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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/1/2015 2:57:40 PM

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There are actually two things to look at here. The first corner (Rosberg obviously ahead) gave way to Hamilton. The second corner (I'm not prepared to admit Hamilton was in the lead for sure, it was close...perhaps you can look at it on your DVR...they also had a different angle on a replay than the live angle), Hamilton took it very wide (in my opinion blocking) giving Rosberg the choice to either crash or run off track.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/1/2015 7:27:04 PM

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Jenson will drive for McLaren in 2016. What a glutton for punishment

I wish you luck Jenson - let's hope Honda can get a grip on the situation.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/5/2015 7:20:46 PM

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Bonus!!!

I was walking through Canary Wharf today and who should I see doing a book signing?

.....None other than the living legend that is Sir Nigel of Mansell (Red 5)

So I quickly bagged me a copy of his new book and got in the queue pronto. One signed copy of the book and a couple of piccys with my hero later and......

Life is good

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/5/2015 7:38:51 PM

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Good on you!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/5/2015 9:42:18 PM

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Bonus!!!

I was walking through Canary Wharf today and who should I see doing a book signing?

.....None other than the living legend that is Sir Nigel of Mansell (Red 5)

So I quickly bagged me a copy of his new book and got in the queue pronto. One signed copy of the book and a couple of piccys with my hero later and......

Life is good

You lucky devil.

Please post some of the pics you took. Make us all really jealous.

Mat

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/6/2015 6:20:17 AM

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Bonus!!!

I was walking through Canary Wharf today and who should I see doing a book signing?

.....None other than the living legend that is Sir Nigel of Mansell (Red 5)

So I quickly bagged me a copy of his new book and got in the queue pronto. One signed copy of the book and a couple of piccys with my hero later and......

Life is good

You lucky devil.

Please post some of the pics you took. Make us all really jealous.

Mat

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Soz mate I really don't want my ugly mug plastered over the forum!! So will have to decline that invitation.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/8/2015 10:41:22 AM

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Just stunned by your negative response.

Has taken me 2 days to overcome my utter shock of being refused.
Now I would have understood if it was the Australlian Beauties thread, seeing that 2 men of the pic being posted.

But here, on the Grand Prix thread. I do not know what the world is coming too.

I still can't believe it.

Not sure if I can bear the thought of returning to this thread, after such an answer.

Mat

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/8/2015 5:35:56 PM

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Just stunned by your negative response.

Has taken me 2 days to overcome my utter shock of being refused.
Now I would have understood if it was the Australlian Beauties thread, seeing that 2 men of the pic being posted.

But here, on the Grand Prix thread. I do not know what the world is coming too.

I still can't believe it.

Not sure if I can bear the thought of returning to this thread, after such an answer.

Mat

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Okay then......

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/8/2015 7:04:39 PM

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I take it you blacked out Mansell in that photo?

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/8/2015 7:07:24 PM

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Okay then......

So close. Yet so far away.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/8/2015 7:11:29 PM

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I take it you blacked out Mansell in that photo?

warspite1

Do you mean the instantly recognisable god like character that is:

Sir Nigel of Mansell

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/8/2015 7:15:23 PM

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RED 5!!!!!!!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/8/2015 7:56:27 PM

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Just stunned by your negative response.

Has taken me 2 days to overcome my utter shock of being refused.
Now I would have understood if it was the Australlian Beauties thread, seeing that 2 men of the pic being posted.

But here, on the Grand Prix thread. I do not know what the world is coming too.

I still can't believe it.

Not sure if I can bear the thought of returning to this thread, after such an answer.

Mat

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Okay then......

Thankyou.

I wish I had been there. Would have got the book, the signature and the pic as well.

Happy to be able to return to my favorite forums.

Mat

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/9/2015 6:19:24 AM

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Why wont Mercedes be an engine supplier for Red Bull? Red Bull (+ Torro Rosso) is thinking about pulling out after this year.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/9/2015 6:26:20 AM

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Why wont Mercedes be an engine supplier for Red Bull? Red Bull (+ Torro Rosso) is thinking about pulling out after this year.

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Because with Adrian Newey in the fold, there is every chance that Red Bull could beat Mercedes - and from a corporate point of view, what is the point of the factory team then?

Mercedes maybe could supply them BUT, Red Bull are insisting on the latest spec engines and not the customer version (which they see as an insult). Ferrari have only offered 2015 engines hence Matescich (spelling?) is in a strop and threatening to quit again.

This inherent problem with customer engines is why McLaren turned to Honda as soon as possible after Mercedes announced a factory team.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/10/2015 8:23:52 PM

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Repeat of last race? If Rosberg gives in to Hamilton like he did last race, I'll be so pissed!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/11/2015 2:57:35 PM

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LEWIS!!!!!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/12/2015 6:30:01 PM

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Repeat of last race? If Rosberg gives in to Hamilton like he did last race, I'll be so pissed!

