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RE: To Sir Robin or not Sir Robin in PBEM - 5/17/2011 10:27:54 AM

Reg

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ORIGINAL: Miller

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ORIGINAL: Reg

These AARs are from WITP but they make interesting reading as John 3rd thumbs his nose at Sir Robin and the hapless Miller41.....

The Fleet the Gods Forgot: ALLIED Perspective
The Fleet the Gods Forgot - Japanese Prospective

I would just like to point out I am not the "Miller" in this game (I think his forum name is miller41).

Sorry about that. I didn't realise there was more than one....

Fixed above.

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RE: To Sir Robin or not Sir Robin in PBEM - 5/17/2011 11:02:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nemo121
... I wouldn't really recommend the Fleet the Gods Forgot for numerous reasons, mostly because I think it teaches the wrong "lessons" and there's a distinct lack of logistical nous on both sides which would be a bad thing to learn.

I will go along with this assessment of Fleet the Gods Forgot as a model of strategy. John said up front that he knew the game was not going the full distance which allowed him to pursue an extreme example of strategy not otherwise seen.

The reason I brought those AAR to your attention was they demonstrate that the Allied side is not toothless tiger and can be dangerous if cornered by an overconfident Japanese player. Unfortunately their position is hopelessly compromised and you would be unwise to attempt to emulate John 3rd in a long term game. However, given the right circumstances.....

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RE: To Sir Robin or not Sir Robin in PBEM - 5/17/2011 2:58:04 PM

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Reg,

Ah, it becomes clearer. You mustn't have read my AARs. I think that a quick read of them would show I don't require conversion to that belief.

As to John3rd: You'd be unwise to emulate his strategic thought or logistics in any long-term game. He undertakes action for no better reason than for it to be flashy, attacks things cause thy are there as opposed to them being vital and often suffers near-disaster through logistics mis-management which has to be fixed by others.

I have no doubt that he's an affable opponent - and I PBEMed him in an ACW wargame some years ago and found him pleasant - but for a long-term game like AE not taking care of your logistics is death and will destroy you far quicker than enemy action ever will. So, one must read his AARs with extreme caution if one is seeking to find something to emulate, IMO.

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RE: To Sir Robin or not Sir Robin in PBEM - 5/18/2011 3:04:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: Deca

"Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more."

"Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man."

"The best defense is a good offense"

Oh, man, he never played with me. My mottos are:

- He who attacks too much does not live to defend another day
- High-mobility soldiers run away much faster than those in forts
- The best defense your opponent's poor offense

And the last one: giant turtles make the best cavalry.

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RE: To Sir Robin or not Sir Robin in PBEM - 5/18/2011 7:53:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: HexHead
"Well," he said, "in a sense, anyone can attack. To retreat in good order and maintain your unit integrity - that's the mark of a good outfit."
Never forgotten that.

...actually, I like that too.

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ORIGINAL: fbs
And the last one: giant turtles make the best cavalry.

This conjures images of many lines of a fat round hard-shelled turtles bristling with heavy lances "charging", at their pace, forward.

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RE: To Sir Robin or not Sir Robin in PBEM - 5/18/2011 7:55:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Deca

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ORIGINAL: HexHead
"Well," he said, "in a sense, anyone can attack. To retreat in good order and maintain your unit integrity - that's the mark of a good outfit."
Never forgotten that.

...actually, I like that too.

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ORIGINAL: fbs
And the last one: giant turtles make the best cavalry.

This conjures images of many lines of a fat round hard-shelled turtles bristling with heavy lances "charging", at their pace, forward.