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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/8/2011 3:23:36 PM   
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CenPac: The KB retired toward Kwajalein, which takes the heat off a variety of transports and supply ships south of Tarawa. One TF, carrying a Sea Bee unit originally slated for Makin Island, is going to divert to Ndeni. A big TF carrying another Sea Bee unit plus a Marine RCT to Makin is closing from near Christmas Island.

NoPac: The ships are making their final adjustments to follow orders as they await arrival of the final transport TF, which will reach the rendezvous point in two days. The ships will go in to Paramushiro in four or five days. The Allies should have three land-based fighter squadrons to help with CAP, plus Wasp's fighters if needed. (Wasp will stand to the rear, mainly to provide strike capability if an opportunity or need arises). I think Japan might have two cruisers up here of the four originally posted. One of those four, Haguro, was just sighted near Balikpan five days ago. I don't know if there are any carrires up here, but the most I'd expect would be a CS or CVE.

SoPac: The Allies are beginning to run low on supply at Pago Pago. I will have to attend to this in a more systematic way than I have over the past few weeks.

DEI: BC Repulse and CA Portland are about to depart Cocos Island for Oosthaven. BB North Carolina and CAs Pensacola and New Orleans leave Melbourne for Perth tonight. BB Warspite is near Hobart on its way to Perth. Another RN R-Class BB is ready to go at Colombo and will accompany Ent and York on their return trip tomorrow. In seven days, the Allies will have four BB and one BC on station in the DEI. The APD TF made an uneventful run to Toabali on Banka Island. Tonight they try the same thing running to Billiton Island. IJ patrols caught a whiff of the APDs, I think. I wonder if Steve will sniff out what's going on? The first units slated to go to Toabali and Billiton by APD will arrive at Oosthaven in less than a week.

Burma: The IJ Army is finally on the move towards Meiktila. I don't know yet whether I'll stand or retire. The Allies should have about 550 to 600 AV and might be facing two divisions. But if I retire, there's really nowhere better to fight short of the Ledo - Kohima line through the jungles, so I probably need to stay and fight (unless I become satisfied that the number are too one sided).

China: The cursor now shows 13 IJ units at Nanchang, rather than 2. I wont' risk a crossing against what may be three to five well-entrenched divisions (I know 15th is there), so my guys shall retire to Changsha.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/8/2011 8:55:28 PM   
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NoPac: Patrols from Paramushiro report a Japanese TF including a CL just east of Ketoi Jima. This is interesting given the Allies shipping around Bering Island. Wasp and the two combat TFs will move a few hexes south tonight, exiting the Berring Sea and taking station just south of Berring Island. The troop and supply TFs are a bit to the northwest, awaiting arrival of the last of the TFs, which will be on station by tomorrow. If the enemy TF doesn't appear to be a threat - IE, if it doesn't seem to have carriers - the Allied ships will proceed to Para. If the enemy Tf appears to have carriers or stout combat ships present, Wasp can react. In fact, it's possible the two sides could meet in battle tomorrow if the Japanese TF steams hard on a NE course. I'm nearly positive the Japanese don't have any big carriers up this way, so I'm willing to await developments rather than fleeing.

CenPac: An IJ cruiser TF arrived at Tarawa, but didn't find any prey. I've moved a small SBD unit there. An advance and lonely xAP carrying part of a Sea Bee unit will arrive at Ndeni in two or three days. This is a bit of a scouting mission. My hope is that it will remain undetected. If sighted, the element of surprise will be lost and the entire operation will have to be scrubbed. The Allies can't afford to send good ships into distant waters that the enemy can control if the enemy wishes to. But I think there's a decent chance of obtaining surprise, getting some troops and engineers ashore at Ndeni and Vanua Lava, and then building forts for awhile (not builing airfields until later, as doing so would attract attention at a point where I don't want attention).

SoPac: Enemy carrier TF SW of Pago Pago (probably the Hiyo/Junyo group that was here a few weeks ago).

DEI: The APD TF made a supply run to Billiton Island without incident. This is good work for these handy ships, and it's great that they can make the run and return to Oosthaven in one evening. I'm wondering if Steve pulled Yamato and some other ships from the Pago Pago campaign, since she wasn't present when Hyuga and Yamashiro made their last visit a week ago). I know Kirishima is in the Java vicinity. Steve is patroling these waters heavily, and a sub just nosed its way into Oosthaven's harbor, getting a good look at my combat ships there. BC Renown and CA Portland will arrive tomorrow or the next day. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve tries another combat ship attack here soon.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/8/2011 9:52:13 PM   
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/8/2011 10:43:00 PM   
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Does the act of building an AF raise a DL?


