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4.6 - 8/23/2012 9:32:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK. Just looked. You are correct with the error.

The following AOs SHOULD be allowed to convert to CVE Sangamon Class: Neosho, Sabine, Kaskaskia, Cimarron, Platte, and Guadalupe.

Looks like we started the work and simply did not finish it. FRUSTRATING. We will correct this with 5.0. have decided to jump from 4.6 to 5.0 due to having (hopefully) nearly all the early war issues resolved. We need more feedback from RA Campaigns moving into mid-to-late war time periods. As people move into mid-43 and later, PLEASE let us know what problems/issues you might be seeing.

Am taking my family out camping and fishing Fri Night and back Mon night. Will work on the 5.0 release at that point. It should not be too difficult. Probably need just 4-6 hours to get everything done and tested.

Sorry for taking so long on this guys!


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RE: Reluctant Admiral 4.5 - 8/23/2012 10:28:03 PM   
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OK, thanks John. After reading Garys threat and playing you mod, I thought I might be interested in making a mod that had no basis in history or reality, but was simply a good game mod.


Two big problems:

(1)The farther we are from reality, the harder it is to keep things balanced and maintain verissimilitude.

(2)Art issues. Currently we must rely on people kindly providing us help whenever we introduce new ships or planes.


2 is not a problem, I don't expect to use any new artwork. 1 is always a problem and I hope to get things right.


Also, forgot to say - I think JuanG's mods already cover fantasy-boosted Pacific War pretty well. If we manage to return to seriously working on modding (I hope - but my best intentions are getting repeatedly smashed by unpredictable work schedule, well, at least at this rate I'll soon have enough monies to collect every English book on Japanese side of Pacific War that is worth collecting and can be reasonably obtained through Internet shopping), I think getting Perfect War off the ground is the best we can do, never mentioning that abandoning it will be a very bad tone towards all the people who already done large parts of work on that mod.

If that is ever finished... well completely alternative scenarious of WW II (if the engine even allows to write different coalitions...) likely will be only remaining venue by that point).



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RE: 4.6 - 8/23/2012 10:28:49 PM   
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OK. Just looked. You are correct with the error.

The following AOs SHOULD be allowed to convert to CVE Sangamon Class: Neosho, Sabine, Kaskaskia, Cimarron, Platte, and Guadalupe.

Looks like we started the work and simply did not finish it. FRUSTRATING. We will correct this with 5.0. have decided to jump from 4.6 to 5.0 due to having (hopefully) nearly all the early war issues resolved. We need more feedback from RA Campaigns moving into mid-to-late war time periods. As people move into mid-43 and later, PLEASE let us know what problems/issues you might be seeing.

Am taking my family out camping and fishing Fri Night and back Mon night. Will work on the 5.0 release at that point. It should not be too difficult. Probably need just 4-6 hours to get everything done and tested.

Sorry for taking so long on this guys!


Don't forget to fix the issues with aircrafr engines' time of availaibility. Or I can check that before posting flies.

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RE: 4.6 - 8/24/2012 12:15:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK John, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I will have to do without them. I'll post anything I think is an error when I see it.

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RE: 4.6 - 8/29/2012 6:35:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gentlemen,

CA Maya begins the game as class 1128, and can convert to class 1129 on 4 '42... but that is it?!?!?!
Classes 1130-1132 are defined, but nothing points to classes 1130 or 1131, and there are no conversion bindings to them either.

Would you mind checking that?

Thanks!

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RE: 4.6 - 9/3/2012 3:11:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I am checking out version 4.6

First problem was that when I followed the install procedure it didn't work. There was no scenario listed in game. So I had to go to WITPAE->SCEN->RA4.6 folder and take those .dat files and move them to the SCEN folder with all the other scenarios. Not sure why doesn't unzip that way to begin with but now upon reloading the game the scenario is available.

Second thing I noticed is that american AA values on their ships are WAY higher. Prince of Wales for instance starts with a AAA value over 2000 when in the standard scenario it is 1084. Japanese ships seem to have the same AA value. What's up with this massive boost to alled AA? Huge hidden changes like that make me not want to play this mod.

