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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 10/31/2011 2:05:37 PM

SpectralFremen

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Oh wow! Don't i feel silly now hahaha :D

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 10/31/2011 2:36:04 PM

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Hi SpectralFremen,

No offense intended, I couldn't help posting that link for you but I hope you took it in the light hearted way that I meant it.

Regards,

- Erik

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 10/31/2011 3:30:39 PM

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Yeah of course :)

Btw I love your game, its amazing.

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 10/31/2011 7:17:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

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ORIGINAL: Das123
I'm blaming Elliot and Eric for making me find distractions while waiting for Legends to be released. ;)

Hey now, it's not like we don't sell other games here too, if you were looking for a distraction.

I don't blame you for giving into temptation though. The original SOTS + Expansions is excellent.

Have you tried Armada 2526 + Supernova yet? Starships Unlimited also still has its charms, even though it looks quaint graphically and AI War will certainly keep you busy for a while.

Regards,

- Erik

Armada 2526 + Supernova : tick (not something I can really get into for some reason)
Stardhips Unlimited : tick (loved it in its day)
AI War : tick (another game I just can't get into)
and others mentioned (and not mentioned yet)
BOTF : tick (never really liked it)
Stars! : tick (loved it at the time)
MOO2 : tick (great game in its day)
MOO3 : tick (terrible game)

Distant Worlds has been the best game I've played for years. Nothing else comes close. :)

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 10/31/2011 8:11:52 PM

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Stars! remains at the top of my list, but DW moves closer with each expansion.

The Space Empires series isn't bad either, despite being more simplistic. That's where I learned to gate camp before Eve online.

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 10/31/2011 9:00:21 PM

Bleek

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Das123

quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

quote:

ORIGINAL: Das123
I'm blaming Elliot and Eric for making me find distractions while waiting for Legends to be released. ;)

Hey now, it's not like we don't sell other games here too, if you were looking for a distraction.

I don't blame you for giving into temptation though. The original SOTS + Expansions is excellent.

Have you tried Armada 2526 + Supernova yet? Starships Unlimited also still has its charms, even though it looks quaint graphically and AI War will certainly keep you busy for a while.

Regards,

- Erik

Armada 2526 + Supernova : tick (not something I can really get into for some reason)
Stardhips Unlimited : tick (loved it in its day)
AI War : tick (another game I just can't get into)
and others mentioned (and not mentioned yet)
BOTF : tick (never really liked it)
Stars! : tick (loved it at the time)
MOO2 : tick (great game in its day)
MOO3 : tick (terrible game)

Distant Worlds has been the best game I've played for years. Nothing else comes close. :)

AI War Fleet Command is brilliant, however I think what puts a lot of people off (especially as it's more RTS than 4X) is that it takes about 5-10 hours to play a single game, sometimes longer!

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 10/31/2011 10:11:15 PM

mbar

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I own many of the listed games because I love sci-fi space games. If I ranked them for my hours played it would be.

Armada 2526 with Supernova expansion.
Sins of a Solar Empire.
Sword of the Stars Complete Collection
Distant Worlds + Expansions
Everything else

I bought SotS2 as well. I see the potential and I want it to succeed. That said DO NOT BUY now. Not unless you just gotta have it now.

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 11/1/2011 2:59:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: martok

quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

quote:

ORIGINAL: Das123
I'm blaming Elliot and Eric for making me find distractions while waiting for Legends to be released. ;)

Hey now, it's not like we don't sell other games here too, if you were looking for a distraction.

I don't blame you for giving into temptation though. The original SOTS + Expansions is excellent.

Have you tried Armada 2526 + Supernova yet? Starships Unlimited also still has its charms, even though it looks quaint graphically and AI War will certainly keep you busy for a while.

Regards,

- Erik

I can enthusiastically second the recommendation for Armada 2526, especially in combination with the Supernova expansion. It's now tied with BOTF as my favorite 4x title of all time, surpassing even Distant Worlds (which is #3 on my personal "Top 5" list).

Interesting list. I personally found Armada + expansion to be fun but to easy even at the highest difficulty setting. The only other space strategy game I've even played is Gal Civ2 and I played it ALOT (like 500 games or so) and got pretty decent at it. Perhaps that gave me an idea of how to win games like Armada but either way I found that the AI never attacked enough and it was pretty easy to lay back and build up to victory so I ended up not playing anymore. I've read that the 1.04 patch was supposed to make the AI more aggresive but I haven't tried it yet. Have you played the 1.04 patch? Would you say the AI is better at pressuring you? Just my thoughts.
Also what is BOTF? A space strategy game?

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 11/1/2011 3:12:14 AM

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BOTF is Birth of the Federation. it's a game based on the Star Trek Universe and one i spent too many hours to count playing. That is a game I wish someone would do a revised edition of..........but its the Trek franchise which seems to continuously fall on the phaser on overload.

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 11/1/2011 8:58:31 AM

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Of course, can't forget Master of Orion II. Been playing that one a lot lately, and it never ceases to impress me how deep and polished that game is. If you threw modern day graphics in there and didn't change a damned thing else, it'd be beat everything else on the market today.

Anyone who hasn't played it, you're missing out.

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 11/1/2011 9:07:58 AM

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That's not just a game, it's the cannon for 4x genre

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 11/1/2011 10:01:10 AM

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That's not just a game, it's the cannon for 4x genre

Probably the closest thing to it today is Armada 2526, believe it or not. They ripped a ton of their interface features and 4x conventions from MoO2 shamelessly! The result is a pretty good game though, so its all good.

And on that note, Armada 2526 may well be one of the best 4x space strategy games out there. And I haven't even tried the expansion.

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 11/1/2011 12:48:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: torontorock

Interesting list. I personally found Armada + expansion to be fun but to easy even at the highest difficulty setting.

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I've read that the 1.04 patch was supposed to make the AI more aggresive but I haven't tried it yet. Have you played the 1.04 patch? Would you say the AI is better at pressuring you? Just my thoughts.

I can't comment on Supernova 1.04 yet, as I currently don't have internet access at home (and am therefore unable to download it). That should change in a couple weeks, though!

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ORIGINAL: torontorock

Also what is BOTF? A space strategy game?

As Tophat said, Birth of the Federation is an old TBS 4x game set in the Star Trek universe (primarily during the TNG/DS9 timeline). It's buggy, the graphics are obviously outdated, and the AI is pretty rubbish (especially in the late-game), but it's still fun, despite everything. I would dearly love to see a sequel!

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RE: Swords of the Stars II - Friendly warning - 11/1/2011 12:48:10 PM

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Except that the combat in Armada is so atrocious that this totally breaks the comparison to MOO2. Additionally, the techtree feels kind of meh compared to the game-changing things one can research in MOO2.

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