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RE: Work in progress - 11/12/2010 8:39:37 PM

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I don't see the SS KG 1001 Nacht
Have you considered including the 12th Army?�

I completely forgot about KG 1001 Nacht.
12th army will be included. I just have to make up my mind about whether it should be locked in place until it moved towards Berlin, or enter as reinforcements.

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RE: Work in progress - 11/12/2010 8:56:02 PM

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Found it. It will be added.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=65504

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RE: Work in progress - 11/17/2010 10:28:51 AM

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Back to working on the map. Will hopefully finish the northern half of Berlin today. The rail network is a nightmare to get right!

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RE: Work in progress - 11/17/2010 1:15:04 PM

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Keep it going!

What about Auto Contouring Off? Makes it a lot easier when you have that much parallel/adjacent raillines.

Det is die Berliner Stra�enbahn, wa?

....Btw, are you sure this railnet isn't the Berlin tram and/or subway?

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RE: Work in progress - 11/17/2010 1:30:55 PM

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Auto-contouring is off for everything except the farm land. I don't even use it for forests. It nearly drove me to drink before i figured out that i could turn it off!

I am 90% certain that it is not the trams I'm building. The base map is a Luftwaffe one, and i don't see why they would put that kind of thing on it. Further, the map does show stations, and there aren't that many of them in Berlin itself, also the net as depicted is fully connected to lines leading out of the city. And lastly, The symbology(wrong word?) of the map classifies all the lines as

quote:

Haupt u. vollspurige Nebenbahn

, or

quote:

Kleinbahn u. schmalspurige Nebenbahn

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RE: Work in progress - 11/17/2010 2:02:10 PM

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Hm, okay tram lines would most probably not have been shown on a Luftwaffe map.

..but "Kleinbahn u. schmalspurige Nebenbahn" however could be a tram.. Nevertheless. I found a map from 1936, this was the closest i could get towards the beginning of the war. The next map on the site is from '47, comparing both maps it looks like the net didn't change during that period..

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RE: Work in progress - 11/17/2010 2:05:16 PM

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The thick black lines are the subway.

Thinner lines are normal surface tram lines.

EDIT: Oh and i forgot, the map is from here: http://www.berliner-verkehr.de/snetze.htm

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RE: Work in progress - 11/17/2010 7:37:16 PM

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Thanks for the link!

I can't find any relation between my map and the tram lines. I'm not entirely sure about the surface trams, but i figure if they do end up in the game, it is no big deal, as they could conceivably be used to move troops about. Either way, as far as i can tell, the axis rail capacity should be fairly minimal by this stage anyway.
The map I'm using is indeed published by the Luftwaffe, and is an actual Fliegerkarte, which, i guess, makes it even more unlikely that subways should show up.

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RE: Work in progress - 11/26/2010 7:13:42 PM

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Taking longer than i thought it would, but slowly Berlin is taking shape. Here is the north-west corner. Maybe i will have the time and patience to do more tomorrow

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RE: Work in progress - 4/10/2011 6:12:04 PM

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It's been a while. Much longer than i thought, but I'm back working on this. Finished Berlin today.

The green space in the corner of the mini-map is all that's left to do from this map sheet. When that's all done we'll see if the battle of Berlin will fit, otherwise I'll have to extend the map a bit. When it's finished it will be 82x83 hexes at this stage.

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RE: Work in progress - 4/10/2011 7:59:51 PM

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Congratulations, good work!

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RE: Work in progress - 4/17/2011 10:24:27 AM

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Nice

Keep up the good work, mate!

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RE: Work in progress - 4/18/2011 2:55:03 AM

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I don't know how much of this helps, but it won't hurt so...

I collected a few documents relating to the Battle of Berlin for a Close Combat 5-mod a few years ago. Tank strengths, unit deployment maps and other tidbits of information. I've made them available here:

http://files.elisson.eu/index.php?dir=doc%2Fbob%2F

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RE: Work in progress - 4/19/2011 7:22:29 AM

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Those are lovely. Thanks muchly!

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RE: Work in progress - 5/7/2011 7:27:37 AM

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12th army will be included. I just have to make up my mind about whether it should be locked in place until it moved towards Berlin, or enter as reinforcements.

my suggestion, enter as reinforcement by event if the Soviets come within a certain distance from Berlin

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RE: Work in progress - 6/27/2011 9:32:45 AM

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Still working (slowly) on this. The first map-sheet is done. I need to add some names for the Berlin area, and it is not big enough to fit Konev's armies on, so I'll need to extend it a bit further south. At the moment I've just overcome the distortion issue when fitting two map-sheets together. I am extending the map north to include the coast line for estethical reasons. Once that's done it will get extended south to include Konev's front, and east as far as the eastern bank of the Elbe. That, incidentally solves the 12th army dilemma. I'll go with having them locked in place with the OOB they had at the time they were committed to the eastern front. They will be released according to Silvanski's idea, when the Soviets get to a certain point. If i'm unlucky, the map will need extending east as well, to fit in all of the Red Army, but i think it will fit.

