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RE: 1944 July 26 - 7/29/2015 12:20:03 PM   
Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Drakanel

Poor BB Washington, she didn't make it. A pity that.



Nonsense, she went down fighting during the game changing battles of Cam Ranh Bay that saw Japan crushed. Really, the only significant loss to the Allies.

Now it is a pity that the Allies didn't get to Vinh sooner. But, it will be a bigger pity if Japan has not defended there in depth...

Although, with so many bases to launch invasions from against the coast of China...Vinh might become just another bypassed pocket.




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RE: 1944 July 26 - 7/29/2015 1:39:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Nonsense, she went down fighting during the game changing battles of Cam Ranh Bay that saw Japan crushed. Really, the only significant loss to the Allies.


Actually, she went down because she was mistakenly sent in without air support and was hit by kamikaze. She didn't fight at all That's why it's a pity


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Now it is a pity that the Allies didn't get to Vinh sooner. But, it will be a bigger pity if Japan has not defended there in depth...

Although, with so many bases to launch invasions from against the coast of China...Vinh might become just another bypassed pocket.


Not disagreeing but... does it really matter to the allies? I mean, I can understand what was done here, getting Saigon and Bangkok first... I'm a newbie but strategically speaking I would have probably done the same. Also because once that area falls, all the troops that were in the Moulmein area are free to march either east towards china or south towards Singapore... Basically you don't even have to conquer Singapore to send in troops from the india/burma area to other theatres

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1944 July 27 - 7/29/2015 8:44:27 PM   
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The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Pagan

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:



Naval Bombardments:
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Allied Ships Bombarding Pagan
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu


Our subs only had ASW scuffles.

Quiet in China but tomorrow we will attack SW of Mengtze.

Troops at Bangkok are making their recovery but need at least another day. Tomorrow our lead units in the pursuit will attack mid way between Pisanuloke and Ayuthia. Our LRP Bde made it to defensive positions across the river from Chiang Mai one day before the IJA 146th IR made the crossing.
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Ground combat at 59,54 (near Chiang Mai)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3134 troops, 31 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 74

Defending force 2849 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 104

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 358

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
546 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
146th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
14th LRP Brigade


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There is a Japanese unit moving north on road up the peninsula toward Bangkok. Probably the same unit that has been in position there to hold open the door, they might be trying to trap our units in Bangkok without supply. No worries, more Allied units will probably arrive before them and an armoured unit could always be spared to stop them anyway.

The final defensive position on the southern road into Battambang will be assaulted tomorrow by the full force advancing to that city. Coordinated air strikes on those positions are running into Imperial CAP from Battambang! 44 fighters there. Measures will be taken. The support unit near Pakse has been contacted by an infantry Bde and will be attacked tomorrow. North of Hue our armour will rest again, but not to wait for the infantry (which is still on the way). Instead, the USA TD Bn (now cutting the cross roads 2 hexes WSW from Vinh) will leave in 2 or 3 days to get behind the retreating units so they can be trapped against the coast and destroyed.

Vinh itself will not be bypassed. Strong armored units will circle behind it and flank it while the infantry and some armour attack from the front. The defenders will be cut off so they can be destroyed entirely. At Vinh presently are 5 units, 21,120 troops, 87 guns. Seen at Lang Son (presumed passing through there) are 3 units 14,300 troops, 57 guns. Let them all make their way to Vinh!

Our troops at Dili are recovering. Ternate sees exchanged bombardments. On Borneo our IR has completed combat and will resume marching. Pagan folded quickly, certainly due to the months-long aerial and naval bombardments.
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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4797 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 229

Defending force 4412 troops, 154 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Assaulting units:
12th Garrison Unit
34th Ind Engineer Regiment
51st Field AA Battalion
11th Special Base Force
70th JAAF AF Bn
2nd JNAF AF Unit
72nd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
31st Infantry Regiment
260th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion


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Ground combat at 62,97 (near Balikpapan)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3484 troops, 48 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 104

Defending force 81 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 98

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 98 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
I/81st Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1002 troops, 102 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Defending force 11511 troops, 92 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 229

