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RE: June Swoon - 11/20/2011 10:32:05 AM

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If still in Canada, I would send a group or two of Hurricanes to Tarawa. I like to set up a high/low CAP with Hurricanes at 31k and P-40s at 15k. If not the Hurricane, the P-39s with their cannon may not hold up well vs Zero, but enough will survive to take on his Vals and Kates to make using KB expensive.

If you haven't lost Dutch subs, O19 and O20, are the best sub minelayers to use to mine Tarawa.

Transports: I divide up most of the Transmarine Class xAKs into 2 CS convoys to bring supplies from San Fran to Pearl and use 3 to 4 short legged escorts (maybe 1 DD with them that has radar). Each will bring about 100k in supply there. I use any of the xAKs that have a liquid capacity to move fuel in addition to TKs and AOs.

xAK C3-E Cargo Class...Spd 17...Endurance 15,600...6150 Capacity...0/5700/400
xAK Euro L Class...Spd 17...Endurance 14,000...8130 Capacity...0/7580/550 (most start in IO but I move to USA)
xAK Euro K Class...Spd 14...Endurance...17,900...5800 Capacity...0/5600/200 (move from IO to USA)

I bring this up as I see how little fuel and supply you have at Pearl at this point in game. I would form two different type of fuel carrying Transport TF. Those TK/AK that have speed of 16 or 17 and then the slow group of 12 to 14 spd.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/20/2011 1:44:02 PM

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Thanks NY59Giants. I think I focused too much on getting enough ships together and covoy and slowly got behind on moving stuff to PH.

I have one more big problem at Tarawa .. I thiought the submarines would be more discouraging to the BB bombardments and they have not. So BB's alone shut down the base and the bombing attrites supply.

My updates might be a little more sparce for a couple of days while RF takes to toll on gaming bt I will documented how I implement these suggestions.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/24/2011 8:49:51 PM

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Update:

It has been 5 days since I have updated this thread. Just to say RF has played Havoc with my wargaming life ..

Clearly I need to execute something like what Nemo suggested. Load up mostly fighters on CV's and have them screen a reinforcement of Tarawa and surronunding Islands. I need a BF & some flak on Tarawa and a BF/Const unit within 2 hexes. The IJ will do their best to prevent this from happening.

One constraint is that while the Lady Lex and sister ship are upgrading thier Fighter groups still lack Wildcat F-4F-4's. The build is 1.5 per day about 45 per month. I need 65 upgraded Wildcats fighters to fill out all the upgrades. At least 40 to fill out the vet' groups. That is one more month at least.

The CV upgrades have only 18 more days left. It might behoove me to go ahead and update the BigE and friends while the squadrons fill out. I will have to think about this.

Without waiting I can field 140 Wildcat's on 6 CV's and a CVE. Along with the DB's of course but the main concern is getting as much CAP as possible in the air to cover an Amphib landing on my Islands ...The reinforcing TF's will be escorted by upgraded pre-war BB's as torp sponges facing at least 18 Nells and 18 Betty's .. given what ever our boys shoot down ..

This looks like the plan for now .. more after the holidays ... Until then I get beaten up regularly ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/25/2011 6:04:37 PM

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********************************************* 12 JUN 1942 *****************************
The day starts with another lost Tanker ... I wonder what the critical number of losses are where we are impacted?

Submarine attack near Kandavu Island at 130,163

Japanese Ships
SS RO-34

Allied Ships
TK Gulfdawn, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

TK Gulfdawn is sighted by SS RO-34
SS RO-34 attacking on the surface

Our submarines attacks get teh IJN excited but no real action ..

ASW attack near Namorik at 130,120

Japanese Ships
DD Isokaze
BB Kirishima
BB Haruna
CA Haguro
CL Kitakami
CL Yura
DD Amatsukaze
DD Wakaba
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze

Allied Ships
SS Tambor

SS Tambor launches 4 torpedoes at DD Isokaze

SW attack near Taihoku at 87,62

Japanese Ships
DD Tsuta

Allied Ships
SS Grouper

SS Grouper launches 2 torpedoes at DD Tsuta

We put a shell hit into a AK ..

Submarine attack near Ominato at 120,54

Japanese Ships
xAK Uga Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
SS Permit

xAK Uga Maru is sighted by SS Permit
SS Permit attacking xAK Uga Maru on the surface

A Total of 38 Lilly's hit Akyab with no damage .. except for 9 Lilly's .. maybe 2 operations losses total?