I finally got a chance to watch Japan. I don't believe Rosberg gave way to Lewis pe se. That does not mean that he didn't move off, he did. But it does strongly appear that Lewis forced him off. If Lewis had done that in NASCAR, or CART, there would be blood. There were no control issues that had Lewis swing so far wide. I believe Rosberg was just trying to keep from tangling, which would not have done either team good. I was a bit shocked that the stewards did not say or do anything, but I am still new to F1 rules. From a professional point of view, I believe Rosberg did the right thing. But I would be seriously looking for a maple bat to explain the issue to my team mate if I was Rosberg, and if it happened again it would take more than polite manners to keep me from applying gentle persuasion to reinforce my displeasure.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/12/2015 6:44:58 PM

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As far as I know, the race stewards interfere only when;

.) cars of different teams are involved
.) something like an accident or a collision happened
.) any violation of rules occured (like crossing the white line at the pit-exit too early, as Hamilton did in Hungary)

and finally

.) when one team logs a protest.

In this incident, nothing really happened. None of both left the track in a way to gain an advantage (like crossing a corner), and no car was forced to stop racing.
Can you imagine Mercedes protesting a incident which involved its own cars only? Now imagine they do, and one of its drivers would get a penalty, like a drive-through penalty, or a 30-seconds penalty...

This would be a team shooting ist own foot then...

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/18/2015 3:31:03 PM

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Okay then......

I finally figured it out. You're Batman.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/20/2015 8:18:15 PM

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Okay then......

I finally figured it out. You're Batman.

warspite1

Fatman would be more accurate.....

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/21/2015 6:07:13 AM

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Okay then......

I finally figured it out. You're Batman.

warspite1

Fatman would be more accurate.....

I understand. I am sorry. I promise that I will make no further attempts to blow your cover.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/26/2015 6:55:20 AM

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LEWIS, LEWIS, LEWIS!!!!!!!!!!!

3-time World Champion. Well done matey!!! Totally deserved, top, top man.

And Austin - what a circuit, what a race. Let's hope this one stays on the calendar for many years to come.

And finally a word on Nico. If Lewis is as good as I believe him to be, then it has to be said that Rosberg has defied expectation (remember this was the guy released by Williams as they were unsure of his ability) and proved himself incredibly fast and has had some superb races.

Let's see what the final 3 races bring and then bring on 2016!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/26/2015 12:54:03 PM

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That was fun, if really wet.

I've never seen open cockpit racing with All Terrain tires before.

I'm gonna disagree with Lewis. Yes, he won the championship. Yes, he can drive. But he is no champion, IMHO. The way he drove was not that of a champion, it was more of a thug. But hey, Andretti did it as well and look what it got him

Ah well, I guess being a sportsman, having ethics, being a true professional, is gone

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/26/2015 9:22:11 PM

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LEWIS, LEWIS, LEWIS!!!!!!!!!!!

3-time World Champion. Well done matey!!! Totally deserved, top, top man.

And Austin - what a circuit, what a race. Let's hope this one stays on the calendar for many years to come.

And finally a word on Nico. If Lewis is as good as I believe him to be, then it has to be said that Rosberg has defied expectation (remember this was the guy released by Williams as they were unsure of his ability) and proved himself incredibly fast and has had some superb races.

Let's see what the final 3 races bring and then bring on 2016!

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/26/2015 10:30:48 PM

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LEWIS, LEWIS, LEWIS!!!!!!!!!!!

3-time World Champion. Well done matey!!! Totally deserved, top, top man.

And Austin - what a circuit, what a race. Let's hope this one stays on the calendar for many years to come.

And finally a word on Nico. If Lewis is as good as I believe him to be, then it has to be said that Rosberg has defied expectation (remember this was the guy released by Williams as they were unsure of his ability) and proved himself incredibly fast and has had some superb races.

Let's see what the final 3 races bring and then bring on 2016!

warspite1

Wow - never realised that Lewis is the first man to win at least 10 Grand Prix in consecutive seasons! Thought Schumacher must have done that! Apparently not....

Another milestone for you there Lewis - as well as being the only man to win a Grand Prix in every season competed in F1 in

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/28/2015 2:21:54 AM

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Once again, Hamilton pulling a stunt at the start. I wish he would have flipped his car over on that one. Too bad Nico f'ed up. I hope Nico drives super aggressive these last races and slams into Hamilton every chance he gets.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/28/2015 5:59:01 AM

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Once again, Hamilton pulling a stunt at the start. I wish he would have flipped his car over on that one. Too bad Nico f'ed up. I hope Nico drives super aggressive these last races and slams into Hamilton every chance he gets.

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Great Plan?