The OOB needs to be partially redone. I'm not happy with what i did last summer. I've gathered more information, and have very detailed OOB and set-up for the Ninth army. I even have strength reports from the 15th of April! Not sure it will help make a good scenario, but it makes me feel good

I don't as much details for the rest of the Germans, but close enough. The Russians i haven't started yet. Might have to invest in some books to find the missing data there. That, however is for the future!

I've changed my mind about the start date. New plan is to start the scenario on the 16th, when the Berlin operation started in Zhukov's sector. Koniev and Rokossovsky will be on the map, locked in place until their historical start date.

Finally, i'm debating whether or not to use a custom database. I'm quite partial to one of the WWII ones that has Volkssturm squads, etc.

I've uploaded a map image here. It's 15MB. Have a look if you're interested. Any comments are welcome! Here's the link.

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RE: Work in progress - 6/27/2011 8:21:21 PM

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Beautiful map, Fred! Good luck with this, eh?

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RE: Work in progress - 6/27/2011 11:53:26 PM

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Looks great!
I would go for the custom database, extra work but things like Volkssturm squads, etc. can help doing fine adjustments by changing their values & replacement rates.

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RE: Work in progress - 6/28/2011 2:12:54 AM

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Still working (slowly) on this. The first map-sheet is done.

Awesome map *drooling*

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RE: Work in progress - 7/10/2011 12:35:04 PM

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Thanks for the flattering reactions to the map.

Now here's a question i came up with while i was supposedly dealing with piles of work i brought home with me;
My source states that the Berlin garrison included up to 200 battalions of Volksturm. That's all good. I'll figure out a way to group them logically and reduce the ant-count. However, the men in these units displayed a certain lack of fighting will. In fact, most sources have most of them melting away at the first opportunity. If i set them in a different color scheme from the rest of the German troops, is it possible to set a plague percentage that will just affect them?

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RE: Work in progress - 7/10/2011 6:34:54 PM

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If i set them in a different color scheme from the rest of the German troops, is it possible to set a plague percentage that will just affect them?

Good idea, but no, it can't be done. Suggest maybe giving them a very low unit proficiency, and tick them to not reconstitute and not get any replacements.

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RE: Work in progress - 7/10/2011 8:30:28 PM

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Thanks for the flattering reactions to the map.

Now here's a question i came up with while i was supposedly dealing with piles of work i brought home with me;
My source states that the Berlin garrison included up to 200 battalions of Volksturm. That's all good. I'll figure out a way to group them logically and reduce the ant-count. However, the men in these units displayed a certain lack of fighting will. In fact, most sources have most of them melting away at the first opportunity. If i set them in a different color scheme from the rest of the German troops, is it possible to set a plague percentage that will just affect them?

You might want to consider the possibility that they fell below the military horizon, so to speak.

That is to say, they shouldn't be represented as units at all. If a Soviet unit advancing into their location wouldn't be significantly impeded, then they shouldn't be on the map.

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RE: Work in progress - 7/10/2011 9:05:17 PM

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Or simply put some crap in them so they are no match except maybe for the weakest Russian units.

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RE: Work in progress - 7/11/2011 1:23:55 AM

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Or simply put some crap in them so they are no match except maybe for the weakest Russian units.

e.g. 19th century rifled-musket squads, lancers but panzerfausts, too. :) I'd use them as emergency garrison troops who pop up when the russkies are too close; after all; they still control a ZOC and can't be ignored.

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RE: Work in progress - 9/25/2011 6:53:55 PM

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Ok, I'm back working on this. If any of my PBEM opponents are reading this, sorry.

About the Volkssturm, new sources seem to reduce the number to about 40-80 battalions. They also say that the eastern front volkssturm fought about as well as many of the wehrmacht units.

I think i might set a plague on all the German units, starting 2-3 days after the Soviet attack. It seems most units just melted away more or less quickly.

I don't think any of the German units will reconstitute. If they were beaten up enough to evaporate, I don't see how they would be able to re-form in the chaos of refugees and Soviet advances. I would assume most of the survivors would drift off towards home or the Western Allies on the Elbe.

I've got my hands on "The Oder front 1945" by Hamilton, which includes a very detailed OOB, so that's one thing less to do. The map, however, is progressing slowly.

