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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/10/2014 8:03:21 PM   
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A bunch of small strikes come in after the main events, and they go for some small ships including minelayers here, which were missed after the strike was decimated.

[EDIT: I just noticed these are my NF from Keijo that I put on day LR CAP. Nice to get them some kills! ]



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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/10/2014 8:06:43 PM   
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The LR CAP was anemic today. I truly hope it is working tomorrow if the Allies come closer. I have a few very god ships left here!

This DD was lost after hitting a mine, which is too bad as it could have made it. Still, worth the price for these kind of bombardments.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/10/2014 8:08:15 PM   
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The air losses totals are decent for the day. i can afford to lose Oscars, at least. The Sams and Franks got a day off, which was good for fatigue levels and morale.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/10/2014 8:37:48 PM   
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3 June 1945
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SUBS: Two more confirmed sunk. One hit hard, three more at least damaged and a bunch more air HIT messages. There are only 20 or so left around Moppo from something like 50-70 a month ago.

KOREA: The IJA moves forward from Gunzan and the Allies react by moving armor into the path on the hex that we need to move from to close the door on the Marines in Masan. So, now the games begin. I can't move down the West coast as the Iowas would have quite a lot of fun with that. So I'll continue through the center and engage the Allied force while attempting to bombard by sea. No bombing just yet in case he moves up in rage of LBA. I don't want to confuse my escorts again.

Now. Since it certainly looks like there are not many forces at Moppo, I think a surprise is in order. I'll transport any and every para-unit I can back to Kyushu and get them prepping. I'll start a prep for some brigades as well, but an invasion will be tough to orchestrate and might not do much anyway, since the armor can move back quickly. So the paras can at least determine how bad things are at Moppo, I hope. The So Pac command is there, though, so that will not fall easily with any combat support. I'll go through the units I know are there and post soon.

STRAT BOMBING: Another hit. The Ki-83 at Hamamatsu down to 9 (21). I have 260 Ki-83 in the pools, so enough for a few months at current usage, and still there are 39 factories unharmed. The Shindens are only at 30. Five have now been made. I will immediately put them into a 9 plane group when I have enough.

HOME ISLANDS: More jockeying now. That strike killed the Oscar group at Hamamatsu, which is actually quite good with a number of 70-80 exp pilots, but just the airframes. I'm going to upgrade them to Frank 'r.' To do that I'll have to switch out another good group, and get more defenses in the area in general.

Also, I have to now put a massive CAP on Hiroshima and Yokohama. I've decided to place the CVs there as the flak is BIG, and the bases are strong with lots of fighters already. Fingers crossed.

CHINA: More bombing. The 1200AV army is moving back to the MLF in good terrain a few hexes frame Shanghai. It'll be a month before the Allies get around here most likely, but still I'll get them dug in.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 45 - NIGHT
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TF 10 encounters mine field at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Japanese Ships
AM Wa 102
ML G-626, Mine hits 2, heavy damage
ML G-625
ML G-619, Mine hits 2, heavy damage
ML G-434
ML G-424
ML G-403
ML G-325
ML G-308
ML G-607
ML G-485, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

242 mines cleared

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Submarine attack near Moppo at 100,54

Japanese Ships
E No.132
E No.118
E No.32

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 36, and is sunk

SS KXVII is sighted by escort
E No.132 attacking submerged sub ....
SS KXVII forced to surface!
E No.118 firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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ASW attack near Moppo at 100,54

Japanese Ships
E No.132

Allied Ships
SS Plaice, hits 12 Two direct, including damaging forward tubes.

SS Plaice is sighted by escort
Plaice bottoming out ....
E No.132 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.132 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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TF 240 encounters mine field at Moppo (100,54)

Japanese Ships
PB Chosa Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
PB Hirota Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Both make it back.

