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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 8:26:19 AM   
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Italy 2-1 Austria

The Austrians pushed the Italians to the end. This result perhaps says more about Italy than anything from the group stage.

They didn't play well in the second half but rode their luck a little and dug in to grind out the result. They have a lot of quality options on the bench too.

Yes, Italy are contenders for Euro 2020.

Unlucky Austria though.

Hmmm...

I don't know much more about the Italians than I did after the first game they played. Decent team. Getatable. Still don't know if they are semi-final candidates although I am sure they will try. It's a breath of fresh air to see a Italian team go into games with a positive mental attitude. I wish them well.

Austria won a lot of friends last night. Overall, they are going home with their heads held high. And that's a good thing.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 8:40:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Games today in the last sixteen....

Netherland's Stamppot take on Czech Republic's Vepro-knedlo-zelo
Belgium's Moules-Frites versus Portugal's Bacalhau

A feast! The Netherlands game should be interesting and I want to more from both the Dutch and the Czechs. Belgium v Portugal is probably pick of the day... a tussle between two teams that have gone to seed a little bit. So, predilections are invited or predictions if you must.

Best wishes,
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 8:49:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shunwick

Games today in the last sixteen....

Netherland's Stamppot take on Czech Republic's Vepro-knedlo-zelo
Belgium's Moules-Frites versus Portugal's Bacalhau

A feast! The Netherlands game should be interesting and I want to more from both the Dutch and the Czechs. Belgium v Portugal is probably pick of the day... a tussle between two teams that have gone to seed a little bit. So, predilections are invited or predictions if you must.

Best wishes,
Steve


warspite1

Well, I have a predilection for the Dutch - thanks to Holland 1974 and 1978, don't mind the Czechs, while I used to like Belgium (unlucky in 1986) and Portugal (1966, Britain's oldest ally, Red and Green, and all that) but dislike both football nations now...

But predictions?

The Dutch are probably favourites, but I don't think the Czechs are pushovers and the Dutch do have de Boer in charge .

This is a difficult one to call, and frankly I have more concerns that the game will even be finished let alone thinking about the score. I'll say no more on that as it will stray into politics, so assuming the match does complete, I am just leaning toward a Dutch victory.

Belgium vs Portugal should be tasty - so will probably be a drab affair .

Both teams have quality in attack, but are suspect in defence. The two Belgian central defenders have a combined age of 115. So I will predict both teams will attack and we will have a 3-2. Who to? I am going to go with Belgium I think.... but as I'm writing this I'm thinking that the Ronaldo story probably has more to go.....

Ahhhh I don't know....Belgium.. no Portugal...er Belgium...no, Portugal....

Let's go with Belgium.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 9:07:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shunwick

Games today in the last sixteen....

Netherland's Stamppot take on Czech Republic's Vepro-knedlo-zelo
Belgium's Moules-Frites versus Portugal's Bacalhau

A feast! The Netherlands game should be interesting and I want to more from both the Dutch and the Czechs. Belgium v Portugal is probably pick of the day... a tussle between two teams that have gone to seed a little bit. So, predilections are invited or predictions if you must.

Best wishes,
Steve


warspite1

Well, I have a predilection for the Dutch - thanks to Holland 1974 and 1978...


Like you, I had soft spot for the Dutch from 74 and 78 teams. They lost that good will in the 2010 World Cup Final though. One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery that I do not forgive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPX4EDY4hw

Best wishes,
Steve

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 9:27:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: shunwick

Games today in the last sixteen....

Netherland's Stamppot take on Czech Republic's Vepro-knedlo-zelo
Belgium's Moules-Frites versus Portugal's Bacalhau

A feast! The Netherlands game should be interesting and I want to more from both the Dutch and the Czechs. Belgium v Portugal is probably pick of the day... a tussle between two teams that have gone to seed a little bit. So, predilections are invited or predictions if you must.

Best wishes,
Steve


warspite1

Well, I have a predilection for the Dutch - thanks to Holland 1974 and 1978...


... One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery...

Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1

Tres, tres true. But I am not sure there are any players left from then and certainly not the coach who decided that assaulting the Spanish was the way to go.

So I understand your view, but that horror show from 11 years ago can't, for me at least, negate, Neeskens, Rep, Krol, Cruyff etc.

I was only 9 but remember the Dutch beating the Brazilians 2-0 so clearly even after all these years. Wonderful memories.





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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 9:39:55 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 11:34:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: shunwick

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: shunwick

Games today in the last sixteen....

Netherland's Stamppot take on Czech Republic's Vepro-knedlo-zelo
Belgium's Moules-Frites versus Portugal's Bacalhau

A feast! The Netherlands game should be interesting and I want to more from both the Dutch and the Czechs. Belgium v Portugal is probably pick of the day... a tussle between two teams that have gone to seed a little bit. So, predilections are invited or predictions if you must.

Best wishes,
Steve


warspite1

Well, I have a predilection for the Dutch - thanks to Holland 1974 and 1978...


... One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery...

Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1

Tres, tres true. But I am not sure there are any players left from then and certainly not the coach who decided that assaulting the Spanish was the way to go.

So I understand your view, but that horror show from 11 years ago can't, for me at least, negate, Neeskens, Rep, Krol, Cruyff etc.

I was only 9 but remember the Dutch beating the Brazilians 2-0 so clearly even after all these years. Wonderful memories.





Frank de Boer was assistant Dutch coach at the 2010 World Cup.

Best wishes,
Steve

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 12:40:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: shunwick

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: shunwick

Games today in the last sixteen....

Netherland's Stamppot take on Czech Republic's Vepro-knedlo-zelo
Belgium's Moules-Frites versus Portugal's Bacalhau

A feast! The Netherlands game should be interesting and I want to more from both the Dutch and the Czechs. Belgium v Portugal is probably pick of the day... a tussle between two teams that have gone to seed a little bit. So, predilections are invited or predictions if you must.

Best wishes,
Steve


warspite1

Well, I have a predilection for the Dutch - thanks to Holland 1974 and 1978...


... One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery...

Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1

Tres, tres true. But I am not sure there are any players left from then and certainly not the coach who decided that assaulting the Spanish was the way to go.

So I understand your view, but that horror show from 11 years ago can't, for me at least, negate, Neeskens, Rep, Krol, Cruyff etc.

I was only 9 but remember the Dutch beating the Brazilians 2-0 so clearly even after all these years. Wonderful memories.





Frank de Boer was assistant Dutch coach at the 2010 World Cup.

Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1

Fair enough - but as assistant I doubt it was his plan. But either way, and even if he was it doesn't trump my memories of 74 and 78 so I'll typically root for the Dutch. But that is just my personal view.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 3:48:48 PM   
shunwick


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: shunwick

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: shunwick

Games today in the last sixteen....

Netherland's Stamppot take on Czech Republic's Vepro-knedlo-zelo
Belgium's Moules-Frites versus Portugal's Bacalhau

A feast! The Netherlands game should be interesting and I want to more from both the Dutch and the Czechs. Belgium v Portugal is probably pick of the day... a tussle between two teams that have gone to seed a little bit. So, predilections are invited or predictions if you must.

Best wishes,
Steve


warspite1

Well, I have a predilection for the Dutch - thanks to Holland 1974 and 1978...


... One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery...

Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1

Tres, tres true. But I am not sure there are any players left from then and certainly not the coach who decided that assaulting the Spanish was the way to go.

So I understand your view, but that horror show from 11 years ago can't, for me at least, negate, Neeskens, Rep, Krol, Cruyff etc.

I was only 9 but remember the Dutch beating the Brazilians 2-0 so clearly even after all these years. Wonderful memories.





Frank de Boer was assistant Dutch coach at the 2010 World Cup.

Best wishes,
Steve
warspite1

Fair enough - but as assistant I doubt it was his plan. But either way, and even if he was it doesn't trump my memories of 74 and 78 so I'll typically root for the Dutch. But that is just my personal view.


