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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/25/2021 6:47:46 PM   
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The wrong type of football.


But the one I actually follow




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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/30/2021 2:59:17 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/30/2021 6:57:58 AM   
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I mean don't get me wrong, he clearly is a successful manager (albeit one with oodles of money) - but some kind of genius? Don't make me laugh.

He last won the CL 10 years ago with Messi and co and since then has failed spectacularly.

Last night was the perfect example of why I pour so much opprobrium on him. The biggest game ever for Man City - and a big game for him as he was hoping to join the ranks of the three time winners - and what does he do?

He plays a team that he has never ever picked, he ignores BOTH of Fernandinho and Rodri and he brings back Sterling. I mean what the hell?

Well they lost and they thoroughly deserved to because their manager thinks he's too clever by half.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/30/2021 4:48:51 PM   
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University of Cincinnati mourning death of 21-year-old soccer player Ally Sidloski

The student drowned and her body was recovered hours later, authorities said.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/2/2021 4:46:04 PM   
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Drone skirmish as Chile football team fears Argentine spies

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57328458

As football rivalries go, the one between Chile and Argentina is up there among the fiercest.

So it should come as no surprise that when Chile's national team saw a drone hovering above a training session, it suspected its rival of spying ahead of Thursday's World Cup qualifier.

The team sent up its own drone which swiftly brought down the "spy-cam".

But rather than being a devious Argentine device, the drone turned out to be from a Chilean energy company.

The incident happened just days before the two sides are due to meet in a World Cup qualifier on Thursday.

The Chilean team was training at the Juan Pinto Durán stadium in the capital, Santiago, when players spotted the drone.

Local media report that it was Chile's manager, Martín Lasarte, who decided to send up a drone owned by the Chilean team to check out the suspicious object.

The two drones clashed in what Chile's National Professional Football Association has since labelled "an accident", but which reporters who witnessed it think was a deliberate act.

But rather than having foiled a spying attempt, it transpired that the Chilean team had taken down a device owned by energy company Enel, which said it was checking on street lighting.

Reporter Cristian Alvarado from Radio Agricultura posted footage of the two drones in the air and how they were subsequently retrieved.

Football managers have complained about drones attempting to spy on their teams before. In 2014, France manager Didier Deschamps asked Fifa to carry out an investigation after a drone hovered over the French training camp in Brazil ahead of its opening World Cup game against Honduras.

In 2017, Honduras accused Australia of using a drone to spy on its team during preparations for a World Cup qualifier. The team tweeted footage of the incident.

And there have been instances of spying at top clubs, too. German team Werder Bremen in 2018 admitted flying a drone over Hoffenheim's training ground and apologised for "any nervousness this may have caused" among Hoffenheim players.

While allegations of spying with drones have become more common, some managers still resort to more old-fashioned methods.

In 2019, Leeds United made a formal apology after its head coach, Marcelo Bielsa, had admitted sending a member of staff to watch Derby County train.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/2/2021 5:32:54 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/4/2021 2:16:11 PM   
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The Football Club That Won 0 Points This Season...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myVP7VJ5UdQ

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/9/2021 4:07:09 PM   
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With Copa America 2021 and Euro 2020 about to kick off, it's time for.....

... Stadium Porn...

The stadiums of Copa America 21: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGqK900SEd4

The stadiums of Euro 2020 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_72vjBq6Dg

Enjoy.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/9/2021 6:05:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		England actually have some really promising young players available for this tournament. Sadly, historically our tactics seem to be the same regardless of who is available or who is picked.

I have absolutely no doubt England will remain true to form and for this tournament I see one of two outcomes:

Scenario 1

We lose or draw to Croatia, then under pressure, we lose or draw against Scotland (we won't lose both) and then finish off with a scraped victory or draw against Czech. Maximum points = 4. Result: exit at group stage.

