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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/23/2018 12:11:24 PM

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Manus was swept by 6 P-40Ks and defended by 24 Oscar IIIas, losing an Oscar to 2 P-40s. Really?

Without seeing the replay, I can't say for sure but here's my guess. You likely have your 24 Oscar on a 50% CAP/20rest mission. Something like that.
Even at 100% CAP only a max of 8 will be in the air, 8 more will launch within 5 mins, the last 8 within 30 mins. So, it was really more like 8 Oscar v 6 P-40 initially, so 1:1. Then your 5 min launch craft likely hit the stragglers and got one more.
Just me guessing, but you could watch the replay again and see ....

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/23/2018 2:59:43 PM

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This will be interesting. I've never been able to liberate CK starting this late. Even when I get the forts down to zero, which is frightfully painful (takes me about one month per fort level) there are just SO many CHI squads that I can never get the 2:1 ratio needed.
Granted I am playing AI, and more importantly Ironman so the CHI units have been increased (but I haven't run the numbers to know exactly how much). In stock it may be possible, I've just never tried ...

Ok, I took Chungking around Oct 43. However, I didn't have enough time to relocate the troops to where they were needed after that -- in my case Vietnam and Marianas and then Hokkaido. In hindsight, I probably would have been better off surrounding Chungking, and moving the bulk of the troops into other positions much earlier. Six of one, 7 of the other though. Scenario 1 game.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/23/2018 6:43:49 PM

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But I'm all about delay and the thousand cuts thing.

What else can Japan hope for?

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When his carriers are repaired, he'll have 3 Essex, 6 pre-war, 2-3 CVLs and all the little babies. Minus the CVEs, that's about 900 capacity. I'll have to count mine up.

You should have about that many. IIRC correctly you've only lost one. Heck with your reinforcements you may even exceed him by a few.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/23/2018 6:48:21 PM

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I probably would have been better off surrounding Chungking, and moving the bulk of the troops into other positions much earlier.

I kinda go along these lines myself. What do others with more experience, especially late game, think of this idea.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/23/2018 8:10:44 PM

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I probably would have been better off surrounding Chungking, and moving the bulk of the troops into other positions much earlier.

I kinda go along these lines myself. What do others with more experience, especially late game, think of this idea.

Absolutely take the city ASAP. It's worth the very heavy casualties.

The "surround and isolate" argument has merits if the Allies are banging on the inner perimeter in '42, but otherwise taking the city is the best option as it frees up the greatest number of troops.

Not just combat troops either. You can min/max on the garrison requirements to free up the better quality troops for elsewhere, as well as gut China of the aviation and engineer units, as well as move the aircraft needed to keep Chungking suppressed over to other duties. If you get the resources and industry fairly intact too then it's the icing on the cake.

Also not to be neglected is the psychological factor of knowing there's no possibility of Allied actions over a vast section of Japanese territory.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/23/2018 9:08:09 PM

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We'll see what happens in China. I'm with MM here. I want it to be mine so I don't have to worry about it, ever. Then I can pull out as many troops as possible. Some of them are pretty highly experienced. But, I'll pull out the trashed units first. They're cheaper to buy.

SE Fleet - well, unless I can get an airfield or two fixed, there won't be much in the way of my fighters vs. his bombers. I am using KB to ambush some though. Guess I should post the next turn.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/23/2018 9:12:36 PM

Mike Solli

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29 Jul 43

Sub War

One hex SE of Cam Ranh Bay, the Shark torpedoed and sank one of the tiny Type-1 TS tankers, a 1250 capacity one. She was hauling oil. She was one of 22 (now 21) of these tiny tankers hauling oil and fuel from Miri/Brunei to Cam Ranh Bay. Then I was hauling the stuff in big (11.6k) TKs to the Home Islands. Time to change things. CRB is now done as a hub and I�m going to find some moderate sized TKs (probably Std-A/B and/or Type-1 TM (8150 capacity)) to haul directly from Miri/Brunei to the Home Islands. It�ll save on fuel too. Not sure what I�m going to do with all those tiny TKs, but there�s a use for them somewhere.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

The DD Cummings (Ted is calling her the DD Boise) happened to find an AV sitting at Makin (augmenting naval search in the area) but ran away without engaging. Then she found my carriers but again ran away without engaging. She will pay for her insolence.