Yes, I am not trying to change your mind merely to explain why I am ambivalent towards the Dutch. Karma came for the Dutch in the embarrassment at the Euro 2012 tournament. They got absolutely slaughtered by the press at home. Sentence served as far as I am concerned. They just no longer hold a soft spot in my heart.

Best wishes,
Steve

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 6:01:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Re: Italy - Austria, extra time means extra time for customers in the restaurant and extra alcohol/other orders (two dudes even ordered two new whole pizzas). So, extra time is good for business

I barely followed the match. From what I saw, Austria second biggest merit was to be able to play like Italy, passing often and trying to keep control of the ball. There was a symmetry between the two teams, which resulted in very few scoring opportunities.

Italy reminded me of the standard German squad in ASL: they never break, but when they do break they are difficult to rally. The team smashed right against Austria biggest merit: stamina. Everybody was sure that Austria couldn't sustain Italy's usual tempo. When they did, Italy almost panicked.

Austra was robbed twice by sheer misfortune. I'm glad that VAR now exists, but Austria was denied both a goal and a penalty by a question of centimeters, not by the ability of the Italian defenders.

Extra time was very tense. People started to relax after Italy's second goal. Big mistake. Austria struggled until the very end, scoring a deserved goal and leading to a frenzied finale.

Austria was quite better than expected while Italy underperformed. I feel that 2-1 for Italy reflects the overall performances, but had luck fallen the other way in a couple of moments we would have Austria facing either Portugal or Belgium.

I hope that this will be a good scare for Italy. Less complacency and more hard work.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 6:08:00 PM   
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Re: Italy - Austria, extra time means extra time for customers in the restaurant and extra alcohol/other orders (two dudes even ordered two new whole pizzas). So, extra time is good for business

I barely followed the match. From what I saw, Austria second biggest merit was to be able to play like Italy, passing often and trying to keep control of the ball. There was a symmetry between the two teams, which resulted in very few scoring opportunities.

Italy reminded me of the standard German squad in ASL: they never break, but when they do break they are difficult to rally. The team smashed right against Austria biggest merit: stamina. Everybody was sure that Austria couldn't sustain Italy's usual tempo. When they did, Italy almost panicked.

Austra was robbed twice by sheer misfortune. I'm glad that VAR now exists, but Austria was denied both a goal and a penalty by a question of centimeters, not by the ability of the Italian defenders.

Extra time was very tense. People started to relax after Italy's second goal. Big mistake. Austria struggled until the very end, scoring a deserved goal and leading to a frenzied finale.

Austria was quite better than expected while Italy underperformed. I feel that 2-1 for Italy reflects the overall performances, but had luck fallen the other way in a couple of moments we would have Austria facing either Portugal or Belgium.

I hope that this will be a good scare for Italy. Less complacency and more hard work.


For your sake, I hope that Italy keeps playing nail biters with lots of extra time!

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 6:15:11 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 6:41:16 PM   
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Like you, I had soft spot for the Dutch from 74 and 78 teams. They lost that good will in the 2010 World Cup Final though. One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery that I do not forgive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPX4EDY4hw


Nothing, however, will ever match "The Battle of Santiago" between Italy and Chile, with expelled players having to be pulled of the pitch by the Police (!), liberal use of kung-fu kicks, broken noses, further interventions by the Police (!!) and general violence for 90 uninterrupted minutes. It was so brutal than the referee, Ken Aston, ended up inventing the red and yellow cards. Think about that...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Santiago_(1962_FIFA_World_Cup)

The introduction to the match by BBC's David Coleman remains legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jVMSlpZhg

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 10:01:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: shunwick

Like you, I had soft spot for the Dutch from 74 and 78 teams. They lost that good will in the 2010 World Cup Final though. One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery that I do not forgive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPX4EDY4hw


Nothing, however, will ever match "The Battle of Santiago" between Italy and Chile, with expelled players having to be pulled of the pitch by the Police (!), liberal use of kung-fu kicks, broken noses, further interventions by the Police (!!) and general violence for 90 uninterrupted minutes. It was so brutal than the referee, Ken Aston, ended up inventing the red and yellow cards. Think about that...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Santiago_(1962_FIFA_World_Cup)