Otherwise a quiet turn for the good guys ...

We are going to have to push the Tk's to Sydney further south clearly .. and some DD's need to patrol along with escort ...Suva has DD's and PA's to conduct ASW sweeps ..and they need to get to work!

In Oz we keep our bombers flying attacking kathrine:

orning Air attack on Katherine , at 76,128

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 16

Then we keep the pressure on the LYB's in Daily Waters ...

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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RE: June Swoon - 11/26/2011 4:07:21 PM

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************************************ 13 JUN 1942 *********************************************

A better turn for the Allies and certainly a lot more intellegence for IO & Oz operations.

The night comes and the Sally's arrive ..

Night Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 4

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Night Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 5

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged

No Allied losses

Then when the morning breaks:

Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 39

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 10 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

There are plenty of damaged aircraft on the ground to make this a profitable enterprise for the IJNAF. Huge mistake was not to develop Cox B .. first and then Akyab and this will cost the Allies dearly in both time and aircraft the same mistake was made at Tarawa and this will cost some naval assests along with the airplanes

The Battle over Cox's Bazar traded 6 Betty's and 2 Nell's for 2 xAKL's

Morning Air attack on TF, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 13

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Duijmar van Twist

The adfternoon fares not so welll ...

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 18

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Duijmar van Twist, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Boelongan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Ok Three days ago the AMC Kiyosumi Maru sunk two tankers. Another friend has shown up and was properly invited for a swim:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Cochin at 26,41, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AMC Kinryu Maru, Shell hits 29, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Arrow
DD Foxhound
DD Inconstant

So at least 1 AMC is out there hunting ..

In the Gilbert's we sink 2 xAKL's

Submarine attack near Nauru Island at 124,126

Japanese Ships
xAKL Tenposan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Growler

Sub attack near Nauru Island at 124,126

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kaito Maru, Shell hits 36, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Growler

But in the Home Island the Sargo misses ..

Submarine attack near Torishima at 106,67

Japanese Ships
xAK Ehime Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sargo

We find out that the IJA has committed the 4th/C Division to take PM.

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

More intelligence .. The IJAAF is moving more air assets to Northern Oz ..

8th JAAF AF Bn is loaded on xAK Kokuryu Maru moving to Darwin.

I suspect this is to support a ground bombing campaign from Darwin. It will be very difficult to get 2 times the supply to Tennet Creek to extend CAP.

By next month we should have 3 bases in range of Darwin built up to Level 6. This means sending multiple raids to supress the airfield first and then the port. That will have the effect of cutting supply toward Daily Waters. It will at least give our forces something to do while we wait for the US industrial complex to do its thing ...

I do find it encouraging that given FOW .. the top IJ aircraft types lost are not fighters [although Zero's lead the list] but bombers. Lilly's; Sally's; Nell's, and Betty's about 200 of each type over the course of 6 months. I cannot envision the IJ industrial base producing enough engines to keep up with losses. At this rate very soon the only hammer will be the KB. This is where my mistakes in building bases has really helped the IJ player. Because reverse building up Cox B first and then Akyab and this situation is fully exploited. Lesson Learned ...

In other news .. I am building 2 AUS '42 Infantry sections per turn. Given buildouts ...That will rebuild the 22nd and 27th Brdges in about 1/2 a year 1944 will be made more interesting by an extra AUS division

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RE: June Swoon - 11/26/2011 5:09:08 PM

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Early in the war, regardless of what side I'm playing, after my carriers, TK/AOs get a least one or more good escorts per TF (usually a DD with early war upgrades). They are just too valuable to let them die too quickly. Your Canadian KVs are good for this as they have decent range. I may even use my DM and DMS at this point unless they have a specific mission in mind.

I was allowing the 8th Aussie Div to completely rebuild just so I could save PPs.

The positioning of your few AA Bde are important. You get one at Columbo and then a few come in at Aukland. If allow to fill out they can make raids by Japanese planes costly. I had over 120 heavy AA guns at Ledo protecting my transports into China. They can come for them, but the price was steep.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/26/2011 6:04:22 PM

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Early in the war, regardless of what side I'm playing, after my carriers, TK/AOs get a least one or more good escorts per TF (usually a DD with early war upgrades). They are just too valuable to let them die too quickly. Your Canadian KVs are good for this as they have decent range. I may even use my DM and DMS at this point unless they have a specific mission in mind.

I was allowing the 8th Aussie Div to completely rebuild just so I could save PPs.

