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ORIGINAL: jeffk3510 I hear ya on politics with families.. Yeah, here too. It's a shame though. We're reduced to not being able to discuss money, politics, religion or sex with family out of 'politeness'. Discussing nothing of meaning. Not challenging the other's thoughts or formation of ideas, not exploring how we came to be different. So-for the people that are closest to us in the world-we talk about banal pleasantries and non-confrontational topics and while away our fleeting time on this planet together. There's gotta be a better way... I enjoy the discussions with my dad about politics. We talk to each other about politics quite often for some hours on telephone. I love being confronted with different opinions as it is the only way to find out whether your own point of view actually is correct. Yes, me too. I talk about a number of things with my dad-like you've indicated. He and I have a very good relationship. However, I can't talk with my sister about many of these things, nor-in some cases-can I engage in the same discussions with my wife, aunts, uncles, cousins and other family that I do my father. It depends on the person. I try to have "exploratory discussions" first, i.e. not express my opinion but ask for theirs. If I see that the person does not know the definition of "discussion", as in free exchange of ideas whose point is not to convert the other person to your mode of thinking and not to take others' differences as a personal insult, I will not pursue it further. I love having discussions with my dad, he has taught me the fundamentals of idea exchange, but the older he gets the more intractable he is, so its more of a do as I say, not as I do. ...my father has entered that holy pantheon of political activism known as RETIREMENT...he simply out researches me with all his "free" time...plus, i'm firmly convinced that the older most American's get, the more averse to taxes they become...taxing of almost any form is evil in his view... He must be related to 99.9% of the farming population in Pratt and Stafford County, KS. ...well, not sure about that, but he does come from a very agrarian region of west tennessee...corn, soy beans, alfalfa, etc...plus he owned his own business for many years...tax time was always an exciting and stressful time of year...
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