It turns up in the operations report.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/9/2011 2:07:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Smeulders is right. Base building generates reports (via Ops and also by cursor) that should tip an alert player to activity.

Thinking further, though, I can't afford to sit and just build forts. The supply limit at a dot hex is just 5,000, which is a real problem. Better to build the port and airfield several levels, if possible, to allow more supply to come in.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't be targeting the Santa Cruz Islands at this point in the game. They are pretty far forward and not within supporting distance of my other bases. That means they are subject to being blockaded, isolated, and reduced.

Why do it then? Because Steve's navy has been heavily attrited in the game to date. Right now, the Japanese navy is needed in the Bay of Bengal (to escort ships to Rangoon), the DEI, Pago Pago, the Tarawa region, and NoPac. Creating a new hot spot will further stretch the IJN and further stress Steve (because it is right on his LOC to Pago Pago, which he clearly puts alot of emphasis on).

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/9/2011 8:38:34 PM   
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NoPac: The Japanese TF turned out to be destroyers and perhaps an APD or two on a run to Amchitka Island (I think). Patrols out of Attu sighted the enemty TF and then SBDs from Wasp sortied at a range of seven, putting a single 1,000-pounder into DD Matsukaze. This "blows Wasp's cover," but it also means if any enemy shipping is sighted approaching the area, we can trust that it's something powerful enough that Steve wants to take on the Allied TF. Wasp and two combat TFs will continue south, taking station six or eight hexes NE of Para. All the supply/reinforcements TFs will head into Para, though it should take two days. A Wildcat squadron and a P-39 squadron made the jump from Attu to Para, thus creating a fighter presence between the enemy bases and Wasp.

CenPac: KB is up around Majuro. Tenyru combat TF seems to still be at Tarawa, but the Allied SBD unit at Tabituea didn't sortie. I've moved it plus another squadron from Canton up to Tarawa. A lone-wolf Allied xAP carrying part of a Sea Bee unit will arrive at Ndeni tonight. No signs of detection.

SoPac: Japanese-held Savaii Island airfield goes to level three.

DEI: Another run by APDs taking supply to Billiton Island. The Repulse TF arrived at Oosthaven. The Valiant TF will arrive at Cocos tonight, merge with the Portland TF, and report to Oosthaven. At that point, the Allies will have three decent combat TFs at Oost plus a destroyer TF. A TF led by CA Vincennes departs Colombo tonight to take over the station at Cocos Island. Ent and York made it out of Colombo without incident and should reach the station near Cocos in five or six days.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/10/2011 2:29:28 AM   
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NoPac: The Allied force moves closer to Paramushiro without incident. Most of the transports will arrive tonight in the company of a combat TF flagged by BB Pennsylvania and CL Phoenix. Wasp will remain behind - about ten hexes NE of the size-three enemy airfield at Ketoi Jima. Three land-based fighter squadrons are deployed at Paramushiro. To the south, off the coast of Honshu, Guardfish put single torps into a TB and an xAK, and damaged two xAKL by guns. That's unusually aggressive behavior for an Allied sub in my experience.

CenPac: Two SBD units at Tarawa missed the unprotected CL Tenyru TF at Tarawa in a display of particularly poor skills. The xAP arrived at Ndeni and unloaded some engineers without incident. Three xAKs carrying most of the unit will arrive in about two days. No signs of detection, which is what I had hoped for. I think Ndeni is in a non-patrolled sector, so only by an enemy TF happening upon the activity will Steve be alerted. That's good! KB still up around Majuro.