The invasion of Tabiteuea finally commenced. The 90 Regiment landed about half its strength and did a half-hearted shock attack which disabled some squads on both sides. Tomorrow, I�ll rest them because they are fatigued and disrupted, while landing more (or maybe all) of the regiment along with some more supply. My carriers continue to hover in the area protecting all. They did send 18 Vals after DD Boise hitting her with a single 250kg bomb. At the time she was fleeing to the south. Hopefully, that�ll slow her down enough to put her under for good tomorrow. She did manage to shoot down a Val. That was my only pilot loss today.

SE Fleet

Interesting things are going on in this area today. I think Ted is finally realizing that my major airbases (with the notable exception of Gasmata) are all pretty much destroyed and he can use fewer sorties at each base to �maintain� the damage. He sent sorties against Manas, Kavieng and Rabaul. Like I said, Gasmata has no damage and, interestingly, is getting supply overland (I guess) from Rabaul. It is slowly increasing, which is good. I haven�t stationed any aircraft there because they�ll suck up the supply, but I digress. I have no operational fighters at any of the bases, but they wouldn�t fly anyway.

I did have a bit of good fortune. My carrier CAP leaked over Namatami (the dot hex to the NW of Shortlands, where that former garrison fled). Half a dozen B-25s were on their daily training run bombing the remnants of the garrison and were met by 7 highly experienced Zeros from KB. All the bombers were shot down for no loss.

KB found a small TF sitting at Munda and attacked it twice using a total of 18 Kate, 32 Jill and 45 Judy sorties. The net result was the sinking of AKs (NOT xAKs) Cetus and Draco along with DD Case. In addition, DD Patterson took 3x 500kg bombs but was not reported sunk. I�m pretty sure she�s gone because there are no ships in or near Munda visible. Here�s the weird part. The AKs were loaded. Ground losses were 0 combat, 227 non-combat destroyed and 20 disabled, 0 engineers and 315 vehicles destroyed and 20 disabled, but only 15 troops lost. Hmmm�

Ted admitted that he sent a base force there and it went in 2 convoys. The troops had already arrived and the TF that was destroyed carried the equipment.

The Allied troops lost did jump by 80 today. That�s 240 squads, right? I need to check to see the composition of a navy base force. That one was trashed. Yay, KB! More tiny cuts!

I�m shifting KB north to be within range of Rabaul and Kavieng tomorrow. Hopefully, the fighters can take out a bomber or two and gain more elite pilots.

Ted did another nasty little invasion today. He flew in a slice of the 2 USMC Paratroop Battalion to take Namatami, the unoccupied dot hex at the south end of the island where Kavieng is. It�s 1 hex east of Rabaul. According to intel (the local dog population?) some 450 troops landed. I�m flying an SNLF to Kavieng to march south but I think I�m going to also fly some IJA paratroopers sitting at Truk right onto the base. That place is definitely too close to home to be an Allied base. Tomorrow, I�m going to detach the 4 Kongos from KB for a visit too.

Manas: 100-80-94
Kavieng: 98-100-98
Rabaul: 44-98-97
Talasea: 0-100-29, this is the only airfield that is repairing. Hopefully, it stays under the radar.
Gasmata: 0-0-0

SRA
Burma

Nothing to report.

China

My Chungking invasion army will reach Chungking tomorrow. Then the ground bombardment will begin. The air bombardment has been going on for months. Today, I changed all my bombers to concentrate on Chungking. I�ll get a bomber count for you tomorrow. I�ll post the bombardment so you can see what�s there on both sides. I�m really curious to see how much Chinese AV is there. They�ve been down to minimal calorie count for a long time and there are a LOT of mouths to feed.

Speaking of feeding, I�m starting to see the occasional yellow �!� pop up in China. I�m shipping another 60k supply there to ease things. I�ll probably ship another 60-120k there in the near future. They�re going to need it with all that artillery banging away.

