Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: brian brian

The Germans need to start building factories. I'd lay down carriers and battleships too.

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ORIGINAL: composer99

I think Steve & I eventually recommended that the AA gun move to the hex southwest of Ryazan with the other units. The Germans can get 3:1 assuming 3 hexes attacking and 16 factors per attacking hex against the 11 factors of INF and 2 (or 4) factors of AA gun, while they can get 4:1 if there's just the two INF. In addition, they would need to use both HQ-A Rommel and the arm div to call the blitz with the AA gun present; all they need is the div to blitz the INF on their own.

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

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ORIGINAL: composer99

I think Steve & I eventually recommended that the AA gun move to the hex southwest of Ryazan with the other units. The Germans can get 3:1 assuming 3 hexes attacking and 16 factors per attacking hex against the 11 factors of INF and 2 (or 4) factors of AA gun, while they can get 4:1 if there's just the two INF. In addition, they would need to use both HQ-A Rommel and the arm div to call the blitz with the AA gun present; all they need is the div to blitz the INF on their own.

I somehow missed that post when I was setting this up. Not hard to fix, since I fell asleep shortly after posting the setup. If the AA could reach the 11 factor hex (I think it can), I'll shift it from Voronezh. If it can't, I'll have to use the 2-5 MECH for that duty.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

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ORIGINAL: composer99

I think Steve & I eventually recommended that the AA gun move to the hex southwest of Ryazan with the other units. The Germans can get 3:1 assuming 3 hexes attacking and 16 factors per attacking hex against the 11 factors of INF and 2 (or 4) factors of AA gun, while they can get 4:1 if there's just the two INF. In addition, they would need to use both HQ-A Rommel and the arm div to call the blitz with the AA gun present; all they need is the div to blitz the INF on their own.

I somehow missed that post when I was setting this up. Not hard to fix, since I fell asleep shortly after posting the setup. If the AA could reach the 11 factor hex (I think it can), I'll shift it from Voronezh. If it can't, I'll have to use the 2-5 MECH for that duty.

The AA can reach the 11 factor hex - it was in Kursk.

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ORIGINAL: composer99

IMO Italy & Japan need to build up land-based air more than fleet elements (although Japan can always build CVs) to fight at sea.

Apart from the US and Japan, the major powers in WiF very rarely need to build carriers to be available past 1942.

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

The attacks for this impulse, all at 7:1 odds. The attack that I've highlighted could have been reduced to a little less than 4:1, but it's a Blitz and would have used up 2 LND. As a +1 attack, I thought the factors would be better saved for attacks that already have mid-range odds. The Japanese invasions are all intended to deny ports to the Allies.




And the results:

Attack on USSR [48, 58]: Blitz, Fractional Odds .221 (Yes), Roll = Automatic (Breakthrough)
Attack on USSR [53, 62]: Blitz, Fractional Odds .114 (Yes), Roll = Automatic (Breakthrough)
Attack on Port Blair: Assault, Roll = 8+1 = 9 = */2S
Attack on Wewak: Assault, Roll = Automatic
Attack on Lae: Assault, Roll = Automatic

Some of you may have thought I should have provided Ground Support to the Sverdlovsk MIL. The following theory is based less on logic than it is on rationalization, but I figure the next roll of '8' would have been on that attack instead of the one on Port Blair. The 4:1 Blitz would have had the same result with or without Ground Support, which is why I didn't add any. There was only a 40% chance to disorganize the enemy, anyway.

As the Germans, what I like about setting up this attack is that it traps the Kharkov MIL. In order to escape without being disorganized, someone else has to move into the hex southwest of Voronezh. That stack can then be attacked by a lot of units. Once the Kharkov MIL is dead, he's gone for good, unless and until Kharkov is regained by the Allies.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

The attacks for this impulse, all at 7:1 odds. The attack that I've highlighted could have been reduced to a little less than 4:1, but it's a Blitz and would have used up 2 LND. As a +1 attack, I thought the factors would be better saved for attacks that already have mid-range odds. The Japanese invasions are all intended to deny ports to the Allies.




And the results:

Attack on USSR [48, 58]: Blitz, Fractional Odds .221 (Yes), Roll = Automatic (Breakthrough)
Attack on USSR [53, 62]: Blitz, Fractional Odds .114 (Yes), Roll = Automatic (Breakthrough)
Attack on Port Blair: Assault, Roll = 8+1 = 9 = */2S
Attack on Wewak: Assault, Roll = Automatic
Attack on Lae: Assault, Roll = Automatic

Some of you may have thought I should have provided Ground Support to the Sverdlovsk MIL. The following theory is based less on logic than it is on rationalization, but I figure the next roll of '8' would have been on that attack instead of the one on Port Blair. The 4:1 Blitz would have had the same result with or without Ground Support, which is why I didn't add any. There was only a 40% chance to disorganize the enemy, anyway.