SoPac: Lots of enemy shipping between Fiji and Savaii. If the Allies succeed in getting Ndeni's airfield and port built over the next few weeks, Steve is really going to have a cow when he finds the enemy entrenching at the base of his very long LOC to the Fiji/Pago Pago areas. :)

DEI: Allied destroyers hammer and probably sink I-166 at Oosthaven. The APDs continue to do great work pre-positioning supply at Billiton and Toabali. A single APD fresh from Colombo delivered supply to the Marine raiders at Siberot, and stayed right there during the daylight hours. APDs on Fast Transport duty aren't supposed to remain at exposed bases during daylight hours, but it happens all the time, and usually with very bad consequences. However, this one got away with it. The small Allied army late from Sibolga has nearly reached Padang now, where the Allies will have 450 AV behind three forts in this jungle hex. I intend to fight for this base. The advance enemy force includes at least one division (21st). SigInt over the past few days includes reports of troops prepping for Palembang and Oosthaven. The latter unit is 6th Guards Division, most recently seen at Semereng, Java, a month ago. That makes sense that it's prepping for Sumatra, but its very, very late. We've entered the phase now where the Allies are transitioning from pure defensive posture in Sumatra to offensive preparations.

Burma: 4th Guards plus one other division are advancing on Meitila.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/10/2011 2:39:09 AM   
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/10/2011 2:46:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		He's coming overland to at least sniff out Pagang. I'll fight him there. He might be bringing more, but that will take a long time, the roads are bad, and the defensive terrain is good. He could possibly make things very hard on the Allies if he brings ten divisions overland from western Sumatra, but he wouldn't be in a position to fight until September or later. That's too late.

Another anomoly that's been developing lately is that he's finally attending to Malaybalay, where the Allies have 450 AV in a rough, jungle hex with 3k supply. It would have been fun to take advantage of this "Alamo" on Mindanao (Nemo did in his game vs. One-Eyed-Jacks), but it's awfully late for Steve to be attending to major "mop up" targets. He still has to attend to Darwin, Port Moresby, and Port Blair, and the Allies hope to string things out long enough that he can't do so.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 6:33:03 PM   
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NoPac: SBDs from Wasp sortie and damage or sink three DDs that were about eight hexes east of Para; I can only guess these were scouting ships. All but one of the supply and troop transports reached Para, but too late in the day to permit unloading to begin. These ships will need about two days to get the bulk of their cargo ashore. The Pennsylvania TF will remain on station to protect. I've also transferred Wasps F4Fs here, while Wasp moves to the NE just in case Steve has something in the works. At the moment everything looks good here.

CenPac: The KB remains on station near Maloelap. More engineers are ashore at Ndeni with no signs of detection. A big reinforcement covoy carrying a Marine regiment and Sea Bee unit to Makin is nearing theater on a course that will bring it up for the south. There's danger nearby, so I have to be careful. Another TF is arriving in theater carrying stout infantry reinforcements and an EAB to Ndeni. Another TF, this one carrying inantry and Sea Bees to Vanua Lava, just departed Pearl Harbor.

SoPac: Finback tangles with a combat TF including BB Hyuga near Pago Pago. Yamashiro has been part of this TF, but I don't know whether she's still present.

DEI: A TF carrying 182nd RCT is about three days out of Oosthaven. Another carrying 22nd East African is about seven days out. The APDs continue making runs to preposition supply at Billiton (where 182nd will go) and Toabali (where 22nd will go). Valiant will arrive at Oosthaven tonight. North Carolina will arrive at Perth in two days; Warpsite in three. All Allied units that retired from Sibolga have arrived at Padang. I think Steve will besiege Padang using 21st Division, with two armored units perhaps moving to cut the roads leading east. Allied armored units will move that way to be in supporting distance.

Burma: It appears that part of the IJ army will move cross country to strike at Magwe rather than moving directly to invest Meiktila. The Allies will counter by shifting some forces around and by air-transporting an Indian brigade to Magwe from Chittagong.

China: The Chinese army is on the road back to Changsha. I'm looking for another opportunity.

Strategic Situation: I think Steve is mulling over things and planning an attack of some kind of Sumatra (I think it will include BBs Yamato and Kirshima), but I think right now he's more focused on Tarawa and Pago Pago, with lots of power committed in both theaters. These Allied bases are well garrisoned. I don't want to lose either of them, but of the two, Tarawa is the more important. I'm not sure yet what impression the Allied moves in the Kuriles will make on Steve, but I'd err on the side of guessing he'll want to strike at Wasp and try to take control of the sea lanes, even if he doesn't immediately address the Allied bases. Overall, Steve has divided his attention when he should (IMO) be focues almost solely on the DEI, or NoPac and the DEI in close sequence.