The introduction to the match by BBC's David Coleman remains legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jVMSlpZhg


Those clips remind me of hockey in the USA and Canada.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 10:07:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I stick to what I said, either France or England will be bagging this thing. Belgium made it: their golden generation is dying (their last chance to deliver?), I'd like to see them lifting the title. Talent deserves a reward.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 10:18:08 PM   
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I stick to what I said, either France or England will be bagging this thing. Belgium made it: their golden generation is dying (their last chance to deliver?)


What about the World Cup right next year?

We lost track of time a bit, but COVID compressed the timing between a lot of sport events.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 10:35:58 PM   
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Like you, I had soft spot for the Dutch from 74 and 78 teams. They lost that good will in the 2010 World Cup Final though. One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery that I do not forgive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPX4EDY4hw


Nothing, however, will ever match "The Battle of Santiago" between Italy and Chile, with expelled players having to be pulled of the pitch by the Police (!), liberal use of kung-fu kicks, broken noses, further interventions by the Police (!!) and general violence for 90 uninterrupted minutes. It was so brutal than the referee, Ken Aston, ended up inventing the red and yellow cards. Think about that...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Santiago_(1962_FIFA_World_Cup)

The introduction to the match by BBC's David Coleman remains legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jVMSlpZhg

Yep. But, let's face it... that game was bloody hilarious.

Best wishes,
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/27/2021 10:57:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		So... the Czech's go through 2-0 against Netherlands to meet Denmark in the quarter finals and Belgium see off Portugal 1-0 to go through to meet Italy.

The Czechs made their advantage count after de Ligt's red card but overall worthy quarter finalists. Looking forward to the Denmark game. The Belgians rode their luck a bit and Lukaku was quiet and injuries to de Bruyne and Eden Hazard might be significant if they miss the Italy game. Portugal huffed and puffed but failed, in the end, to blow the Belgian house down. A very nice strike by Thorgan Hazard was the only goal of the game.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 12:39:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shunwick

Like you, I had soft spot for the Dutch from 74 and 78 teams. They lost that good will in the 2010 World Cup Final though. One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery that I do not forgive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPX4EDY4hw


Nothing, however, will ever match "The Battle of Santiago" between Italy and Chile, with expelled players having to be pulled of the pitch by the Police (!), liberal use of kung-fu kicks, broken noses, further interventions by the Police (!!) and general violence for 90 uninterrupted minutes. It was so brutal than the referee, Ken Aston, ended up inventing the red and yellow cards. Think about that...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Santiago_(1962_FIFA_World_Cup)

The introduction to the match by BBC's David Coleman remains legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jVMSlpZhg

Yep. But, let's face it... that game was bloody hilarious.


I wonder if our British friends remember "The Battle of Highbury", in 1934, when the then World Champion Italy came to England to challenge the locals (who didn't play at the World Cup because they were "above such things"). It was a manhunt from both parts disguised as a soccer match, with players valiantly staying in the pitch even with cerebral concussions and broken bones (there were no substitutions at the time: everytime a player had to go out the team lost a member).

At the end England won 3-2 and everybody was happy. England for winning and Italy for getting a good result (and almost drawing) in "hostile territory".

It is remembered as maybe the only time that the newspaper published "war bulletins" listing the endless casualties (basically everybody) and the kind of injury they got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ITlcbqGgag

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 11:00:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shunwick

Like you, I had soft spot for the Dutch from 74 and 78 teams. They lost that good will in the 2010 World Cup Final though. One of the disgraceful displays of thuggery that I do not forgive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abPX4EDY4hw


Nothing, however, will ever match "The Battle of Santiago" between Italy and Chile, with expelled players having to be pulled of the pitch by the Police (!), liberal use of kung-fu kicks, broken noses, further interventions by the Police (!!) and general violence for 90 uninterrupted minutes. It was so brutal than the referee, Ken Aston, ended up inventing the red and yellow cards. Think about that...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Santiago_(1962_FIFA_World_Cup)

The introduction to the match by BBC's David Coleman remains legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jVMSlpZhg

Yep. But, let's face it... that game was bloody hilarious.