The positioning of your few AA Bde are important. You get one at Columbo and then a few come in at Aukland. If allow to fill out they can make raids by Japanese planes costly. I had over 120 heavy AA guns at Ledo protecting my transports into China. They can come for them, but the price was steep.

Beleive it or not the TK loss near Suva was with KV escorts .. they just let the submarine come in and torp ...

I am using the DM's to escort the AP/AK runs from SF->PH. Despite the promise to use the "Code of Bushido" for IJN submarines the IJ is desperate right now and is exclusivly looking for merchant intercepts ..

But you are right .. I need to comitt my better DD's to escorting my Tanker runs toward Sydney ..

I have moved the heavy AA units at Colombo to Chittagong ...I need to move them to Akyab and Cox's B is up and running with Fighters this is going to attact the attention of the Sally's and Nells hitting Akyab right now ..

I need to look at the AA units at Aukland ... I have missed these .. 2 US AA units are going to go to Tennant Creek for the anticiapted air war there ..

One thing I did not grasp is that despite the numbers of bombers lost .. the IJ industrial complex can replace airframes even in scenario #1 at a great rate. 200 Nells a month is very doable to keep the airframe pools pretty well filled. I felt pretty good smacking 1200 bombers in 6 months would be meaningful, but in reality this makes hardly a dent.

Even the lost pilots considered the Betty and Nells are quite efficent at extending Naval power anyway they want to ..

Ok ... some things to think about!

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RE: June Swoon - 11/26/2011 6:23:38 PM

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You want at least one modernized DD in your TK/AO TFs so somebody has surface radar.

If the TF that lost a TK near Suva had an escort with radar, you may have gotten a shot off first. Those old Detroit style CLs can go into large transport TFs to add ASW search and in case you run into any AMC surface raiders.

Those 18 plane Kingfisher groups should go around your main base hubs across the Pacific as ASW. I had them at Christmas, Vava'u, and Aukland. You should get your Sub Chasers soon and they would go here to form hunter/killer groups.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/26/2011 6:39:40 PM

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Excellent advice ny59giants! I will take this turn to make some adjustments ..

One other thing I am looking at is unleashing an offense into Burma set for December 42. Looking at the disposition intellgence I sense the Imperial Guards are the only force with some real punch left. Otherwise the rest of the IJA in Burma is in occupation mode not set up to resist an offense. I have bought some Indian forces destroyed in the intial invasion and according to our estimates we can build out a division by December. That would give us 2 complete Corps to attack with. [No house rules on restricted units cross borders .. and besides the bushido thing about subamarines is out the window

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This would mean planning to strike south of Mandalay mixing it up and then another Corps hitting Mandalay directly.

I will document the steps taken as this thread matures ..

Right now I have the operational problems I have created to deal with right now .. get bases in the Gilberts and Cox's Bazzar ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/26/2011 8:26:21 PM

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Logistics...Logistics...Logistics

You may be trying to do too much with limited logistical support. To keep your forces moving forward in India/Burma you will need your C-47 transports. You have been doing things in central Australia that require transports to keep your forward motion. IMO, you don't have enough lift capacity to do both. If your opponent comes at you strong with his Tojos, you're in trouble.

Those fighters can kick your butt where ever they show up in numbers. I've been on both sides of them, they are that good.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/26/2011 8:55:43 PM

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You should be getting groups of (4 or 6 LCUs) SeaBees (SB) anytime now. I would send a group by "Strat Mode" to Eastern USA base and then to Cape Town. They will disappear for about 45 days and then show up at Cape Town as reinforcements. Then, just a short trip to India and you can use PPs if needed then. I would build up India/Burma border bases with about 10 to 12 SB over the rest of '42. Every third or fourth group goes to India via Cape Town.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/27/2011 2:00:43 PM

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Three Seabee Groups are staged on ships ready to land in the Gilberts but one is in San Diego now. I will send that one to Cape Town.

ny59giants brings out an excellent point as far as logistics. One single thread connects Burma and Oz in my obervations. The lack of roads and internal LOC to support offensive operations. The IJ holds all the cards until enough naval forces can muster and take critical supply points. Its a naval/air focused game with a rudementary ground model -- so I might expect that. The Allies have only air to send supply and no "Red Ball Express" in Oz is possible given the ahistotrical possibilites.

The constraint on supply is quite dramatic. China is a great example. Have 5-1 AV advantage but little supply and the Chineese forces crack like little eggshells. Send starving AUS divisions against well supplied IJA forces and the same will occur, except they will not magically come back like the Chineese ..