As the Germans, what I like about setting up this attack is that it traps the Kharkov MIL. In order to escape without being disorganized, someone else has to move into the hex southwest of Voronezh. That stack can then be attacked by a lot of units. Once the Kharkov MIL is dead, he's gone for good, unless and until Kharkov is regained by the Allies.

The advance after combat can only go into the forest hex. It should be able to advance beyond that, so the Mil should be free to move.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

The attacks for this impulse, all at 7:1 odds. The attack that I've highlighted could have been reduced to a little less than 4:1, but it's a Blitz and would have used up 2 LND. As a +1 attack, I thought the factors would be better saved for attacks that already have mid-range odds. The Japanese invasions are all intended to deny ports to the Allies.




And the results:

Attack on USSR [48, 58]: Blitz, Fractional Odds .221 (Yes), Roll = Automatic (Breakthrough)
Attack on USSR [53, 62]: Blitz, Fractional Odds .114 (Yes), Roll = Automatic (Breakthrough)
Attack on Port Blair: Assault, Roll = 8+1 = 9 = */2S
Attack on Wewak: Assault, Roll = Automatic
Attack on Lae: Assault, Roll = Automatic

Some of you may have thought I should have provided Ground Support to the Sverdlovsk MIL. The following theory is based less on logic than it is on rationalization, but I figure the next roll of '8' would have been on that attack instead of the one on Port Blair. The 4:1 Blitz would have had the same result with or without Ground Support, which is why I didn't add any. There was only a 40% chance to disorganize the enemy, anyway.

As the Germans, what I like about setting up this attack is that it traps the Kharkov MIL. In order to escape without being disorganized, someone else has to move into the hex southwest of Voronezh. That stack can then be attacked by a lot of units. Once the Kharkov MIL is dead, he's gone for good, unless and until Kharkov is regained by the Allies.

The advance after combat can only go into the forest hex. It should be able to advance beyond that, so the Mil should be free to move.

Ah, the rail movement bonus rears its ugly head again.

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ORIGINAL: composer99

Until watching this AAR the only reason I didn't like playing with railway movement bonus is that it was irritating to remember.

Now I don't like it because it really helps Germany in a Barbarossa, certainly more than I expect it will help the USSR on the way back.

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

Once there are a few more Americans in N. Ireland, I'm actually debating a DOW on Ireland by the USA. They should easily be able to take out the 5-3 INF and still get to Dublin before the MIL arrives. This plan is for next turn, not this one. The reason I'd do this is to get a larger platform for building up troops for a massive invasion. It would also give me a second Major Port on the Bay of Biscay from which I can base parts of the American fleet.

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ORIGINAL: Lothrim

How is the axis supplied in persia?
Are they relying on the japanese fleet to keep suply open by sea or are they tracking supply through the dessert.

I was thinking that the paratrooper would be a much greater threat here.
Also if the axis does not have all hexes in persia occupied then a simple air-transport could move the para into a hex where it would cut supply.

On the main front germany has left behind HQ's so operations there are a no-go.
Since both russian ATR are face-up you could carry the para extremely far. The ATR stacked with the para could carry the para 3*11 hexes away.
Also since paradrops are after air-transport, you can air-transport the para to its launching point where ATR number 2 waits to carry him 11 hexes into enemy lands.
(remember stacking limits on planes)

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: Red Prince

Once there are a few more Americans in N. Ireland, I'm actually debating a DOW on Ireland by the USA. They should easily be able to take out the 5-3 INF and still get to Dublin before the MIL arrives. This plan is for next turn, not this one. The reason I'd do this is to get a larger platform for building up troops for a massive invasion. It would also give me a second Major Port on the Bay of Biscay from which I can base parts of the American fleet.

But then you would have to worry about partisans there.

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ORIGINAL: composer99

In my opinion:
- Every land unit in Moscow stays where it is & fights to the death.
- The stack south of Moscow should stick together and move to the Oka bend.
- The stack southwest of Ryazan should stick together and move to the hex the AA can reach
- The blitz stack in front of Voronezh moves to the forest hex just south of the Don, southeast of Voronezh
- HQ Koniev moves straigt back 3 hexes (to stay on the rail line).
- The 2 blitz units in the Don basin move to the hex 2 hexes east of Rostov behind the join of the Don & West Manych rivers

As for air units:
- the LND4 in Moscow rebases to just in front of Penza, where it can ground support both Moscow & Rostov as required
- the LND3 rebases either east to help form up a Volga/Ural front or south to help form up the Caucasus front
- likewise with the FTR2 near Voronezh