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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 7:59:55 PM   
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Which, of course - as you point out - is the exact opposite of what the tactics were during the age of sail. No decent commander with the weather gauge (i.e., with his ships upwind of the enemy force) would sail directly into the fire of his enemy.


Erm....that's exactly what Nelson did at Trafalgar.



Yeah but Trafalgar was borked.


Somewhere outside our universe, one of the two 'children' who was playing, quit over the borked Trafalgar result. The other child forgot to turn off the game, and here we are!


Nice one, Matrix.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 8:29:08 PM   
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Starting Wednesday I will be doing some of this
Then some of this
Put some fires out
Get everyone in line
Follow up on the outsiders

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 8:31:10 PM   
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Gas Station in Marysville, WA, USA

(A girl of about 20 pulls up to the pump. After several minutes of her nervously looking around and doing nothing, I approach her.)

Me: “Is there something I can help you with?”

Customer: “I don’t know how to do this.”

Me: “You don’t know how to fuel up your car?”

Customer: “No! There’s so many buttons! Where does this hose thingy go?”

Me: “Well, first you have to pay.”

(Several minutes ensue of walking her through the procedure, in which I learn she has been driving for 4 years.)

Customer: “Thank you so much for your help, I don’t know how anyone can do this!”

Me: *notices license plate* “Oh! You’re from Oregon! People pump gas for you there, don’t they?”

Customer: “Yes! I can’t believe they don’t do it here! Are the people at this gas station poor?”



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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 8:46:14 PM   
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In one respect Trafalgar was borked in that the light winds that day were very shifty, reducing the advantage of hte weather gauge. Overall the wind was from the northwest, while Nelson's fleet was to the west of Villeneuve's forces.  Another aspect that worked in Nelson's favor was that Villeneuve's fleet was already somewhat disorganized from the initial maneuvers.

But... yoe are right. Nelson did what I said no decent commander would do. Perhaps I have kept my mind stuck in the archaic "Fighting Instructions" that ruled the Royal Navy (but not Nelson) of the day.


< Message edited by bradfordkay -- 1/22/2011 8:47:49 PM >


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 8:47:50 PM   
bradfordkay

 

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ORIGINAL: scott1964


Gas Station in Marysville, WA, USA

(A girl of about 20 pulls up to the pump. After several minutes of her nervously looking around and doing nothing, I approach her.)

Me: “Is there something I can help you with?”

Customer: “I don’t know how to do this.”

Me: “You don’t know how to fuel up your car?”

Customer: “No! There’s so many buttons! Where does this hose thingy go?”

Me: “Well, first you have to pay.”

(Several minutes ensue of walking her through the procedure, in which I learn she has been driving for 4 years.)

Customer: “Thank you so much for your help, I don’t know how anyone can do this!”

Me: *notices license plate* “Oh! You’re from Oregon! People pump gas for you there, don’t they?”

Customer: “Yes! I can’t believe they don’t do it here! Are the people at this gas station poor?”








I got in trouble the first time I drove through Oregon because I started to pump my own gas. Self serve is illegal there...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 9:28:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I got in trouble the first time I drove through Oregon because I started to pump my own gas. Self serve is illegal there...


Why? Afraid the locals might find it too difficult? Some sort of nanny-state effort?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 9:49:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dixie


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I got in trouble the first time I drove through Oregon because I started to pump my own gas. Self serve is illegal there...


Why? Afraid the locals might find it too difficult? Some sort of nanny-state effort?

Sort of ... from what i understand most states that have these laws do it to boost employment.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 10:07:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

In one respect Trafalgar was borked in that the light winds that day were very shifty, reducing the advantage of hte weather gauge. Overall the wind was from the northwest, while Nelson's fleet was to the west of Villeneuve's forces.  Another aspect that worked in Nelson's favor was that Villeneuve's fleet was already somewhat disorganized from the initial maneuvers.

But... yoe are right. Nelson did what I said no decent commander would do. Perhaps I have kept my mind stuck in the archaic "Fighting Instructions" that ruled the Royal Navy (but not Nelson) of the day.



The only thing really 'borked' at Trafalgar were the French and Spanish crews. If they had been able to shoot worth a damn, Nelson would have lost both his vanguards before he ever got off a shot.

As T said, Nelson did outlandish things and mostly won due to opponent incompetence or mistakes.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 10:35:39 PM   
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Fortune favours the bold... or the insane...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 10:48:38 PM   
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Nelson was certainly on Fortune's payroll.

Of course, we all know Fortune is Russian since the best way to lose her favor is to invade it.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 10:49:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I got in trouble the first time I drove through Oregon because I started to pump my own gas. Self serve is illegal there...


Why? Afraid the locals might find it too difficult? Some sort of nanny-state effort?

Sort of ... from what i understand most states that have these laws do it to boost employment.



New Jersey has the same law. Which dates to an obscur insident around 1903 when some one filing his own tank managed to blow up his car, the gas station and himself!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 11:00:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mynok

Nelson was certainly on Fortune's payroll.

Of course, we all know Fortune is Russian since the best way to lose her favor is to invade it.



Heh, yeah...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 11:14:20 PM   
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Hi all,

Zssssssssss time...


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 11:39:10 PM   
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Time for a turn - Tithe. 

Happy Saturday evening, Brothers.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/22/2011 11:39:53 PM   
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Time for a turn - Tithe. 

Happy Saturday evening, Brothers.


Yeah, you too, Mike. Now about that turn...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 12:55:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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Time for a turn - Tithe. 

Happy Saturday evening, Brothers.


Yeah, you too, Mike. Now about that turn...


