RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> Gary Grigsby's War in the East Series >> RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed

Page: << < prev 1 [2]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed - 5/8/2011 6:32:42 PM

Mehring

Posts: 2179
Joined: 1/25/2007
Status: offline

Well, here we are again, same issue in a different context.

We do not have a choice between historical and random weather but between predictable and random weather. The front was never so totally shut down in the summer as it can be using random weather. With a realistic weather model, random weather should be the more realistic option because it creates uncertainty and deprives the players of omniscience. As things stand, predictable weather is actually more realistic because the weather system is fundamentally flawed.

WitE has enough detail in the levels of ice but hoplessly insufficient detail in its weather zones. An interim compromise would be to quadruple or so the number of weather zones but we really need a granular system.

_____________________________

�Old age is the most unexpected of all things that can happen to a man.�
-Leon Trotsky

(in reply to Sabre21)

Post #: 31

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed - 5/8/2011 6:37:32 PM

Scook_99

Posts: 301
Joined: 6/20/2007
Status: offline

Agree with Andy on this one, and so would my friend, if he were to post. If it's in the game, use it or lose it. Makes for more desperate game play which can lead to legendary games that you and your friend remember 25 years later.

Did have a game go only 5 turns here before I did surrender. I didn't know my friend put on random weather, moved 1st Pz Army out on a daring maneuver knowing I would be cut off next turn, but would get a cast encirclement out of it. Got cut off, mud hits, can't move, 5 pz divisions, 2 SS motorized divisions, and 3 motorized divisions gone. Yes, they didn't die until the next turn (clear), but the separation of the mobile units and my infantry was so great I couldn't even march to get them in supply.

(in reply to Sabre21)

Post #: 32

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed - 5/8/2011 6:55:14 PM

PyleDriver

Posts: 6152
Joined: 4/19/2006
From: Occupied Mexico aka Rio Grand Valley, S.Texas
Status: offline

Well the good side of playing random is you may get a snow turn or two in the middle of the blizzard...

_____________________________

Jon Pyle
AWD Beta tester
WBTS Alpha tester
WitE Alpha tester
WitW Alpha tester
WitE2 Alpha tester

(in reply to Sabre21)

Post #: 33

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed - 5/8/2011 7:43:45 PM

Redmarkus5

Posts: 4456
Joined: 12/1/2007
From: 0.00
Status: offline

LOL.

The problem with the way random weather works in WiTE is down to the lack of granularity in the weather zones. If the random mud only affected the advance of, say, one Armee, it would be a good feature, but mud all across the entire front is insane.

_____________________________

WitE2 tester, WitW, WitP, CMMO, CM2, GTOS, GTMF, WP & WPP, TOAW4, BA2

(in reply to PeeDeeAitch)

Post #: 34

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed - 5/8/2011 7:44:37 PM

Redmarkus5

Posts: 4456
Joined: 12/1/2007
From: 0.00
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mehring

Well, here we are again, same issue in a different context.

We do not have a choice between historical and random weather but between predictable and random weather. The front was never so totally shut down in the summer as it can be using random weather. With a realistic weather model, random weather should be the more realistic option because it creates uncertainty and deprives the players of omniscience. As things stand, predictable weather is actually more realistic because the weather system is fundamentally flawed.

WitE has enough detail in the levels of ice but hoplessly insufficient detail in its weather zones. An interim compromise would be to quadruple or so the number of weather zones but we really need a granular system.

+1

_____________________________

WitE2 tester, WitW, WitP, CMMO, CM2, GTOS, GTMF, WP & WPP, TOAW4, BA2

(in reply to Mehring)

Post #: 35

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed - 5/8/2011 8:50:58 PM

Sabre21

Posts: 8231
Joined: 4/27/2001
From: on a mountain in Idaho
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: redmarkus4

LOL.

The problem with the way random weather works in WiTE is down to the lack of granularity in the weather zones. If the random mud only affected the advance of, say, one Armee, it would be a good feature, but mud all across the entire front is insane.

I could probably hunt down my suggestion on that one from ages ago. I agree with you on this. I wanted to see much smaller weather zones, preferably only a hundred miles across (10 hexes). ideally it would incorporate weather patterns so mud in one zone one turn might end up in an adjacent zone downwind the following turn. Oh well..maybe down the road.

_____________________________

(in reply to Redmarkus5)

Post #: 36

RE: Ok, count me in as a bit distressed - 5/8/2011 8:56:47 PM

PeeDeeAitch

Posts: 1276
Joined: 1/1/2007
From: Laramie, Wyoming
Status: offline

I will trade you gigantic weather zones for the "Sabre Special" armored walkers!

_____________________________

"The torment of precautions often exceeds the dangers to be avoided. It is sometimes better to abandon one's self to destiny."

- Call me PDH

- WitE noob tester

(in reply to Sabre21)

Post #: 37