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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 6:46:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tip (or reminder): I had a Mohawk squadron at Adak that I wanted to upgrade to Warhawks to support the Paramushiro effort. So I moved it to Anchorage (via Cold Bay and Kodiak), which is a level six airfield where I upgraded other units. But the upgrade button was greyed out. So I next moved it down to Seattle (with hops to Juneau and an airfield in Canada). Low and behold, the upgrade option is still greyed out. What the hey, I'm thinkin'. Then I rembered I left part of the squadron back at Adak (disabled planes at the time the squadron left). I disbanded that fragment, and the upgrade option was enabled.

Most of you know this requirement for upgrading, but it had completely slipped my mind. As a result, a squadron I was counting on to help is now a good five or six days from being available.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 8:03:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		NoPac on 8/1/42. CAP at Paramushiro is provided by 75 fighters based at the airfield.




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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 8:12:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The KB has been hanging around this area for days. Allied patrols have had her under observation for much of the past few weeks. If you want to give your opponent a feeling of security, let him keep tabs on your carrier force for extended periods of time.






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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 8:20:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Japanese have major force concentrations around Mili/Maloelap to the north, and around Fiji/Savaii Island to the south. In the middle and to the west, the Allies are just beginning to occupy and build Ndeni, with Vanua Lava to follow in about a week.

As anticipated, the Santa Cruz Islands seem to be a "hole in the donut" of Japanese patrol activity and operations. Eventually, something will happen to alert Steve to what's going on - a combat TF heading to Tarawa from Rabaul; a supply TF bound from Lunga to Fiji; etc. But given two weeks of quiet, Steve will find a major Allied operation underway right on his extended LOC from the Solomons to Fiji, Savaii Island, and even New Caledonia.




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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 8:24:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Japan has invested a great deal of ships, men, and time in the Samoa Campaign. What's Steve going to do when he finds a major Allied build-up occuring way back along his LOC at the Santa Cruz Island? (Assuming the Allied operation there remains undetected for a few weeks.)




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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 8:28:16 PM   
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Japan has invested a great deal of ships, men, and time in the Samoa Campaign. What's Steve going to do when he finds a major Allied build-up occuring way back along his LOC at the Santa Cruz Island? (Assuming the Allied operation there remains undetected for a few weeks.)




Won't mean a thing if Japan intends to capture Tarawa and Tabitauae (sp).

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 8:39:34 PM   
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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 8:40:28 PM   
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Won't mean a thing if Japan intends to capture Tarawa and Tabitauae (sp).
Alfred


Yes, I know.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 9:52:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, Albert might not find it worrisome to have the Allies building a major base a 1000 miles behind him and his other bases to the west, but as a Japanese player I sure would. Tarawa is a rather meaningless outpost if the Allies do not allow the IJN to force commitment of the Allied navy to hold it while the IJN is still relatively strong. Similarly Fiji and the other unspellable island mentioned. Yes, there could be a loss of valuable troops at Pago and Tarawa.

But, given time to build a defensible base at Ndeni and expand to Vanuta Lava and say Loganville (don't know if it is occupied), then a secondary offensive axis Loganville, Ndeni, Guadacanal, New Britain, Phillipines makes Fiji, Tarawa, Somoa a nice prison colony faster than you can say "Palembang is full of oil".

August is here and the Allies are starting to act offensively. The counter-puching days are at an end and the great, now awakened, giant takes the battle to the brash sons of the rising son. Nice.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 10:00:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alfred's point is valid, but obvious. Japan still has the "oomph" to select a point and overwhelm the Allies. If Japan really wants to, it can reclaim Paramushiro, Tarawa, Pago Pago, Ndeni, or Port Blair (but no longer eastern Sumatra, in my opinion; that is beyond Japan's grasp to impose its will unilaterally, now). The point is that Japan can't handle all of these, so the more "hot spots" added to Japan's list of high-priority problems, the better.

What the Allies are trying to accomplish is to take low risk/high reward gambles that add to the pressure on Japan. Creating a complex of bases in the Santa Cruz Islands will do that, just as reinforcing and resupplying Paramushiro (and later Onnekotan) will.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/11/2011 10:04:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, Ndeni could be supported by LOC from Australia so getting close to its LOC from the USA is less effective.

Its also very easy sitting in CR's AAR, what must Chez think when another line of threat appears!