Other Stuff

The N1K2-J George R&D advanced to 1/44 (will become operational 9/43). There are 6x30 factories researching along with 25(5), 21(9) and 18(12) still repairing.

The Ha-43 engine R&D advanced to 4/45. There are 1x60 and 1x30 factories researching with two more that are at 25(5). In 5 days, my research efforts will double. Yay! I estimate this engine to be operational in 5/44, and there�s absolutely no amount of whipping I can do to change that.

Now that I�m getting better fighters, I�m having issues with them because some of the good ones aren�t SR1. I�m going to take a hard look at some of my fighter training units and decide which should convert to operational units. Most of my fighter airframe pools are filling out nicely so I can afford more operational units. Couple that with the fact that some of my planes are SR3, I need more operational units to be able to keep sufficient numbers of fighters in the air.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/24/2018 3:49:53 PM

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This will be interesting. I've never been able to liberate CK starting this late. Even when I get the forts down to zero, which is frightfully painful (takes me about one month per fort level) there are just SO many CHI squads that I can never get the 2:1 ratio needed.
Granted I am playing AI, and more importantly Ironman so the CHI units have been increased (but I haven't run the numbers to know exactly how much). In stock it may be possible, I've just never tried ...

Ok, I took Chungking around Oct 43. However, I didn't have enough time to relocate the troops to where they were needed after that -- in my case Vietnam and Marianas and then Hokkaido. In hindsight, I probably would have been better off surrounding Chungking, and moving the bulk of the troops into other positions much earlier. Six of one, 7 of the other though. Scenario 1 game.

Yeah, but Mike is starting on CK at what date? 6/43? I would guess you started your attack a few months earlier than that ... or not?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/24/2018 5:55:23 PM

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This will be interesting. I've never been able to liberate CK starting this late. Even when I get the forts down to zero, which is frightfully painful (takes me about one month per fort level) there are just SO many CHI squads that I can never get the 2:1 ratio needed.
Granted I am playing AI, and more importantly Ironman so the CHI units have been increased (but I haven't run the numbers to know exactly how much). In stock it may be possible, I've just never tried ...

Ok, I took Chungking around Oct 43. However, I didn't have enough time to relocate the troops to where they were needed after that -- in my case Vietnam and Marianas and then Hokkaido. In hindsight, I probably would have been better off surrounding Chungking, and moving the bulk of the troops into other positions much earlier. Six of one, 7 of the other though. Scenario 1 game.

Yeah, but Mike is starting on CK at what date? 6/43? I would guess you started your attack a few months earlier than that ... or not?

I was in Chungking around July 24, 1943, took the northern bases and by Oct 1 thinking about taking Chungking , which at the time had 4,000 AV or so, I think it fell in about 8-10 attacks, and I think I tried to space out the attacks around 3-5 days. So she didn't fall till Nov sometime -- but I didn't find the date in my AAR.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 1:28:58 PM

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30 Jul 43

Sub War

The Amatsukaze hit the Triton with a depth charge off Truk. I typically see ~3 enemy subs hanging out there.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

There are 2 single DD TFs, composed of the Cummings and Abbot. They both found the invasion TF, but both declined combat when they saw the invasion fleet was escorted by 2 CAs (Aobas). Cummings got away, but Abbot (Fletcher class!) caught the attention of 18 Vals and was hit by a single 250kg bomb which caused a magazine explosion. Goodbye Abbot!

In the afternoon, 25 Nells, from Roi-Namur, and 18 more Vals hit the enemy troops on Tabiteuea. I knew they would cause few casualties, but I just wanted to increase fatigue and disruption on the enemy troops.

I had planned on resting today, but apparently, when more troops land they trigger another shock attack at an atoll. Turns out that did the trick. The 11:1 shock attack destroyed the 5 Marine Defense Battalion and the 821 Engineer Aviation Battalion, also destroying a few Coronados as well. That was the purpose of this operation. I wanted to keep enemy naval search at arms length.

Now, I want to get the last of the AS/engineers ashore to repair damage and build forts. I'll also replace 90 regiment with a Naval Guard, and maybe an engineer company to build forts faster. I'd also like 10-15k supply so they are self sufficient for a while. The carriers will hang around until the invasion fleet completes its mission then will withdraw.