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RE: Work in progress - 10/9/2011 9:05:19 PM

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Working on the OOB again. New sources mean i am much happier with this version.

Hitler Bunker Hitler
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Security Company
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I./Flak.Abt.34 Coy. Strength! Mot.
I./Flak.Abt.411 Coy. Strength! Mot.
Divisionsgruppe Muller Muller
K.G.27.SS Freiw.Gren.Div Langemarck
K.G.28.SS Freiw.Gren.Div Wallonien
Pz.Jagd.Abt.6
SS Pz.A.A.4
Division 610 z.b.v Summer
SS Pz.Gren. Ersatz und Ausbildung G
I./SS Polizei-Rgt.8
II./SS Polizei-Rgt.8
III./SS Polizei-Rgt.8
I./SS Polizei-Rgt.50
II./SS Polizei-Rgt.50
III./SS Polizei-Rgt.50
II./Feld Ausb.Rgt.Oder
Klossek Infanterie Division Klossek
Volkssturm Batallion Hamburg
Volkssturm Batallion Brandenburg
II./G.R.1091 From 547 VGD!
Einst.Btl.Pz.Ausb.Btl.5 From Pz.Ausb.Verb.Ostsee!
I./Feld.Ausb.Rgt.Oder
Panzer-Ausbildungs-Verband Ostseee/Stab 227 ID Prenzlau Arrinves 28 April +Nachrichten Abt. & Kraftfahr.Erst.Abt.4
5.Btl Pz.Gren.Ausb.Reg.Ostsee (A)
73.Btl. Pz.Gren.Ausb.Reg.Ostsee (A)
76.Btl. Pz.Gren.Ausb.Reg.Ostsee (B)
90.Btl. Pz.Gren.Ausb.Reg.Ostsee (B)
Pz.Ausb.Reg.Ostsee (C) 2 Pz. V 2 Jgd.Pz.38(t)
Scharf.Schtz.-Lehrg. Probably Coy strength!
4./Fla.Ausb.Kp Coy Strength!
Pz.Pi.Ausb.Btl.218
XXXXVI.Panzer Korps Gareis +Nachrichten Abt.
Pz.Armee Sturm-Btl.3 (Kolberg)
Feld.Gend.Trupp.466
V./SS-Art. E. und A. Rgt
Fs-Pz.E.und A.Brig.2.H.G.
Feld-Ersatz Btl. Langemark
Feld-Ersatz Btl.Walloon
H.StuG.Brig.210
H.StuG.Brig.184
s.SS Pz.Abt.503 Sent to III (germanische) SS Panzer Korps on 17th, assigned to 9 Armee on the 18th. Should appear in Nordland colours!
Volks-Art.Korps.406
II./Art.Abt.41
II./Art.Abt.37
I./SS Pz.A.R.11
II./SS Pz.A.R.11
?./Abt.935
547.VGD Fronhofer +Nachrichten Abt.
I./G.R.1091
I./G.R.1092
II./G.R.1092
Volkssturm Btl.XXV/82
Feld-Ersatz Btl. 1547 1 Coy
Pi.Btl.1547
II./Fs.Jg. E. und A. Rgt. 3
III./Fs.Jg. E. und A. Rgt.1
I./SS-A.R.23 From Nederland!
II./ SS-A.R.23 From Nederland!
III./ SS-A.R.23 From Nederland!
II./SS.Pz.Gren.Rgt.49 de Ruiter From Nederland!
SS Pz.Jg.Abt.23 From Nederland!
Flak Rgt.138
s.Flak-Abt.1202
s.Flak-Abt.1102
s.Flak-Abt.229
I./Flak.Abt.611 Mot!
1.Marine Infanterie Division +Nachrichten Abt.
I./Mar.Inf.Reg.1
II./Mar.Inf.Reg.1
I./Mar.Inf.Reg.2
II./Mar.Inf.Reg.2
I./ Mar.Inf.Reg.4
II./Mar.Inf.Reg.4
Mar.Fus.Btl.1 4 coy.
Mar.Feld-Ersatz Btl.1 6 coy
