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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 7:22:06 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 7:22:11 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 7:22:39 PM   
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I also have my laptop, hence, the INP!!!


Oh....denied!

ETA: Nicely done, Fodder!

ETA: Fail on the edited version you reposted Nashvillen. What an epic fail twofer on the INP!

< Message edited by Chickenboy -- 8/21/2013 7:23:49 PM >

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 7:22:56 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 7:33:54 PM   
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The only thing better would be 1. Collecting taxes on the 'regulated' business 2. Establishing some big, top-heavy bureaucracy to 'oversee' the regulation and 3. Eventually decrying the practice and supporting state class-action suits against the product some time down the line. The latter ostensibly because of some unforseen health issue, of course. Then they can use the class-action as some sort of windfall for the general fund. It's all about the children!

Repeat as necessary.

Well Duh! Grow it, market it, regulate it, just like tobacco. Make the marketers put nasty health warnings on the packages, scads of TV programs with celebrities looking down their noses at those oh-so-uncultured as to toke. You know, the usual stuff. Have to spend some money redoing the letters on the back of the stormtrooper's jackets to BATF&M.

I think the present situation, with Mexical drug lords and a rampant DEA, as much more reactionary, brutal and socially disruptive than anything that would come from legalization.

I'm older than most of you so I remember some way-back stuff, but if this can actually happen, we could get some stuff like we used to. It's all gone, now, because quantity is everything, but there was some righteous stuff back in the 60s. Much like the single malt craze, I can forsee some entrepeneurs fiddling with the plants and re-introducing some of the epic smokes: Red Panamanian, Acapulco Gold, Oaxaca, Tapachula, Michuacan; and where flowers and tip leaves means sonething, and none of that sticks and seeds doo doo.

I would suggest that them of you who's risky put some money into High Times magazine. Do it quick because the mainstream has always (backyard) supported it, and once thit hits, High Times will be nothing but another political organ. So ride the wave. Be thoughtful, be righteous.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 7:40:58 PM   
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I also have my laptop, hence, the INP!!!


Oh....denied!

ETA: Nicely done, Fodder!

ETA: Fail on the edited version you reposted Nashvillen. What an epic fail twofer on the INP!


You must have modified the quote. There is no sign that I edited that post... That is my story and I am sticking to it!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 8:29:22 PM   
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I'm older than most of you so I remember some way-back stuff, but if this can actually happen, we could get some stuff like we used to. It's all gone, now, because quantity is everything, but there was some righteous stuff back in the 60s. Much like the single malt craze, I can forsee some entrepeneurs fiddling with the plants and re-introducing some of the epic smokes: Red Panamanian, Acapulco Gold, Oaxaca, Tapachula, Michuacan; and where flowers and tip leaves means sonething, and none of that sticks and seeds doo doo.


Symon,

It's my understanding that the cultivators of this plant substance haven't been standing still in the last 40 years. They've improved the yield, genetics and THC concentration significantly over time, such that today's bud is so much more potent than that of the 60s. Do you think ye olde epic smokes that you mention would stand up to the modern breeds and varieties? I've seen some of those that are so 'oily' as to be dripping.

I have a meeting next year in Denver. I'll have to go on a 'fact finding' expedition there. Care to accompany me, Fodder?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 9:45:32 PM   
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Care to accompany me, Fodder?


Me??? Now what would I know about any of this stuff. I'm very disappointed to say that my wife would never let me take such a trip. Now I'm depressed. Where's my Thai Stick. Did I just date myself?


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 9:50:15 PM   
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Care to accompany me, Fodder?


Me??? Now what would I know about any of this stuff. I'm very disappointed to say that my wife would never let me take such a trip. Now I'm depressed. Where's my Thai Stick. Did I just date myself?



What does your wife have to complain about? It's perfectly legal, no?

ETA: Since you're depressed and all...did you know that there's a certain treatment for depression? You should be able to get a prescription for it too. Say...you wouldn't happen to be in 'pain' for something, would you?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/21/2013 10:18:33 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 12:32:17 AM   
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Symon,

It's my understanding that the cultivators of this plant substance haven't been standing still in the last 40 years. They've improved the yield, genetics and THC concentration significantly over time, such that today's bud is so much more potent than that of the 60s. Do you think ye olde epic smokes that you mention would stand up to the modern breeds and varieties? I've seen some of those that are so 'oily' as to be dripping.

I have a meeting next year in Denver. I'll have to go on a 'fact finding' expedition there. Care to accompany me, Fodder?

Oh heck, I don't know. I'm not a real pothead. Never was a real pothead actually, just an afficianado. Kinda remember ye olde epic smokes and had a soft place for them, that's all. Kinda like the real old days when smoking Players or Balkan Sobranie meant something. Oh well, life goes on and gets more boring

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 12:55:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		This from a Mississippi study a few years back: Hory crap! The stuff today is twice as potent as the stuff that I...was exposed to secondhand...in college.

ETA: What the heck is Balkan Sobranie?

