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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/21/2012 6:46:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kharkov43

I just love attacks dos'nt matter if its German or Russian. If succesful you could bust open the South......NO mercy for the dreaded SS!


The problem I face now is that my mechanized corps are quickly losing their CV, and the Axis are able to channel his frontline units into a smaller front, but we keep on pushing

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/21/2012 6:53:52 PM   
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Turn 181

Overall
The Axis fell back all along the front, something that means we were able to attack in fewer places as some fronts are too low on morale. The Axis also left alot of Rumanians and Hungarians as well as German SEC units as speed bumbs. In most cases I simply pushed them back as I lacked armor or mechanized corps in those areas. Nevertheless we end the turn with 17 Axis units surrounded. All in all we managed 39 attacks, scoring 12 held, 20 retreats and 7 routs. The fact that we had 12 held results is shown in the ammount of lost tanks this turn;
Axis : 45.000 troops and 109 AFVs
USSR : 75.000 troops and 451 AFVs

Units
5 TACs are sent to the reserves, and we spend some points on changing units from one HQ to another.
Our forces claim a net growth of 69.000 troops this turn.

Pools
As 165.000 workers report to the manpower pool this turn, it ends at 5.351.
Vehicle pool : 297.807
Armaments pool : 975.543
AFV pools : lowest is the T-34 1944 model at aproxomately 1.100

Liberation
Voroshilovgrad and W.Moscow is liberated this turn.

Operation ARGH I am stuck
I will soon have to rest the mechanized corps of HQ Zhukov to get their CV back up.

Partisans
The Axis chase 9 units away, leaving us with 30 units on the map. We manage 8 sabotague missions, and 13 supply drops this turn.







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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/22/2012 2:49:08 AM   
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Turn 182

Overall
The enemy is still fallin back in most areas. In the north they are doing so at a much higher speed than we are able to use in our pursuit, so no attacks are made north of Moscow. We still manage 40 attacks this turn, while the Axis make 2 attempts to break out in the south. The Axis score 2 held, while we manage 7 held, 25 retreats, 2 routs and 6 surrenders. Losses are given at;
Axis : 153.000 troops and 383 AFVs
USSR : 79.000 troops and 320 AFVs.

Units
Only 1 TAC request vacation this turn. We spend some points on changing HQs for some units. Next turn I guess I will have to either use HQ buildup, or start "wasting" points.
Our ground forces claim a net growth of 98.000 troops this turn.

Pools
As a total of 152.000 workers report to the manpower pool this turn, it ends at 2.626.
Vehicle pool : 293.921
Armaments pool : 991.965

Liberation
Kalinin, Moscow and N.Moscow is liberated this turn. Next turn Stavka will move back "home".

Units destroyed
We bagged alot of units this turn;
1st SS Panzer Division
22nd SS Cavalry Division
197nd, 223rd, 239nth, 389nth and 394th German Infantry Divisions
97th German Jaeger Division
102nd and 103rd German Panzer Brigades
3/201st, 2/203rd, 2/221th, 1/286th, 2/391st German Security Divisions
108th Hungarian Reserve Division
5th Hungarian Infantry Division

Operation ARGH I am stuck
We might have to halt for a turn soon, now I am not too concerned about our CV, but my mechanized and tank corps needs to refuel.

Partisans
The Axis still has available units to chase down 12 of our partisans this turn, leaving us with 29. Our guys then manage 12 sabotague missions, but are let down by our pilots that only fly 4 supply missions.

Bug??
Look at the bottom of the screenie, am I supposed to see those messages?






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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/22/2012 1:15:48 PM   
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nice pocket terje ! :)

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/22/2012 8:24:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: juret

nice pocket terje ! :)


Another 20 of those and the Axis should be in trouble


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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/22/2012 9:32:14 PM   
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Turn 183

Overall
The Axis fall back in some areas, but in the north our advance has been so slow that they have managed to produce level 3 fortifications again. No sweat since the units up there are ill suited for attacking anyway. We continue to push in the south, and this turn we trap 5 Axis divisions. We manage to get most of our mechanized units up to their requirement levels in terms of supply and fuel by aerial drops. This turn we launch 42 attacks, scoring 8 held, 33 retreats and 1 rout.

Units
2 TACs are sent to the reserves this turn. We spend points on reassigning HQs as usual. Stavka moves back into Moscow, atleast THEY are where they were at the start.
Our ground units report a net growt of 66.000 troops this turn.

Pools
With 154.000 workers reporting to the manpower pool, it ends at 3.131.
Armaments pool : 986.693, I guess it is safe to say I will have enough weapons for this war.
Vehicle pool : 288.192. It frops about 5.000 per turn, meaning at this pace I will run out in 57 turns, which means I am good.