Mar.Art.Reg.1 1 light abtl. 4 batteries
Mar.Pi.Btl.1 1 Coy Nafziger says 4
Mar.Pz.Jg.Abt.1 2 Coy ,Nafziger says 5
SS-Jgd.Verb.Solar
SS.JgdVerb.Mitte
SS.Fs.Jg.Brigade 600
I./A.R.18
III./A.R.18
Flak.Rgt.145
Flak.Abt.1209
le.Flak.Abt.83
gem.Flak.Abt.244
s.Flak-Abt.1101
I/Flak.Abt.23 Mot!
5./IV Flak.Abt. Mot!
11.SS Pz.Gren.Div. Nordland Ziegler Sent to III (germanische) SS Panzer Korps on 17th, assigned to 9 Armee on the 18th. Should appear in 9 Armee colours.
II./SS-Frw.Pz.G.R.23 Norge
III./SS-Frw.Pz.G.R.23 Norge
II./SS-Frw.Pz.G.R.24 Danmark
III./SS-Frw.Pz.G.R.24 Danmark
11.SS Pz.Abt. Hermann von Salza
SS-Flak.Abt.11
SS Pz.Pi.Btl.11
III (germanische) SS Panzer Korps Withdrawn 23 April Steiner
Armeegruppe Steiner Arrives 23 April Steiner
SS-Feld.Gend.Trupp.103
SS Korps.Sich.Kp.103
Kpf.Schule III (germ.) SS.Pz.Korps
23.SS Pz.Gren.Div. Nederland Wagner +Nachrichten Abt.
I./SS-Frw.Pz.G.R.48 Gen.Seyffarth
II./SS-Frw.Pz.G.R.48 Gen.Seyffarth
I./SS-Frw.Pz.G.R.49 de Ruiter
27.SS Freiw.Gren.Div. Langemarck Muller
I./SS-Frw.G.R.66
II./SS-Frw.G.R.66
I./SS-Frw.G.R.67
II./SS-Frw.G.R.67
SS Pz.Jg.Abt.27 3 Coy
9.Armee Busse
CI.Armee Korps Berlin
Volks.Art.Korps 406 Full strength:18 x 7,5-cm Feldkanonen 40
18 x 10,5-cm leichte Feldhaubitze 18/40
12 x 10-cm Kanone 18
12 x 12,2-cm schwere feldhaubitze 396 (r)
12 x 15,2-cm Feldhaubitze 433 (r)
StuG.Lehr Brig 111
5.Jager-Division Sixt
I./Jager Rgt.56
II./Jager Rgt.56
III./Jager Rgt.56
I./Jager Rgt.75
II./Jager Rgt.75
III./Jager Rgt.75
I./Artillerie Rgt.5
II./Artillerie Rgt.5
III./Artillerie Rgt.5
I./Artillerie Rgt.41
Radfahr Abt.5
Panzerjager Kompanie.1005 10 panzer iv(L) 1 stug III
Pionier Btl.5
Feldersatz Btl.5
Div.Stb.z.b.V.606 Rosskopf
Btl.Balkhow./Rgt.Sator
Btl.Garny./Rgt.Sator
Btl.Spandau./Rgt.Sator
Btl.Potsdam./Rgt.Rohde
Btl.67./Rgt.Rohde
Pol.Btl.Bremen
309.Berlin Infanterie Division Voigtsberger
Pz.Jg.Kp.1129 10 stug iii
Volkssturm Batallion I./365.G.R?
Volkssturm Batallion II./365.G.R?
Volkssturm Batallion I./652.G.R?
Volkssturm Batallion II./652G.R?
I./Rgt.1234(Potsdam)
II./Rgt.1234(Potsdam)
I./309.Art.Rgt
4.Luftwaffe Trg.Rgt Confirmation & TO&E!
5.Luftwaffe Trg.Rgt Confirmation & TO&E!
25.Panzergrenadier Division Burmeister Confirm units. Not listed in Oder Front 1945!
I./35.Pz.Gr.R
II./35.Pz.Gr.R
III./35.Pz.Gr.R
I./119.Pz.Gr.R
II./119.Pz.Gr.R
III./119.Pz.Gr.R
Pz.Abt.5 1 pz iv, 30 pz v, 7panzer iv (L), 2 pz iv (flak)
Pz.Jg.Abt.25 12 pz iv (L), 31 stug iii, 1 jgdpz iv
Kampfgruppe 1001 Nacht KG "1001 nights"