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit
34th Ind Engineer Regiment
51st Field AA Battalion
70th JAAF AF Bn
2nd JNAF AF Unit
11th Special Base Force
72nd JAAF AF Bn


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Ground combat at Pagan (110,89)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12546 troops, 113 guns, 140 vehicles, Assault Value = 474

Defending force 5710 troops, 83 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 43

Allied adjusted assault: 353

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 353 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied forces CAPTURE Pagan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1161 casualties reported
Squads: 45 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 45 (45 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (25 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
12th NZ Brigade
2nd Regiment
11th NZ Brigade
Fiji Brigade

Defending units:
15th Division
41st Infantry Regiment
17th Army


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No B-29 flights today either, but there were severe storms over the target.

Indochina, et al.




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RE: 1944 July 27 - 7/29/2015 8:45:08 PM   
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RE: 1944 July 27 - 7/29/2015 8:45:28 PM   
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RE: 1944 July 27 - 7/29/2015 11:16:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		3698 strategic VP for 4 B29 raids...thankfully, once the easy factories burn off it does get harder.


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RE: 1944 July 27 - 7/30/2015 12:33:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

3698 strategic VP for 4 B29 raids...thankfully, once the easy factories burn off it does get harder.



What do you consider to be the easy factories & what makes them easy compared to the others?

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RE: 1944 July 27 - 7/30/2015 12:52:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		You get decreasing returns on your manpower attacks...the first fires are always the worst. It is also very difficult to get the fires to wipe out factories other than LI or HI...not impossible, but random hard.

Still, the point multiplier for burnt out factories is huge making manpower attacks very attractive.






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RE: 1944 July 27 - 7/30/2015 1:35:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK. That's stuff I appreciated already, so no surprise. I was worried there was something I was completely overlooking! The big targets hit so far still have an overwhelming percentage of Manpower intact, so I think it'll be a while before the impact gets severe.

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1944 July 28 - 7/31/2015 6:06:35 PM   
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The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:



Naval Bombardments:
quote:




Our subs saw nothing and said nothing.

The attack in China went without air support but results were OK. The next assault will be timed so that they get the B-24 horde in support.
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Ground combat at 67,51 (near Mengtze)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16935 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 485

Defending force 4401 troops, 34 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 141

Allied adjusted assault: 135

Japanese adjusted defense: 448

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
290 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
50th Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Cavalry Division
78th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
104th/B Division


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Some Imperial units between Pisanuloke and Ayuthia were destroyed but one remains blocking the road. Tomorrow's attack will include 4 Allied units as opposed to only 2 today.
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Ground combat at 57,59 (near Pisanuloke)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1403 troops, 0 guns, 184 vehicles, Assault Value = 249

Defending force 2032 troops, 35 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied adjusted assault: 82

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 82 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1698 casualties reported
Squads: 101 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 128 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 51 (51 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Assaulting units:
150th RAC Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment

Defending units:
3rd RTA Division
2nd RTA/C Division
Burma Area Army
I./143rd Infantry Battalion
4th RTA Division


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Two infantry units have arrived at the front on the road south from Taung Gyi so will join the armoured cars in attacking tomorrow. Our troops at Bangkok are well recovered and will now seek to take the city. Moulmein has built out to a size 9 airfield complex and most of the 4EB horde will transfer there from Akyab when the weather improves. Rangoon is a size 9 port and shall expand its airfields.

The support unit near Pakse was routed again but refuses to disperse. In contrast, the enemy units near Battambang were destroyed.
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Ground combat at 64,64 (near Pakse)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4365 troops, 74 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Defending force 861 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 30

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
324 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
27th Australian Brigade

Defending units:
28th Air Flotilla


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Ground combat at 58,66 (near Battambang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26534 troops, 360 guns, 380 vehicles, Assault Value = 863

Defending force 1170 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Allied adjusted assault: 738

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 738 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1216 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 96 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
2nd Australian Division
32nd Infantry Division
4th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
78th Infantry Regiment
12th Port Unit
15th JAAF AF Bn


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There is now movement seen leaving Vinh toward the north. An additional Imperial unit of undetermined nature has been spotted just west of Vinh. Possibly DAW HQ has realized that we have the resources to surround Vinh and will pull back before we can do so. Two infantry divisions and two armored battalions are now on the road (strategic movement) to Udon Thani and should arrive there in 5 days or less barring interference. Quinhon air base is size 3 + 83% and expansion is rapid. More engineers are on the way to keep up the pace, as are a number of base units for that field and the ones to the north so support the drive into China.