And how does that work out? So Rosberg 'slams into Lewis' every chance he gets. This potentially gifts three wins to Ferrari and seals second place in the championship to Vettel, despite Mercedes having the best car.

Yes, I must say that's a really sensible, mature, well worked plan of action. In addition to Nico looking a muppet, he would deny his own chances of more Grand Prix wins (you know how important these are to a driver don't you?), he would potentially finish third with far and away the best car and his reputation would be in tatters. No way the Mercedes top brass would sack Rosberg after such a mindless plan of action eh?

Double Standards?

Look, you don't like Lewis, I get that. But as I have said before, I do not care what you think of him personally - that's up to you. But as far as racing is concerned I do find your double standards totally bemusing.

You have got totally bent out of shape because Lewis has taken firm (lets say very firm in the last race) but fair action against Nico in the last two races. By the way, I do not expect you to take my word for it - I am just a fan. However it is interesting that most commentary from racing drivers and expert motor sport journalists has supported Lewis on his actions.

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I used to root against Schumacher every race since he joined Ferrari. But in the end, I came to admire and respect him. The amount of Championships is the measurement to compare across the generations

So lets be absolutely crystal clear here. Schumacher cheated Damon Hill out of the championship in 1994 by barging into him after he had taken his own car out of the race with a mistake (not to mention the other rumours that have always failed to go away).

http://www.vitalf1.com/article.asp?a=665

Schumacher was banned from the championship in 1997 for trying the same cheating manoeuvre against Jacques Villeneuve. That time the move failed and instead of taking out the Canadian, he damaged his own car, Nonetheless the FIA, recognising the barely disguised act of blatant cheating, removed his points and his 2nd place in the championships.

He famously tried to cheat Alonso of pole at Monaco by simply stopping his car on track during qualifying.

In his comeback season he almost sent his former team mate, Rubens Barrichello, into the next world by trying to wipe him out against the pit wall rather than be overtaken.

Nothing to do with cheating but further context on the seven world championship wins: In winning those Ferrari titles Schumacher had outright No.1 status and even had special tyres made only for him. Lewis has never had - nor asked for - such support from the team and the tyre support is absolutely unheard of.

So Schumacher can do all this - and you respect and admire him. But as a racing driver you cannot stand Lewis' 'aggressive' driving... Er.. as shown above, anything that Lewis has done pales into insignificance against Schumacher... but okay....

Why don't you just come out and say it: You criticise Lewis as a driver because:

a) you dislike the man intensely as a person (fair enough and your call) - and as a result -
b) you cannot be objective in your analysis of his driving.

There is no other explanation for how you can admire Schumacher and criticise Lewis given their respective track records.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/28/2015 1:22:32 PM

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I'm still really new to this sport, so my view is a bit juvenile. But in watching the DVR after we got home from the race Lewis crew chief can be heard after the hard yellow around lap 42 saying "Lets have a clean start this time". I'm not intelligent enough on this to go off on a rant, but one wonders on hearing that. Also, the replay on Lewis car clearly shows he did not steer as clear on that first blind turn as he does in later turns, so it was not a mechanical issue.

Rosberg had it & lost it towards the end. That is clear. And Lewis did win by the rules. And I will leave it at that.

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RE: New Grand Prix Season Is Almost Upon Us!!! - 10/28/2015 3:17:01 PM

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Warspite: You may be surprised by my answer, but you have that just about right. I remember hating Schumacher for all the BS he was up to all those years, and you did a good job highlighting some of those incidents, which are just a tiny fraction of what he did. It seemed to me when I was watching him in real time that he was up to something every weekend.

Why I forgive Schumacher: His return to Mercedes (my favorite team) in 2010 has something to do with it, but mostly I have to admit he really made watching F1 all those years a lot of fun...he kept my interest in F1 and looking forward to every race and season. At the time I was very aggravated. His recent injury also has something to do with it perhaps.

F1 has become somewhat boring to me recently (I must agree I love the Austin track and look forward to going there perhaps next season). I like Mercedes dominance, and some of the changes F1 have made I agree with, but I think some of the coolness factors are missing (esp. the engine sound).

Ok, let me revise my remarks as to what Nico should do...now that Hamilton has won, Mercedes should have no problem with Nico being as aggressive as he needs to be. Mercedes from their team view point should let Hamilton know they wont appreciate him f'ing with Nico...perhaps supporting him (yes, I hate team orders, and its not what I want to see, but I'm role playing Mercedes management). I think Nico cant really look that good anyway if: 1. He gets any assists from Hamilton, or 2. Hamilton is seen as holding back in any way...ie...driving in a relaxed manner now that he's won the Championship. Sad that this is what we have to look forward to in the final races. I think I'm done with Nico after this season.

My hatred for Hamilton has me so off balance that I never thought I would say this, but I am considering becoming a Ferrari fan next season...or as long as Hamilton drives for Mercedes.

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