Regt HQ company
Escort company (SS parachute company from SSFJ Abt 500/600)
HQ Co. inc armd recovery vehicles inc. one turretless T34 armed with Drilling triple MG mount

SS Panzerjager Abt.560 (possible codename; "Suleika")
HQ Co. - Hetzer
Co.1 - Hetzer
Co.2 - Hetzer
Co.3 - Hetzer
Co.4 - Stug III
(total strength 44x JadgPanzer 38t and 8x Stug III)

Escort Abt.Speer
HQ Co.
Co.1 - almost exclusivly mounted on Kettenkrad
Co.2 - Armoured Car company (listing mentions half tracks with short 75mm guns and half-tracks with quad flak)
This unit was the Escort Abt of Armaments Minister Albert Speer - Men drawn from RAD

and a supply company
LVI.Panzer Korps Weidling
402VAK Full strength:18 x 7,5-cm Feldkanone
18 x 10,5-cm leichte Feldhaubitze
12 x schwere 10-cm Kanonen 18
12 x 12,2-cm schwere Feldhaubitze 396 (r)
12 x 15,2-cm Feldhaubitze 433 (r)
9.Fallschirmjager Division Brauer
I./25.Fallschirmjager Rgt. Regiment Consisted of only 200 men!
II./25.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
III./25.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
I./26.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
II./26.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
III./26.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
I./27.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
II./27.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
III./27.Fallschirmjager Rgt.
9.Fallschirmjager Artillerie Abt.
9.Fallschirmjager Panzerjager Abt. 8 hetzer
20.Panzergrenadier Division Scholze
I./76.Panzergrenadier Rgt.
II./76.Panzergrenadier Rgt.
III./76.Panzergrenadier Rgt.
I./90.Panzergrenadier Rgt.
II./90.Panzergrenadier Rgt.
III./90.Panzergrenadier Rgt.
8.Panzer Abt. 15 pz iv, 16 pz iv(L), 3 flak iv
20.Artillerie Rgt. 3 abteilungen
Muncheberg Panzer Division Mummert
I./Muncheberg Pz.Gren.Rgt 1
II./Muncheberg Pz.Gren.Rgt 1
I./Muncheberg Pz.Gren.Rgt 2
II./Muncheberg Pz.Gren.Rgt 2
I/29.Pz.Abt
Pz.Art.Muncheberg
Pz.Jg.Kp.Muncheberg
Pz.Spah.Kp.Muncheberg
Pz.Pi.Kp.Muncheberg
920.Doberitz Panzejager Brigade
XI.SS Panzer Korps Kleinheisterkamp
s.SS.Pz.Abt.502 Hatrampf
303.Doberitz Infanterie Division Scheunemann +Nachrichten Abt.
I./300.G.R
II./300.G.R
I./301.G.R
II./301.G.R
I./302.G.R
II./302.G.R
303.Fus.Btl
303.Art.Rgt
169.Infanterie Division Radziej
I./378.G.R
II./378.G.R
III./378.G.R
I./379.G.R
II./379.G.R
I./392.G.R
II./392.G.R
III./392.G.R
Fus.Btl.230
Art.Rgt.230
712.Infanterie Division von Siegroth
I./732.G.R
II./732.G.R
I./745.G.R
II./745.G.R
I./764.G.R
II./764.G.R
1712.Art.Rgt
Pz.Jg.Abt.712
I./Fhj.Rgt.1239
II./Fhj.Rgt.1239
I./Fhj.Rgt.1241
II./Fhj.Rgt.1241
Alarm Btl Hauck
Volkssturm Btl 3/108
Schatten Rgt.B
Alarm Btl.63
Kurmark Panzergrenadier Division Langkeit +Nachrichten Abt. +Versorgung
Pz.Fus.Rgt Kurmark
I./Pz.Rgt.Kurmark 16 jagdpz.38
I./Pz.Rgt.Brandenburg 3 pz iv
I./Pz.Gren.Rgt.1 Kurmark
II./Pz.Gren.Rgt.1 Kurmark
I./Pz.Gren.Rgt.2 Kurmark
II./Pz.Gren.Rgt.2 Kurmark
Pi.Btl
Heeres Flak-Bttr.
Festung Frankfurt Biehler
I./Fest.Gr.Rgt.2

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RE: Work in progress - 10/10/2011 6:21:58 PM

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Will it stay a mix of German & English designations?

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RE: Work in progress - 10/12/2011 8:53:52 AM

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No, and I'm planning to standardize the abbreviations as well.

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RE: Work in progress - 10/26/2011 7:49:51 PM

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I have finished the coastline. Now working on extending the map as far as the Elbe.

German OOB is more or less finished, as soon as i can force myself to stop combing through the sources for units like Wach-Btl.Siemensstadt, LW.Wach.Btl.Berlin or Versuchs-Abt. Berlin Spandau. On the other hand i was very excited this evening to learn from a reliable source that Lds.Schtz.Btl.320
did indeed take part in the struggle against the Red Army, starting on 20 April.

Yes, yes, I'm nuts, and I'll never finish this thing. I know.

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RE: Work in progress - 10/27/2011 12:29:29 AM

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Speaking of coastline, any plan to incorporate an amphibious invasion?
Question is did the Russians have the capability to conduct such an operation, I don't know fact is it wasn't necessary but it could be a nice what if in case the Russian player is really not getting ahead at all.

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