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 1:02:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why not press further down the Kurile chain? You seem to have the only CV in the area, have the upper hand in large combatants, a land based air umbrella, and the season is getting late - anything you take may well be safe for the winter.

As you say he is totally preoccupied elsewhere. plus your 4 engine bombers really would like to get into the action and drain off some of his excess fighters. Without the DEI oil any hits on his HI will be a critical drain.

I understand that this isn't set up logistically but...just my thoughts as a move here would really, really force him to respond in a panic.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 1:20:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, desicat. They're are many reasons not to press down any further. Among the most important:

1) Japan has had four months to garrison bases in the Kuriles and to build forts.

2) Japan has multiple airbases covering those islands, which are more than sufficient to counter any Allied air power that could project that far.

3) Any invaison would be very risky to ships and would require a large commitment of troops.

4) The Allies are very short on Political Points and don't have enough to buy restricted units that would be necessary for such an undertaking.

5) If held, Para and Onnekotan Jima are more than sufficient to permit Allied 4EB to strike Japanese resources at bases like Shikuka.

6) Para and Onne are at risk The Allies only have 150 AV (two forts) at Onne, and 450 AV (three forts) at Para. Japan can mount amphibious attacks that would rather readily take both bases, so each "cries" for reinforcement.

7) The Allied lodgement in the Kuriles poses a major threat to Japan, which simply has to address them sooner or later. The Allies wish to be prepared, both with strong garrisons and with a naval presence strong enough to require a major commitment by Japan.

8) Such a commitment by Japan likely will succeed, but will draw off resources dearly needed in other theaters (especially the DEI). Allied activity in the Kuriles is and always has been about benefiting the Allied defense of Sumatra. If Japan doesn't attend to this threat fairly soon, though, the Kuriles themselves become a major Allied base that poses a separate major threat to Japan.

Thus, the answer to your question is that the Kuriles represent a complexly woven tapestry, with the current operation advancing the Allied position there.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 1:30:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cr, Thank you for the detailed reply. It would be hard to argue against your logic.

I will make a prediction, based upon his current force disposition he will not only fail to dislodge your current holdings but come the Spring of 1943 this spearhead will become the main focus of the war.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 6:06:50 AM   
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He's coming overland to at least sniff out Pagang. I'll fight him there. He might be bringing more, but that will take a long time, the roads are bad, and the defensive terrain is good. He could possibly make things very hard on the Allies if he brings ten divisions overland from western Sumatra, but he wouldn't be in a position to fight until September or later. That's too late.

Another anomoly that's been developing lately is that he's finally attending to Malaybalay, where the Allies have 450 AV in a rough, jungle hex with 3k supply. It would have been fun to take advantage of this "Alamo" on Mindanao (Nemo did in his game vs. One-Eyed-Jacks), but it's awfully late for Steve to be attending to major "mop up" targets. He still has to attend to Darwin, Port Moresby, and Port Blair, and the Allies hope to string things out long enough that he can't do so.


I just took Malaybalay in my game with Bill. We're at the end of June 42 and it was a surprise when I hit it and got repulsed the first time. Not nice. Sort of rude even!

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 2:19:02 PM   
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NoPac: A singularly unsatisfying day up here. I had expected the Allied transports to drop at least 20k supply since they are amphibiously loaded and had a full day to work. Instead, only about 3,500 supply came ashore - half was devoted to resupplying the units. At this rate it will take a long time for the ships to unload, and time means exposure as the enemy has a chance to organize a response to the attack. Secondly, waves of Japanese fighters tangled with the Allied CAP. The Allied aircraft held their own, but most of the squadrons are now heavily disabled. I have two more LBA squadrons on the way to theater, but both are also currently heavily disabled (one at Adak and one at Prince Rupert). Most of the reinforcing RCT did come ashore, boosting Allied AV to about 500.

CenPac: No sign of the KB today. Unloading of engineers and supply at Ndeni continues without detection. Next to arrive at this base will be a port service unit that is perhaps three days out. Then comes a larger convoy carrying infantry and more engineers. It might be six days out. The TF carrying Marines and Sea Bees to Makin is about two days south of Tarawa and on the final approach.

SoPac: Heavy enemy naval bombardment and figher sweeps agains Pago Pago. Confirmed that the enemy has BBs Yamashior and Hyuga, plus CAs Nachi, Ashigara, Chikuma, and Tone.

