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RE: 1944 August 02 - 8/6/2015 2:54:32 AM   
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RE: 1944 August 02 - 8/6/2015 2:55:06 AM   
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CVE Breton. I've put her in a TF with 3x DD to see if they can put out the fires.




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RE: 1944 August 02 - 8/6/2015 2:55:27 AM   
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These groups will descend upon the skies over Hanoi tomorrow.




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RE: 1944 July 31 - 8/6/2015 2:55:53 AM   
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There is a faint sign of life for Breton. Fires dropped four points in the last turn while system damage went up one. If the pace of fire fighting success can continue to accelerate it may just get them out before hitting the magic 100 system damage when the toilets let sea water come in geysers ...




Edit: My comment about fires dropping was for the turn before - did not know there was more on the next page ...

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RE: 1944 August 01 - 8/6/2015 2:57:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Ulithi. I just replaced this CO with Colonel T. Shoji. I'm not sure if that's a good thing...





(Aporogies to Cap Mandrake-san for bratent pragiarism)
What-ah make witpqs-san think not a good thing? Just because Shoji-san have thick grasses and speak with funny accent and have even tan auhh over - even in winter, not-ah mean he not great guy!

Bugger loaded up the troops and he's heading for Guam!!!

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RE: 1944 July 31 - 8/6/2015 3:51:55 AM   
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There is a faint sign of life for Breton. Fires dropped four points in the last turn while system damage went up one. If the pace of fire fighting success can continue to accelerate it may just get them out before hitting the magic 100 system damage when the toilets let sea water come in geysers ...




Edit: My comment about fires dropping was for the turn before - did not know there was more on the next page ...

Yeah, 61 is still raging fires! Oh well.

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RE: 1944 August 02 - 8/6/2015 12:59:17 PM   
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Is that a boost in fighters at Osaka? Looks like he is getting more prepared there.



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RE: 1944 August 02 - 8/7/2015 11:41:22 PM   
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Is that a boost in fighters at Osaka? Looks like he is getting more prepared there.




Definitely!

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1944 August 03 - 8/7/2015 11:41:57 PM   
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1944 August 03

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Battambang

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Lautem

Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Dili
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu


Our subs saw no action.

Quiet in China.

More grinding on the troops trapped near Chiang Mai, and on the troops out of Mergui crossing the jungle.
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Ground combat at 59,54 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23657 troops, 401 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 561

Defending force 11656 troops, 152 guns, 77 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Allied adjusted assault: 217

Japanese adjusted defense: 127

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
575 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
14th LRP Brigade
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
14th Division
146th Infantry Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at 53,63 (near Mergui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12975 troops, 249 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 321

Defending force 4917 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Allied adjusted assault: 146

Japanese adjusted defense: 76

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
520 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
26th Indian Division

Defending units:
9th Infantry Regiment
8th Field Construction Battalion
311th Ship Eng Coy
211th Ship Eng Coy
91st JAAF AF Bn
8th JAAF AF Coy
9th JAAF AF Coy


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Both attacks shall continue tomorrow.

The cooks and carpenters hold again north of Udon Thani but see AV cut by 70%, the trapped enemy near the coast is almost wiped out by an armoured Rgt, and Battambang is yielded by stubborn defenders.
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Ground combat at 62,58 (near Udon Thani)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 534 troops, 3 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 44

Defending force 1451 troops, 10 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied adjusted assault: 8

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
4th Naval Construction Battalion
41st JAAF AF Bn


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Ground combat at 66,62 (near Hue)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 576 troops, 0 guns, 108 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Defending force 742 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 62

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 62 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
711 casualties reported
Squads: 61 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2/5th Armoured Regiment
503rd Parachute Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade

Defending units:
110th/B Division


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Ground combat at Battambang (58,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26852 troops, 360 guns, 485 vehicles, Assault Value = 873

Defending force 10011 troops, 117 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 108

Allied adjusted assault: 613

Japanese adjusted defense: 153

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Battambang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4074 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 174 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 39 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 34 (29 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 77 (77 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
2nd Australian Division
2/6th Armoured Regiment
4th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
9th Division
29th JNAF AF Unit
25th Army
26th Air Flotilla
20th AA Regiment
59th JNAF AF Unit


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Tomorrow's attack on the coast will add an infantry Bde and Rgt. The Imperials at Battambang took the road to Ayuthia and illusory safety. SWPac forces will chase them all the way to just outside Ayuthia before SEAC forces advance into that city.

