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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2014 10:34:42 AM

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@Warspite..asked this further up but you must have missed it. Do you own the campaign expansion for Steam and Iron? If not I can't recommend it enough, enhances the game no end.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2014 11:02:54 AM

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@Warspite..asked this further up but you must have missed it. Do you own the campaign expansion for Steam and Iron? If not I can't recommend it enough, enhances the game no end.

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Yes I did miss this.

I've never heard of Steam and Iron before now. I've just been on the website - looks interesting. I will check this out some more - thanks for the tip.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2014 3:16:44 PM

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It's a superb game if your into WW1 naval..but the campaign expansion is a must. Just got the expansion and I haven't stopped playing.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2014 7:54:21 PM

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2014 8:00:23 PM

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I tried downloading the demo but my computer (or rather the anti-virus I guess) really didn't like it

Not a good start......

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2014 8:10:22 PM

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/19/2014 8:16:32 PM

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 12:09:48 AM

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Listening to the audio book version of The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945, John Toland. It's 41 hours, but so far(3 hours in) it seems worth it.

warspite1

I loved the paperback version - a really, really good book imo .

It is a great book. The narrator does a wonderful job with the story.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 1:47:52 AM

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Listening to the audio book version of The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945, John Toland. It's 41 hours, but so far(3 hours in) it seems worth it.

warspite1

I loved the paperback version - a really, really good book imo .

It is a great book. The narrator does a wonderful job with the story.

Have the two volume hardback myself.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 4:08:57 AM

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Listening to the audio book version of The Rising Sun: The Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire, 1936-1945, John Toland. It's 41 hours, but so far(3 hours in) it seems worth it.

warspite1

I loved the paperback version - a really, really good book imo .

It is a great book. The narrator does a wonderful job with the story.

Have the two volume hardback myself.

+1.

I have the 2 volume hard back set as well. It's a lot dog eared these days.

Many a scenario has come out of that set of books.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 6:01:48 AM

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anyway, i liked the vids on harplonk's channel very much:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0B7E1E012583E22
at least check out he gameplay footage...

warspite1

I did, thanks for the link. I don't think the guy was exactly showing the game in its best light (he kept criticising the game play mechanics and I am not sure he knew what he was actually doing?*) but I sort of got the picture - I think

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I must say I am really torn on this.

Positives

- the genre
- all those great ships to play with!!

Negatives

- aesthetics are really important to me, and this game looks pretty functional..

Questions

- I assume not multiplayer?
- I take it there is more skill involved than that evidenced in the AAR's? All seemed to do was point his ships to where he wanted them to go and muck about with the speed a few times.

* EDIT - just finished watching Tsushima. No, he has no idea what he is doing

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 7:27:33 PM

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anyway, i liked the vids on harplonk's channel very much:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0B7E1E012583E22
at least check out he gameplay footage...

warspite1

I did, thanks for the link. I don't think the guy was exactly showing the game in its best light (he kept criticising the game play mechanics and I am not sure he knew what he was actually doing?*) but I sort of got the picture - I think .

I must say I am really torn on this.

Positives

- the genre
- all those great ships to play with!!

Negatives

- aesthetics are really important to me, and this game looks pretty functional..

Questions

- I assume not multiplayer?
- I take it there is more skill involved than that evidenced in the AAR's? All seemed to do was point his ships to where he wanted them to go and muck about with the speed a few times.

* EDIT - just finished watching Tsushima. No, he has no idea what he is doing

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/steam-and-iron-pc-game-review.htm

FWIW, my favorite naval game was Action Stations! Graphics were simpler than Steam and Iron, (Circles and squares of different sizes.), but it had a very detailed system for its time.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 7:46:34 PM

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If you liked Action Stations as much as I did, then you might like Alan Zimm's book on Pearl Harbor - 'The Attack on Pearl Harbor: Strategy, Combat, Myths, Deceptions'.

He designed and programmed Action Stations.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 7:49:33 PM

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Thanks!! I'll add it to my list.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 8:12:31 PM

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anyway, i liked the vids on harplonk's channel very much:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0B7E1E012583E22
at least check out he gameplay footage...

warspite1

I did, thanks for the link. I don't think the guy was exactly showing the game in its best light (he kept criticising the game play mechanics and I am not sure he knew what he was actually doing?*) but I sort of got the picture - I think .

I must say I am really torn on this.

Positives

- the genre
- all those great ships to play with!!

Negatives

- aesthetics are really important to me, and this game looks pretty functional..

Questions

- I assume not multiplayer?
- I take it there is more skill involved than that evidenced in the AAR's? All seemed to do was point his ships to where he wanted them to go and muck about with the speed a few times.