Our assault transports brought the Torres Strait Bn to Brunei as mentioned earlier, and the transports were on their way before dawn. Unseen, an IJN force made a dash to intercept them! Fortunately the Japanese warships were intercepted by escorts. Unfortunately most of those escorts were escort carriers. The aircraft came from Jesselton.
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Miri at 65,86, Range 25,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
DD Teruzuki, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Makinami, Shell hits 1
DD Shigure, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CVE Nassau, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Altamaha, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
CVE Copahee, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Breton, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Prince William, Shell hits 5, on fire
CVE Barnes, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Long Island, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Bush, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Conner, Shell hits 1
DD Conway, Shell hits 2
DD Trathen, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Long Island at 25,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Trathen at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Long Island at 20,000 yards
DD Trathen engages DD Shigure at 20,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Copahee at 20,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Conway at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Barnes at 16,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Prince William at 16,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Copahee at 16,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Trathen at 16,000 yards
DD Conway engages DD Teruzuki at 16,000 yards
DD Bush engages DD Shigure at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Long Island at 13,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Barnes at 13,000 yards
DD Conway engages DD Makinami at 13,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Trathen at 13,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Altamaha at 13,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Nassau at 13,000 yards
DD Conway engages DD Teruzuki at 13,000 yards
DD Bush engages DD Teruzuki at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Long Island at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Barnes at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Breton at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Copahee at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Altamaha at 12,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Trathen at 12,000 yards
DD Conner engages DD Teruzuki at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Long Island at 9,000 yards
DD Conner engages DD Shigure at 9,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Conner at 9,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Conner at 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Copahee at 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Altamaha at 9,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Nassau at 9,000 yards
DD Conway engages DD Shigure at 9,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Bush at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Long Island at 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Barnes at 11,000 yards
DD Bush engages DD Makinami at 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Breton at 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Altamaha at 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Nassau at 11,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Conner at 11,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Bush at 11,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Long Island at 11,000 yards
DD Conner engages DD Shigure at 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Prince William at 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Breton at 11,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Nassau at 11,000 yards
DD Trathen engages DD Makinami at 11,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Conner at 11,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Bush at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Bush at 10,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Barnes at 10,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Conner at 10,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Breton at 10,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Copahee at 10,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Nassau at 10,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Trathen at 10,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Conner at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Long Island at 7,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Conner at 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Prince William at 7,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Trathen at 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Nassau at 7,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Conway at 7,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Conner at 7,000 yards
DD Bush engages DD Shigure at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
DD Makinami engages CVE Prince William at 9,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Breton at 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Altamaha at 9,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Nassau at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes , CVE Prince William ,
CVE Breton , CVE Copahee screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
DD Makinami engages CVE Altamaha at 13,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Nassau at 13,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Nassau at 13,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages CVE Nassau at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes , CVE Prince William ,
CVE Breton screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
DD Shigure engages CVE Copahee at 15,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Altamaha at 15,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages CVE Altamaha at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Barnes at 16,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Prince William at 16,000 yards
DD Conner engages DD Teruzuki at 16,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Conway at 16,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Conner at 16,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
CA Mikuma engages CVE Breton at 16,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Breton at 16,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
CA Mikuma engages CVE Breton at 16,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Nassau at 16,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages CVE Nassau at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
DD Shigure engages CVE Copahee at 15,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Copahee at 15,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Altamaha at 15,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Nassau at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes , CVE Prince William screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
DD Makinami engages CVE Breton at 14,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Nassau at 14,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Altamaha at 14,000 yards
DD Makinami engages CVE Nassau at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Bush at 15,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages CVE Long Island at 15,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Copahee at 15,000 yards
DD Trathen engages DD Teruzuki at 15,000 yards
DD Makinami engages DD Conway at 15,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Conner at 15,000 yards
DD Bush engages DD Teruzuki at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes , CVE Prince William screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
DD Teruzuki engages CVE Breton at 14,000 yards
DD Shigure engages CVE Copahee at 14,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages CVE Altamaha at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Bush at 17,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages CVE Prince William at 17,000 yards
DD Bush engages DD Teruzuki at 17,000 yards
DD Shigure engages DD Trathen at 17,000 yards
DD Conway engages DD Makinami at 17,000 yards
Sakiyama, Shakao orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 20,000 yards
Range increases to 22,000 yards
CVE Long Island , CVE Barnes , CVE Prince William ,
CVE Breton , CVE Copahee , CVE Altamaha screened from combat
- escorted by DD Trathen , DD Conway , DD Conner ,
DD Bush
Range increases to 25,000 yards
Range increases to 28,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,85