Quinhon is now a size 7 airfield, +4% toward size 8. 48% build was made this past day. Although building slows as the size increases, tomorrow a base force and another engineering unit will land via amphibious convoy and so we might keep up this prodigious rate of expansion a while longer. Plenty of air support is already in place for the B-24 groups and other 4EB with SEAC (which will operate 4EB from Quinhon), so the expansion of the base will present a smooth transition to moving the aerial offensive forward when a number of B-29 groups move into Moulmein as the B-24 groups leave there.

Target: Hanoi CAP!
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Morning Air attack on Hanoi , at 68,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 111

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt I x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt I: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(23 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 23 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 23 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
47th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 21 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hanoi , at 68,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 92

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt I x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Thunderbolt I sweeping at 37000 feet

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 17 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
47th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (2 airborne, 8 on standby, 18 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 35514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hanoi , at 68,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 65

Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 31514.
Raid is overhead
47th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 35514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 36514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hanoi , at 68,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 38

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet

CAP engaged:
47th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
25th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hanoi , at 68,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 35000 feet

CAP engaged:
25th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 38514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
47th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hanoi , at 68,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 40,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 37000 feet

CAP engaged:
47th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hanoi , at 68,56

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 25

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-51B Mustang sweeping at 37000 feet



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The P-38 groups at Quinhon did not fly, likely due to weather. The day's score for just the weeps looks to be 66 to 25. The Thunderbolt I groups are standing down due to high fatigue and (in one case) losses while the rest of the squadrons remain with attack orders. Rain is forecast tomorrow throughout the region, but there are still 50 fighters seen by recon over Hanoi.

CVE Breton went down fighting.
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Fires damage engines aboard CVE Breton ...
Damage Control efforts fail and CVE Breton is abandoned


The naval bombardment of Ternate was accurate and damaging, but did not lead to an effective land bombardment, so likely the troops there are tough and well fortified. Empty Lautem is invaded, but Dili holds. The damage done to the defenders is certainly weakening their position. The Imperial garrison at Peleliu is only several hundred and I would prefer to capture the base without landing, but a commando Bn is preparing.
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Night Naval bombardment of Ulithi at 98,97

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes
CA San Francisco
CA Astoria
CA Portland

Japanese ground losses:
344 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled

Port hits 14
Port supply hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Vincennes
CA Vincennes firing at Ulithi
SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA San Francisco
CA San Francisco firing at 5th Infantry Regiment
CA Astoria firing at Ulithi
CA Portland firing at Ulithi


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Night Naval bombardment of Ternate at 78,102

Allied Ships
CA Baltimore

Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 23
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Baltimore
CA Baltimore firing at Ternate


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Night Naval bombardment of Dili at 71,115

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter
DD Van Ghent
DD Banckert
DD Van Nes
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen
DD Piet Hein

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for CL De Ruyter
CL De Ruyter firing at 24th Nav Gsn Unit
DD Van Ghent firing at 24th Nav Gsn Unit
DD Banckert firing at Dili
DD Van Nes firing at 57th Infantry Regiment
DD Evertsen firing at Dili
DD Piet Hein firing at 24th Nav Gsn Unit


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Night Naval bombardment of Peleliu at 90,98

Allied Ships
DD Stack
DD Benham

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

DD Stack firing at Peleliu
DD Benham firing at Peleliu


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1014 troops, 127 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Defending force 11323 troops, 91 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 223

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit
34th Ind Engineer Regiment
11th Special Base Force
2nd JNAF AF Unit
70th JAAF AF Bn
51st Field AA Battalion
72nd JAAF AF Bn


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Ground combat at Dili (71,115)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4496 troops, 69 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 116

Defending force 5632 troops, 52 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 89

Allied adjusted assault: 89

Japanese adjusted defense: 207

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
246 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
30th Australian Brigade
Provisional GMC Grp

Defending units:
2nd Recon Regiment
57th Infantry Regiment
24th Nav Gsn Unit
47th JNAF AF Unit


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The infantry Rgt at Dili will recover some disabled squads before attacking again in concert with a naval bombardment.

A bit of bad news.
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Previous report of sinking of BB Yamato incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

But on the positive side.
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CV Shokaku Sunk by 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. at 57,80 near Groot Natoena
CA Maya Sunk by 1000 lb SAP Bomb at 56,79 near Terempa


The damaged fast battleships have just made it to Pearl Harbor. Alabama, with 39-6(0)-9(0) would need 112 days to repair there and will head to Bremerton instead.