* EDIT - just finished watching Tsushima. No, he has no idea what he is doing

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/steam-and-iron-pc-game-review.htm

FWIW, my favorite naval game was Action Stations! Graphics were simpler than Steam and Iron, (Circles and squares of different sizes.), but it had a very detailed system for its time.

warspite1

Thanks Aurelian. That is an interesting article. With MWIF and CTGW both still some way from where they need to be, I may give this a go

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/20/2014 10:12:03 PM

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I am not normally into Vampire novels in any way, usually Fantasy or a good Zombie Novel like "World War Z" is what I read but after recommendations from a good friend of mine plus that it is now a Television series I decided to pick it up and Boy! What a great piece of work. I am truly enjoying it. The Vampires are not your typical "Dracula black cape and sweet talking" type Vampires but evil beast that spread their "strain" all over New York then the World. If you want something else to read, give this a go. Or if you want the audiobook version is it read by Ron Perlman (HellBoy)

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/21/2014 11:28:15 PM

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I am not normally into Vampire novels in any way, usually Fantasy or a good Zombie Novel like "World War Z" is what I read but after recommendations from a good friend of mine plus that it is now a Television series I decided to pick it up and Boy! What a great piece of work. I am truly enjoying it. The Vampires are not your typical "Dracula black cape and sweet talking" type Vampires but evil beast that spread their "strain" all over New York then the World. If you want something else to read, give this a go. Or if you want the audiobook version is it read by Ron Perlman (HellBoy)

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http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/the-strain-drama-from-guillermo-del-toro-and-carlton-cuse-gets-pilot-order-at-fx/

This is a great series. I have read all three books and listened to the audio versions. And Ron Perlman is perfect for these books. Lots of frights.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/22/2014 12:46:23 AM

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I'm awaiting Norman Friedman's 'Fighting the Great War at Sea: Strategy, Tactics and Technology', due out September 15th.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/22/2014 6:10:53 AM

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I'm awaiting Norman Friedman's 'Fighting the Great War at Sea: Strategy, Tactics and Technology', due out September 15th.

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Me too, see post 1150

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/22/2014 6:47:28 AM

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Starting in on "The Green Books", the slang term for the Official History of the United States Army in the Second World War. All 49 volumes. I'm pleased with this current volume ("Breakout and Pursuit") as it goes into detail in operations in Brittany and the Argentan-Falaise gap that are glossed over in other tomes.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/23/2014 2:43:15 PM

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/23/2014 7:33:39 PM

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/23/2014 7:52:33 PM

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the green books keep me and my kindle busy. poor amazon, sold me the hard but won't ever get money for their soft...
atm, cmh pub 5-2-1 the fall of the philippines is on-the-line.

@warspite1 - cool, you've changed your mind and will give sai a try!

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Yup, it's on order.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/23/2014 7:55:37 PM

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/24/2014 3:07:01 AM

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@Parusski,

Take a look at "XOM-B" by Jeremy Robinson. I do not read zombie books but I really liked what he does with this one.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/24/2014 6:58:46 AM

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I very recently finished reading John H. Gill's masterfully definitive, three-volume history 1809: Thunder on the Danube -- truly a stunning achievement in Napoleonic studies.

All told, its 1,000+ pages offer the most meticulously detailed account of the War of the Fifth Coalition ever attempted in English. Every facet of Napoleon's last victorious campaign is covered in minute detail, backed by extensive notes, charts, OOBs and a multitude of truly excellent maps. (You'll get to know the geography of Bavaria and Austria like the back of your hand.)

The secondary theaters of Italy, Poland and Dalmatia -- usually skimmed over in most histories -- receive extensive coverage as well.

Gill's depiction of the Battle of Ebelsberg is particularly interesting... House-to-house urban combat wasn't a hallmark of the Napoleonic Wars, but at Ebelsberg (3 May 1809) the street fighting was like a mini-Stalingrad in its intensity.

Anyone interested in the 1809 campaign, or Napoleonic military history in general, should not fail to seek these books out. They're astonishingly good.

Between them, the books contain some 96 maps (covering everything from grand strategy to minor cavalry skirmishes).

1809: Thunder on the Danube, Vol. I - Politics, Strategy and the Road to Abensberg-Eggmuhl
1809: Thunder on the Danube, Vol. II - The Fall of Vienna and the Battle of Aspern
1809: Thunder on the Danube, Vol. III - Wagram and Znaim

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 7/30/2014 8:09:09 AM

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Churchill Contre Hitler: Norvege 1940, La Victoire Fatale by Fran�ois Kersaudy

warspite1

Please let me know what you think of it.

I read his Norway 1940 - a paperback printed in 1991. A good book if I recall correctly.

