Apollo11
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ORIGINAL: Apollo11 Thanks John (but it wasn't me writing the above - it was Ray "Skyros")! Sorry Leo. Guess I was confused. No offense meant. No problem at all John! quote:
So far, the debrief indicates the Captain deviated from the nominal course in order to give the passengers a closer view of the Costa Orbatello and Monte Argentario. Possibly, the ship was in the outside Civitaveccia-Tolone/Palermo-Livorno lane, but it would take only a 2 NautMile deviation from the lane towards Isola del Giglio to do the nasty. The ship may well have been in an inside lane, inside Isola di Giannutri, in which case the deviation would have been less than 1 km. This last seems more probable. You know, I can almost understand his desire. He should have put a flag on the ricks; heck that coast has been sounded for since 3,000 years, and modern autohelm programs can handle that stuff no-worries, so WTFO? He might have been a bit of a cowboy and that's not all bad, but the thing he cannot be forgiven is shirking his duty as Captain. The debrief stopped there and you needed a special password (which I ain't got) to see the rest. Reading between the lines, it seems to me the swine just bailed. To my simple mind, a boat/ship's Captain is the person, under God, upon whom rests the responsibility for the welfare of every man, woman, child, dog, cat, parrot, and rat, under his command. A Captain never, ever, leaves his ship untill and unless everybody else is off or accounted for. If that means the Captain goes down, then the Captain goes goddam down. That is his job. That is his trust. If we find that this Captain abandoned his trust, I will be in the merchant areas agitating seriously for this **** to be slowly, publicly hung, using piano wire, "Pour encourager les autres". Yep... that was really bad behavior by the Captain (if it is true - same as if he got drunk earlier that evening as Kristian read)... quote:
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay According to news reports that I have read, the captain is claiming that the ship was following a route that it has followed "52 times a year" and that the rock it hit was uncharted. I'm having a hard time believing this... http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017250787_cruise16.html "That appeared to diverge from declarations the company made Saturday insisting that the ship, the Costa Concordia, had used the normal course it followed "52 times a year." Schettino insisted he was twice as far out and said the ship ran aground because the rocks weren't marked on his nautical charts. However, he did concede he was maneuvering the ship in "touristic navigation" — implying a route that was a deviation from the norm and designed to entertain the tourists. "We were navigating approximately 300 meters from the rocks," he told Mediaset television. "There shouldn't have been such a rock. On the nautical chart it indicated that there was water deep below." Sad (and utterly futile) behavior... quote:
ORIGINAL: JWE Rat Poop !!!! I've raced in the Tyrrhenian lots of times. I have charts. Them rocks are clearly marked. Been clearly marked for 3,000 years. I can pull up my charts and see the GD things right now, today. What utter idiot is out there claiming these are unmarked? If anyone is so arrogant and stupid as to claim that, I will likely be at the trial; either me or one of 50,000 other sailors who know the location of those rocks to within a meter. Can you say "Have no clue where the frikkin Mediterranean is, but am desperately trying to cover my ass and will lie like a Persian rug"? The ship was 100.000+ tons... it is a monster... 25+ feet keel... how on Earth they thought they could safely steer so near well known hazardous rocks known for thousands of years of maritime history there... Leo "Apollo11"
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