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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 9/27/2013 9:26:39 PM   
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Scalextric did a superb model of this in the early 80's. Great memories.



Yeah real fond memories of Scalextric, had two sets of track to build real long courses. Just our cars would get overheated, loved the smell of the electic overheating. Me and my brother had hours of fun playing and setting up differnt circuits. Would give anything to play again with him, alas he passed away 32 years ago, wish I could turn back the clock.

Warspite you just gave me fond memories of my younger brother, Thanks mate.


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 9/27/2013 9:30:24 PM   
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Scalextric did a superb model of this in the early 80's. Great memories.



Yeah real fond memories of Scalextric, had two sets of track to build real long courses. Just our cars would get overheated, loved the smell of the electic overheating. Me and my brother had hours of fun playing and setting up differnt circuits. Would give anything to play again with him, alas he passed away 32 years ago, wish I could turn back the clock.

Warspite you just gave me fond memories of my younger brother, Thanks mate.


Mat
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B***** british exil, really sorry to hear that .


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 9/27/2013 9:39:06 PM   
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I often think of what it would be like to day with him, when I reflect about my younger brother it is always fond memories of him, he never did anything bad I can think of. So in a way it is nice to remember him, somedays it hurts other days it is a nice thought of a short childhood.

I enjoy thinking of him, even if it does hurt sometimes.

Thanks again.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/2/2013 9:51:48 PM   
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Its the Williams FW10




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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/2/2013 10:03:03 PM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/3/2013 4:27:33 AM   
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Just look how his head is poking out of the cockpit. They were real drivers back then.

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Indeed - remember the Tyrrell from that year - or was it 1984? My memory is failing in my frail dotage...

EDIT: Soz, it was 1984 - that was the car Bellof drove to 3rd at Monaco.




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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/5/2013 9:37:47 PM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/5/2013 10:18:08 PM   
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Isn't there a race on tomorrow?

I look forward to next season - the Iceman and Alonso both in Ferrari, this will be fun . And I will watch Webber how he's doing in his new series - or did he sign up only for Le Mans?

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/6/2013 6:22:55 AM   
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I sometimes wonder how many of those who died on the track would still be alive if they could have been in a safer car...

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I think the answer is probably a good many of them. The cars are so strong nowadays whereas in the past they were made with things like steel, magnesium and aluminium, they now use carbon-fibre and Kevlar etc. The cars have to undergo crash tests both front and side.

In addition, there are safety features such as the HANS device to protect the neck and spine, the cockpits sides were made higher etc etc.

However, do not forget that it was not the deficiency in the cars that always caused fatalities. The track, the run-off areas and the infrastructure around F1 was also to blameas well as freak bad luck; Francois Cevert was killed because of a poorly placed crash barrier, Tom Pryce was killed because of a track marshal's over exuberence, Roger Williamson and Elio de Angelis died because there was insufficient thought given to fire-fighting and the need for fire-proof clothing and proper equipment to be readily available.

So would they all have survived their accidents in modern cars? No I don't think so, but the death toll would have been a whole lot lower.


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/6/2013 6:26:30 AM   
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Isn't there a race on tomorrow?

I look forward to next season - the Iceman and Alonso both in Ferrari, this will be fun . And I will watch Webber how he's doing in his new series - or did he sign up only for Le Mans?
warspite1

Yes there is - lets hope its not another Vettel snooze fest

Alonso vs Raikonnen will be interesting. My money is on Alonso.

I think Webber has signed for the whole series.


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/6/2013 5:57:37 PM   
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Next season, my money is on Raikkonen - I think Alonso is so used to having an adjutant on his side that he will need some time to adjust to this new situation - I cannot imagine Raikkonen acting like a lame duck as Massa did.

Webber does the whole season, that's good - eight races, will be interesting... http://www.fiawec.com/

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/7/2013 4:08:17 PM   
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The race...

Next season, my money is on Raikkonen - I think Alonso is so used to having an adjutant on his side that he will need some time to adjust to this new situation - I cannot imagine Raikkonen acting like a lame duck as Massa did.

Webber does the whole season, that's good - eight races, will be interesting... http://www.fiawec.com/
warspite1

What a surprise.... it was a vettel snoozefest

Well either way it will be interesting - you say the Finn, I say the Spaniard. We'll see who is right next year!


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/7/2013 8:39:46 PM   
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The race...

Next season, my money is on Raikkonen - I think Alonso is so used to having an adjutant on his side that he will need some time to adjust to this new situation - I cannot imagine Raikkonen acting like a lame duck as Massa did.

Webber does the whole season, that's good - eight races, will be interesting... http://www.fiawec.com/
warspite1

What a surprise.... it was a vettel snoozefest

Well either way it will be interesting - you say the Finn, I say the Spaniard. We'll see who is right next year!




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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/7/2013 9:05:14 PM   
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I'm still hoping that an Englishman will get the championship! If Hamilton has a car that runs well and a bit more luck, no breakdowns while leading etc. then just maybe.......



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The race...

Next season, my money is on Raikkonen - I think Alonso is so used to having an adjutant on his side that he will need some time to adjust to this new situation - I cannot imagine Raikkonen acting like a lame duck as Massa did.