Have a horrible commander leading on your get Singapore ..

With that constraint, my sophomoric view is it takes about 1500 supplies per month to keep a division fed and clothed. That does not count moving or combat. Right now I have 30 Transports working overtime to supply a Division plus 5 armored Bn's moving toward Tennant Creek, and 8 BF's running for their very lives back to Alice Springs:

12 x R3D-2 transporting supplies to Tennant Creek
2 x DC-2 transporting supplies to Tennant Creek
11 x C-47 Skytrain transporting supplies to Tennant Creek
5 x C-33 transporting supplies to Tennant Creek

So anymore forces down that road willl set up the Goering Stalingrad Situation. A force so large it cannot be supplied by air.

In Burma:

12 x C-47 Skytrain transporting supplies to Paoshan
3 x DC-2 transporting supplies to Paoshan
6 x DC-2 transporting supplies to Paoshan
2 x DC-3 transporting supplies to Paoshan
4 x SB-III transporting supplies to Paoshan
3 x DC-2 transporting supplies to Paoshan

About the same situation supporting 2 Chineese Corps sitting across Lashio

So ny59Giants is pointing out that all the C-47's are required in one theater to get around the lack of LOC and a total inability to match the IJN to supply forces by sea.

As far as reinforcements in my game given the 60 day variation in reinforcements, the Skytrains arrive over a period from September through December, and most in December 1942 and January 1943. 10 groups total 130 aircraft. That will move enough supplies per day to feed 2 divisions in active contact. Needless to say ny59giants is saying the Allies have to pick a front. In this case central Oz or Burma .. but there is not enough aircraft in Inventory to do both. That does not include for example needing aircraft to conduct airborne operations or example.

One other constraint .. there is only one base in range in the Land of Oz ...Alice Springs. That can only supply Tennant Creek. Right now I am deciding between flying B-17's and the Transports ... The ability to stage multiple bases does not exist unless one takes Port Hedland as an example, and that plays into the superior IJN forces until 1944 ...Ironically With Oz invaded key British forces are withdrawing ....

However, Burma does offer multiple bases to fly both supply and offensive operations. They have to be devloped in 3's quickly or the IJAAF/IJNAF simply supresses them, and ny59giants is making the point that the Tojo's would make quite an impression on operations if that was the IJ's decision.

Although I am in quite a pickle in short term operations my decisions now will affect the war for a very long time. I really have to think about a much longer Strategic consequince of logistics. More as this develops ...

This turn is about my short term problems of Akyab. Cox's Bazzar on one front and the Gilberts on the other front. My plans around Burma and Oz are to simply engage the IJ forces and get him to react. Mix it up a bit .... As I have stated since Jan 1942 .. it is my plan to take Formosa by January 1945. I am simply waiting for the United States industrial complex to do its thing .. in the meantime the IJ is being quite uncooperative in this adventure ...

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RE: June Swoon - 11/27/2011 3:20:58 PM

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We made some operational decisions this turn .. we are moving more Aviation support to Townsville and have decided to ground bomb PM, while using Alice Springs to support the air supply into Tennant Creek.

I have noted this turn that another division is moving toward PM. He feels 150 AV is not going to do the trick ..

As per ny59Giants .. I have noted the huge AA unit at Auckland. We started a cargo TF now in Sydney toward Aukland and to get this unit into Oz. This should discourage the Sally's from ground bombing my divisions in Oz ...

A lot of merchants are in the pen getting major AA upgrades .. this puts a little damper on logistics at the moment ... but this will be over very soon.

More later ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/27/2011 4:35:35 PM

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With that constraint, my sophomoric view is it takes about 1500 supplies per month to keep a division fed and clothed. That does not count moving or combat. Right now I have 30 Transports working overtime to supply a Division plus 5 armored Bn's moving toward Tennant Creek, and 8 BF's running for their very lives back to Alice Springs:

12 x R3D-2 transporting supplies to Tennant Creek
2 x DC-2 transporting supplies to Tennant Creek
11 x C-47 Skytrain transporting supplies to Tennant Creek
5 x C-33 transporting supplies to Tennant Creek

So anymore forces down that road willl set up the Goering Stalingrad Situation. A force so large it cannot be supplied by air.