SE Fleet

KB (1&2) was hanging around east of Rabaul today. I sent an A6M5c daitai to LRCAP Talasea. The first engagement wasn't so hot, losing half a dozen to no Spitfire losses.

Fortunately, it was over a Japanese base, so I lost 1 KIA and 4 WIA. Later, 15 SBDs showed up and I shot down 11.

KB didn't see any shipping, so they hurled a few Judies at Namatanai to give the Marines there a headache.

Allied bombers were spread around hitting Rabaul and Kavieng.

KB will move tomorrow. Enemy subs are starting to congregate.

Manas: 100-80-92
Kavieng: 98-100-98
Rabaul: 44-100-100
Talasea: 0-100-29, still under the radar.

SRA
Burma

Nothing to report.

China

My army arrived at Chungking today. Bombardment tomorrow.

Other Stuff

Reinforcements:

I-40, Glen sub, Central Pacific
E Mutsure, Etorofu class, ASW
SC Ch-48, ASW

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 1:55:00 PM

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Sub War

South of Tabiteuea, the I-5 ran across the AV Chandeleur. I thought she was a carrier at first! She missed.

5 Fleet

The BB TF (Yamato, Musashi, Nagato, Mutsu) did some upgrades and was headed to Truk via Dutch Harbor. They arrived in the wee hours, catching a supply convoy just as it arrived. They sank it:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Dutch Harbor at 171,50, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 1
BB Yamato
BB Musashi
CL Oyodo
CL Agano
CL Isuzu
DD Tamanami
DD Murakumo
DD Ayanami
DD Sagiri
DD Yugiri
DD Sazanami
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
SC Adroit, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
SC Advent, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Manulani, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
xAK San Anselmo, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Willimoto, Shell hits 34, and is sunk
xAK George Taylor, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
xAK Clan Lamont, Shell hits 23, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

After they ran off a 4 ship YMS TF (sinking 2), they proceeded to bombard Dutch Harbor, probably sinking a few more ships:

Night Naval bombardment of Dutch Harbor at 171,50

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi
BB Yamato
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
CL Isuzu
CL Agano
CL Oyodo

Allied Ships
SS Whale, hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS S-47, hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
LSI(L) Glenorchy, Shell hits 3, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (7 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Port hits 18
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

He never saw them coming.

4 Fleet

The Tabiteuea invasion force has completed landing the troops and has landed ~5600 supply. All was quiet here today with MKB hovering around, just in case.

SE Fleet

I detached 4 CA from KB to bombard Namatanai, trying to disrupt the Marines.

KB steamed to within 2 hexes of Manus to try and get some bombers. First, they ran into a dozen P-40Ks, trading 2 losses each (1 KIA). Then they caught 18 unescorted SBDs, shooting them all down for no loss. I'm getting lots of elite pilots. I'll replace some of them with pilots in the low to mid 70s when I get back to port.

In the afternoon, 9 Judies went after a small TF at Madang, putting 2x 250kg bombs into an APA there. I detached 3 Kongos to bombard the place and clean out any shipping tomorrow.

Ted spread his bombers around hitting troops today. Not much in the way of casualties, but their disruption and fatigue is climbing.

SRA
Burma

Nothing to report.

China

Well the vaunted first bombardment of Chungking happened. It took an hour to run! Is that normal. I had some other programs open at the time but that seemed excessive. Next turn, everything will be shut down. Here's the only time I'm going to post the whole thing, just so you can see what's there:

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 157837 troops, 1654 guns, 922 vehicles, Assault Value = 5541

Defending force 379454 troops, 1214 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14647