Operation ARGH I am stuck
I have now stopped bombing the enemy on the ground with my level bombers, they are now on supply duty.

Partisans
The Axis "chase" away 14 uniits ("chase" because some of them they retreated into..), leaving us with 28 on the board. Our guys perform 15 acts of sabotague, and are rewarded with 7 supply drops.







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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/22/2012 11:09:35 PM   
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I don't think he's breaking that pocket.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/24/2012 1:36:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: paullus99

I don't think he's breaking that pocket.



You were right


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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/24/2012 1:45:06 AM   
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Turn 184

Overall
The Axis make only limited retreats this turn, once more sacrificing the units of their minors as speedbumbs. I just knock them back in most places as I do not have the ability to surround them all. Once more our level bombers are used to keep supplies flowing to the units furthest into enemy ZOCs. We make a total of 54 (!!) attacks this turn, scoring 5 held, 39 retreats, 9 rout and 1 surrender (although it can be argued that 1 of the retreats should be counted as a surrender, as 2 units in that stack surrendered and 1 retreated). Losses are given as;
Axis : 98.000 troops and 183 AFVs
USSR : 100.000 troops and 290 AFVs.

Units
2 TACs are sent to the reserves this turn. We then spend a total of 239 points on HQ buildups, reassigning units, and creating/distributing SUs.
Our forces claim a growth of 79.000 troops.

Pools
176.000 workers arrive at the manpower pool this turn, ending it at 2.992.
Vehicle pool : 286.233
Armaments pool : 980.171.
I also note that my IS-2 pool is high (1300 unused), so how many heavy tank regiments do people usually make?

Units destroyed
The 3rd SS Panzer Division, 18th SS Panzer Grenadier Division, 4th SS Grenadier Division, Frontier Rumanian Infantry Division and the 1st Rumanian Mountain Division are all destroyed this turn.

Operation ARGH I am stuck
The offensive is starting to show some real effect, so far it has destroyed alot of units, and now the remaining Axis units in the south are mostly 1 CV units.

Partisans
11 units are forced to retreat this turn, leaving us with 26. We manage 16 acts of sabotague, while our pilots make 9 supply drops.







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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/24/2012 1:48:40 AM   
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Any chance of staging a true breakout - blow a hole in his lines & send the mechanized corps for the hills?

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/24/2012 2:23:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: paullus99

Any chance of staging a true breakout - blow a hole in his lines & send the mechanized corps for the hills?



Only if "the hills" are no more than 4 hexes away
Due to difficulty getting supply to the most advanced units, only a handful of units will be in the 40+ MP range, while the remaining will be around 20-30.
And by now the Axis is also defending in depth just as I did for 3 years (2-3 units behind eachother), so breakthroughs will be hard to get by. I might succeed in doing so after the next mud period if I relocate HQ Zhukov...


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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/24/2012 4:00:10 AM   
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heawy tanks for russia gets increased production in 1944. Not many players reach that stage.

U should have many more su with heawy tanks.

Check your number of guard heawy tank SU u have now in filter and check your average loss of em last 5 turns. Then double the number of units lost per turn and see if its still below production per turn.If its below production u can then double your heawy tank SU.

IS-2 is realy good tank. check the front armour and compare to p-4 and t-34 and u see how good they are. 1200 in pool sounds like a big waste. ecpecially when u only field 8k tanks in total (light,medium,heawy,support units,TD )

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/24/2012 6:17:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: juret

heawy tanks for russia gets increased production in 1944. Not many players reach that stage.

U should have many more su with heawy tanks.

Check your number of guard heawy tank SU u have now in filter and check your average loss of em last 5 turns. Then double the number of units lost per turn and see if its still below production per turn.If its below production u can then double your heawy tank SU.

IS-2 is realy good tank. check the front armour and compare to p-4 and t-34 and u see how good they are. 1200 in pool sounds like a big waste. ecpecially when u only field 8k tanks in total (light,medium,heawy,support units,TD )



Guess I will have to create some more then


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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/25/2012 2:36:28 AM   
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Turn 185

Overall
The Axis fall back 3 hexes which means our ability to attack is severely restricted this turn. We do manage a total of 24 attacks, scoring 2 held, 16 retreats, 3 routs, 1 shatter and 2 surrenders. Losses are rather light;
Axis : 49.000 troops and 98 AFVs
USSR : 70.000 troops and 206 AFVs

Units
1 TAC and 1 LB is sent to the reserves this turn. We also spend 15 points on SUs.
Our forces claim a net growth of 98.000 troops this turn.