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ASW attack near Moppo at 100,54

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
SS Sea Cat, hits 2

SS Sea Cat is sighted by escort
Sea Cat bottoming out ....
DD Yamakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yamakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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TF 6 encounters mine field at Moppo (100,54)

Japanese Ships
DD Kiyoshimo, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

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TF 10 encounters mine field at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Japanese Ships
ML G-434, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
ML G-403, Mine hits 2, heavy damage


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TF 106 encounters mine field at Moppo (100,54)

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuzakura, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 10 encounters mine field at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Japanese Ships
ML G-619, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Pescadores at 84,63, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AG Haguro Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Bullard
DD Bush
DD Daly
DD Heywood Edwards
DD Erben
DD Paul Hamilton
DD McKee
DD McNair

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 39% moonlight: 11,000 yards

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TF 10 encounters mine field at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Japanese Ships
ML G-424, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
ML G-308, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
ML G-325, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
ML G-403, Mine hits 1, heavy damage


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Sub attack near Moppo at 100,54

Japanese Ships
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
SS Macabi, hits 17

SS Macabi launches 4 torpedoes at DD Hayate
DD Hayate attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hayate is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Moppo at 100,55

Japanese Ships
DD Nara

Allied Ships
SS Sabalo, hits 4

SS Sabalo launches 4 torpedoes
DD Nara attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Night Naval bombardment of Moppo at 100,54

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 20 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
Seafire IIC: 3 damaged
Seafire IIC: 1 destroyed on ground
PBM-3D Mariner: 21 damaged
PBM-3D Mariner: 1 destroyed on ground
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 22 damaged
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed on ground
Avenger II: 1 destroyed on ground


Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso

Allied ground losses:
1246 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 82 disabled
Engineers: 61 destroyed, 147 disabled

Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (6 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 46
Port hits 1

BB Hyuga firing at Moppo
E13A1b Jake acting as spotter for BB Ise
BB Ise firing at Moppo
BB Fuso firing at Moppo

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Night Naval bombardment of Moppo at 100,54

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBM-3D Mariner: 11 damaged
PBM-3D Mariner: 1 destroyed on ground
Corsair II: 4 damaged
Corsair II: 1 destroyed on ground
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed on ground
Seafire IIC: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi
BB Yamato

Allied ground losses:
481 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 32 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14
Port hits 1

BB Musashi firing at Moppo
BB Yamato firing at Moppo

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Sub attack near Moppo at 100,54

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 51
SC Ch 5
E Oga

Allied Ships
SS Hammerhead, hits 11, heavy damage

SS Hammerhead launches 2 torpedoes at SC Ch 51
Hammerhead bottoming out ....
E Oga attacking submerged sub ....
Sounds of submarine breaking up detected!
Escort abandons search for sub

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TF 151 encounters mine field at Moppo (100,54)

Japanese Ships
E Oga

1 mine cleared

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 45 - MORNING
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shanghai at 94,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
PT-173
PT-157
PT-161
PT-160

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-30 Ann flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

PT-173 dead in the water ...
PT-157 dead in the water ...
PT-161 dead in the water ...
PT-160 dead in the water ...

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Morning Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 111,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. 169 CAP
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
A6M5b Zero x 2
A7M2 Sam x 23
J2M5 Jack x 3
N1K2-J George x 12
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 73
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-61-Id Tony x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 2
Ki-100-I Tony x 21
Ki-102b Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 45
P-38L Lightning x 22
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed


Ki-83 factory hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 111,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. 121 CAP
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
A6M5b Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 15
J2M5 Jack x 2
N1K2-J George x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 51
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-61-Id Tony x 11
Ki-84a Frank x 1
Ki-100-I Tony x 16
Ki-102b Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26
P-38L Lightning x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged

Ki-83 factory hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 111,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 1
A6M5b Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 12
J2M5 Jack x 2
N1K2-J George x 7
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 47
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-61-Id Tony x 6
Ki-100-I Tony x 11
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 111,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 11
J2M5 Jack x 2
N1K2-J George x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 37
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-61-Id Tony x 5
Ki-100-I Tony x 11
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged


Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Banzai! - Chuzaburo L. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-24J Liberator for the Emperor

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Morning Air attack on Hamamatsu , at 111,61

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 5
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K2-J George x 5
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 32
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5
Ki-61-Id Tony x 5
Ki-100-I Tony x 8
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 10 destroyed
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 32000 feet *
20 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 32000 feet *