Scenario 2

We beat Croatia, fall over ourselves with ridiculously mis-placed optimism and draw or lose with Scotland. We manage to do enough against Czech to qualify. Result: we make it to last 16 but fail to top the group and so lose home advantage and tamely lose to Spain, Poland or Sweden in the round of the last 16.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/9/2021 7:16:40 PM   
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England actually have some really promising young players available for this tournament. Sadly, historically our tactics seem to be the same regardless of who is available or who is picked.

I have absolutely no doubt England will remain true to form and for this tournament I see one of two outcomes:

Scenario 1

We lose or draw to Croatia, then under pressure, we lose or draw against Scotland (we won't lose both) and then finish off with a scraped victory or draw against Czech. Maximum points = 4. Result: exit at group stage.

Scenario 2

We beat Croatia, fall over ourselves with ridiculously mis-placed optimism and draw or lose with Scotland. We manage to do enough against Czech to qualify. Result: we make it to last 16 but fail to top the group and so lose home advantage and tamely lose to Spain, Poland or Sweden in the round of the last 16.

Nah. England will win their group.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/9/2021 7:57:45 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLraDrywXOA

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/9/2021 10:29:04 PM   
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England actually have some really promising young players available for this tournament. Sadly, historically our tactics seem to be the same regardless of who is available or who is picked.

I have absolutely no doubt England will remain true to form and for this tournament I see one of two outcomes:

Scenario 1

We lose or draw to Croatia, then under pressure, we lose or draw against Scotland (we won't lose both) and then finish off with a scraped victory or draw against Czech. Maximum points = 4. Result: exit at group stage.

Scenario 2

We beat Croatia, fall over ourselves with ridiculously mis-placed optimism and draw or lose with Scotland. We manage to do enough against Czech to qualify. Result: we make it to last 16 but fail to top the group and so lose home advantage and tamely lose to Spain, Poland or Sweden in the round of the last 16.

Im pretty optimistic on England’s chances this year. Do I think they’re favorites? No, but I could see them advancing to the later stages. I think a big difference is this year this crop of youth talent compared to past years is these kids have turned into winners with their club football. Some of these guys younger then 22 have already one champions league, PL, FA Cup, Europa competitions which I think will serve them well. They’ve had a chance for the last couple years to prove themselves at the club level.

I do agree though that tactics could be the undoing, not sure how Southgate will fair against the current crop of national managers.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/10/2021 8:35:24 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/10/2021 11:13:03 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 11:54:44 AM   
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Skydiver Gets Yellow Card After Landing in the Middle of Polish Soccer Game


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 2:37:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good luck today to everyone as the Euros kickoff! Hopefully we have an exciting tournament!

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 3:56:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		First game up is Italy v Turkey at the Olimpico Stadium in Rome.

Italy are probably favourites, particularly with home advantage, but Turkey are well fancied to have good tournament.

It's going to be fascinating.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 5:09:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today's job: we moved ALL the tables so that the customers will be able to face the GIGASCREEN that each and every restaurant in Italy must have during a soccer event (some will have people sitting normally, but in others all people will sit on a side, so to be all able to face the screen; I privately called the latter "The Last Supper's ones", but in times of COVID it seems in bad taste).

Ah, the joys of revolutionizing the layout and to follow the match through the screams of the customers (over the years I learned to tell exactly what just happened by the kind of scream alone. A dejected "NOOOOOOOOOOOH!" means a goal for the other team, "EUYUYUYUEYAAAAAH... ... .... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!" means a narrowly failed goal for the supported one, and so on). Isn't reopening great?

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 6:58:07 PM   
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Today's job: we moved ALL the tables so that the customers will be able to face the GIGASCREEN that each and every restaurant in Italy must have during a soccer event (some will have people sitting normally, but in others all people will sit on a side, so to be all able to face the screen; I privately called the latter "The Last Supper's ones", but in times of COVID it seems in bad taste).