Pools
As 173.000 workers report to the manpower pool, it ends at 1.468.
The vehicle pool takes a dip after the HQ build ups last turn, and ends at 238.546.
Armaments pool : 974.715

Liberation
Our valiant forces have liberated the following cities;
Vyshny Volochek
Torzhok
Kursk
Kaluga
Orel
Belgorod
Gorlovka
This greatly influences the victory point count.

Units destroyed
The German 4th Cavalry Division, the German 1/12th Luftwaffe Field Division, the German 2/213th Security Division, the German 2/52nd Security Division, the 121st Hungarian Reserve Division and the III Hungarian Artillery Battallion were all destroyed this turn.

Partisans
The Axis forced 13 units to retreat, leaving us with 23 active units. Our guys make 8 sabotague missions, but our pilots only make 2 supply drops this turn.






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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/25/2012 6:35:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: terje439
I also note that my IS-2 pool is high (1300 unused), so how many heavy tank regiments do people usually make?


Off the top of my head, historically they maintained about 20-25 Heavy Tank Regiments. Start building!

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/25/2012 6:45:36 PM   
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Looks like best you can do is a Draw. You have some ground to make up to avoid an Axis Minor Victory. Not sure how far 142 VPs is, but he probably can't lose the Balkans and make that number.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/25/2012 9:13:25 PM   
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142 VPs are exactly what he starts the campaign with, so you have to get to the border and cross it.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/26/2012 12:24:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Looks like best you can do is a Draw. You have some ground to make up to avoid an Axis Minor Victory. Not sure how far 142 VPs is, but he probably can't lose the Balkans and make that number.


Yup, but considering my disasters () in 1943, I am happy with a draw.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/26/2012 12:24:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Blubel

142 VPs are exactly what he starts the campaign with, so you have to get to the border and cross it.


Nice to know, thank you!

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/26/2012 12:34:01 AM   
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Turn 186

Overall
The Axis fall back once more, which means less attacks being made. It does however allow me the oppertunity to rearrange the fronts in the Stalino area which was badly needed. I now hope the Axis stay on the spot for one turn, which would grant me a minor chance at doing some harm to their line, but I doubt it. As we add up the battles, we get 2 held, 20 retreat and 3 surrender, for a total of 25 attacks. Losses are;
Axis : 83.000 troops and 186 AFVs
USSR : 66.000 troops and 284 AFVs.

Units
1 TAC is sent to the reserves this turn, and we give some of our infantry units some heavy tank regiments as well as some sapper regiments. Our forces claim a net growth of 78.000 troops this turn.
It seems our guys do not like the American tanks, as the Shermans are all rusting in the pool.

Pools
A mere 125.000 workers arrive at the manpower pool this turn ending it at 586.
Vehicle pool : 244.481
Armaments pool : 988.811

Liberation
Our forces liberate Makeevka.

Units destroyed
The German 610th SP Light Flak Battalion, the 15th Rumanian Infantry Division, the 6th Rumanian Infantry Division, the 1st Hungarian Armoured Division, the 17th Hungarian Infantry Division, the 26th Hungarian Infantry Division, the 27th Hungarian Infantry Division and the 124th Hungarian Reserve Division are all destroyed this turn.

Operation ARGH I am stuck
This operation is now called off. In the sense that new plans are being made for a minor renews offensive involving the same units.

Partisans
The Axis chase away 7 units leaving 22 on the board. Our guys perform 11 acts of sabotague, but our pilots does not fly at all.







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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/26/2012 12:26:14 PM   
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Turn 187

Overall
As expected the Axis fell back, and this time the ammount of attacks we are ale to make is really low. A mere 19 attacks are made this turn for a total of 1 held, 15 retreat and 3 routs. As a result losses are light;
Axis : 31.000 troops and 66 AFVs
USSR : 56.000 troops and 167 AFVs

Units
We spend some points on some SUs, apart from that nothing new here. Our forces claim an increase in strength of 71.000 troops this turn.

Pools
120.000 workers arrive at the manpower pool, ending it at 236.
Vehicle pool : 245.778
Armaments pool : 988.436

Liberation
Kharkov is liberated this week.

Congratulations
Our congratulations to Zhukov with his promotion to Marshall!

Partisans
8 units are forced to retreat, leaving us 21 active un its. Our guys then perform 11 acts of sabotague, but are only rewarded by 2 supply drops.