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RE: 1944 August 03 - 8/7/2015 11:42:28 PM   
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Today's air losses.




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RE: 1944 August 03 - 8/7/2015 11:53:13 PM   
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The P38s didn't fly because they failed their morale roll. Check out your previous post on their stats. They needed a little rest.

No radar warning at all over Hanoi that I can see. 3 minutes warning. Jeesh.

Looks like he is setting up the Vinh line.

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RE: 1944 August 03 - 8/8/2015 12:33:23 AM   
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The P38s didn't fly because they failed their morale roll. Check out your previous post on their stats. They needed a little rest.

No radar warning at all over Hanoi that I can see. 3 minutes warning. Jeesh.

Looks like he is setting up the Vinh line.

That makes sense, and I wonder if weather at origin + target + morale are figured into one die roll? Weather was dicey at both ends for them. They have been providing escort for various unopposed raids day after day and transferred to Quinhon at the last minute.

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RE: 1944 August 03 - 8/8/2015 12:38:22 AM   
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I think there might also be a malus on the roll for switching bases too. They might sweep, but they need excellent morale on the day after a base change. At least that has been my experience.


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RE: 1944 August 03 - 8/8/2015 6:44:00 AM   
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All these talks about morale rolls make a newbie like me realize just how complex this game is. Also how many things one need to keep in mind XD

Pity about Breton sinking, but at least the push in indochina is still strong. Those are also some nice results with the sweeps by the way.

My usual, small question of the day. About sending that damaged battleship to Eastern USA. Considering the increased travel time, is it really that much faster than , say, Seattle or San Francisco? Or is it more because you want to keep those shipyards empty? I'm curious.

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RE: 1944 August 03 - 8/8/2015 2:17:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Drakanel

All these talks about morale rolls make a newbie like me realize just how complex this game is. Also how many things one need to keep in mind XD

Pity about Breton sinking, but at least the push in indochina is still strong. Those are also some nice results with the sweeps by the way.

My usual, small question of the day. About sending that damaged battleship to Eastern USA. Considering the increased travel time, is it really that much faster than , say, Seattle or San Francisco? Or is it more because you want to keep those shipyards empty? I'm curious.

I can't speak for witpqs, but I would do that if IJN subs were staking out the West Coast ports that have shipyards. My planning never goes far enough ahead to decide where I would deploy the repaired BB afterward, but if I were that good and knew I was going to send it to the IO, I would also send it to EC shipyards instead of tying up the WC ones. Some of the BBs get upgrades lasting about 9 months!

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RE: 1944 August 03 - 8/8/2015 4:21:56 PM   
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A little misunderstanding, in Babes the Seattle shipyard, which is huge in Stock scenario 1, is broken up into its more realistic components. The largest is Bremerton at size 150. That's where she is headed. There have not been subs anywhere near the West Coast for a long time. Travel time is always big on my list of considerations, and I'm just hoping that the travel time to and from Bremerton will be compensated by faster repair time. With Pearl being used to repair so many other ships that might be the case even if the time is not fully made up on Alabama herself if so many other ships repair faster without competing with her for repair resources.

It's a little harder on the Allies without that one huge shipyard to make repairs on badly damaged ships like battleships and fleet carriers, but that's all good!




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A little misunderstanding, in Babes the Seattle shipyard, which is huge in Stock scenario 1, is broken up into its more realistic components. The largest is Bremerton at size 150. That's where she is headed. There have not been subs anywhere near the West Coast for a long time. Travel time is always big on my list of considerations, and I'm just hoping that the travel time to and from Bremerton will be compensated by faster repair time. With Pearl being used to repair so many other ships that might be the case even if the time is not fully made up on Alabama herself if so many other ships repair faster without competing with her for repair resources.

It's a little harder on the Allies without that one huge shipyard to make repairs on badly damaged ships like battleships and fleet carriers, but that's all good!


That clears it up. Since I'm playing against the ai with stock, I thought you were talking of the Eastern USA. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And I can totally understand wanting to leave PH free. Even against the ai... that Shipyard is seriously too small, always

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Pearl Harbor repair shipyard right now. More ships are on the way and some have already finished repairs after the recent round of rowdiness. Many ships with more minor damage have or are repairing at Manado, Guam, and Truk. A bunch of DD and all the CLAA have or are repairing at Saigon. What upgrades that can be done forward are also being done forward.