Year THC %
1975 .74 %
1976 .72 %
1977 .90 %
1978 1.37 %
1979 1.67 %
1980 2.06 %
1981 2.28 %
1982 3.05 %
1979 3.23 %
1984 3.29 %
1985 2.82 %
1986 2.30 %
1987 2.93 %
1988 3.29 %
1989 3.06 %
1990 3.35 %
1991 3.00 %
1992 3.10 %
1993 3.29 %
1994 3.48 %
1995 3.75 %
1996 4.07 %
1997 4.53 %
1998 4.43 %
1999 4.55 %
2000 4.87 %
2001 5.32 %
2002 6.34 %
2003 6.40 %
AVERAGE 3.85 %

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:10:49 AM   
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This from a Mississippi study a few years back: Hory crap! The stuff today is twice as potent as the stuff that I...was exposed to secondhand...in college.

ETA: What the heck is Balkan Sobranie?

Year THC %
1975 .74 %
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,,,
2003 6.40 %
AVERAGE 3.85 %

Sobranie is Turkish tobacco. Aromatic and mildly soporific/hallucinogenic, as tobacco used to be. Used to be able to get it here long ago, but alas ...

Woof !! 6% is pretty outrageous. But, don't forget, THC is a stereoisomer. IIRC it's the levo isomer that turns you into a grinning moron with a craving for Screaming Yellow Zonkers and the dextro isomer don't do squat. Not that I know anything about it but waaay back in maybe 1972, High Times published an article about how to buy Iowa Green from the football players and cook it down and extract the hash oil. Since it was so wimpy, there was a section on how to do an isomerization, with nitric acid, over a slo-cooker, and the timing was the length of one of the Stooge's shows. Not that I know anything about it I just heard about it you understand.

Anyway, the isomerization process was supposed to up the levo form from about 8 to about 15% of the total THC content. Now I wouldn't know anything about that, but I heard, from a source I trust, that the product was pretty wicked. Ahhh, youth. It's so wasted on the young.

Ciao. John

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:29:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

This from a Mississippi study a few years back: Hory crap! The stuff today is twice as potent as the stuff that I...was exposed to secondhand...in college.

ETA: What the heck is Balkan Sobranie?

Year THC %
1975 .74 %
...
,,,
2003 6.40 %
AVERAGE 3.85 %

Sobranie is Turkish tobacco. Aromatic and mildly soporific/hallucinogenic, as tobacco used to be. Used to be able to get it here long ago, but alas ...

Woof !! 6% is pretty outrageous. But, don't forget, THC is a stereoisomer. IIRC it's the levo isomer that turns you into a grinning moron with a craving for Screaming Yellow Zonkers and the dextro isomer don't do squat. Not that I know anything about it but waaay back in maybe 1972, High Times published an article about how to buy Iowa Green from the football players and cook it down and extract the hash oil. Since it was so wimpy, there was a section on how to do an isomerization, with nitric acid, over a slo-cooker, and the timing was the length of one of the Stooge's shows. Not that I know anything about it I just heard about it you understand.

Anyway, the isomerization process was supposed to up the levo form from about 8 to about 15% of the total THC content. Now I wouldn't know anything about that, but I heard, from a source I trust, that the product was pretty wicked. Ahhh, youth. It's so wasted on the young.

Ciao. John


One of my Syrian friends gave me a nargile a few years back. May just have to get it out again after this discussion, John. Damn interesting isomerization process you heard about there. The timing mechanism was about one of the funniest damn things I'd heard in some time. Very nice.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 4:27:31 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 11:57:25 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 1:20:28 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:05:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Symon
I'm older than most of you so I remember some way-back stuff, but if this can actually happen, we could get some stuff like we used to. It's all gone, now, because quantity is everything, but there was some righteous stuff back in the 60s. Much like the single malt craze, I can forsee some entrepeneurs fiddling with the plants and re-introducing some of the epic smokes: Red Panamanian, Acapulco Gold, Oaxaca, Tapachula, Michuacan; and where flowers and tip leaves means sonething, and none of that sticks and seeds doo doo.


Symon,

It's my understanding that the cultivators of this plant substance haven't been standing still in the last 40 years. They've improved the yield, genetics and THC concentration significantly over time, such that today's bud is so much more potent than that of the 60s. Do you think ye olde epic smokes that you mention would stand up to the modern breeds and varieties? I've seen some of those that are so 'oily' as to be dripping.

I have a meeting next year in Denver. I'll have to go on a 'fact finding' expedition there. Care to accompany me, Fodder?


I sense a Beavis and Butthead adventure here.


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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:07:14 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:33:15 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:34:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Party invitations are out for all 3 days of Labor Day weekend. House and pool will be open door basically from Saturday afternoon until Monday evening. If any of you lot have the slightest chance of meandering this way let me know and I'll be glad to forward the evites!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:35:29 PM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 2:40:18 PM   
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Good grief, forgot all about Labor Day

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/22/2013 6:17:17 PM   
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Party invitations are out for all 3 days of Labor Day weekend. House and pool will be open door basically from Saturday afternoon until Monday evening. If any of you lot have the slightest chance of meandering this way let me know and I'll be glad to forward the evites!

Thank you, but won't be able to attend.

Spending the weekend on CV-10 in Charleston, SC with my son and his boy scout troop.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/23/2013 3:49:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Slow news day on the THREAD. Anyone heard from our smooth-headed Danish friend today?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/23/2013 3:50:29 AM   
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BTW, Andre, the new house will be just a long 3 iron from the restaurant where we had dinner a while back.

I may be coming to your neck of the woods next month, dude. I'll get back to you with specifics...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/23/2013 4:40:33 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/23/2013 5:15:33 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/23/2013 5:15:43 AM   
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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 8/23/2013 5:15:53 AM   
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