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 15
SBD-5 Dauntless x 34

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 12 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Makinami, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CA Mikuma, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Mikuma
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Makinami


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,85

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 8

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shigure, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,85

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 18

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Teruzuki, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Shigure, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.



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IJN CA must be the most combat efficient ships in the game. Crikey!

The situations at Dili and Ternate continue to develop slowly, and Pagan is secured.
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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4779 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 226

Defending force 4418 troops, 154 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Assaulting units:
12th Garrison Unit
34th Ind Engineer Regiment
51st Field AA Battalion
70th JAAF AF Bn
2nd JNAF AF Unit
11th Special Base Force
72nd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
31st Infantry Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1008 troops, 102 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Defending force 11484 troops, 92 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 226

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit
34th Ind Engineer Regiment
2nd JNAF AF Unit
51st Field AA Battalion
70th JAAF AF Bn
11th Special Base Force
72nd JAAF AF Bn


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Ground combat at Pagan (110,89)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12525 troops, 114 guns, 140 vehicles, Assault Value = 471

Defending force 4494 troops, 46 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Allied adjusted assault: 219

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 219 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5255 casualties reported
Squads: 301 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 369 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 50 (50 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Assaulting units:
12th NZ Brigade
11th NZ Brigade
2nd Regiment
Fiji Brigade

Defending units:
15th Division
17th Army
41st Infantry Regiment


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The B-29-1 groups from Saipan finally flew, and the defensive air cover was well replenished. We lost 29 of the valuable flying ships, but achieved much better hits. Little shows on recon now, but I am looking forward to seeing recon results in the coming days.
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Morning Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 17
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 37

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 5 destroyed, 21 damaged

Manpower hits 4
Fires 1420

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Shoho-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
19th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 20 on standby, 8 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes

Banzai! - Kimiyama C. in a Ki-44-IIa Tojo rams a B-29-1 Superfort for the Emperor


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Morning Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 10
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 18 damaged

Manpower hits 41
Fires 10454

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Shoho-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
19th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

Training flight from Shoho-1 has been caught up in attack


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Morning Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 11

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 16
Fires 17359

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 15000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Shoho-1 with J2M2 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes



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The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Bangkok

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:



Naval Bombardments:
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Peleliu


Our subs are really, really getting antsy.

Quiet in China.

Some cleanup on the road. The noose is a little tighter up near Chiang Mai. Bangkok is ours!
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Ground combat at 57,59 (near Pisanuloke)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5277 troops, 52 guns, 447 vehicles, Assault Value = 253

Defending force 291 troops, 0 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 219

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 219 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (12 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
268th Motorised Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment

Defending units:
Burma Area Army


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Ground combat at 61,51 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7816 troops, 15 guns, 106 vehicles, Assault Value = 378

Defending force 1470 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Allied adjusted assault: 294

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 42 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
691 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Burma Brigade
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
209th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
200th Chinese Division

Defending units:
2nd RTA/A Division


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Ground combat at Bangkok (56,62)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32517 troops, 355 guns, 1451 vehicles, Assault Value = 1369

Defending force 9467 troops, 128 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Allied adjusted assault: 1407

Japanese adjusted defense: 21

Allied assault odds: 67 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Bangkok !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5586 casualties reported
Squads: 285 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 130 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 127 (103 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
18th Cavalry Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
255th Indian Tank Brigade
4th Marine Division
50th Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
192nd Tank Battalion
Provisionl Tank Brigade
82nd (West African) Division

Defending units:
64th Inf Group Brigade
7th RTA/B Division
2nd RTA/B Division
7th RTA/C Division
4th Tank Regiment
38th/A Division
Thai Aviation Coy
Royal Thai Army
48th JNAF AF Unit
7th RTA/A Division


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There will be two attacks tomorrow in the countryside near Udon Thani.