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These are the CV/CVL that are heading back to Pearl Harbor, some for repairs some for upgrades that could be done forward but might tie up too many repair resources with many other ships repairing minor damage. Some of those more badly damaged CVE might end up there as well.




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My mouse has been hovering. Here are the results - looks like some ripe targets ready for harvesting beginning in a few turns.




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1944 August 04

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Lautem

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu


Our subs were not engaged.

Quiet in China, but our next attack is tomorrow SW of Mengtze with the B-24 groups in support.

The Imperials that had crossed the river SE out of Chiang Mai were pushed back into that city with heavy losses. The enemy defeated at Mergui still holds its rear-guard as it marches for the rail line.
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Ground combat at 59,54 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23577 troops, 401 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 554

Defending force 11153 troops, 152 guns, 77 vehicles, Assault Value = 98

Allied adjusted assault: 351

Japanese adjusted defense: 55

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3007 casualties reported
Squads: 134 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 143 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 32 (28 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
14th LRP Brigade
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
14th Division
146th Infantry Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at 53,63 (near Mergui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12910 troops, 249 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 315

Defending force 4473 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Allied adjusted assault: 134

Japanese adjusted defense: 73

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
26th Indian Division

Defending units:
9th Infantry Regiment
311th Ship Eng Coy
211th Ship Eng Coy
91st JAAF AF Bn
8th Field Construction Battalion
8th JAAF AF Coy
9th JAAF AF Coy


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Getting ready for a Port Blair landing. Forces only ~60% prepared but there are only a few hundred troops on the island.

The enemy pocket on the coast was eliminated. The tank Rgt west of Vinh held but out tank Bn suffered only scratches and powder burns.
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Ground combat at 66,62 (near Hue)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7497 troops, 86 guns, 133 vehicles, Assault Value = 425

Defending force 188 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 199

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 199 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
212 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
23rd Australian Brigade
2/5th Armoured Regiment
503rd Parachute Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade

Defending units:
110th/B Division


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Ground combat at 64,59 (near Vinh)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 702 troops, 3 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 72

Defending force 1497 troops, 10 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 47

Allied adjusted assault: 32

Japanese adjusted defense: 37

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
775th Tank Battalion

Defending units:
10th Tank Regiment
52nd JNAF AF Unit


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The USA 775th Tk Bn will recover disruption and await the arrival of the USA 632nd TD Bn, now released from its blocking position on the coast. The Aus Bdes on the coast will make haste to enter Vinh from the SW, a slow RR bed for the last 46 miles. The USA para Rgt and the Aus Arm Rgt on the coast will move to contact the IJA Rgt on the coast SE of Vinh. If it remains in place while other forces move up it will be destroyed outside of Vinh. Nearer to Ubon an Aus Bde and an Arm Rgt will contact then attack the trapped support unit in 2 and 3 days. After which, the Inf Bde will join the others at Vinh while the Arm Bde moves to the hex SE of Vinh. Tomorrow the USA TD Bn and Tk Bn NE of Udon Thani should have plenty of firepower to eject the cooks and clerks there. Following that, 2x Tk Bn and the TD Bn will cross the river into Vientiane on the run, then push through to Luangprabang. Finally, they will force the road from there to Vinh. The 2x Inf Divs (1x Aus, 1 USA) will move in their wake, turning toward Vinh at Vientiane, eventually crossing the jungle to the road NW of Vinh to try and trap the forces in that city.

Today's bombing identified 4x Inf or mixed Rgts in Vinh. There are more than 44,000 troops in 7 units there, so clearly even more combat power. Add to that the Rgt SE of the city and the Tk Rgt to the west, plus what appears to be a Rgt NW (on the road our forces will assault through). More troops are heading south from Hanoi.

9x ten-ship B-29 squadrons transferred to Moulmein, leaving 10 or 12 aircraft to finish repairs and join them. Quinhon airfield will reach size 8 in either 3 or 4 days and we will start the Hong Kong industry reduction about then. that will give the remaining B-29 time to catch up. Update: Changed my mind and transferred all the B-29 squadrons to Moulmein. There are a lot more damaged planes left behind but they will catch up as they can. This way all available B-29 will participate in the attacks.

The operations at Ternate and Dili continue apace. With Lautem once again loyal to the Allies the 2/2 Ind Coy will march to Dili to assist matters there.

On Borneo: The 14th NZ Bde should arrive at Miri tomorrow. The Torres Strait Bn continues marching to Beaufort. The USA 158 Inf Rgt should arrive at Bandjermasin in 4 days.