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
17th Division
34th Division
15th Division
116th Division
39th Division
6th Division
104th Division
27th Division
22nd Division
110th Division
40th Division
41st Division
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Army
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Army
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
13th Army
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
39th Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
62nd Chinese Corps
31st Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
80th Chinese Corps
55th Prov Chinese Division
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
7th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
64th Chinese Corps
17th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
9th Separate Brigade
98th Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
8th Prov Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
3rd Prov Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
85th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
259th Brigade
9th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
35th Chinese Corps
22nd Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
77th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
47th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
97th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
13th Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps
1st Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps
81st Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
1st New Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
61st Chinese Corps
23rd Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps
43rd Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Division
48th Chinese Corps
15th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
57th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Division
17th Construction Regiment
22nd Group Army
14th Group Army
12th Chinese Base Force
9th Group Army
China Command
14th Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
20th Artillery Regiment
8th War Area
19th Group Army
23rd Group Army
1st War Area
4th Construction Regiment
38th Group Army
8th Construction Regiment
3rd Chinese Base Force
5th Construction Regiment
13th Construction Regiment
NCAC
20th Chinese Base Force
1st Construction Regiment
9th War Area
57th AT Gun Regiment
21st Group Army
3rd War Area
7th Chinese Base Force
19th Chinese Base Force
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment
10th Construction Regiment
7th Construction Regiment
2nd Construction Regiment
Lusu War Area
4th Group Army
9th Chinese Base Force
10th Chinese Base Force
8th Chinese Base Force
4th War Area
17th Group Army
30th Group Army
35th Group Army
36th Group Army
15th Chinese Base Force
2nd Group Army
Jingcha War Area
7th Group Army
6th Group Army
17th Chinese Base Force
16th Group Army
5th Chinese Base Force
Red Chinese Army
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
18th Artillery Regiment
16th Chinese Base Force
60th Chinese Corps
13th Group Army
5th Group Army
3rd Group Army
CAF HQ
41st AA Regiment
15th Group Army
34th Group Army
1st Chinese Base Force
2nd Chinese Base Force
Central Reserve
13th Chinese Base Force
Y' Force
29th Group Army
14th Construction Regiment
31st Group Army
1st Group Army
24th Group Army
18th Group Army
6th Chinese Base Force
5th War Area
37th Group Army
27th Group Army
3rd Construction Regiment
10th Group Army
8th Group Army
39th Group Army
49th AA Regiment
21st Chinese Base Force
6th Construction Regiment
2nd War Area
12th Construction Regiment
4th Chinese Base Force
7th Artillery Regiment
56th AT Gun Regiment

Pretty anti-climactic, if you ask me.

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Reinforcement: SC Cha-63, ASW

The B6N2a R&D advanced to 6/44 (will become operational in 12/43). 3x30

Not a bad day overall. More cuts.

We'll see what tomorrow brings. Just waiting for the turn now.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 2:07:54 PM

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Even as Japan, I hit the "Esc" to fast forward through long, long ground combat. Sometimes even for A2A and ship vs ship.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 2:15:55 PM

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I tried that, Michael. Didn't work. I suspect I had too many programs running. Never had that problem before.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 2:18:30 PM

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I'm going to start buying out training fighter sentai from the Home Islands and Manchuoko to move to my main oil producing bases. They'll still train, but they'll do the final portion of the training to get defense up. So they'll have 50+ (usually 60+) experience and 70+ air skill with defense approaching 70+.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 2:18:52 PM

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Hit 'esc' ONLY once.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 2:20:13 PM

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Ok, I'll try that. How did you know?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 3:13:34 PM

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While doing your orders, hit the "P" button and adjust your various replay speeds using left and right clicks.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 3:17:24 PM

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Arrow button on the right hand corner works too, hit it once with the mouse.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 4:25:22 PM

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Yeah, I think the issue was too many things open coupled with the bombardment from hell along with me hitting escape and the arrow button multiple times.

Still waiting for the turn too.

I took a look at my training sentai/daitai that are available to change to an unrestricted HQ.

I have 7 IJAAF sentai in Manchuoko, 2 IJAAF sentai in the Home Islands, 2 IJAAF sentai in China and 5 IJNAF daitai in the Home Islands.

Here are the oil fields I'd like some fighter cover on:

Medan (210)
Palembang (900 oil)
Djambi (250)
Soerabaja (190)
Balikpapan (300)
Tarakan (90)
Miri (300)

I'd like 3 at Palembang plus 1 at each of the others for a total of 9 units. That ain't happening, so I'll decide what to move and prioritize. I rearranged the list in priority (sort of).