I wonder if our British friends remember "The Battle of Highbury", in 1934, when the then World Champion Italy came to England to challenge the locals (who didn't play at the World Cup because they were "above such things"). It was a manhunt from both parts disguised as a soccer match, with players valiantly staying in the pitch even with cerebral concussions and broken bones (there were no substitutions at the time: everytime a player had to go out the team lost a member).

At the end England won 3-2 and everybody was happy. England for winning and Italy for getting a good result (and almost drawing) in "hostile territory".

It is remembered as maybe the only time that the newspaper published "war bulletins" listing the endless casualties (basically everybody) and the kind of injury they got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ITlcbqGgag

Yep. The Battle of Highbury 1934 was a bloodbath. It is generally regarded as the most violent match ever although I am fairly sure it's possible to find a game somewhere in the world or from any era that make even that look like a Sunday picnic.

"...didn't play at the World Cup because they were "above such things..."

The English FA (or rather the "British FA" since it was an agreement of the FA's of all the home nations) resigned from FIFA in 1928 because of a dispute involving payment to amateur players. England didn't play in the 1930, 1934, and 1938 World Cups because they were not, at that time, members of FIFA.

Best wishes,
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 11:07:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		So... the matches today are:-

Croatian Peka takes on the Spanish Paella
French Pot-au-Feu tries its luck against the Swiss Rosti

Predilections and Predictions anyone?

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 12:18:33 PM   
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I like Croatia - provided they are wearing their home kit - otherwise don't really care. Used to like Spain but don't have any time for them since they became successful. Same applies to the French - supported them against the Germans in (in)famous world cup's past, but now hope they lose. No feelings one way or the other for Switzerland who are boring as a football nation.

So I want the Swiss for the simple reason they are not France, and I want Croatia (regardless of kit worn) because they are not Spain.

But predictions? Well I am really angry I blotted my record with Holland vs Czech. But these two are, in theory, easy - and I can't see a surprise on the cards for either.

The French will be waaaay too strong for the Swiss, and Spain are likely to be too much for Croatia who are increasingly reliant on the ageing (but still quality) Modric for inspiration.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 4:34:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		does seem that spectacular own goals are now a feature of this tournament.

Watching how competently the Czechs dismantled the Dutch (even before the sending off) do feel a bit more re-assured about Scotland's overall performance

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 6:38:47 PM   
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Football is such a crazy, cruel game.

3-3 - it goes to extra time and....

Croatia have 3 chances (2 guilt-edged) and miss the lot. Spain have 2 and score them both. Suddenly 3-5 and Croatia are beaten. Except they're not. Another golden chance to Croatia..... and just wide of the post.

Slim margins.... the difference between glory and despair so fine.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 6:43:15 PM   
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Croatia 3-5 Spain

Football is such a crazy, cruel game.

3-3 - it goes to extra time and....

Croatia have 3 chances (2 guilt-edged) and miss the lot. Spain have 2 and score them both. Suddenly 3-5 and Croatia are beaten. Except they're not. Another golden chance to Croatia..... and just wide of the post.

Slim margins.... the difference between glory and despair so fine.

Great game for the neutrals.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 8:24:29 PM   
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ohh Switzerland........

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 8:40:17 PM   
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......... fine margins.......

ohh Switzerland........


maybe Pogba is actually quite good at football?

[10 mins later edit] or not, that was dire when he lost possession

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 9:41:07 PM   
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Do Switzerland have ANYONE that can take a penalty?


at least 2 of them?

edit - 5.

So the Swiss go from being one of the most boring teams in the Euros to dumping France out on a well deserved performance

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 6/28/2021 9:47:32 PM   
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Do Switzerland have ANYONE that can take a penalty?


at least 2 of them?
warspite1

Yes, yes there is!!!!!!!!!!!!! Football eh?


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