Indochina, et. al.




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Intel screen. We have finally pushed up Imperial ground losses to almost half of ours. The ~75,000 troops near Chiang Mai plus others trapped in the theater should push us well over that mark.




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Here are our movements currently underway and some planned in Indochina, et al. Putting all the nuances in would make the map unreadable. It's clear that Vinh is intended to hold, but will that remain the intention once the encirclement begins?




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Here are our movements currently underway and some planned in Indochina, et al. Putting all the nuances in would make the map unreadable. It's clear that Vinh is intended to hold, but will that remain the intention once the encirclement begins?


Well, it clearly depends from how many troops he will move there and in the hex NW of Vinh. If the troops from Hanoi are in strategic mode, they could make it there in one day. If there's enough firepower to hold for a while...

I don't think he can stall you for a long time, not considering all you have in the theatre now, but if he is moving troops there, he must have confidence in the fact that they can at least pose some serious threat to your advance. If not, I don't really see the point in sending more troops there. Because, sooner or later, they're dead if they move to Vinh. If they do not slow you down, there's no point.

Who knows, maybe Vinh has lv 9 forts. Yeah I know, almost impossible. But just saying :P

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I agree forts at Vinh are not likely built high since the events in Indochina started with surprise and progressed rapidly.
Even if he puts lots of troops at Vinh, the Allies have command of the sea and if they wish, can send in bombardment TFs with air cover against his bombers.
Who knows - they could even land at Pakhoi and cut off Hanoi/Haiphong/Lang Son as well! There will be some static Vietminh divisions (with low AV and little heavy equipment) at Hanoi and Vinh. I am not sure if there is also one at Haiphong.

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I'm doing my best to hide the two infantry divisions that will move through Vientiane. I think the best chance at completing the encirclement will be their combat power added to the armored units that are upfront in the spotlight.

Sort of a second level will be added to the fracas when the various marks of 4EB begin destroying all the LI and HI supply generation within range. I'm thinking the first sortie of the B-29 groups back in this theater will be a surprise. First up will be Changsha Light Industry - 161 of it - while the B-24 and some other 4EB groups go for Hong Kong's 221 LI. After that the B-29 will move around as randomly as possible. The other 4EB will get as much sweeper support as they can.

As far as the air war over and around Vinh, I have no airfields nearby. So I can sweep great but LRCAP is a bit lame. Vinh itself has a size 1 airfield, so even after taking that it will require buildup. I won't pull engineers from Quinhon until the airfield maxes out at 9 to relieve the restriction on number of groups, so the front will continue to see some strikes by Imperial bombers on our ground troops. They are so far very limited and hitting our armor. Today they hit the Tk Bn west of Vinh before it attacked, but I think that counted for fairly little disruption. Even after the ground attack is was 18%.

I would be happy to bypass Vinh if it is too tough. Just take all the hex sides, destroy retreat all nearby units, then continue with air, naval, and land bombardments for the foreseeable future while the main body moves on. I also realize that DAW HQ might mount a stubborn defense moving into China, so the destruction of supply generators plus the invasion of Formosa (after Okinawa) are designed to keep up the momentum. Flank, flank, flank - flank every defense as much as possible to undermine it for fewer losses and less time.

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It is all very interesting, and thank you for the arrow-ery map. Pretty interesting, and good luck with your attacks.

I hope Japan is recovered from the Camh Ran Bay invasion which you have mopped up nicely.

Your movements in northern Vietnam won't go as fast as you think. I think. Of course, I am usually wrong.

The 14th Division is a bad luck unit, it got savaged in my game too.


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It is all very interesting, and thank you for the arrow-ery map. Pretty interesting, and good luck with your attacks.

I hope Japan is recovered from the Camh Ran Bay invasion which you have mopped up nicely.

Your movements in northern Vietnam won't go as fast as you think. I think. Of course, I am usually wrong.

The 14th Division is a bad luck unit, it got savaged in my game too.



I suppose he might have a fragment of the 14th Div somewhere but otherwise it will have to be bought and rebuilt from scratch. I call that hard luck!

As for speed in northern Indochina, it all depends on how much tactical surprise those two infantry divisions are afforded as they emerge from the jungle. If he thinks he is facing an armor only force behind Vinh and then two big divisions are on scene before he can compensate, then we have a chance. If they stymie us, supply will grow even more short for them as 4EB pass far above their positions and strike in the rear. At least that's the plan!

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