Mikuma was chased a long way - our destroyers escaped the notice of air strikes.
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 54,87, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 15, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Swanson, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Duncan
DD Bailey, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Thompson, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 28,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Shannon M. crosses the 'T'
Range closes to 16,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Duncan at 16,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Thompson at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Bailey at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Thompson at 10,000 yards
DD Bailey engages CA Mikuma at 10,000 yards
DD Duncan engages CA Mikuma at 10,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Bailey at 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Duncan at 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Thompson at 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Bailey at 7,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Bailey at 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Duncan at 9,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Thompson at 12,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Thompson at 18,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Duncan at 18,000 yards
CA Mikuma engages DD Swanson at 18,000 yards
Range increases to 25,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Crippled destroyers from yesterday were dispatched.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Jesselton at 67,82

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 15
SBD-5 Dauntless x 30

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shigure, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Makinami, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Shigure
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese APD


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Jesselton at 67,82

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 8

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shigure, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Jesselton at 67,82

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 3 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Makinami, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.



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Dili and Ternate continue as before.
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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4771 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 226

Defending force 4425 troops, 154 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
12th Garrison Unit
34th Ind Engineer Regiment
11th Special Base Force
70th JAAF AF Bn
2nd JNAF AF Unit
51st Field AA Battalion
72nd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
31st Infantry Regiment
148th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1002 troops, 102 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Defending force 11468 troops, 92 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 226

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit
34th Ind Engineer Regiment
2nd JNAF AF Unit
51st Field AA Battalion
70th JAAF AF Bn
11th Special Base Force
72nd JAAF AF Bn


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Status: offline 		Yeowch..... so much damage from a single CA... do they mount railguns? You can obviously afford it considering the date and everything else, but still it's a pity. I imagine that TF came from Singapore?

Also, a completely uneducated guess if I may. Regarding those B29... losses seems pretty high. Are those losses due to fighters or flak? If the second... perhaps trying to fly higher might be good? I mean, you did lose quite a few of them... Maybe trying to set altitude to 20k or 25k could reduce the amount of flak they face significantly.

Also, congratulations on taking Bangkok!

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What a great battle report! Well, from a JFB point of view.

Holy, B29 losses. You are flying them into weak fighters (only 2 cannons per ftr) wait till you fly into something better.

Great updates, lots happening, and Japan can still surprise!

PS: Congrats on taking Bangkok!




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Banzai, Mikuma, Banzai!

What a great battle report! Well, from a JFB point of view.


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Holy, B29 losses. You are flying them into weak fighters (only 2 cannons per ftr) wait till you fly into something better.

Great updates, lots happening, and Japan can still surprise!

PS: Congrats on taking Bangkok!




Thanks! Walter said that he has some pretty good pilots there in the Tojos and they actually missed an upgrade to Franks. I imagine they would have done better in Franks?!

The way I look at it the losses now are an investment as long as I am knocking down meaningful industries. I figure that getting a lot of LI and HI will reduce supply available to the Empire. The factories of various sorts are certainly good but at the moment I want to put a big dent in supply for sure.

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Yeowch..... so much damage from a single CA... do they mount railguns? You can obviously afford it considering the date and everything else, but still it's a pity. I imagine that TF came from Singapore?

Also, a completely uneducated guess if I may. Regarding those B29... losses seems pretty high. Are those losses due to fighters or flak? If the second... perhaps trying to fly higher might be good? I mean, you did lose quite a few of them... Maybe trying to set altitude to 20k or 25k could reduce the amount of flak they face significantly.

Also, congratulations on taking Bangkok!

Thanks!