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RE: 4.6 - 9/3/2012 4:03:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Sir.

Let us know if you continue having issues getting it installed. The process can be fairly daunting if you haven't done it before.

The AA questions sits along a Da Babes improvement line. The Team that developed Da Babes made a bunch of AA changes and RA is based off of their good and hard work.


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RE: 4.6 - 9/6/2012 3:45:50 PM   
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Will any update work with games in progress?

Small not when a damaged Akisuki come out of shipyard in March 42 - it comes back having done the early 43 upgrade including radar - nice but maybe not intended?

Also Junyo arrives with radar early 42 is that intended?

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RE: 4.6 - 9/6/2012 3:46:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can I also ask about the missing plane art zero 3b and Rita etc??

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RE: 4.6 - 9/6/2012 4:29:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes: Junyo comes in with the early radar. We premised an earlier arrival of radar for the Japanese CVs being constructed for 1942 and then added as an upgrade with existing CVs.

Can you tell me the exact DD you mention. It ARRIVES with the upgrade already done? Need some clarification on that.

Not sure about the art. Thought that that was fixed. FatR: Didn't we get that handled?

Most of what we're doing is attaching artwork or simply database updates so it SHOULD be safe to update an existing game. The players have to hit the yes/accept data changes prompt when it appears.


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RE: 4.6 - 9/6/2012 4:29:31 PM   
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RE: 4.6 - 9/6/2012 4:53:37 PM   
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A new one arrived with radar and higher AA in about march but the other was already on the map but upgraded and added radar after shipyard repair after collision at Kobe I think? I have now a total of 2 of these lovely DD on the map.

Sorry I cannot remember the names.

I can send you the next turn if you want to take a look we are in April 42.

please mail me and I will send directly to you gingerdragon@btconnect.com

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RE: 4.6 - 9/6/2012 5:34:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		In starting this work, I'd like people to look at stuff they have mentioned that need to be done. As work progresses I shall Post and do continuous updates to changes.

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RE: 4.6 - 9/6/2012 6:10:36 PM   
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Not sure about the art. Thought that that was fixed. FatR: Didn't we get that handled?

It must be available for download on site right now.

Didn't track all of the issues, but remember to check dates of engine availability for all engines that arrive during the war, so that they are not far behind the planes that use them (particularly Mitsubishi Ha-42).




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RE: 4.6 - 9/8/2012 6:41:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		John, I've found another minor air glitch (max load 0 for N1K4-A, this does not actually impact anything important, AFAIK, but should be fixed just in case) and also learned the hard way, that "DT Ordnance" must be checked for a plane to not have drop tanks cancel its bombload. A few Jap planes, like late-war Zeros, to my knowledge, should be able to take off with both. If you wish I can add fixes to the air side myself when you send me the files for posting on the site.

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RE: 4.6 - 9/8/2012 11:34:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Also, John, another thought, that I come upon checking the current state of my work for the Perfect War, but which can be applied here, is reclassification of E16A1 Paul as floatplane, instead of divebomber. Sure, it had divebombing capability, but its primary use was exactly the same as E13A IRL. As a divebomber there are not much reasons to build it, because land-based divebomber planes are clearly superior and size 2 airfields are easier to come by than extra air support by the time it is available. As a floatplane, it might provide extra short-range offensive capability, in exchange for gimped search/ASW usefulness next to E15A.

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RE: 4.6 - 9/13/2012 5:45:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks FatR. Will work on those ideas.

SuluSea: If you are out there might you be up for a small art project?


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RE: 4.6 - 9/13/2012 6:12:29 PM   
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Thanks FatR. Will work on those ideas.

SuluSea: If you are out there might you be up for a small art project?


Hi John, what do you have in mind?



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RE: 4.6 - 9/14/2012 4:15:47 PM   
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Hi John, what do you have in mind?



Not about that (most likely), but I also wanted to ask you: can you help us with the art for Perfect War mod? The work was long abandoned, but by now I have time for it again. I've recently finished work on aircraft stats (and currently I'm rereading the mod thread, to update myself on what we agreed upon about the naval side of things), but some art is needed - nothing too fancy, mostly recolors for existing planetops and planesides to make different or changed models distinguishable to players, plus a few planes whose prototypes existed IRL, so I can provide images of them.