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 45 - AFTERNOON
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saishu To at 99,55

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 6
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5d-S Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged


Japanese Ships
CMc Ashizaki

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Masan at 101,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 1
J2M5 Jack x 9

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 7
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tsushima at 102,56

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
J2M5 Jack x 5
N1K2-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 9
TBM-3 Avenger x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
TBM-3 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuzakura, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM-3 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 45 - GROUND
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Ground combat at 82,53 (near Changsha)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34004 troops, 581 guns, 1697 vehicles, Assault Value = 1656

Defending force 17328 troops, 153 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 308

Allied adjusted assault: 1398

Japanese adjusted defense: 215

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
9872 casualties reported
Squads: 453 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 233 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 75 (66 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 3


Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
255th Indian Tank Brigade
19th Motorised Division
50th Tank Brigade
18th Cavalry Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment
Provisionl Tank Brigade
17th Motorised Division

Defending units:
63rd Division
35th Division
32nd Division
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Reinforcements:

71st Air Flotilla arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka

Losses:

Loss of DD Hatsuzakura on Jun 03, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AG Haguro Maru on Jun 03, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Bokuei Maru on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted


Ships Sunk:

SS Hammerhead is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 03, 1945
SS KXVII is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on Jun 03, 1945

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The Allies have some tanks now between Moppo and Masan, in the clear. So, that means, if there is no naval interference.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 2:08:49 AM   
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This is better than any of my Armeggedon games!



Keep it going~!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 5:40:50 AM   
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quote:

Where is the spotter? Two groups set to spot.


What is the setting to spot?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 6:20:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg


quote:

Where is the spotter? Two groups set to spot.


What is the setting to spot?


I usually use recon (to target) 30% search/night, and the Yamato and Musashi have 14 planes total, so someone's got to be up there!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 7:21:10 AM   
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Well, a bit of a dud this turn. The Es did some more clearing, hitting a few subs we haven't seen before, which is good.




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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 7:24:03 AM   
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This was a nice little interaction, bringing the total PTs sunk this month up over 80!
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Shanghai at 94,55, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E W-29

Allied Ships
PT-157, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PT-158, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-159, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

PT-160
PT-161, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-172, Shell hits 1
PT-173, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PT-174, Shell hits 9, and is sunk

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 7:26:48 AM   
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Some of the subs made contact, one getting a sight of the amphib TF, which does look to be reinforcements, not an invasion, as it's not all APA/AKA. Lost the I-106 though. Still a few more moving in tomorrow.

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ASW attack near Kaishu at 100,49

Japanese Ships
SS RO-106, hits 19, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CB Guam
CLAA Reno
DD Benham
DD Barton
DD Cassin
DD Tucker
DD Fanning

SS RO-106 is sighted by escort
DD Cassin attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Kaishu at 100,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-202

Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer
xAK Arthur P. Davis
xAK Antonin Dvorak
xAK Cape Trafalgar
xAK Cape Falcon
xAK Mormacland

SS I-202 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kortenaer
DD Kortenaer fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 7:37:27 AM   
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The main action today is that sweeps just nail the CAP, again without the LR CAP from Nagasaki which showed Heavy Rains after the turn. That left our best 500 fighters out of the combats, and it showed with the Allies getting just over 3:1 on the day. Still, our pilots didn't fare as badly, and if tomorrow the Nagasaki planes fly it'll be a different picture. I also reset some of the Moppo sweepers to fly heavy CAP over Korea just in case. Jocke flew at lot at Masan, and I want to make sure that if this was a clearing move for 4E strikes next turn on our troops in the clear that I'm ready.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/11/2014 8:47:32 AM   
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4 June 1945
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SUBS: We lose one, they get another hit hard. We see the fleet a bit better. more heading for them tomorrow, and the I-202 still hovering out there after surviving three separate encounters with Allied escorts and surviving with very minimal damage!

KOREA: Sweeps hit all over South Korea. I changed up the settings here so in case tomorrow has bombers flying in after, the sweeps and strikes should be met more effectively. Very few sweeps at Moppo, so if the fleet moves in it'll be tough to hit them without the previous heavy LR CAP and sweeps to clear the way. Always tough decisions!