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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/27/2012 12:26:53 AM   
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Turn 188

Overall
Once more the Axis fall back (apart from the still combat ready faction, the Finnish troops), denying me the oppertunity to really do much. I launch attacks that should succeed on paper, but nevertheless we have more held than restreat results this turn. A total of 23 attacks were made, resulting in 10 held, 9 retreat, 2 rout and 2 surrender. Losses are light on the Axis side, while we once more lose quite a few tanks;
Axis : 53.000 troops and 93 AFVs
USSR : 88.000 troops and 373 AFVs.

Units
1 TAC and 1 TRS are sent to the reserves this turn, then we spend some points on reassigning units, and create some SUs. The no more units decree is making it hard to spend my points, not much for me to spend them on at the moment.
Our forces grew by 41.000 troops this turn.

Pools
With no more than 114.000 workers arriving in the manpower pool, it ends at 4.087.
Vehicle pool : 239.936.
Armaments pool : 992.871.

Liberation
We liberate Stalino this turn.

Units destroyed
The 2nd Rumanian Infantry and the 105th Hungarian Reserve Division are both destroyed this turn.

Partisans
12 units are chased away by the Axis leaving us with 18 active units. Our guys manage 6 sabotague missions, but recieve no supply drops.







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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/27/2012 5:07:21 AM   
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ye that result looks like bade dice and unlucky. mayby bad inf commander?

u also had 130 airplanes supporting u and i belive the average morale of 74 is not bad at all on 11 attacking units.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/27/2012 5:17:57 AM   
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Not enough sappers. In fact, it looks as if 42nd Guards Corps does not have any SU attached at all.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/27/2012 9:23:10 PM   
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quote:

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ye that result looks like bade dice and unlucky. mayby bad inf commander?

u also had 130 airplanes supporting u and i belive the average morale of 74 is not bad at all on 11 attacking units.



Yes, guess it was failed rolls on my side and good ones on the Axis side.
Some of my guys have good morale, the problem now is that the ones that do not have good morale have so poor movement that they cannot catch the Axis and attack and thus build their morale.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/27/2012 9:24:13 PM   
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Not enough sappers. In fact, it looks as if 42nd Guards Corps does not have any SU attached at all.


Hmm, well yes that corps must have been overlooked, but the engineer rating is usually enough to break down the fort, nevertheless I do not think that is the sole reason for that result.




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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/27/2012 9:28:54 PM   
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Turn 189

Overall
The Axis keep falling back, once more limiting our number of attacks. All in all we manage 22 attacks, for 4 held, 15 retreat and 3 rout. Losses are not good for us in terms of AFVs;
Axis : 58.000 troops and 178 AFVs
USSR : 85.000 troops and 418 AFVs.

Units
We spend some points on SUs, and some on reassigning units this turn.
Our forces claim a net growth of 40.000 troops this turn.

Pools
120.000 workers arrive at the manpower pool, ending it at 1.780.
Vehicle pool : 234.667.
Armaments pool : 986.604.

Partisans
4 units are forced to retreat, leaving us with 17 on the map. We perform 3 sabotague missions, and this turn our pilots manage 3 supply drops.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/28/2012 6:05:45 AM   
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Turn 190

Overall
The Axis fall back one hex this turn, allowing me to conduct more attacks, BUT; alot of them are hasty attacks, something shown in the results. 14 held, 17 retreats and 1 rout for a total of 32 attacks are made this turn, and our losses are high as a result;
Axis : 65.000 troops and 216 AFVs
USSR : 103.000 troops and 578(!!) AFVs.

Units
4 TACs are sent to the reserves, and we spend some points on SUs and reassigning units. Nevertheless we will reacdh the hardcap next turn.
Our forces recorded a net growth of a measly 24.000 troops this turn.

Pools
124.000 workers arrive at the manpower pool, ending it at 6.248
vehicle pool : 228.110
armaments pool : 983.580

Units destroyed
The 82nd Fortified Zone and the 1/55th SP Flak Company are destroyed this turn.

End game outcome
I believe that an Axis minor victory is the likely outcome.

Operational Planning
I am toying with the idea of placing some of my slower units on barges and send them in behind enemy lines...

Partisans
Only 3 units are forced to retreat this turn, so we are back up to 20 active units on the map. Our guys perform 7 acts of sabotague, and this time they should be happy, as they recieve 10 supply drops.







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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/28/2012 7:38:54 AM   
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Perhaps amphib capability was reduced to something moderate.  You may not be able to move more than about 2 divisions a turn.

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RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) - 1/28/2012 8:04:03 AM   
terje439


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ORIGINAL: randallw

Perhaps amphib capability was reduced to something moderate.  You may not be able to move more than about 2 divisions a turn.


Guess we will have to wait and see

Terje

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