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RE: 4.6 - 9/14/2012 4:54:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sulu: I was thinking some differing screens for the other boilerplate moments that appear ever turn. Perhaps something for the Surface battle screen? You have gotten the loading screens down and they are beautiful for either the Allied or Japanese player. So just something there would seem to be about it. Is there anything else that could be played with?


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RE: 4.6 - 9/15/2012 1:49:13 PM   
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Hi John, what do you have in mind?



Not about that (most likely), but I also wanted to ask you: can you help us with the art for Perfect War mod? The work was long abandoned, but by now I have time for it again. I've recently finished work on aircraft stats (and currently I'm rereading the mod thread, to update myself on what we agreed upon about the naval side of things), but some art is needed - nothing too fancy, mostly recolors for existing planetops and planesides to make different or changed models distinguishable to players, plus a few planes whose prototypes existed IRL, so I can provide images of them.

Hi FatR, I'd like to help but don't have the available time to commit to a project. I have a project of my own that I've made no progress on in maybe 6 weeks , mother in law battling cancer, wife getting operated on just recently and some other family commitments my plate is full. With everything going on some days I don't have time for my own gaming.... Sorry

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RE: 4.6 - 9/15/2012 2:02:19 PM   
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Sulu: I was thinking some differing screens for the other boilerplate moments that appear ever turn. Perhaps something for the Surface battle screen? You have gotten the loading screens down and they are beautiful for either the Allied or Japanese player. So just something there would seem to be about it. Is there anything else that could be played with?


Hi John, I thought you may have needed a ship/plane in a pinch. I remade a combat screen that's at Big B's shipyard along with the others that they have done.




The issue with doing one screen and changing the font or style is everything fits together. Change one and it will look out of place unless the others are done as well.

Sorry.


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RE: 4.6 - 9/15/2012 3:47:48 PM   
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Hi FatR, I'd like to help but don't have the available time to commit to a project. I have a project of my own that I've made no progress on in maybe 6 weeks , mother in law battling cancer, wife getting operated on just recently and some other family commitments my plate is full. With everything going on some days I don't have time for my own gaming.... Sorry

Thanks for the response anyway, I wish you and your family the best of luck.

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RE: 4.6 - 9/17/2012 4:01:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sulu: Could you send that battle screen over to me?

Sorry for no movement here but life is pretty busy at the moment. Should change once we move our Caboose here.


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RE: 4.6 - 9/27/2012 11:46:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know everyone working on this is busy, but is there any news about version 5.0?

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RE: 4.6 - 9/28/2012 7:02:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Dan.

I started to compile my list of fixes and improvements and haven't gotten much further then that. My family is going to Kansas City next week for a short trip and I plan to get this done right after that. Sorry for taking sooooooo long on this but life has certainly gotten in the way of late...



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RE: 4.6 - 11/7/2012 3:51:38 PM   
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Sulu: Could you send that battle screen over to me?

Sorry for no movement here but life is pretty busy at the moment. Should change once we move our Caboose here.




Sulu I never got the file you showed above. Could you resend it?


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Reluctant Admiral 5.0 - 11/7/2012 3:53:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK. Life is beginning to settle down in the Cochran Household so it is time to get this work done so we can get RA 5.0 released.

I started the other Thread for a Wish list but got little response so I will do all the work from here. If you have issues, concerns, RA suggestions, please Post here and we can get moving on this project!


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RE: 4.6 - 11/7/2012 7:44:55 PM   
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Gentlemen,

CA Maya begins the game as class 1128, and can convert to class 1129 on 4 '42... but that is it?!?!?!
Classes 1130-1132 are defined, but nothing points to classes 1130 or 1131, and there are no conversion bindings to them either.

Would you mind checking that?

Thanks!



I saw this as well and advised John
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RE: 4.6 - 11/7/2012 7:45:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dare I ask - will the new version work with existing games??? 5.0 to 4.6??

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