t' trees.

Not only that, but we still had time to be respectful to us elders. And no-one ever had to lock their doors on account of thieves not being invented yet. And don't get me started on this so-called modern music. Or modern food.

[/Yorkshire]


I suspect it is a quote frome something, but what ?? ;
or is it just you ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Dixie did very well for the "genre".

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 11/30/2010 5:29:08 PM   
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