One other constraint .. there is only one base in range in the Land of Oz ...Alice Springs. That can only supply Tennant Creek. Right now I am deciding between flying B-17's and the Transports ... The ability to stage multiple bases does not exist unless one takes Port Hedland as an example, and that plays into the superior IJN forces until 1944 ...Ironically With Oz invaded key British forces are withdrawing ....

A couple of points on Northern Territory supply issues. I was curious about these as the 'Northern Territory Standoff' seems common to a lot of games, including my own. My belief coming into it was that supply could move from Alice Springs as far as Katherine, but not further than that. On December 7th 1941, the bases are as follows:

Darwin: Port 3, AF 3, Fort 1: 7 pts*300 for a supply draw of 2100 per tick.
Fenton: No development, anomalous theoretical draw of 1000 per tick (I didn't test Fenton initially)
Katherine: AF 1: 1pts*300, 300/tick
Daly Waters: AF 1: 1pts*100, 100/tick
Tennant Creek: AF1: 1pts*100, 100/tick

Test scenario was as follows:

- Map confined to bases between Darwin and Alice Springs inclusive.
- All bases set to draw maximum supply and stockpile except Alice Springs
- No LCUs anywhere except Alice Springs
- Alice Springs granted 5000t/day of supply.

Results:

Tennant Creek receives 74/100 per tick; 26% wastage. 4 ticks/week.
Daly Waters receives 41/100 per tick; 59% wastage. 2 ticks/week.
Katherine receives 89/300 per tick; 70% wastage. 2 ticks/week.
[I went and checked Fenton later and it received 250/1000 per tick; 75% wastage, 2 ticks/week.]
Darwin receives 828/2100 per tick; 60% wastage. 2 ticks/week.

Not sure why waste is lower at Darwin. Perhaps the port has something to do with it.

Darwin received 5796 supplies over 26 days, or 223t/day
Katherine received 623 supplies over 26 days, or 24t/day
Daly Waters received 287 supplies over 26 days, or 11t/day
Tennant Creek received 1036 supplies over 26 days, or 40t/day

You could (over a several-day period) move more supply forward to Darwin by allowing supply to move from the other bases; probably more efficient to just build up Darwin, on a movement/input basis, though obviously that's not often an option.

If we assume all bases are moderately built up we should be able to put some theoretical numbers together:

Darwin can "easily" reach Port 3, AF 7, Fort 4, giving it 14*300=4200/tick
Fenton can "easily" reach AF 7, Fort 4, giving it 11*300=3300/tick
Katherine can "easily" reach AF 7, Fort 4, giving it 10*300=3300/tick
Daly Waters can "easily" reach AF 6, Fort 4, giving it 1000/tick
Tennant Creek can "easily" reach AF 6, Fort 4, giving it 1000/tick

In that situation I would expect to see:

~ 400t/day at Tennant Creek
~ 110t/day at Daly Waters
~ 300t/day at Katherine
~ 235t/day at Fenton
~ 450t/day at Darwin

All from Alice Springs.

I'm going to run another test using all of the Australian continent with the usual supply draw situation (ie max to Alice, rather than having local production) to see whether that changes anything. Still - on the face of it you can get plenty of stuff moving by land.

Incidentally, fuel doesn't appear to be subject to these restrictions (or not to the same degree, at least) as Darwin accumulated 56000t of fuel in this period.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/27/2011 4:43:45 PM

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This is a very interesting post ..what version of AE are you using?

I do know one thing .. there is a HUGE difference between stock and recent beta versions. Stock does not move any supplies in Oz forcing the Allies to move everything by cargo and playing in the IJ hands. Once I upgraded I could land oil in Perth and have it find its way to Melborne ..

So the build up of Tennant Creek will be a key first step in our adventure. Right now airsupply From Alice Springs is keeping enough going to keep the bulldozers working overtime ..A Division is also there now to be supplied ...

This is something to chew on for sure!

There is one more interesting thing to look at .. how well the IJA can move supplies from Darwin to Kathrine. Right now 300 AV sits at kathrine and 150 AV at Daily Waters ..I wonder how tis is working out ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/27/2011 5:03:13 PM

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This is a very interesting post ..what version of AE are you using?

I do know one thing .. there is a HUGE difference between stock and recent beta versions. Stock does not move any supplies in Oz forcing the Allies to move everything by cargo and playing in the IJ hands. Once I upgraded I could land oil in Perth and have it find its way to Melborne ..

So the build up of Tennant Creek will be a key first step in our adventure. Right now airsupply From Alice Springs is keeping enough going to keep the bulldozers working overtime ..A Division is also there now to be supplied ...

