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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 5:42:31 PM   
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Picture taken at end of Allied impulse #4, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 5:45:30 PM   
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Picture taken at end of Allied impulse #4, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 7:26:20 PM   
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Picture taken at start of Axis impulse #5, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 8:21:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		In spite of the rain, I'm making a bid for Kursk this impulse. I didn't make any Ground Strikes, and I don't expect the weather to get any better. This started as a 63:13 attack, but it's one of those strange situations where 2 Factors of defensive Ground Support can make a big difference. That's because I lose an Odds Column to the rain. Realizing this, I added my own Ground Support, but even after adding a total of 5 Factors of my own, this still gets shifted down into 3:1 territory, though with about a 50/50 chance at 4:1. The difference between a 3:1 Assault and a 4:1 Assault is huge, really, especially if there are bonuses, and I'm pretty sure this is going to be a +2 attack.



Picture taken at Ground Support of Axis impulse #5, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 8:24:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		But I'm mistaken about that +2. Now I have to figure out why.
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Edit: And here's the 'why' of it: I wasn't paying enough attention to the Blitz Bonus optional rule explanation. I tell you, there's just too much to keep track of your first time out. I double-damned myself. I'm attacking a city, and I'm not attacking in Fine weather, both of which are items that prevent me from getting the bonus.

I'll bet you I pay for this mistake. I'll be praying that I win the Fractional Odds roll and manage to Shatter the enemy.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 8:36:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		As soon as I lost the Fractional Odds roll, I thought I was doomed to have another 12 units disorganized. I groaned audibly. But you can probably guess that luck was with me, can't you? The next thing to happen was a roll of '10' on the 3:1 CRT, the only result that leaves my units organized.

Isn't there some saying about fortune favoring fools? Or something like that? (I almost wish I was cheating, since I've had lucky rolls on key attacks 2 impulses in a row -- attacks that I probably shouldn't have even made in the first place!)



Picture taken during Land Combat Resolution of Axis impulse #5, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 8:45:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		After moving into Kursk, it was time to rebase some aircraft. I had all 4 missions available, so I moved 2 fighters into better positions, brought in yet another bomber (my last German LND not near the front), and stacked my ATR with my Paratrooper.



Picture taken during Air Rebas of Axis impulse #5, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 8:55:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here we are, at the end of the impulse, in the Moscow region:



Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #5, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 8:59:31 PM   
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Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #5, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/14/2011 9:03:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Around the Sea of Azov, I had to move the X Infantry Corps out of supply intentionally. If I hadn't, the LXIII Infantry would have been a sitting duck for nearby Soviet forces. I didn't want to just hand Stalino back to the enemy. Because I had to commit so many units to taking Kursk, I didn't squeeze by any defenders here in the south. I think it might just be trench warfare from here on out.



Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #5, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 12:10:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't move my units much unless it is along a railroad. So I didn't move my units much. I moved a unit out of Leningrad.



Picture taken at end of Allied impulse #7, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 12:13:31 AM   
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Picture taken at end of Allied impulse #7, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 1:38:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was going to rail my AA unit from Mannerheim to Rundstedt. I'm really irritated. I knew Orm was likely to move out of Leningrad, but I'm not used to the Motorized movement rates Optional rules, so I miscalculated where to move the IX SS Mechanized Corps to last impulse. I thought it was going to be able to get to Novgorod, if needed, but it comes up 1 hex short. The only way to keep that city now is to get the turn to end now, and then hope to win the initiative one more time to start next turn. So, my AA stays in the area to help retake Novgorod yet again!



Picture taken during Land Movement of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 2:30:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been having such insanely good luck with foolish attacks add low odds that I thought I'd risk a paradrop, so you could see what that looks like. Here's the actual flight and target hex:



Picture taken during Paradrop: Att Fly to Target, of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 2:44:05 AM   
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Picture taken during Paradrop: Att Fly to Target, of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 2:45:12 AM   
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Picture taken during Include Notional Units, of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 2:47:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		And finally, the combat odds for attacks this impulse. I added 1.5 factors of Ground Support to the attack by my paratrooper, and also made an attack on Tula:



Picture taken during Land Combat Resolution of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 2:58:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		As it turned out, luck was again on my side. The 2:1 paradrop rolled a '9', as did the attack on Tula. I think I shouldn't try for high odds. I seem to roll low there, and I seem to roll high whenever I'm doing something I really shouldn't.

Right now I'm having internet connectivity problems, so I'll post a the remainder of the impulse as I am able to, morning at the latest. Here's what those attacks look like after advancing:



Picture taken during Air Rebase of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 3:13:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I rebased 2 fighters and the Rumanian bomber. This shows my preparations to fix my errors near Novgorod.



Picture taken during Air Rebase of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 1:20:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		There wasn't a lot of movement on the front lines. An overrun on the Russian infantry, that had been where you can now see my 5-2 ART, was what allowed me to make the attack on Tula. Bryansk is now completely alone in the Soviet universe, and the new defensive line is at the Don, which will probably be very difficult for me to crack. My lines are getting too long.



Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 1:23:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		This gives you a closer look at the Southern part of the front. I have some stacks available, and a fairly large air contingent, but aside from a little attempt by the LIII Motorized Corps to make room for itself, I'm not advancing at all here. Supply is becoming a problem.



Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 1:26:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nothing changed in the Crimea, so my last post for this impulse is a Zoom 1 view of the detail map. It's really hard to make out any specifics, I know, but I still like being able to see all of Europe on a single screen (Spain and France were cut by me, to trim the file size down a bit).



Picture taken at end of Axis impulse #9, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 5:17:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		With few units that I must move I decide to make a combined impulse. The German convoy in the Black Sea that have been giving sea supply to German units around Crimea has annoyed me a long time now.

So the pride of my fleet sail out from Sevastapol. The rain rain makes their task to find the german ships harder but my cruisers are fast and can cover much of the Black Sea.




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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 5:25:25 PM   
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I think this game looks great! Haven't played it for 15 years (When I got married).

Are you playing this game by netplay or PBEM? Are you both beta testers? And do you come across bugs when you play or is it working good?

Really looking forward to play again with old friends





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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 5:33:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Roolender

Hi

I think this game looks great! Haven't played it for 15 years (When I got married).

Are you playing this game by netplay or PBEM? Are you both beta testers? And do you come across bugs when you play or is it working good?

Really looking forward to play again with old friends



Hi Roolender.

We are playing in Hot-Seat mode and save the game whenever it is time for the opponent to move and then email him the save. We just have had a couple of minor bugs that I think are mentioned somewhere in this thread. We are both beta testers.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 5:36:37 PM   
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Victory!

And that was the last of the German sea supply in the Black sea.



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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 5:44:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the north front the 40th Army captures Novgorod. Much to my suprise I must confess. When I moved the garrison out of Leningrad I made a fast calculation and concluded that the 9th SS Corps would reach Novgorod before me. At last some nice news for me



Picture taken at end of Allied impulse #11, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 5:49:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I move a militia out of Rostov to slow down the motorized corps trying to move behind my lines.



Picture taken at end of Allied impulse #11, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 6:05:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		At least I wasn't the only one to miscalculate the movement of the SS Mech. That comes as a little bit of comfort, I guess.

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RE: A look at Barbarossa. - 8/16/2011 6:23:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The turn ended. 50% chance for it to end. This is this turns losses.

Edit: The game is tied in victory points at this point.


Picture taken at end of turn, Sep/Oct 1941 (Turn 3 of 5)

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