Enemy Cruisers: The commitment of IJN capital ships to SoPac is interesting information. Ashigara and Nachi were posted in NoPac earlier in the year, suggesting that Steve has a pretty weak force up there now (I'm guessing no more than two CAs, if that). Thus, there are four CAs in SoPac, three known to be in the DEI (Kumano, Hagura and Maya), at least one near Tarawa (Kinugasa), and seven confirmed sunk. That leaves only three currently unaccounted for. It is likely that one or more of these is operating with the KB. So Steve has to be very weak in NoPac, and the force allocated to the DEI is woefully deficient, where Japan will have less capital ships (though ships of better quality) than the Allies. Japan cannot successfully invade Sumatra with half of her capital ships in SoPac and CenPac.

DEI: Enemy combat TF sighted at Semereng. I think Steve may employ Yamato, Kirishima, the three CAs, and perhaps more against Allied shipping at Oosthaven. The Allies currently have BB Valiant, BC Repulse, and CAs Portland, Chester, and Salt Lake City posted there. The Allies would likely lose and perhaps lose badly any clash between those two forces. But Japan cannot afford to lose even a signle capital ship at this point, so the Allies will stand and fight. Reinforcements are on the way. BB Revenge and CAs Devonshire and Indianapolis are four days away. BB North Carolina and CAs Pensacola and New Orleans are six days out. BB Warspite will arrive in about eight days. In one week, if nothing happens in the meantime, the Allies will have a much larger force at Oosthaven than Japan can bring over the short term.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 4:51:33 PM   
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NoPac: A singularly unsatisfying day up here. I had expected the Allied transports to drop at least 20k supply since they are amphibiously loaded and had a full day to work. Instead, only about 3,500 supply came ashore - half was devoted to resupplying the units. At this rate it will take a long time for the ships to unload, and time means exposure as the enemy has a chance to organize a response to the attack.


Is the port still a 1, or has it gone up? This might only work for one ship if it's still a 1, but have you tried disengaging one or a few ships up to the docking limit and unloading those while docked, as well as continuing to unload the undocked TF? Seems to speed things up and once those finish you can get them out of there.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 5:24:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: obvert

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NoPac: A singularly unsatisfying day up here. I had expected the Allied transports to drop at least 20k supply since they are amphibiously loaded and had a full day to work. Instead, only about 3,500 supply came ashore - half was devoted to resupplying the units. At this rate it will take a long time for the ships to unload, and time means exposure as the enemy has a chance to organize a response to the attack.


Is the port still a 1, or has it gone up? This might only work for one ship if it's still a 1, but have you tried disengaging one or a few ships up to the docking limit and unloading those while docked, as well as continuing to unload the undocked TF? Seems to speed things up and once those finish you can get them out of there.


+1. I have had success with this sort of approach.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/12/2011 7:13:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I have one TF of three 3,200k ships docked (Para is a size two port), with the remaining TFs undocked. Basically, I was hoping my busy sailors would be tossing packages into the surf, but they insist on being neat and orderly. :)

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/13/2011 11:50:39 AM   
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I'll post a complete report for the day later, but I wanted to focus for a moment on a terrible naval action in the Kuriles (I could title this "Carnage in the Kuriles," but the would be awful alliteration...it would be purile and putrid posting).\

By the way, notice that the amount of moonlight decreases during the turn...the dadgum moon was setting as this battle raged. Talk about level of detail in gaming!

Night Time Surface Combat, near Paramushiro-jima at 137,47, Range 4,000 Yards
Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Naganami
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DD Arare
DD Umikaze

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
CL Phoenix
DD Bagley, Shell hits 3
DD Helm
DD Henley
DD Cummings, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Phelps
DD Monaghan, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Fox
DD Kane, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DMS Boggs, Shell hits 1