This is something to chew on for sure!

Beta q6. In practice I find that while the bases are building it's better to minimize the number of non-engineering devices present as you want as much supply as possible used for construction rather than unit upkeep. Also consider the RAAF - you probably have at least 50 Wirraways not in units at this point, which can fly 1t/day/aircraft - normally I wouldn't advocate using bombers except in dire emergencies, but they're not good for much else, so if any of the RAAF is unemployed...

e: I would expect supply flow from Darwin to Katherine to be pretty good, maybe 1000t/week/[AF+Fort levels]. Daly Waters, probably similar to Alice Springs-Tennant Creek, slightly higher flow due to less wastage.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/27/2011 7:51:22 PM

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*************************************** 14 JUNE 1942 *********************

The night begins with duds ..

Submarine attack near Sapporo at 118,49

Japanese Ships
xAK Kiyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Saury

xAK Kiyo Maru is sighted by SS Saury
SS Saury launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kiyo Maru

Sub attack near Tokara Retto at 99,63

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-16

Allied Ships
SS Flying Fish

SS Flying Fish launches 2 torpedoes at SC CHa-16

Still that has to make the IJ cover these convoys . I cannot see the IJ lettting things reduce to P(.20).

DARWIN:

We probe his defenses .. and find 15 Oscars .. we will need a lot more bombers to make this effective.

Morning Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1

TARAWA:

I forget about my planes there recovering and we send up some boys to meet the oncoming zeros ..

Afternoon Air attack on Tarawa , at 136,128

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

at Malkin he is building an airfield .. we keep hitting his port ..

Afternoon Air attack on Makin , at 136,125

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 4
B-26B Marauder x 4

No Allied losses

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Port Moesby ..

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Much work left to do this turn ...

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RE: June Swoon - 11/28/2011 1:24:37 AM

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I thought it would be a good time to post the condition of the reserve pool. We have the ability now to relase into the reserve some 60 level rookies and replace them with some 70 level experienced pilots. That means the boy's in Tabetuea will get some hotshot pilots along with new P-40's to deal with IJNAF/IJAAF Zero's ..

In two weeks we have to land a BF's on Tarawa and Albemama .. only supported by 4 CV's and a CVE stacked with fighters ..we will put 2 BB's in each of the AMPHIB Tf's to suck up IJN 18" torps ... our next moves are all about setting this battle up .. What I would love to see is storms and the Betty's and Nells arrive all disorganized eaten alive ...

24 Nells and 24 Betty's vs. 200 Wildcats and whatever P40's show up ..

Ok next turn we start stacking the deck with our hole cards ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 2:08:57 AM

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******************************************************* 15 JUN 1942 ***********************

The IJ are showing the domination for sure over the skies of Akyab. My poor planning has a lot to do with this to .. before building up Akyab it was key to build up Cox's Bazzar .. Lesson learned ..

Afternoon Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 17 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 5 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

We test our bombing skills on Makin .. just in case he is thinking of stationing fighters there ..

Morning Air attack on Makin , at 136,125

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 7
B-26B Marauder x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 12

Escorted by KV's the Subs off the coast of Sydney find a prey ..

Submarine attack near Newcastle at 93,167

Japanese Ships
SS I-171

Allied Ships
xAK Am. Packer, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Am. Packer is sighted by SS I-171
SS I-171 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Am. Packer

And of course our torps are duds ..

Sub attack near Utsonomiya at 120,70

Japanese Ships
xAK Kenzan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sargo

xAK Kenzan Maru is sighted by SS Sargo
SS Sargo launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kenzan Maru

Submarine attack near Utsonomiya at 120,70

Japanese Ships
xAK Kenzan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sargo

xAK Kenzan Maru is sighted by SS Sargo
SS Sargo launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kenzan Maru

That is not a double post .. and both torps salvos his no explosion .. kaboom?!? where is the kaboom?

Otherwise quiet turn ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 5:44:51 PM

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*************************** 16 JUN 1942 ***********************************************

The night begins with a new target .. now Cox's Bazzar is experincing the IJ wrath:

Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

No airfield damage and 2 Sally's are damaged (nothing in the ops losses report although ..)

Akyab gets it in the morning ..

Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 8 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 12

Akyab is simply a pin cushion right now .. I am simply surprised at 42 fighter escorts .. the two units left here will probably not leave alive and the parent units are far far away waiting for the base build ups ....