Sub scouting gives some insight to Allied fleet composition. It's not an invasion judging by ship types, so that is good info to have. I can leave all fighters and strike planes at Changchun stood down repairing and bringing morale up again. That is my default location for wrecked groups from Fusan that need some time getting up to speed again. The theory is that this leaves Fusan in better more regular supply. This turn however it went down by 8k as the troops got a big dose.

That's good in one way, bad in another. Our 2E torp planes are likely now flying sans torps! I reset them to 1k to low naval bomb if they don't get them tomorrow. Sucks, but that might work well against soft targets if the reinforcements do go into Moppo. Another 10k supply supply drop no its way two days out.

STRAT BOMBING: Thankfully on more hits today. Interesting there have been NO night strikes on the Home Islands for a good while. The fires at Osaka are nearly out now. Around 14k still, and more airframe factories, resources, shipyards and other stuff burned, but 'only' 100 each of HI/LI so far.

REPORTS:
Fires causing damage to Resources at Osaka/Kyoto!
Fires causing damage to Naval Shipyard at Osaka/Kyoto!
Fires causing damage to Manpower at Osaka/Kyoto!
Fires causing damage to Ki-45 KAId Nick factory at Osaka/Kyoto!
Fires causing damage to Manpower at Osaka/Kyoto!
Fires causing damage to Resources at Osaka/Kyoto!
Fires causing damage to Light Industry at Osaka/Kyoto!
Fires causing damage to Heavy Industry at Osaka/Kyoto!


HOME ISLANDS: The CVs are moving around trying to keep their destinations hidden. Won't last long and I expect strikes soon. Hiroshima has beefed up CAP. Yokohama will tomorrow as two CVs are pulling in there today. Luckily that is at very distant sweep range, and only for the P-47N.

Started flying in some paras. Most are widely dispersed. I can get maybe 120AV in four units in the next 4-5 days ready. Most flipped to Moppo prep at around 30% which is nice. The base there has 80k troops though, and I really think it'll be impossible, even if they are all support and engineers, to actually take it. Might give a scare though and give us good info, so still worth it!

The minesweepers get another ~150 or so mines out of Shimoneseki! unfortunately our AM hits one and goes down like a rock, ending the ability to use MLs in a dedicated sweep TF. Now it'll be AMc. Must have been 800-100 mines here from one B-29 drop! At 115 a month and after three drops like that in the last month he has to be out of them soon, right? Right?

CHINA: The long slow fade here. Changsha is next on the menu, as the advance force of armor heads that way. I've played this a bit poorly here, but the base could still hold with 800AV and 5 forts in good terrain. We'll see.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 4 - NIGHT, 45
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TF 243 encounters mine field at 102,55

Japanese Ships
AMc Choun Maru #7

8 mines cleared

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TF 10 encounters mine field at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Japanese Ships
AM Wa 102
ML G-625, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
ML G-607
ML G-430
ML G-409
ML G-603

126 mines cleared

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ASW attack near Saishu To at 100,56

Japanese Ships
E No.46
E No.24

Allied Ships
SS Mapiro, hits 4 One direct with an explosion

SS Mapiro is located by E No.46
Mapiro diving deep ....
E No.24 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.24 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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TF 227 encounters mine field at 102,55

Japanese Ships
E Ishizaki

2 mines cleared

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ASW attack near Kaishu at 100,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-202, hits 2

Allied Ships
CB Guam
CLAA Reno
DD Craven
DD Guest
DD Cassin
DD Tucker
DD Fanning
DD Stack

SS I-202 is sighted by escort
DD Cassin fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Stack fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Kaishu at 100,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-202

Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer
xAK Arthur P. Davis
xAK Antonin Dvorak
xAK Cape Trafalgar
xAK Cape Falcon
xAK Mormacland

SS I-202 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kortenaer
DD Kortenaer fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Kaishu at 100,49 This sub is leading a charmed life! (For today at least).