Poor visibility due to Rain with 71% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 71% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 4,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 4,000 yards
Tobita, Kenjiro crosses the 'T'
BB Pennsylvania engages DD Yukikaze at 4,000 yards
BB Pennsylvania engages DD Arare at 4,000 yards
DD Kane engages DD Arare at 4,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Kane at 4,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Arare at 4,000 yards
DD Phelps engages DD Natsushio at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages BB Pennsylvania at 2,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Arare at 2,000 yards
DD Kane engages DD Natsushio at 2,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Natsushio at 2,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Monaghan at 2,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Phelps at 2,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Cummings at 2,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Bagley at 2,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DMS Boggs at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
BB Pennsylvania sunk by DD Yukikaze at 3,000 yards
DD Cummings engages DD Arare at 3,000 yards
DD Kane engages DD Yukikaze at 3,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Cummings at 3,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Monaghan at 3,000 yards
DD Cummings sunk by DD Naganami at 3,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Henley at 3,000 yards
DD Helm engages DD Yukikaze at 3,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Bagley at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Umikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Kane at 2,000 yards
DD Fox engages DD Umikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Phelps engages DD Naganami at 2,000 yards
DD Helm engages DD Yukikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Bagley at 2,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DMS Boggs at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CL Phoenix engages DD Yukikaze at 7,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Kane at 7,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Fox at 7,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DD Monaghan at 7,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Phelps at 7,000 yards
DD Natsushio engages DD Henley at 7,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Bagley at 7,000 yards
DD Yukikaze engages DMS Boggs at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Bagley at 10,000 yards
DD Arare engages DD Kane at 10,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Yukikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Natsushio at 10,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Kane at 10,000 yards
DD Henley engages DD Yukikaze at 10,000 yards
DD Helm engages DD Natsushio at 10,000 yards
DD Umikaze engages DD Bagley at 10,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Paramushiro-jima at 137,47, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 1
DD Yugure, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Satsuki
TB Kari
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
DD Lardner, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
xAK Caleb Strong, Shell hits 21, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK George H. Williams, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK John C. Calhoun, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK John Page, Shell hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Stephen J. Field, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage


Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Poor visibility due to Rain with 71% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 71% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages DD Lardner at 6,000 yards
DD Lardner engages DD Satsuki at 6,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages xAK John C. Calhoun at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages DD Lardner at 5,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK John Page at 5,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK John C. Calhoun at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Lardner engages DD Myojinami at 2,000 yards
DD Lardner engages DD Satsuki at 2,000 yards
TB Kari engages xAK John Page at 2,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages DD Lardner at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK George H. Williams at 2,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages xAK Caleb Strong at 2,000 yards
DD Lardner engages DD Myojinami at 2,000 yards
DD Lardner engages DD Satsuki at 2,000 yards
DD Lardner engages DD Yugure at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK John C. Calhoun at 2,000 yards
TB Kari engages xAK George H. Williams at 2,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages xAK Caleb Strong at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Lardner engages DD Myojinami at 3,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Stephen J. Field at 3,000 yards
xAK John C. Calhoun sunk by DD Yugure at 3,000 yards
xAK George H. Williams sunk by TB Kari at 3,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Caleb Strong at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Lardner at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK Stephen J. Field at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK John Page at 2,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages xAK Caleb Strong at 2,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages DD Lardner at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Stephen J. Field at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Lardner at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Caleb Strong at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages DD Lardner at 3,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Paramushiro-jima at 137,47, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Nenohi
DD Yugure, on fire
DD Satsuki
TB Kari
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
xAK Susan Luckenbach, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Manulani, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Clevedon, Shell hits 24, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Don Isidro, Shell hits 5, on fire
xAK Eldorado, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced visibility due to Rain with 60% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 60% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
TB Kari engages xAK Eldorado at 6,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Eldorado at 6,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Eldorado at 6,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages xAK Eldorado at 6,000 yards
TB Kari engages xAK Eldorado at 6,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK Eldorado at 6,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Clevedon at 6,000 yards
TB Kari engages xAK Clevedon at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK Don Isidro at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Clevedon at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Manulani at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK Susan Luckenbach at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Eldorado at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK Clevedon at 2,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Clevedon at 2,000 yards
xAK Manulani sunk by DD Nenohi at 2,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages xAK Clevedon at 2,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK Clevedon at 2,000 yards
xAK Susan Luckenbach sunk by DD Nenohi at 2,000 yards
Sakai K. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages xAK Eldorado at 4,000 yards
DD Satsuki engages xAK Don Isidro at 4,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Clevedon at 4,000 yards
DD Nenohi engages xAK Eldorado at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
DD Myojinami engages xAK Eldorado at 9,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Don Isidro at 9,000 yards
DD Yugure engages xAK Don Isidro at 9,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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