Sort of gamey .. but the AVG's are due to withdraw .. and it is time to attrite some of the air forces training on my boys in Wenchow .. no airsupport or engineers here so any damaged planes are really lost .and when the group is fully damaged I will withdraw the forces ..My biggest concern for not doing this earlier was for the IJN to simply bombard and wipe out the AVG early on a coast hex .... now they get one wack at this training unit .. maybe two? ^ aircraft is really nothing compared to the future .. but it is nice to have one nice day ..

Morning Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 5
D3A1 Val x 7
Ki-27b Nate x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1

So a very small dent in the IJNAF but stinging none the less .. when this group withdrawls I will supply TRACON with 2 more aces ..

1LT Hastey, R. of AVG/2nd Sqn attains ace status!!

CPT Hill, D.L. of AVG/2nd Sqn attains ace status!!

Over the skies of Tarawa we have a very small air battle ..

Afternoon Air attack on Tarawa , at 136,128

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

I suspect this will draw in the bomber raids again to supress this base ...In the meantime the forces at Tarawa are holding their own ..60 & 70 experince against whatever the land based IJNAF is putting up ..

I usually trim off the details but our bombing of the forces at PM is getting slightly better .. from nothing but bangs to killling 1% of the force each day ..I think this units reinforcements has about 10 - 20 days left to manage the jungle and in the meantime the orignal unit will be pounded into disruption. No supply at PM so it will not take much to capture ...

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 15000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet *
Ground Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet *
Ground Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 19

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

The Thesher fires a dud ..

Submarine attack near Pagan at 111,90

Japanese Ships
xAK Rakuto Maru

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

xAK Rakuto Maru is sighted by SS Thresher
SS Thresher launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Rakuto Maru

I have a very sneaking feeling the KB is headed off the coast of Perth to intercept CT shipping .. it has been way too quiet ...but at least today was a good day ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 6:01:03 PM

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kaboom?!? where is the kaboom?

Somebody channeling their favorite Looney Tune character like Marvin the Martian??

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Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 8 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 12

Are you playing Scen 1 or 2, I can't find it in the opening page? Also, with PDU on or off?

It's strange to see Lily in this kind of roll at this date. They should be sub hunting or in training squads by this time.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 6:34:01 PM

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Are you playing Scen 1 or 2, I can't find it in the opening page? Also, with PDU on or off?

It's strange to see Lily in this kind of roll at this date. They should be sub hunting or in training squads by this time.

Scenario #1; PDU = off; Realistic R&D = ON.

The Lilly's are very very busy these days. I am new to this game so I just deal with what is

Would the high number of bomber losses early in the game have something to do with this?

I wlll edit the first posting to make sure it is there to .. thanks for the heads up ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 6:39:02 PM

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Ah PDU OFF. That partly explains your opponent's leisurely moves.

On balance, PDU OFF, compared to having it ON, disadvantages Japan much more than it does the Allied side.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 6:50:07 PM

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Ah PDU OFF. That partly explains your opponent's leisurely moves.

On balance, PDU OFF, compared to having it ON, disadvantages Japan much more than it does the Allied side.

Alfred

Ahhhh!!! I am just begining to grasp this situation ... but I am biding my time in the meantime

BTW) To obvert ... the Lilly's are training ... its just that they are training by bombing Akyab ..

So far the operational losses as reported by FOW have not been too bad and his bombing accuracy is increasing by my observations of the combat reports. I would assume since PDU is OFF that the Lilly's have no further upgrades and thus it is far better to keep them working than training up new bomber pilots ..

I also suspect that more Betty's and Nells will be interdicting the IO soon. Cox's Bazzar cannot be built up fast enough ...and neither can Tabitueua in the Gilberts to start my bombing campaign of the lower Marshall's ..

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 6:59:01 PM

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Ah PDU OFF. That partly explains your opponent's leisurely moves.

On balance, PDU OFF, compared to having it ON, disadvantages Japan much more than it does the Allied side.

Alfred

Ahhhh!!! I am just begining to grasp this situation ... but I am biding my time in the meantime

BTW) To obvert ... the Lilly's are training ... its just that they are training by bombing Akyab .. So far the operational losses as reported by FOW have not been too bad and his bombing accuracy is increasing by my observations of the combat reports. I would assume since PDU is OFF that the Lilly's have no further upgrades and thus it is far better to keep them working than training up new bomber pilots ..

I also suspect that more Betty's and Nells will be interdicting the IO soon. Cox's Bazzar cannot be built up fast enough ...and neither can Tabitueua in the Gilberts to start my bombing campaign of the lower Marshall's ..