I like this book so far. I have now read two thirds of the book. It concentrate on the political and strategic side on the campaign. Reading it without previous knowledge of the operational and tactical side of the campaign might make it difficult to appreciate this book. One solution is to check out the other aspects at the same time.

I am so glad that the Allied side got their act together and learned from their mistakes. I have no idea what would have happened if the Allied leadership had continued this way but I fear that the Allied side would have a much worse experience. It sees that it was amateur time back then. And Churchill didn't seem much better than the rest. But with that sais I have not read the books conclusion yet.

I'll post again once I finished this book but it might take a while since I have a few other books that I am reading as well.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 8/7/2014 6:00:46 PM

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anyway, i liked the vids on harplonk's channel very much:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0B7E1E012583E22
at least check out he gameplay footage...

warspite1

I did, thanks for the link. I don't think the guy was exactly showing the game in its best light (he kept criticising the game play mechanics and I am not sure he knew what he was actually doing?*) but I sort of got the picture - I think .

I must say I am really torn on this.

Positives

- the genre
- all those great ships to play with!!

Negatives

- aesthetics are really important to me, and this game looks pretty functional..

Questions

- I assume not multiplayer?
- I take it there is more skill involved than that evidenced in the AAR's? All seemed to do was point his ships to where he wanted them to go and muck about with the speed a few times.

* EDIT - just finished watching Tsushima. No, he has no idea what he is doing

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/steam-and-iron-pc-game-review.htm

FWIW, my favorite naval game was Action Stations! Graphics were simpler than Steam and Iron, (Circles and squares of different sizes.), but it had a very detailed system for its time.

warspite1

Thanks Aurelian. That is an interesting article. With MWIF and CTGW both still some way from where they need to be, I may give this a go

warspite1

The game arrived today

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 8/8/2014 5:27:49 PM

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anyway, i liked the vids on harplonk's channel very much:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC0B7E1E012583E22
at least check out he gameplay footage...

warspite1

I did, thanks for the link. I don't think the guy was exactly showing the game in its best light (he kept criticising the game play mechanics and I am not sure he knew what he was actually doing?*) but I sort of got the picture - I think .

I must say I am really torn on this.

Positives

- the genre
- all those great ships to play with!!

Negatives

- aesthetics are really important to me, and this game looks pretty functional..

Questions

- I assume not multiplayer?
- I take it there is more skill involved than that evidenced in the AAR's? All seemed to do was point his ships to where he wanted them to go and muck about with the speed a few times.

* EDIT - just finished watching Tsushima. No, he has no idea what he is doing

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/steam-and-iron-pc-game-review.htm

FWIW, my favorite naval game was Action Stations! Graphics were simpler than Steam and Iron, (Circles and squares of different sizes.), but it had a very detailed system for its time.

warspite1

Thanks Aurelian. That is an interesting article. With MWIF and CTGW both still some way from where they need to be, I may give this a go

warspite1

The game arrived today

warspite1

Goodness - the Players Manual is 14 pages and that includes the title page, the contents page, the design philosophy and the bibliography!!!!!!

Have to get reading on this tonight and started on the game tomorrow. Hope its worth it

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 8/8/2014 5:33:48 PM

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Churchill Contre Hitler: Norvege 1940, La Victoire Fatale by Fran�ois Kersaudy

warspite1

Please let me know what you think of it.

I read his Norway 1940 - a paperback printed in 1991. A good book if I recall correctly.

I like this book so far. I have now read two thirds of the book. It concentrate on the political and strategic side on the campaign. Reading it without previous knowledge of the operational and tactical side of the campaign might make it difficult to appreciate this book. One solution is to check out the other aspects at the same time.

I am so glad that the Allied side got their act together and learned from their mistakes. I have no idea what would have happened if the Allied leadership had continued this way but I fear that the Allied side would have a much worse experience. It sees that it was amateur time back then. And Churchill didn't seem much better than the rest. But with that sais I have not read the books conclusion yet.

I'll post again once I finished this book but it might take a while since I have a few other books that I am reading as well.

As I said I liked this book. Now I have a craving for reading his previous book about this campaign.

But there was not much of a conclusion of it. And no real explanation of the title. Not that I do not understand what the title meant but with such a title I expected more of an analysis.

After reading this book I do understand why CW and France do not co-operate in MWIF. But at the same time I wonder why minor countries, like Norway, are allowed to co-operate with their controlling power at the same turn as they enter the war. Co-operation between Norway and the Allies could have been better and that is a understatement.

Now I feel like reading more books about the political side of WWII. But I suspect that I will soon get over it since I will probably be annoyed when reading about it.

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