Webber does the whole season, that's good - eight races, will be interesting... http://www.fiawec.com/
warspite1

What a surprise.... it was a vettel snoozefest

Well either way it will be interesting - you say the Finn, I say the Spaniard. We'll see who is right next year!



warspite1

Give Lewis the car (and the reliability) and he will do the job. His talent is going to waste with every passing year....

It's a bit like Nigel Mansell. With just a few changes in luck, he could have easily been a 4/5 time world champion, but......


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/11/2013 7:48:39 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24487701

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/14/2013 5:39:42 PM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/14/2013 6:21:54 PM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/14/2013 8:25:13 PM   
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Sad news indeed. Was reading her death was a caused by the horrible accident she had when test-driving the Marussia in 2012.
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That accident was weird. Don't know if she ever remembered what happened or said, but it was very strange how she just accelerated into the truck...


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/25/2013 10:29:58 PM   
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Sorry, but until he gets a decent team mate, he is in the same camp as Schumacher - we won't ever really know how good he is and Ayrton Senna will remain THE best driver ever.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/26/2013 8:33:02 PM   
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The RAM 03 from 1985.




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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/29/2013 9:29:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		He's champion now. Webber out - with such a last season I guess he is ever more looking forward to leave.

Who can really say which driver is the best one ever. Depends on how you look at it. There's so much one can take as a measurement; championships, winning races, fastest laps, number of seasons divided by victories etc etc.

Let's face it; you have to be a egotistical perfectionist to be on the top. This doesn't make one necessarily sympathetic to the generel fans of the sports, but it's the prize for success. ALain Prost, Ayrton Senna, James Hunt, Michael Schumacher, Sebastian Vettel, Hamilton, Niki Lauda, Fernando Alonso certainly ALL fill into this category. Most, if not all of them, never or seldom had a decent team mate (Prost and Senna were team mates, but it was, well, war-like) - you cannot put two alpha-males into a team and expect all out success.

Next year Ferrari (Alonso, Raikkonen) will be interesting - that is, if the car has anything better to offer than tradition or a polished red colour.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/29/2013 10:21:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the question of who is the best ever driver can never really be answered – but these sort of lists are always fun to do!

Any list has to be based on perceived driving ability, otherwise it would just be a list of World Champions in order of victories – but how many people around now, ever saw Fangio or Ascari?

There was the possibility of multiple victories in more dangerous times – Fangio, Brabham and Stewart – but careers tended to be shorter. How many championships would Ascari or Clark have won?

I completely agree that you need a massive ego and total self-belief to be a great – there is a saying that good guys never win in F1.

I think in the “old days”, most drivers had “decent” team mates though. If you look at the list you wrote: Prost/Senna and Prost/Lauda; Senna/Prost; Hamilton/Alonso. The two obvious omissions are Vettel and Schumacher (but that depends on where you rank their team mates of course).

And who is to say Ferrari or Red Bull were wrong? I agree it makes sense for teams (if not the fans) to have a No.1 and a No.2. Look at how Hamilton/Alonso and Mansell/Piquet lost titles that they would not have if there was a clear No.1 policy.

I personally see no merit in a top 10 that includes drivers I never saw race (and thus can only go on statistics). Therefore my top 10 covers drivers from 1982 only.

1. Ayrton Senna
2. Michael Schumacher
3. Alain Prost
4. Sebastian Vettel
5. Fernando Alonso
6. Niki Lauda
7. Nigel Mansell
8. Mika Hakkinen
9. Lewis Hamilton
10. Nelson Piquet


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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/30/2013 2:52:12 PM   
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Would be interesting to compile some statistic of "Who won the championship despite having to deal with a team mate who is at the same level" or something. And another of "Who won the championship with the luck of having an adjutant in the team"...

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 1/7/2014 8:19:55 PM   
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Pre-order in place - can't wait to see this again!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 1/25/2014 9:59:00 AM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 2/1/2014 6:18:36 AM   
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...could it be too much to hope? Is the Red Bull going to struggle this year?

Oh please, lets hope so...

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 2/1/2014 8:21:09 AM   
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No offense intended.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 2/1/2014 8:44:52 AM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 2/1/2014 11:15:16 AM   
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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 2/1/2014 11:48:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, being able to fall asleep is why I like watching the races! Usually, it goes like this; I watch the qualification, then on race-day the pre-race stuff, the start of the race, and when the first round of pit-stops is over, I get tired. Then, close to end of race I wake up again and watch who's winning. More often than not, I miss the finish - Formula 1, perfect for a afternoon nap!

I like this sport since I was a small boy, back when Lauda and Hunt raced (No I won't ever watch "Rush", not even when it's on telly). I have some sort of connection to this sport, even now. My father-in-law was the mechanic of Jochen Rindt before his F1 career. I've met the "expert-on-everything", Niki Lauda, several times on a local airport when he was still the owner of the FlyNiki airine on purely professional occasions (I wish I wouldn't have met him, I worked at that airport).

This year, with the Austrian GP back, my father-in-law will attend the race and due to his connections has entry to the paddock - he asked me whether I want to go there too, but at the same date my wife has a meeting with some of her knitting-friends in Germany. So I will not be there - have to keep our little son happy at home.

I take it easy, just another opportunity for a afternoon nap!

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