Japanese Ships
SS I-202

Allied Ships
DE Mack
DE Haas
DE Howard F. Clark
DE Bleasdale
DE Cowdray
DE Chester T. O'Brien
DE Melvin R. Nawman

SS I-202 launches 2 torpedoes at DE Mack
DE Cowdray fails to find sub and abandons search
DE Chester T. O'Brien fails to find sub and abandons search
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 4, 45 - MORNING
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Morning Air attack on Oita , at 104,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 6
A6M8 Zero x 9
A7M2 Sam x 12
J2M3 Jack x 2
J2M5 Jack x 3
N1K2-J George x 5
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 21
Ki-83 x 1
Ki-100-I Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Fukue-jima , at 101,58

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 18
J2M3 Jack x 6
J2M5 Jack x 8

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Oita , at 104,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 5
A6M8 Zero x 4
A7M2 Sam x 9
J2M3 Jack x 1
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K2-J George x 1
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 11
Ki-83 x 1
Ki-100-I Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5d-S Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M8 Zero: 3 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Tsushima , at 103,56

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 14
N1K2-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 5 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-51B Mustang sweeping at 32000 feet *


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 4, 45 - AFTERNOON
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Afternoon Air attack on Tsushima , at 103,56

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
A7M2 Sam x 13
J2M5 Jack x 16
N1K2-J George x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 3 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Masan , at 102,54

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 7
J2M3 Jack x 7
J2M5 Jack x 23
N1K2-J George x 4
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 25
Ki-102b Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Masan , at 102,54

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 5
J2M3 Jack x 5
J2M5 Jack x 17
N1K2-J George x 3
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 9
Ki-84r Frank x 16
Ki-102b Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Masan , at 102,54

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
J2M3 Jack x 3
J2M5 Jack x 9
N1K2-J George x 2
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 5, 45 - GROUND
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Ground combat at 81,55 (near Pingsiang)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4110 troops, 270 guns, 306 vehicles, Assault Value = 2099

Defending force 125780 troops, 1272 guns, 702 vehicles, Assault Value = 3595

Japanese ground losses:
579 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
27th Infantry Division
18th British Division
43rd Infantry Division
2nd British Division
7th Infantry Division
XV Indian Corps
6th Medium Regiment
India Command
55th Heavy Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
208th Field Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
Provisional GMC Grp

Defending units:
68th Division
71st Engineer Regiment
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
69th Division
132nd Division
61st Infantry Brigade
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
62nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Division
131st Division
92nd Infantry Brigade
15th Division
110th Division
36th Division
67th Ind.Infantry Battalion
31st Engineer Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment
75th Field AA Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th AA Regiment
North China Area Army
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Army
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
China Expeditionary Army
10th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
72nd Field AA Battalion
52nd JAAF AF Bn
130th Division
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion
22nd AA Regiment
74th Field AA Battalion
12th Army
31st Mountain Gun Regiment
9th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
38th Army
11th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
101st AA Regiment
17th JAAF Base Force
56th JAAF AF Bn


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Reinforcements: This will help with the clearings. No idea how much is left to go.

Repairs completed on AMc Zuikai Maru at Ominato, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Fuji Maru at Ominato, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Fukeui Maru #7 at Ominato, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Fumi Maru at Ominato, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Seki Maru #2 at Ominato, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Heimei Maru at Fukuoka, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Sonobe Maru at Hakodate, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Tamozono Maru #1 at Hakodate, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Sonan Maru #6 at Kobe, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Hirotama Maru at Yokohama/Yokosuka, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Sureboko Maru at Hirosaki/Aomori, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Chitose Maru at Hirosaki/Aomori, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Keinan Maru at Hirosaki/Aomori, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Hakata Maru #7 at Shikuka, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Kyo Maru #1 at Shikuka, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Banshu Maru #56 at Fusan, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Kyo Maru #3 at Fusan, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Ma 4 at Fusan, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Ichiyu Maru at Shanghai, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Yahada Maru at Nagasaki/Sasebo, ship returned to service
Repairs completed on AMc Ogashima at Fusan, ship returned to service

179th Shinbu-tai arrives at Matsuyama
180th Shinbu-tai arrives at Matsuyama
216th Shinbu-tai arrives at Utsonomiya


Losses:

Loss of SS RO-106 on Jun 04, 1945 is admitted

Ships Sunk: Interesting. Hopefully 'engaging' these damaged ships will add to their difficulties. Go subs go!