They might be 'training' here but flying at 7,000 ft on bombing runs over Allied bases is going to get a lot of pilots killed from flak, so the rise in skill isn't going to matter much. If he just wants to make them better he should come in very high or bomb a base with no AAA in it. With PDU off this means many of the big IJA bombing groups are limited to 1Es or 2E Lily and can't do much outside of China.

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RE: June Swoon - 11/29/2011 7:08:42 PM

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Ah PDU OFF. That partly explains your opponent's leisurely moves.

On balance, PDU OFF, compared to having it ON, disadvantages Japan much more than it does the Allied side.

Alfred

Ahhhh!!! I am just begining to grasp this situation ... but I am biding my time in the meantime

BTW) To obvert ... the Lilly's are training ... its just that they are training by bombing Akyab .. So far the operational losses as reported by FOW have not been too bad and his bombing accuracy is increasing by my observations of the combat reports. I would assume since PDU is OFF that the Lilly's have no further upgrades and thus it is far better to keep them working than training up new bomber pilots ..

I also suspect that more Betty's and Nells will be interdicting the IO soon. Cox's Bazzar cannot be built up fast enough ...and neither can Tabitueua in the Gilberts to start my bombing campaign of the lower Marshall's ..

They might be 'training' here but flying at 7,000 ft on bombing runs over Allied bases is going to get a lot of pilots killed from flak, so the rise in skill isn't going to matter much. If he just wants to make them better he should come in very high or bomb a base with no AAA in it. With PDU off this means many of the big IJA bombing groups are limited to 1Es or 2E Lily and can't do much outside of China.

I just think he desperatly wants to keep Akyab closed.

B-17E's can reach his most vulnerable insides in Burma. Turn these bombers loose at night and watch the ground losses mount .. The Betty's and Nells' are waiting like spiders for my CVTF's in the Marshalls with 2 groups here in Burma ... We continue to attrite while my boys in Cox's Bazzar work feaverishly to build a level 1 base and then ....level 2 where LRCAP starts working .. time .. it takes time ..

The other place he is bombing is Northern Oz .. but that has been quiet the last 4 turns ...

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RE: June Swoon - 12/1/2011 12:24:20 AM

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*************************************** 17 JUN 1942 ************************************

The Sally's come at night .. I posted the complete battle because it is of some note that he is risking 5,000 feet now ..

Night Air attack on Cox's Bazar , at 54,43

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Soon this will not be such a good move ..

The morning opens with an attack on Magwe .. I do not know if these refineries were working but they are not now ...

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Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 62

No Allied losses

Refinery hits 14

Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12

No Allied losses

Refinery hits 1

Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 16

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged

Refinery hits 16

I am not sure what 31 hits will do .. but it should curtail production .. I have a new target in mind ..

The Lilly's come calling to Akyab ...

Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 15
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 43

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 9 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10

This battle started 4 days ago with 48 Lilly's attacking .. flak alone has reduced this to 43 this turn and now 42 .. wait until Cox's Bazzar is up and runing ..

We hit the boys at PM and now long range zeros coma a calling ..

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
B-26 Marauder x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Morning Air attack on 4th/C Division, at 98,130 (Port Moresby)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

We will have to stop this operation until we get all the B-17's back on line .. then 50 will come calling ..

No attack today at Wenchow .. I am thinking yesterdays drubbing was discouraging ...

The other news .. I have strong evidence the Yamato is sailing for the Marshalls ...

More later ...

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RE: June Swoon - 12/1/2011 2:20:04 AM

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Have you freed up all the ENG units in India? Theres also several CD units floating around India.

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RE: June Swoon - 12/1/2011 3:05:29 AM

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Have you freed up all the ENG units in India?� Theres also several CD units floating around India.

I think so Docup .. I am building up 5 bases right now .. in fact in the next comabt turn you will see some of these in action .. just not Cox's Bazzar yet ..

Also I am rebuilding units that were destroyed in the Maylay Campaign. The 111th BF just took 4 aviation support and 4 vehicles ..

I thought I would post a quick picture of whats happining in the Marshalls. The KB and now a SAG TF [led by the Yammato?] is about to attack Tarawa again .. . I was thinking maybe someday he would attack Midway but I think the invasion days are over .. he lost so many ships trying to attack Darwin. Anyway I know where the KB is .. and my Dutch Sub commander is borking out on a shot at 1 out of almost 30 ships in this hex ..