Ah, the joys of revolutionizing the layout and to follow the match through the screams of the customers (over the years I learned to tell exactly what just happened by the kind of scream alone. A dejected "NOOOOOOOOOOOH!" means a goal for the other team, "EUYUYUYUEYAAAAAH... ... .... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!" means a narrowly failed goal for the supported one, and so on). Isn't reopening great?


Have fun and enjoy life!

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 7:52:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turkey play very much like Spurs:

- The goalkeeper's distribution is rubbish
- They play too many backwards and sidewards as their first thought
- When they do play it forward its rushed and decision making is poor
- And then there was the free kick on the stroke of half time.... good...grief...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 8:06:29 PM   
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Turkey play very much like Spurs:

- The goalkeeper's distribution is rubbish
- They play too many backwards and sidewards as their first thought
- When they do play it forward its rushed and decision making is poor
- And then there was the free kick on the stroke of half time.... good...grief...

Agreed.

Italy's high press is possibly counter-productive. When you have a team that appeals for a penalty every time a Turkish player touches the ball in the penalty area then you have team that has no confidence in their ability to score goals from open play. Ease off the press, draw the Turks out and get more room for you own forwards.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 8:54:16 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 9:06:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		....and the second half was even worse. That was truly like watching Spurs play - soooo bad. They weren't a team, had no midfield and were really poor.

In fairness to Italy, they had the right attitude from minute 1. They played like a team, attacked and defended as units.

For an opening game that was very enjoyable - often dull affairs, this was very good.

On to Wales vs Switzerland and the all Scandi affair - Denmark vs Finland later.

C'mon Wales!!

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 9:10:28 PM   
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Disappointed with the Turks. Not hugely impressed with the Italians. They did what they had to do against a mediocre side. They certainly worked hard. First goal was an own goal. Last goal was Turkey self-destructing curtesy of a goalkeeper whose distribution throughout the game was poor. I need to see more from the Italians to make any kind of reasonable assessment. My thinking so far is that Italy should not have any particular problem qualifying from the group. Not sure I see them as semi-finalists but the jury is still out on that one.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 9:18:23 PM   
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For an opening game that was very enjoyable - often dull affairs, this was very good.

On to Wales vs Switzerland and the all Scandi affair - Denmark vs Finland later.

C'mon Wales!!

Nice to see an Italian team with a positive mentality from the kick off.

And yes indeed... cheering on Wales tomorrow.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 9:19:34 PM   
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Italy 3 Turkey 0

Disappointed with the Turks. Not hugely impressed with the Italians. They did what they had to do against a mediocre side. They certainly worked hard. First goal was an own goal. Last goal was Turkey self-destructing curtesy of a goalkeeper whose distribution throughout the game was poor. I need to see more from the Italians to make any kind of reasonable assessment. My thinking so far is that Italy should not have any particular problem qualifying from the group. Not sure I see them as semi-finalists but the jury is still out on that one.

Best wishes,
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Yes, football can be difficult to gauge as a team having a stinker can make another look like world beaters.

My assessment of Italy was perhaps a little more positive than yours. But I don't buy into the Jermaine Jenas guff that Turkey were 'tired'. That is pathetic. I think they expected a tight, typical first game, and decided to play not to lose. It was Italy that had other ideas and, imo, their attitude made Turkey look even worse than they otherwise would have been.

My poor view on England is that, tactically, we can rarely (and never when it matters) do what Italy did tonight and play with an attacking, fast paced game. Our game is more akin to Turkey, whereby passing backwards and sideways IS the end goal. I think we'll know more when we find out if Grealish and Foden start or not.

But I agree, its too early to make judgements of ultimate potential based off one match.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/11/2021 9:33:53 PM   
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Italy 3 Turkey 0

Disappointed with the Turks. Not hugely impressed with the Italians. They did what they had to do against a mediocre side. They certainly worked hard. First goal was an own goal. Last goal was Turkey self-destructing curtesy of a goalkeeper whose distribution throughout the game was poor. I need to see more from the Italians to make any kind of reasonable assessment. My thinking so far is that Italy should not have any particular problem qualifying from the group. Not sure I see them as semi-finalists but the jury is still out on that one.