Almost all of the losses these past two bloodbaths were from air to air (check the air losses graphics I posted). I think I am OK on altitude vs flak at the moment. Maybe when he deploys a bunch of bigger flak guns that will have to change.

I don't even know if that TF came from Singapore or Manila - that's how un-spotted they were - but I'm guessing it came from Singapore.

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Apart from a possible big repair shipyard close to the action (Singapore or Hong Kong? Doubt he has expanded Manila), which I imagine you would not mind, is there something else/some other base you feel you really NEED in order to further your strategy? Just curious.

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I have a question about your strategy if you don't mind. I know your next big target is okinawa, both for the strategic bombers you can house there in order to directly hit the home islands and because you can use that base to almost completely isolate the home islands from shippings and such as well (I would imagine once you take Okinawa, the only possible shipping he can do will be from Korea...)

Apart from a possible big repair shipyard close to the action (Singapore or Hong Kong? Doubt he has expanded Manila), which I imagine you would not mind, is there something else/some other base you feel you really NEED in order to further your strategy? Just curious.

Well, "need", maybe not. Others have hit some sizable islands nearer to Korea, so I suppose even Okinawa could be neutralized and bypassed. I've included Okinawa for the reasons you stated plus it will support an invasion of Kyushu. I have units prepared for (I think) all the smaller islands surrounding Okinawa, so it will be a big base complex even though most bases will be smaller than Naha and Nago.

I mentioned more recently that I've decided to also invade Formosa. I'm betting that the need to reinforce China after the Allies have trapped and destroyed/are destroying so many combat units will result in a much smaller garrison on Formosa than I would otherwise find there. Most of those forces will be divisions and armor that was 'lent' to SEAC by SoPac and PacAO. They (presumably) won't be needed for the Okinawa region campaign as a full complement is already prepared.

The troops for Okinawa are ready to go, the transports are pretty much ready, I am just waiting on warship repairs and upgrades as I expect a crap-storm of kamikazes in that region. One thing I have not yet decided on is Daito Shoto. I do plan to capture it and have forces prepared. The question is: do that before Okinawa, or suppress it by air and move directly to Okinawa to achieve better tactical surprise?

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I mentioned more recently that I've decided to also invade Formosa. I'm betting that the need to reinforce China after the Allies have trapped and destroyed/are destroying so many combat units will result in a much smaller garrison on Formosa than I would otherwise find there. Most of those forces will be divisions and armor that was 'lent' to SEAC by SoPac and PacAO. They (presumably) won't be needed for the Okinawa region campaign as a full complement is already prepared.


Oh I missed that part about Formosa. I think it would be nice if you take it. Though well, I think that if you take Okinawa, Formosa will not be a critical gain for you because a properly reinforced Okinawa will still be a considerable interdiction platform against Japan. But still it will be nice and useful in further isolating mainland china at least. Or as a support against a possible invasion of Hong Kong, if you ever go there.

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The troops for Okinawa are ready to go, the transports are pretty much ready, I am just waiting on warship repairs and upgrades as I expect a crap-storm of kamikazes in that region. One thing I have not yet decided on is Daito Shoto. I do plan to capture it and have forces prepared. The question is: do that before Okinawa, or suppress it by air and move directly to Okinawa to achieve better tactical surprise?


I would go for Okinawa first, 100%. Undoubtedly he has planned for a possible invasion on all the Japanese islands, but still. If you go for Daito Shoto first, you may give him those 2-3 days of advance warning he could perhaps use to move more forces to protect okinawa. I'd go for Okinawa first, because unless the mod you use is very different from stock, as a base Daito Shoto is a lot less valuable for you. Think of how much you surprised him in thailand/indochina. Even a very partial surprise in your move for Okinawa could be a great gain for you, I think.

Again, barring something noobish I'm not considering

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Status: offline 		Thanks. Daito Shoto can also be shut down by B-29 so no naval bombardments are wasted when they are needed most at Okinawa.

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Thanks. Daito Shoto can also be shut down by B-29 so no naval bombardments are wasted when they are needed most at Okinawa.


Waste of B29s I think.

How many combat B29 squadrons do you have in striking range of the Empire? What are their sizes in planes?

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