I'm thinking initially to pull 4 sentai from Manchuoko, 1 from China and 2 daitai from the Home Islands for 7 for starters. What do you guys think?

Edit: This doesn't include those units that are unable to change HQ.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 4:34:40 PM

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Sentai, Daitai, Maitai...what's the difference?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 4:49:30 PM

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You can use some of your FFs (Rufe/Rex) at those bases with some disbanded AVs.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 4:51:29 PM

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Sentai, Daitai, Maitai...what's the difference?

Back in the WitP days, IJAAF were sentai and IJNAF were daitai. Just never got out of the habit.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 4:54:39 PM

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You can use some of your FFs (Rufe/Rex) at those bases with some disbanded AVs.

Good idea. I never think of them. I have 7 or 8 Rex in the pool right now. I'm pretty sure all of the bases have AS. I'm making a comprehensive list plus all the reinforcements I'll get through the end of 1943. I'll add the FF to the list.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 5:43:30 PM

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Not sure about all those Fighter Groups ... once you get your perimeter secure, then the only attack can come from allied CV's until the B29's arrive and get in range. The LBA threat is calculable. Having all of those groups sitting doing nothing for months ... I would agree with Michael on this. Small groups of Rufe's, which can be training pilots most of the time ... I like to keep my fighter groups active to maximize my air ratios ...

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 6:29:06 PM

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Couple that with the fact that some of my planes are SR3,

I think the key to keeping these guys in the air is lots of AS at their bases. I mean excess, as much as you can. Anyone else? Please if I'm wrong here let me know.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 6:36:33 PM

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You can use some of your FFs (Rufe/Rex) at those bases with some disbanded AVs.

I like to keep some Nick's back there as well. I usually convert some of the small single engine bomber groups (the 9 or 12's, 90 or 120 PP's) for this purpose. Heck they'll cost you 75 PP's to convert to twin engine bombers anyway. BTW, I don't build any single engine bombers from day one. There are enough around at the start of the game for my purposes.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 6:43:04 PM

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The invasion of Tabiteuea finally commenced.

Mike, been thinking about this and I have to say I like your aggressiveness. To my thinking doing nothing here is just inviting Ted to use another approach into the 'Empire'. Especially while you have your hands full in the SE Fleet region. Not that he won't be back, but as you say... Delay, delay, delay. If nothing else it'll teach him to jump big or stay home.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/25/2018 7:04:49 PM

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Not sure about all those Fighter Groups ... once you get your perimeter secure, then the only attack can come from allied CV's until the B29's arrive and get in range. The LBA threat is calculable. Having all of those groups sitting doing nothing for months ... I would agree with Michael on this. Small groups of Rufe's, which can be training pilots most of the time ... I like to keep my fighter groups active to maximize my air ratios ...

If I do this, those fighter groups would not be just sitting around. They'd be training, just as they are now. They'd just have better planes than Nates and Claudes. I need to look at the Allied bombers and see what their ranges are. I also need to see when the B-29s begin to arrive, but I'm sure Ted will make that painfully aware.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/26/2018 2:56:41 AM

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Not sure about all those Fighter Groups ... once you get your perimeter secure, then the only attack can come from allied CV's until the B29's arrive and get in range. The LBA threat is calculable. Having all of those groups sitting doing nothing for months ... I would agree with Michael on this. Small groups of Rufe's, which can be training pilots most of the time ... I like to keep my fighter groups active to maximize my air ratios ...

If I do this, those fighter groups would not be just sitting around. They'd be training, just as they are now. They'd just have better planes than Nates and Claudes. I need to look at the Allied bombers and see what their ranges are. I also need to see when the B-29s begin to arrive, but I'm sure Ted will make that painfully aware.

Understood, but I would prefer to use lesser aircraft for training and lesser groups also if possible. Full size fighter groups (say +32) are just so valuable at the front ... assuming you can equip them with 1st rate fighters, which you can ...

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/27/2018 12:32:23 AM

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Even as Japan, I hit the "Esc" to fast forward through long, long ground combat. Sometimes even for A2A and ship vs ship.

If goes even faster if you push escape, click into another window, wait a second (or probably 2 for one of this size), and come back in.

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