Rasputitsa
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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx Look, I'm just having a hard time swallowing this even from the standpoint of the Soviet win. I mean, what we're saying here is Hitler counts up his VP at the end of 1941, sees he's got 195, and surrenders to the Soviet Union with his army hundreds of miles deep into the Soviet Union. Talk about a stab in the back! These conditions are fine if we're talking about strictly a 1941 scenario. (Which already is there.) But for determining the end of the war in GC context? What you could say is that when things start to go badly (measured by VP) for the Germans in 1941, but more likely 1942 and even more likely 1943, etc., someone puts a bomb on his plane, or under the map table and tries to negotiate a way out of the mess. Would the bomb go off, will the Soviets negotiate, we never got to see Nazi Germany without Hitler, so we will never know, but it is a possible outcome. The problem seems to be in giving both sides something to play for, as in reality and without hindsight, it was the hope of eventual victory that kept the forces in the field, during the early years.
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