Best wishes,
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Yes, football can be difficult to gauge as a team having a stinker can make another look like world beaters.

My assessment of Italy was perhaps a little more positive than yours. But I don't buy into the Jermaine Jenas guff that Turkey were 'tired'. That is pathetic. I think they expected a tight, typical first game, and decided to play not to lose. It was Italy that had other ideas and, imo, their attitude made Turkey look even worse than they otherwise would have been.

My poor view on England is that, tactically, we can rarely (and never when it matters) do what Italy did tonight and play with an attacking, fast paced game. Our game is more akin to Turkey, whereby passing backwards and sideways IS the end goal. I think we'll know more when we find out if Grealish and Foden start or not.

But I agree, its too early to make judgements of ultimate potential based off one match.


I would be happier with the Italians if they had created more chances for all their dominance. Not convinced they can score many goals from open play. You are probably right that the Turks planned for and expected a tighter, dull affair in which they thought they could earn a draw. The Italians surprised them and they never really recovered.

England.... are traditional tournament bottlers. Southgate was a defender and it shows a bit in his tactics. I really hope they surprise me. Tournament games are to be won. You either say damn the consequences and go all out to win or you go "safety first" which is nothing or the sort and disappoint everyone.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/12/2021 12:02:11 AM   
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England actually have some really promising young players available for this tournament. Sadly, historically our tactics seem to be the same regardless of who is available or who is picked.

I have absolutely no doubt England will remain true to form and for this tournament I see one of two outcomes:

Scenario 1

We lose or draw to Croatia, then under pressure, we lose or draw against Scotland (we won't lose both) and then finish off with a scraped victory or draw against Czech. Maximum points = 4. Result: exit at group stage.

Scenario 2

We beat Croatia, fall over ourselves with ridiculously mis-placed optimism and draw or lose with Scotland. We manage to do enough against Czech to qualify. Result: we make it to last 16 but fail to top the group and so lose home advantage and tamely lose to Spain, Poland or Sweden in the round of the last 16.


Very unlikely to lose to Scotland. They are a very very poor team.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/12/2021 5:02:02 AM   
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England actually have some really promising young players available for this tournament. Sadly, historically our tactics seem to be the same regardless of who is available or who is picked.

I have absolutely no doubt England will remain true to form and for this tournament I see one of two outcomes:

Scenario 1

We lose or draw to Croatia, then under pressure, we lose or draw against Scotland (we won't lose both) and then finish off with a scraped victory or draw against Czech. Maximum points = 4. Result: exit at group stage.

Scenario 2

We beat Croatia, fall over ourselves with ridiculously mis-placed optimism and draw or lose with Scotland. We manage to do enough against Czech to qualify. Result: we make it to last 16 but fail to top the group and so lose home advantage and tamely lose to Spain, Poland or Sweden in the round of the last 16.


Very unlikely to lose to Scotland. They are a very very poor team.

warspite1

Well lets hope you are right wodin but I think you are forgetting that this is a derby - and anything can happen in a derby, form goes out of the window.

Just three years ago we needed a bit of Harry Kane magic two and a half minutes into stoppage time to avoid defeat in a World Cup qualifier. The Scotland team that day was not as good as the current squad under Clarke (a good man and a good manager).

Who can forget the play offs for Euro 2000. We comfortably beat Scotland away 0-2, setting up a nice easy, comfortable second leg at Wembley.... what happened? Scotland were far the better side and it was only their perennial problem of lack of goals that saw them go out 1-2 on aggregate. Still beat us on the night though.

Yes we should beat Scotland based on individual player quality and experience - but as said, this is a derby and a game Scotland are always up for.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/12/2021 5:12:23 AM   
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Why do England do this? Sterling appears out of form and has lost his regular starting place for Man City. But despite that, we are potentially going to bench either Grealish or Foden so that he can start.

Let's hope the papers have this wrong.

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England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805



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