Turn is over to my partner, and we all may have a movie to watch later this evening.

I may be in the minority of players, but I really enjoy the drama of watching the combat replay. I never look at the combat report until I have watched the replay.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 1:58:56 AM   
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Tithe!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:01:01 AM   
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3am tithe.

Back from Saturday night gaming. Got a really nice Italian dinner as well.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:02:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo


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ORIGINAL: Grollub

Off to Saturday night gaming

Laters, friends.


Have fun. Dont raise on an inside straight......umm....I think.....maybe.....ok, raise on an inside straight.....or not. Whatever.

Not a poker evening. We've played Settlers of Catan four times.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:03:22 AM   
Grollub


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo


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That (mostly) still applies. That's why we go to Denmark, to keep the liquor tab from getting to large


Why is their booze cheaper?

Umm...taxes? Dude...

I'm afraid you're correct

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:04:55 AM   
Grollub


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ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mynok


quote:

Which, of course - as you point out - is the exact opposite of what the tactics were during the age of sail. No decent commander with the weather gauge (i.e., with his ships upwind of the enemy force) would sail directly into the fire of his enemy.


Erm....that's exactly what Nelson did at Trafalgar.



Yeah but Trafalgar was borked.

Hear hear! I bet he ignored that he didn't have any Zero bonus as well.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:06:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: scott1964


Gas Station in Marysville, WA, USA

(A girl of about 20 pulls up to the pump. After several minutes of her nervously looking around and doing nothing, I approach her.)

Me: “Is there something I can help you with?”

Customer: “I don’t know how to do this.”

Me: “You don’t know how to fuel up your car?”

Customer: “No! There’s so many buttons! Where does this hose thingy go?”

Me: “Well, first you have to pay.”

(Several minutes ensue of walking her through the procedure, in which I learn she has been driving for 4 years.)

Customer: “Thank you so much for your help, I don’t know how anyone can do this!”

Me: *notices license plate* “Oh! You’re from Oregon! People pump gas for you there, don’t they?”

Customer: “Yes! I can’t believe they don’t do it here! Are the people at this gas station poor?”




wow, how does she make it through day-to-day life ?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:35:55 AM   
Grollub


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Good night friends

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:53:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso


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ORIGINAL: Dixie


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

I got in trouble the first time I drove through Oregon because I started to pump my own gas. Self serve is illegal there...


Why? Afraid the locals might find it too difficult? Some sort of nanny-state effort?

Sort of ... from what i understand most states that have these laws do it to boost employment.



New Jersey has the same law. Which dates to an obscur insident around 1903 when some one filing his own tank managed to blow up his car, the gas station and himself!


Well, I do know somebody who admits to having driven off with the pump nozzle still in the intake for his car's tank. Can you imagine?? Maybe Oregon and New Jersey have the right idea...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 2:54:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: USS America


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: USS America

Time for a turn - Tithe. 

Happy Saturday evening, Brothers.


Yeah, you too, Mike. Now about that turn...


Turn is over to my partner, and we all may have a movie to watch later this evening.

I may be in the minority of players, but I really enjoy the drama of watching the combat replay. I never look at the combat report until I have watched the replay.


I'm sure you enjoyed this latest one with Toga eating a fish then!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 3:10:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Grollub


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mynok


quote:

Which, of course - as you point out - is the exact opposite of what the tactics were during the age of sail. No decent commander with the weather gauge (i.e., with his ships upwind of the enemy force) would sail directly into the fire of his enemy.


Erm....that's exactly what Nelson did at Trafalgar.



Yeah but Trafalgar was borked.

Hear hear! I bet he ignored that he didn't have any Zero bonus as well.

Pfft...everyone knows that the Spanish Armada was scuttled.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 3:12:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: USS America


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: USS America

Time for a turn - Tithe. 

Happy Saturday evening, Brothers.


Yeah, you too, Mike. Now about that turn...


Turn is over to my partner, and we all may have a movie to watch later this evening.

I may be in the minority of players, but I really enjoy the drama of watching the combat replay. I never look at the combat report until I have watched the replay.

No, Mike, I love the combat replay too. I follow all shell splashes / hits from the naval combats, all messages from major air to naval attacks and the ASW reports too. It is great drama WAITING for a torpedo impact to leap up the side of your opponent's carrier. Like, say for example, how "Saratoga" ate a 53cm fish last turn. What a nice surprise!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 3:17:19 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 3:19:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Grollub


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mynok


quote:

Which, of course - as you point out - is the exact opposite of what the tactics were during the age of sail. No decent commander with the weather gauge (i.e., with his ships upwind of the enemy force) would sail directly into the fire of his enemy.


Erm....that's exactly what Nelson did at Trafalgar.



Yeah but Trafalgar was borked.

Hear hear! I bet he ignored that he didn't have any Zero bonus as well.

Pfft...everyone knows that the Spanish Armada was scuttled.



No one expects the Spanish Armada !

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 1/23/2011 3:33:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: USS America


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: USS America

Time for a turn - Tithe. 

Happy Saturday evening, Brothers.


Yeah, you too, Mike. Now about that turn...


Turn is over to my partner, and we all may have a movie to watch later this evening.

I may be in the minority of players, but I really enjoy the drama of watching the combat replay. I never look at the combat report until I have watched the replay.

No, Mike, I love the combat replay too. I follow all shell splashes / hits from the naval combats, all messages from major air to naval attacks and the ASW reports too. It is great drama WAITING for a torpedo impact to leap up the side of your opponent's carrier. Like, say for example, how "Saratoga" ate a 53cm fish last turn. What a nice surprise!


A wise man once said, "don't belive everything you see".

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