Previous report of sinking of CVE Slinger incorrect. Ship sighted and engaged at 100, 49
Previous report of sinking of SS Sea Dog incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS Tigrante incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
CL Montpelier is reported to have been sunk near Fukue-jima on May 17, 1945
PT-157 is reported to have been sunk near Shanghai on Jun 04, 1945
PT-158 is reported to have been sunk near Shanghai on Jun 04, 1945
PT-159 is reported to have been sunk near Shanghai on Jun 04, 1945
PT-161 is reported to have been sunk near Shanghai on Jun 04, 1945
PT-172 is reported to have been sunk near Shanghai on Jun 04, 1945
PT-173 is reported to have been sunk near Shanghai on Jun 04, 1945
PT-174 is reported to have been sunk near Shanghai on Jun 04, 1945

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Only about half a month to get this baby operational again. I'll just forego the major damage and get some planes back on. The Katsuragi might be around 20 days for the same treatment, while Taiho and Kaga will be a bit longer. Fingers crossed.
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This is better than any of my Armeggedon games!



Keep it going~!


Well, it could all come to a screeching halt soon. The Allied fleet has yet to react in strength to the little runs to Moppo I've been making. This message from Jocke is a bit ominous considering some bombardment runs to hit troops are scheduled. They didn't go in yesterday, dammit, but if they go today it could be dicey.

Could be a very cool one to watch if you sent your BBs in as I suspect you did! :)

I expect the turn i the next hour or so!

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Very interesting, and slightly devastating. but not in a bad way ...

The Allies move in the fleet, with several DD attack dog TFs and the full swat team of Iowa BBs. First the Es took out another sub!




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This cruiser TF showed up as well, but luckily did not find our cruisers or BBs.




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These Fletchers had some of our old DDs for breakfast before tackling a bigger prey ...




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A few of them were sunk by the Yamatos, but the best thing is that these battles sent the big behemoths home so they didn't face anything worse.




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Mutsu and company did pretty well to beat up the Brits, but didn't make their bombardment either, which was a good thing also.




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This is what came next!!!




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Some Es hit the Brits with a few more after their runin with Mutsu.




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This was all for the naval combat.

Then the sweeps started coming in early and often. Not too bad today with the Franks up in force. I also sat out the low morale groups which kept all of the CAP in top form.




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Even the Ns suffered some losses, which is nice.




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On the day the Allies lost a total of 83 fighters to our 118. Not to bad.




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Then a very big surprise!!! The Iowas get hung out to dry and sit a hex from Moppo inside our firing range! Frances go in to start the fun and 13 get a torp into 3 different BBs!!!




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BANZAI!

Even if not sunk You can count then such

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Unfortuantely, in spite of about 500 2E (T), DB and TB in range and set to strike, only a few more went for the BBs with no more hits, and most just sat at the fields.

A few also went for damaged DDs moving through Moppo!

A golden opportunity missed. The supply at Fusan had emptied and gone somewhere else, down to 15k, putting the base in the red and taking all of the TT away from the 300 planes set to use them, but none of the other bases flew either. Also none of the several hunted bombing DB/TB set flew, and the 100 kamis at Fusan and Nagasaki stayed home too!!!!!

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Yes, a quiet sad banzai here! They should have been a blazing wreck.

Maybe this is the recompense for the screwed up game decision to have them get stuck there in the first place hung out to dry!

But yes, these looked to be penetrating, so hopeful it puts them out for a while and they'll still have to move over a few sub or MTBs to make it to safety. Maybe still a chance if they are slowed.

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At least I know Jocke will be much more steamed than I am!

Also, we lose only 2-3 DD and the Allies lose maybe double that with the best BBs on the planet damaged. I'll take it.

Ar losses not too bad for the day. Lots of flak on those ships!




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